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Just got back from purging degeneracy in my life.

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I missed you bastards (no internet in rehab).

Good to be back.

Deus vult!
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>>71384561
I'm on day two. Stay strong anon.
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Let's celebrate with a drink.
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>>71384561
I've had nothing since January.

Thank you, Donald Trump.
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>>71384634
You too.

It is so worth it.

It got to the point that I actually hated drinking, but couldn't stop.

It was destroying my life.

I feel so good being sober.
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>>71384660
yeah!

oh, wait
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>>71384561
I still drink every day but it is good to have you back with us white brother
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Great job anon.
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>>71384561
any advice? i drink mostly because it makes it ok being bored with life. even when i was sober, i was incredibly bored even though i was social and actively pursued hobbies. i work long shifts during the week and get absolutley smashed on the weekends. it also doesn't help i've moved across the country for work and i have zero friends. any advice would be appreciated.
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>>71385013
*zero friends in this state at least
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>>71384941
I don't have a problem with alcohol.

Many people can drink moderately and responsibly.

I am not one of them.

Just because I have to stay away from alcohol doesn't mean that everyone should.
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>>71384945
Thanks.
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>>71384941
>it is good to have you back with us white brother

good to be back
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good for you. don't relapse.
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Youre gonna make it. Make sure to do it for yourself, take any 12 step shit with a grain of salt
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Remember, you can't remove kebab and shitskins if you're too drunk to aim.
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On night 1 right now. The first three nights are the hardest, but I can do this. Fucking fell off the wagon before, but I literally don't have access to alcohol tonight, so I've got one choice, and that is to fucking deal.
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>>71385287
I won't. My life while drinking was a living hell.

I don't even have cravings.
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>>71385407
12 steps are okay. They aren't going to solve all of my problems, but they have helped me to improve myself.
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>>71385518
You can do this!
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Nearly one year sober from heroin

Never touching the shit again
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>>71385516
If there's a crusade going on, I wouldn't trust a man who won't take a drink. How can I know he's not a Muslim infiltrator?
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How do people enjoy alcohol to the point where they get addicted? It doesn't even feel that good and makes you feel awful the next day.
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Godspeed brother, just remind yourself that you are strong enough to continue on this path.
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>>71385775
>Nearly one year sober from heroin

That is awesome. You are an inspiration.
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I'm almost at 3 months, was never an addict but I drank a lot and had a bit of a reputation of it to the point where I get offered a drink almost everyday, I could keep drinking and not pay a cent.

I feel noticeably healthier, look healthier and am getting better at being sociable whilst sober but a lot of my long time friends are starting to phase me out, it's obvious they don't want to be drinking around me when I am not and if there is no drinking involved, they don't see the point of hanging out. It's this sort of mindset that drinkers overlook

Now if I could just stop fapping.
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>>71385798
Give him some bacon. If he refuses, you know what to do.
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Haven't had any benzos in 6 months after a decade long addiction.

Don't do them bros. please
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>>71384561
That's pretty gay.
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>>71385775
3 years for me. yeah, it's a rough life. I wish i would follow through with quitting drinking, though. I just quit smoking but it's getting really hard not to drink every day or every other day.
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>>71384561
I've been sober for 2 weeks now.

I wasn't really alcoholic, but was getting blackout drunk at home one day a week on weekends. Then I started drinking every day on the weekends and sometimes Thursday for a few weeks so I'm stopping now.

Only thing that sucks about it is that I crave junk food really badly now.
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>>71385952

>Haven't had any benzos in 6 months after a decade long addiction.

Congrats! What inspired you to finally stop?
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>>71384561
Have a drink to celebrate!
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>>71386071
>alcohol corporation shill
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>>71386254
>I've been sober for 2 weeks now.

good work

The way you describe your drinking, you were on your way to becoming a full blown alcoholic.
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>>71386385
Nah trust me nigger, I pay them, not the other way around.
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>>71385900

I'm not an inspiration. I spent 9 years of my life slouched over a chair all day everyday.

I have a degree in aerospace engineering and I spent 9 years of my life slouched over a chair, when I could have been designing the latest airplanes or being part of some great space exploration programs. That would make me an inspiration.

Washed up druggies aren't `inspirations', Kim kardashin isn't an inspiration

Elon musk, sir Isaac Newton, Stephan hawking and many others

God if I was in charge of the world id capture the minds of so many kids they wouldn't even smoke a cigarette
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>>71384561
Congrats man, must feel good.

I've been sober for about 3 weeks now. I was drinking every night for a couple months but it never really affected my schoolwork or social life so I never really considered it a problem. Just trying to save some money and improve my health. I'll still buy a bottle every once and awhile, though.
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>>71385952
But i want to be like the cool politicians on tv
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>>71386666

You are an inspiration to other suffering addicts and alcoholics.

Many of them cannot even imagine being clean for a year.

Its time for you to start your life over again. This is a new beginning for you.
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>>71386226

I was on a lot of shit and one day I was rummaging through my draws looking for some cash to go and get a hit when I found a certificate of my degree and I just burst out crying (no fgt) I then got my mum to buy me a load of food and lock me in my flat and proceeded to have the most physically painful two weeks/month of my life


Server muscles aches omg
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>>71386906
. It's very easy. You just need a wake up call from a happy part of your life

People turn to drugs when they are very sad and vulnerable.

What sent me off was the death of my little brother
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Even my own family says they don't like me when I'm sober, so fuck it. No point in staying sober when I'm /r9k/-tier without something in my system. Everyone has their vices.
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>>71387166
>What sent me off was the death of my little brother

Sorry for your suffering.
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>>71385952
been there, done that.
Benzo's and Cocaine were the hardest to quit personally.
Working on quitting porn and booze. But I'm weak, and life is just too much.
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>>71387366

It wasn't even the death what Set me off that's the thing. He had an inoperable brain tumour, and I had to watch him have a seizure in the middle of a football pitch to bring wheelchair bound and dead in 5 months.

Fuck man now im going to go take a hit
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Drinking right now but want to cut it back to a healthy level. Planning on drinking one less drink every day and then spend a week being completely off of it before allowing myself to have one with dinner. Any advice?
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>>71385952
Benzos are the only drug I have no self control with, but I can't turn down a free massive script every month. I realize I'm playing with fire, but I manage to cut off my supply just long enough to prevent physical addiction. Refill day feels like being a kid on Christmas morning. Benzo benders are A+ good times, but knowing how bad the withdrawal is stops me from letting myself become a full blown addict.
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>>71387908
>Fuck man now im going to go take a hit

no, no, no, no no!
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>>71388064
last Xanax bender I went on, ended up making out and getting sucked off by a non-passable tranny.
And that is what made me quit.
Live the Dream /pol/
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I'm addicted to rum.
HELP
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>>71384561
Cheers m8, have a beer for me.
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You're a fag, at least do something cool like opiates. Benzos suck dick. "Oh durr I want to sit around and drool on myself and then fall asleep and not remember any of it, let's pop some xanax!" I use benzos for bad alcohol hangovers, but outside that they are shit. Anyone over the age of 17 who uses them recreationally needs to do some real drugs.
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Haven't had a drink since New Years. Hardest part is not wanting to go out at night (because it's pretty boring when I'm not drunk) but also not having the willpower to be productive at home. Hopefully it's transitional
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>>71385952
Benzos are the worst, gone through Heroin, alcohol withdraws but nothing is as bad as Benzos and not sleeping, Xanax is the fucking devil. Completely drug free a year on May 5th.
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>>71387166
I have a serious question. I'm a severe alcohoholic because of my fucked up upbringing. I'm in the works of getting into a rehab because I know I need it and I know that my life will be better for doing so. My biggest fear is knowing I will relapse if one of my grandparents (who I consider my true parents because my mother is fucked). I need advice from anyone in this thread on how to potentially deal with it. If I don't go on a perpetual drink to forget feelings, I will literally kill myself. They mean too much to me. What can I do to maybe prevent that? I doubt anything can.
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>>71388618
Prairie nigger detected.
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>>71388618
tell you this the depressant effects of alcohol last much longer than the buzz, get sober for a while and you will realize you forgot what feeling good was actually like, you will start living instead of just getting by with your bottled friend.
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>>71388091
chill dude, he's not going to go shoot up,
it's just weed, dude lamao
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Trying to quit now. I only drink at night but I drink pretty much every night a 1.75 lasts me like 4 or 5 days. Been going on for about 2 years now.

It's getting easier to quit tho
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Three years off heroin here
My brain is broken
Na/aa is going to make you relapse or at least lose sight of whats important.
Don't do it sober bros. You can do it without 12 step bs. If you believe you are weak then you will become weak.
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>>71389136
DUDE
>WEED
LMAO

Enjoy yourself man, hope everything keeps going good for you
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>>71389277
AA with older people is all right, NA is a bunch of addicts that only teach new ways to get high!
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4 months no drinking, 2 weeks no fapping, 8 months no smoking. Feels good to purge that degeneracy tbqh.
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>>71388943
lol nah I'm I'm 100% white, but I do live in pretty prairie nigger-ish town. Lick my nuts.
>>71388962
That's what I mean. I'm at the point that I know alcohol fucks up more than it solves. I want to be sober and be better for them and then myself. I know and fear I will jump back onto the alcohols because I will not be able to cope either of their passings. I'm a weak faggot in that regard, I just want advice to keep in mind so I don't fuck everything up again. Only for their happiness.
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>>71384561
Glad to have you back OP.

We missed you. Remember, we love you and you have to stay clean
Just work on it, one day at a time.

Find a hobby. I suggest if you are also ADHD like me something like Warhammer. I do Age of sigmar cause its not overly involved.
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>>71389345
This is anecdotally true in the US, mostly because the war story aspect is significantly less.
I still believe that the general premise is flawed though, and that everyone is capable of doing on their own(without external help in any fashion of therapy, aa, na, word vomiting to your friends, subutex, methadone etc)
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>>71388618
1. If possible, take time off work

2. Take small doses of LSD regularly in a safe environment

3. Start seeing a psychotherapist

4. Go on a short meditation retreat (go on a solo 2-3 night camping trip if you are repelled by the thought of meditation

5. Start waking up early enough that you have time to do vigorous cardio exercise and meditate for 15-30 minutes in the morning. At the end of the day you will be too tired to do anything besides eat dinner and go straight to bed
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>>71389503
Thanks for your kind words.
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>>71388177
What are you a fucking pirate or something?
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>>71386871
how much would you drink on a normal night?
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Being /fit/ is the second greatest ally to your sobriety or cleanliness.
The first is purpose in life or complete lack there of.whichever you enjoy tends to be the most helpful.
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135 days checking in. Stay off the sauce bros
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>>71389906
I would argue that >>>/tg/ is just as good. Gets you a social event without substances involved.
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>>71389493
Bro no matter how hard you try you can't get better for someone else, it has to be for you, your grandparents will be happy for you but if your doing it for anyone but yourself you will fail. What you have to realize that part of the reason you feel so shitty is the sustainable effect of the alcohol, it both makes you feel like shit and is the only thing that you know that takes the shitty feeling away. Go to a proper rehab (don't make friends there, you don't need other degenerates in your life) detox and get a hobby. Whether you like it or not they will put you on an anti depressant because that's what they do, honestly for me that was bullshit take them or leave them, I assume your young enough that your body will repair itself quickly, if you can get far enough away from it if you do relapse you will realize the next morning how shitty the alcohol really makes you feel. Also rehabs usually detox with Benzos like Librium so you don't have seizures as alluded to earlier stay the fuck away from that shit. Clear your head its so saturated with alcohol it can't begin to imagine life without it, once you clear your head it gets better I promise.
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>>71384561
Danny is that you?
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>>71387947
If you find you have trouble moderating, a doctor can prescribe you a drug to help you drink at normal levels. It's called Naltrexone. I didn't try it, but apparently lots of people have had success with it. Look up The Sinclair Method.
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>>71390222
nope
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>>71390263
Interesting, I'll do some research. Thanks, anon.
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>>71389649
I agree but I really believe that exposoing yourself to survivors of addiction is helpful, I don't think it has to be a lifelong equipment, but knowing hat your not the only one who has been through this, that your not alone in your struggle is helpful at first.
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anyone else get shaky and kind of uncoordinated the day after a monster drinking night?
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>>71388618

Id like to say you wont it wont but I tin foil bong my first hit in 11 months because I just talked about it now

Fuck
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>>71384561
Nice blog m8
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A bunch of drunken alcoholic gerbil farming anal sniffing shit posting neckbearded fuckwads in here.
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>>71384561

I've been to rehab for two months senpai. No fucking cell-phone or internet for two fucking months. I had to learn about happenings through the fucking common telvision which was always set on fucking MTV or some gameshow because the insane don't care about news. Walking back and forth is the only exercise you got. But I did meet some genuinely interesting folks there. Losers and the insane mostly.
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>>71390513
also... I drink twice or 3 times a week, but almost always when I drink I drink till im either blackout or fairly close to that.
am i alcoholic?
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>>71390609
Why don't you have a drink.
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>>71384561
Imagine your favorite alcoholic beverage. One, hell even three isn't going to hurt. Just moderate yourself.
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I drank myself unconscious a couple of times when I was 20. Ever since that I gag at the smell alcohol and have hardly touched a drop in 15 years.

Guess I'm lucky it had that effect on me and I can never become an alcohol and destroy my family.
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>>71390513
That's how it starts soon you start drinking earlier and earlier to right the ship then if your like me you wake up in the morning in Bulgaria wondering if you really married the girl lying next to you last night.
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>>71390217
I appreciate that. I'm level-headed enough to know why I reached this point because of booze and I know that It needs to stop. I'm not sure if my liver is beyond saving at this point or not, I need knowledge from more knowledgable people or seasoned alcoholics. I've been drinking 400ml of whiskey a night for over a year. My liver hurts and I shit liquid every day but it's the only thing that takes the pain and memories away. I'm a degenerate, and all I want is help, but every time i've seeked it through doctors, councilors, etc. they have failed me and I go right back to it.
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i stopped drinking when my heart started beat weird as fuck one night. i thought i was dying.
i sweat for about 5 days, was shaky cold and hot at the same time. was seeing flashes of light from the corners of my eyes, and when i got tired enough to attempt sleep the tinnitus static ringing in my ears would manifest into words and whispers.
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>>71384561

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>71390513
>>71390659

The shaking is from you withdrawing from alcohol. Your body gets uppity because it doesn't have the booze depressing your nerves and shit. Does the shaking stop when you are drinking?
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wish i could stop
im on day 2 right now and i seriously hate drinking.
ive had hot flashes all day

so hungover today i couldnt even keep water down without puking
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JUST ONE ISN'T GOING TO HURT!!!!!
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You all talk shit about stoners but you can't get off the liquid Jew.

LALALALALALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

But if people have been doing well in their AA programs and shaping up then yes, more power to you and congratulations.

Why don't you just use some other substance like marijuana to ween off alcohol?
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>>71390861
the shaking is only major the day after I drink way too much. Other times its very minor or non existent.
And I dont ever notice it when im drinking, but i know it doesnt immediately stop the shaking, though it may an hour or two into drinking and I just didnt notice it then
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>>71390773
yeah
my sweats are pretty bad

im freezing when i get up but dying hot

i cant afford to get help cause ill just con my way into getting drugs lol

i just need to stop drinking but its so hard with my current situation
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>>71390771
400mls a day your liver should be fine, i drank more than twice that fro much longer. You realize you have a problem so your halfway there, no correct it you will be suprised how good it feels waking up after actually sleeping, because your body is dealing with your degeneracy right now and doesn't have time to deal with the normal thing sleep is supposed to accomplish. Your not trapped but every time you drink you need a little more to get where you want to be, stopping now it won't be that bad wait and it will be hell.
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>>71391116
i want to sleep it off but i literally cant find a good position where im not sweating, cold or sweating more
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>>71390932
horrible advice desu. You should never switch a dependency for another dependency.

Plus i don't know why you would think marijuana would help an alcoholic ween off alcohol. It's not like they can smoke a bowl and be like "wow, i don't wanna ingest something im physically addicted to anymore!"
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Tfw don't like being tipsy or drunk
Tfw will literally never understand why people drink everyday

I can understand alcoholism as a unhealthy way to escape anguish but I literally cannot understand why anyone would drink under normal conditions
I just want to nap after a few beers
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>>71391390
you're lucky.
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>>71391116
I have an appointment to go get a medical checkup which I need to do before I go into detox, have to wait until tuesday to get that done then probably another 1-3 weeks before any actual progress. What is your opinion on it being an all or nothing situation. 100% of me wants to get off the hook the booze has on me, but I am also aware of the factors of my life the resulted in me latching onto the booze jew. Am I ignorant and/or retarded for wanting to come out with wanting to be able to have a social drink with friends occaionally instead of complete quit? I want to be in control of the alcohol again, is this a pipe dream?
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>>71391428
I sympathize with alcoholics its the guys who drink who embody the fratbros and middle age guys in beer commercials is what I don't understand
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ICE COLD BREW!!!!!! Picture it!
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How can you trust a man that can't even trust himself with a beer? You're a faggot anon.
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>>71391369
True self medicating is self medicating and for an addictive person to enter and establish a relationship with a drug culture can be life threatening. It isn't the weed that is a person's stepping stone to harder drugs its the fact that 90% of hard drug addicts meet their future coke, heroin, or meth dealer through relationships established acquiring weed.
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>>71386254

Wheee. I just went two weeks and then drank a case of beer over the course of a weekend. So, now I start over, but that's okay. It wasn't booze anyway - that would have been a REAL problem. So I think you'll be good.
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>>71385149
honest introspection pol/bro
+1
remember this
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>>71391551
Im 23, my drinking started with the frat boy mentality.
>be me at a university known for partying
>go out with friends a lot
>horrible in bed, cum in under 20 seconds
>when drunk, its cash
>would make sure i was very drunk at parties so when i took chicks home it went well
>bout a year ago started drinking at home by myself, not just at parties
>up to about 3 nights a week
>dont enjoy drinking unless im shit-faced
>bored to death when sober
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I wish I could stop drinking long enough for some one to actually respect my opinion

So I visit /pol/ where they don't know I'm an alcoholic.
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>>71391390
>tfw in high school and college never liked being tipsy or drunk

> tfw would only drink 1 or 2 drinks at a party and be the sober sane one in the room

>tfw slowly, gradually gained a taste for alcohol but never drank to excess and get "drunk"

>tfw lose a loved one to cancer and it devastates my life

>tfw best friend moves away

>tfw before I know it alcohol is my only friend

>tfw I realize alcohol is killing me now

>tfw I realize I can't stop

It happens just like that
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I love to binge drink. I just only do it once or twice a month and behave responsibly.
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Guzzy, is that you?
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>>71391508
If your an alcoholic you cannot suddenly become a social drinker, for you it is the first drink that gets you drunk. Saying shit like I will only drink beer from now on, or I'll only have two then leave is your manipulative alcoholic mind leading you back to degeneracy. There is no half way some of are just not wired like that, your going to have to find other ways to socialize and distance yourself from any "friend" who thinks its okay to drink around you, get clean stay clean it isn't that bad.
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>>71385149
I drink once a weekend at most, sometimes I don't even bother because I have things to do. Not sure how people become alcoholics. Even the sight of it gives me slight aversions.
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>>71392020
Some people can do this, I used to binge drink and was only sober for one or two days a month.
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>>71390407
how much weight did you lose? fuck probably like 30 beers pack on the shit in you
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>>71384561


bumping for more advice from you guys

This thread has been a great read for me

Also, congrats OP, I want to be where you are 38 days from now
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>>71384561
Fuck sake...
I hate hearing this shit and thinking about all of the advice we were all convinced to laugh at as teenagers.
> Can understand why those gym/PE teachers were always so pissed off.
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52 days off of heroin. It wasn't an everyday thing but I realized that my habit was escalating, and after throwing up anything I tried to eat the day after overdoing it, I realized that I was probably gonna end up horribly addicted and/or dead.
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>>71384561
I was doing a half a handle at night. Every night. I'm sure some fags are gonna be all, "that ain't shit" nigga I didn't drink all day. This was from 6.30pm - midnight. But yes, it was literally killing me.
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>>71392888
did you have bad hangovers everyday then?
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>>71392669
I started eating more as time went on... Because I wasn't hung over.... Fml
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>>71384561
I'm scheduled to be in a 30 day detox and inpatient rehab in two weeks.

Please tell me what detox was like, your day to day activities, etc.

What's it like once you're detoxed and rehabbed? My friend did a 30 day detox/rehab and started drinking again within a week, he said his life was miserable sober.

Please help me to not have second thoughts. Thanks, anon.
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>>71384799
Good on ya
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>>71392888
That's a lot to most people, that's like 19 shots roughly
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>>71392714
Our schools industrial Ed teacher had wide known rumor of him being an alcoholic having vodka in his water bottle. I never doubted it and never judged him, he was a bretyy cool dude. He genuinely wanted his studetns to care and learn. 80% of his classes were filled with retards fucking around with machinery. I always had a bit of respect for him, I didn't care he drank, he did his job. High School teachers are masochists
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>>71393033
after the detox its all mental

try something like transcendental meditation
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>>71384561
>Just got back from purging degeneracy in my life.
>posts on 4chan

go back and try again, retard.
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>>71391801
>>71391932
Personally I think the biggest reason i dont drink is for vanity reasons
I want to look young for as long as possible, everyone I know who gets shitfaced or high all the time looks 5 years older than they are

I'm super vain and don't want bloated alky face like my friends gf has
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OP disappeared. Fuck I hope he didn't fall off the wagon.

I've been drinking over ten years extremely heavily. I'm 30 living in my cousin's basement. I hate drinking so much, like OP, but I can't stop.

I'm going to rehab and detox, I just don't know what to expect.
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>>71392888
can you convert that to anglo pls, this leaf wants to compare it to his daily drinking. a Mickey for us is 375ml. I think what you call a fifth is = to a 2.6 for us which = 2 mickeys
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>>71384799
>I feel so good being sober.

That feeling will pass. You're on what's known in AA as "the pink cloud" currently. Hope you're working some kind of program, otherwise it's pretty much inevitable that you will drink again. Not trying to bum you out, just give you the facts.
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>>71391508
It's an extremely sharp slope for you now. It's always better to just stay away from it. How many time in your life have you said, I'm kindof tired.... Ill only have a little. Next thing you know it's 2 am and youvr face planted in your living room and your wife is cussing you out because you pissed on the floor again.... Its not worth it man. The easiest thing for me to keep in mind to not even want to go back is that the last 4-5 years I wasn't even having fun... At all, my life was miserable. I pretty much had it in my head that I was going to do this... And once I run out of money I'll hang myself out of my living room window. Had it figured out where it was a good place to tie the rope off. I cannot ever go back to that. Having 1 or 2 "social" beers, whatever the fuck that means, is not worth it. I never once in my life drank socially. I drank to get drunk. If I pick up an alcoholic beverage.... I will end up drunk. This is the truest thing I've ever posted on 4chan.
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>>71393033
>>71393141
Needs more specifics bro. I'm heading into a detox soon and details more than "oh it was shitty" or "it was hell" would be helpful. There are counselors and psychiatrists and shit available, so the meditation would be helpful, but knowing what to expect going into a detox is most helpful sir
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I've only drank alcohol, and been drunk, once and I'm afraid to do it again due to a tendency towards addiction. And no I'm not some kid.
Congrats on the sobriety and keep up the good work /pol/acks.
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>>71384561
Good anon
I'm quitting smoking, so far this is my second week smoke free
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>>71393224
whats extremely heavy.. how much, how often?
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>>71393233
a handle is 1.75L leaf. hard alcohol
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>>71392986
Well, I drank mostly rum. Not because it was drink of choice... But because I could drink more and still wake up for work.
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I need to stop sniffing meth lol
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>>71393233
Half of this... Minimum
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>>71388232
>opiates
Opiates will never be my DoC. I've had some great times while on them, but they're really just not that great to me. The only time I was ever addicted was because of intense pain following reconstructive surgery. After the pain was gone it was easy as fuck to stay clean after using immodium and benzos to get through the withdrawal. I still mess around with them occasionally, but they've never provided me with anywhere near as great of a high as benzos and there's way too many side effects.
>nausea
>constipation
>itching
>hot flashes
>not being able to even feel my dick or get off
Basically every drug > opiates (unless I'm actually in pain)
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One week for me.

Got arrested for a first DWI. Would not recommend the experience for anyone.
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>>71384760
Trump is such a positive influence on our lives
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>>71391508

50+ year oldfag checking in. it depends on your psychological make up. i binge drank in my teens and early 20s. i just got away from it - the payback the next day was not worth the drunk from the night before. once in awhile i'll go to a bar and enjoy a mug or pitcher. sometimes i'll go years between having a drink. had a few beers with one of my uncles a few months ago. once in a decade i might knock back a 12 pack. at funerals i drink a fifth of jack. alcohol is just something i lost the taste for. life is difficult enough for me straightass sober - theres no need to make it even more fucked up by being a drunkard. but drinking was never an issue for me. ya, i got into trouble a few times because i was intoxicated but i didnt become a gotta-have-a-drink alcoholic. you need to do an honest introspection/assessment as OP did. if you find your self wanting for self discipline then it is probably best that you abstain entirely
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>>71393443
Most of a 750ml bottle of vodka every day. Usually binge it at night.

My doctors beg me not to stop until I get to detox because I drink too much and cold turkey would cause DT's.

I haven't skipped a day in ten years. If I drink less than I normally do, I have vivid, horrific night terrors. I'm scared I won't be able to quit.
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>>71384634
>>71384561
>day two: I did it guise!
>day three: begging for change to get a bottle of skoal vodka or LTD

Fuck off addicts. You haven't done fuck all unless your measuring your sobriety in years.
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>>71393367
Thanks for your input. I'm know that some people are aware that even one drink is too many. Has that always been that way for you since you started drinking? For me I was always able to be in control of the booze when I was out with friends. I was always the one sober enough to stop my drunk frends from doing stupid shit, I was the voice of reason. Then my family life became super fucked up and after half a year of drinking evry other day, it became every day so I could forget feelings and memories. I want to get back to that point of being aware and in control. I fel that it is possible for me, but I also reasonably fear that I'll fall back on the wagon with mental gmnsatics of my own. I have now idea of knowing until I get into the rehab, I just want opinions and ideas before I go in with one set focus. I want to be in control.
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>>71393591
You're lucky. Nothing gave such a euphoric, relaxing and 'functional' high (to me) as opiates. The fact that I enjoyed it so much and I could do it and not appear outwardly high allowed me to do it more and more and more often.
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>>71393377
are you going for booze or what?
depends on the facility but usually theres group sessions and talking and learning about why you have been doing whatever you have been doing. lots of time to reflect, read, write
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Good job, the first month is painful.
I gave up and went back to drinking once a week. Got to really be careful not to slip up and go back to your old ways
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>>71393724
wow.. thanks for the info. Just wanted to do some comparing.
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>>71384561
Me too, I'm on like day 1!!
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>>71393727
Fuck off m8, this is coming from a boyscout tier teetotaler who doesn't even drink sodas
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>>71384561
Addict/alcoholicfag here. Congras on your accomplishmen, anon. Only those who have faced such demons know the struggle .
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>>71393727
'One day at a time'.
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>>71385013
Play video games instead.
I drink with my friends and get smashed for fun
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>>71393556
Ok yea thats around where I am at, not quuite as much. This kills the liver :(
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>>71393684
Thanks for the input oldfag, I'm 30 and ready to quit and make something of myself before I'm an elderlyfag.

>>71393591
I enjoyed opiates when I had access. The thing is, take the recommended dosage or slightly more. You'll get a nice euphoric high. Addicts always take 5x's the recommended amount and usually snort it, which leads to the symptoms you describe.
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>>71393724
I drank the same way. You just need to make a clean break. I just got fed-up and walked into the emergency room and told them what was going on, and they admitted me for 5 days. You can try tapering yourself down, but that never worked for me and most of the recovering alcoholics that I know. That's why most of us just gave up and checked into a hospital, to be detoxed under their care. It's not that bad - they give you so much ativan that sleeping is no problem. Plus you don't have to worry about having a seizure and dying.

Of course, once you get over the physical addiction, the mental addiction is where the real work begins, but that's a different discussion. First thing is just to physically get it out of your system without dying.
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Fuck, guys, I'm drunk now... just like every night for the last 15 years. I was rolling nicely, chilling and reading /pol/ and now this.

I don't really know what else to do with myself. It's seriously been my nightly plan when I get out of work for 15 years. The only thing that changes is where, and who with.... But even that has been the same for a few years.

At home, and with myself.
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>>71393033
Not OP but I can tell you rehab isn't bad. Better than winging it on your own, they medicate you so your withdrawals are manageable and you don't stroke out or have DT's. Usually a day consists of two sessions of group therapy one AM one Pm (sounds worse than it is) lectures on addiction, AA and NA groups come in you watch videos about addiction. They try to program you to appropriate your time life management etc. Introduce some physical activity into your life, you will hate it at first and be afraid to leave when that time nears. Truthfully success rates are low, you will be in there with people like me who can tell you why this rehab facility is inferior or superior to all the other ones in the area, because I had been to them all. The most important thing is to be there for you, be selfish as fuck becasue it is your life your saving, fuck everyone else in there. You have to convince yourself that where you are right now is the deepest bottom you want to hit, and the fuck ups in there will be able to illustrate to you how bad it can get. Catch yourself now do it and stick with it, be in that 5% that gets their shit straight after one trip in, it gets better I promise. If you go in thinking you can get it under control, then return to some moderate usage of anything your doomed. we are not programmed that way is all or nothing with us.
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>>71394006
Yeah how the fuck do people taper down?
I drink a little bit and suddenly my resolve is gone and I think "what would a little bit more hurt?"
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>>71393922
Don't encourage people to do opiates bro. I was a fucking retarded 18 y/o a few years ago and took a bunch of left over vicodin and *really* enjoyed it. A few years later I'm just now a couple months off of a 2-3 bag-a-day (nasal) heroin addiction.

Nobody ever sets out to do heroin, it just becomes the more economic (and only viable) option unless you can afford to spend (potentially) hundreds a day on oxy.
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>>71393753
I drank to get drunk. So if I have 1 beer. I'm having 15... Chances are I would switch to liquor after about 5 beers. So yes, to answer your question.... Yes. I always was the kid who bragged I could out drink you. I knew I was going to be an alcoholic when I was a teenager. Because it ran in the family and I was smart enough that I was going down the same path.
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>>71394006
Initially my doctor wanted me to do the ER five day detox, but when she found out I had PTSD and was functionally homeless, she referred me to the 30 day program in Chicago, I'll be there within a week or two.

I honestly don't worry TOO much about the mental addiction. I fucking hate drinking and being drunk so much. I stay busy all day and night so won't have idle hands, so to speak. It will be a concern but not as much as when I drank all the time to have fun.
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>>71394072
Start calling rehab facilities and get your shit together.

I avoided rehab because I didn't want to be this washed up former alcoholic that's struggling through sober life.

Then I listened to the Joe Rogan Podcast with Steve-O from Jackass as a guest. He describes how he was a total fuck up, went to rehab, and has been sober ever since and as happy and successful as ever.
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>>71393367
I was going to blow my head off in the shower with a 12 gauge that would serve one purpose, bought the bleach, gloves, and saved up a bunch of cash for whoever was going to clean it up.

I was a fucking mess as a drunk, miserable, bloated, unhealthy, unhappy. Stuck out the first week one day at a time, now I'm almost two years off the sauce.

I couldn't say no to alcohol or to myself. I still can't say no to myself regarding other selfish things, but at least I can say no to what hurt me the worst.

Good luck OP, remember the worst times and hold on to it. Remember how miserable it was for when you think about drinking again.
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>>71394124
Thank you, that's actually legit solid advice.
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Sober for three years from weed, coke, MDMA, benzos, opioids and amphetamines. Did all regularly, and my life basically turned into; adderall to wake up/ get through the first half of my day, a redose in the middle of my day to chase the dragon followed by vaping weed to balance out the edginess, and then ending my day with under 5 hours of sleep that were only possible with benzos, and then a bunch of other drugs on the weekends.
Now I just drink a few good beers about 3 days a week, and take 1mg of Xanax maybe once a month when I'm anxious or can't sleep. Perfect diet and doing great with excerisizing too, feels great, I can't even remember what life felt like all those years ago.
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>>71393922
>take the recommended dosage or slightly more. You'll get a nice euphoric high. Addicts always take 5x's the recommended amount

BULLSHIT

I got stung the fuck out by eating one or two prescription strength oxycodones per day

It was fucked up, but I was hooked beyond repair for that period of my life

Everyone's body chemistry is slightly different and thus subject to wild variability in terms of reaction to drugs, especially opiates and stimulants
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>>71394136
You're right I shouldn't, it's just something that's bothered me for a long time. I'm lucky and was able to do never be addicted to narcotics, it just bugged me that people completely abused it and wonder why it fucked them up so bad.

But yes, I definitely don't recommend it.
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>>71394422
see
>>71394451

I was lucky in that I never got addicted to pills (just alcohol) so I shouldn't suggest people take narcotics at all. Most people will get addicted to even the recommended dosage.
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>>71394151
Cool man, good luck. Getting sober is a crazy adventure, but it get's a lot easier as the months, and then years, go by. I've been sober 4.5 years and the pain and terror of my old drinking life seems like such a distant memory that it's almost like it was a different person, which is pretty neat.
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>>71394072
Are you aware and know that your alcohol is fucking your life harder than it fixes it? I'm drunk too, like every other night, I know my drinking is a temporary fix to forget feelings and memories. I'm not going to bullshit you saying things will get better, because I can't promise that. All I can promise that it will not get better unless you acknowldge you want it to get better. If you have close family, go to them and admit your failure to them. They will be happy your admit it, not judge you for a human fault. If they do fault you for it, or cast you aside while asking for aid, it is harder, but astleast you know that you have only yourself to count on. Either find something you want to live for, no matter how small, do you like music? animals? vidya? anything, pick a tree and then grab a branch from there. To kill yourself or to improve yourself are all that is left in western life, and I am currently struggling to figure that out for myself too my friend.
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>>71384561
>>71384634
>>71384760


You're both degenerates . Anyone who
cent fucking control thenselves are forever marked for degeneracy.
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I wish weed was legal here.
By vaping it I could avoid negative health effects, while also having fun like with alcohol.
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>>71394624
>says the autistic NEET who spends 14 hours a day on the internet, but *totally* isn't *addicted*
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Crown Royal is fucking awesome
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>>71394529
Thanks man, that means a lot. I had a great job in D.C. and now I'm homeless and unemployed. I know I'm capable of so much more than this.
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>>71385013
you might have ADD/ADHD

I know I do, but all the ADD meds make me field anxious, hoping that bitch will give me some actual ADHD meds next time so I can focus, read, pursue hobbies etc like I did when I was younger.

I simply cannot focus long enough, I daze out or get bored every time I try to do something

thats why I drink
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Im addicted to coke weed booze ludes and speed
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>>71385775
>>71385952
>>71384561
Good for you guys. Here's a (You) for being strong. God bless
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>>71384561
bump. stay strong everyone. also if you're struggling, look into medications or therapy. it helped me tremendously once I was diagnosed with bipolar and got on the right meds.
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>>71394847
>ludes
>in the US
RARE DRUGS
A
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D
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Really though, unless you're buying etaqualone on the gray market, importing shit from south Africa, or found a goldmine from the 80s you'll never even see a quaalude in America.
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>>71393843
You wouldn't jump to defend a faggot blog thread from a fuckup unless you were one yourself.
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>>71395138
That was my thoughts. I didn't think anyone used it after the 70's. I know a trillion people that have used every drug imaginable, myself included, and have never heard of anyone using ludes.
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>>71394298
Are you me?

I have been sober since October of 2014
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Random poster here, am coming down from tripping LSD heavily and smoking a a shitload of weed. I realized I cannot continue to be a disgrace to my people and will stop being a degenerate and walk talk amognst others.
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>>71395325
Tell us about how you stopped and what helped/hurt in recovery.

OP disappeared and not many people are describing the process for those interested in quitting the degenerate lifestyle.
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>>71395013
>psych meds
This is the shit that led to me getting hopelessly addicted to drugs in the first place. You know what's worse than feeling bad? Feeling absolutely fucking nothing because of antidepressants/antipsychotics. It's no surprise that I became obsessed with altered states of consciousness at a young age.
>therapy
The worst advice I've ever been given was from therapists. Protip: if you have to pay someone to listen to your problems and help you sort shit out then you really don't have anyone in your life that's there for you or you're just unwilling to open up to them.
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>>71395379
Don't worry about the LSD

worry about the weed

>t. Dude....weed....lmao....I'm a hippie...let's trip balls man......at one point of my life anyhow
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>>71395325
June 19, 2014 for me.
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>>71395480
This.

Most, if not all, mass shooters are on SSRI (anti-depressant meds). They don't fucking feel anything and suicide/murder is sometimes on the table.
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>>71395617
This is true
SSRI's are a game of Russian roulette desu senpai
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>>71395392
In all honesty it wasn't a glorified story... I didn't mention it on purpose because it will not help most peoplepeople. But one thing that everyone will agreeagree on is that you won't quit until you are ready to quit. But anyway here goes nohing.

As mentioned before I was miserable at this point and drinking half a gabdlehandle at least every night blacking out literally every night. I was cussing my wife out and would often piss on the floor in a blackout. Needless to say one time someone asked me why I didn't have kids and I basically broke down and cried and told them if I have kids then my wife will leave me. Also I could feel pains in my side and I knew it was liver or kidneys.... So I figured that my plan was coming to fruition but at the same time I didn't really want to die.... My wife had broken her back( L3 vertebrae) and had to get 2 rods and 9 screws in her back and still do Ruggles with pain to this day. But this put me in a major responsibly role. We were living off only on my warehouse job and credit cards.... So I figured when they eventually told me I had to go bankrupt I would end it there.... But at the same time I really wanted to help my wife.... I went to the doctor and had some blood drawn and sure enough my liver enzymes were through the roof..... Cont
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>>71395379
>>71395507
Occasional weed is not degeneracy, as in less than 2-4 per month. I say this as a fucking leaf that smokes daily. Weed is not degeneracy, humans create the degeneracy.
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24 days sober from heroin and only 3 days till i test if the vivitrol shots worn off yet
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>>71384561
RAY TRACING?
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>>71395725
Interesting. I regularly piss on the floor, it's so pathetic and embarrassing.

My grandmother said she saw me doing it in the hallway but said that would be crazy and I convinced her that her medication was playing with her mind.
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I'm addicted to porn. Like seriously. I can't seem to stop watching it unless I don't have the opportunity to do so.

When I'm bored I watch it.
When I'm studying I watch it.
Whenever I get on 4chan my hand is down my pants without even seeing porn like some pavlovian fucking dog and I hate it.

I don't get it. I'm fit, I have a good social life and a good girlfriend and yet I just cant stop this.
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>>71395731
NO

YOU ARE WRONG

DAILY MARIJUANA USE LEADS TO PSYCHOSIS AND/OR SCHIZOPHRENIA

THERE IS SCIENCE BEHIND THIS

IT'S BEST TO LIMIT MARIJUANA USAGE TO MAYBE 1-3 TIMES PER WEEK AT MOST

BELIEVE ME
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>>71395814
>vivitrol

You're on the monthly naltrexone dose.

Please, please do me a favor and watch a documentary called "One Little Pill".

It's about how naltrexone is extremely effective, it's just that doctors are prescribing it incorrectly.
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>>71395392
Bare in mind I was drinking from age 16 to age 28 at the time but the heavy liquor was probably only 6 or so years.... So I had that going for me... The doctor said it was because I'm fat and alcohol probably played a role but the fatness it the main problem... I had to prove him wrong and quite frankly I was scared to death. Literally.... I went home and finished off the second half of the handle and decided that was it..... It was hard driving past the liquor store for a few weeks but it became easier. Not to mention I was in truck driving school during this time so I knew I was going to have to quit or I was literally going to ruin that career and surely suicide was my last option. I chose that job on purpose as kind of a fight or flight thing.... Well. Again, because I was young and probably because I'm so God damn fat in didn't really have to deal with the withdrawals and stuff. Which was huge obviously. I haven't even sipped a beer ever since. I don't really like to tell the story because it weakens the real struggle people have and it's quite honestly a miracle that I we did it the way I did... I think I set myself up where literally this was my last chance... And somehow I came through... And you know what... I never thought about this until I was typing this post.... Maybe there was some intervention in that... I never have been a religious person but literally failed at just about everything over and over my entire life. This was my last chance.... And somehow I made it... Holy fuck..... I feel bad for telling God to fuck off about a week ago once I realized truck drivers can't get mortgage loans because we get paid by the mile... (commission)... Damnit man... Hopefully he will forgive me... I can't believe I just thought about this right now... This is the best thread I've ever attended. Thank guys
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>>71395900
I know this is bait, but I'll just state that weed does not cause schizo, it brings it out earlier in those that are prone to being schizo in the first place. I had some affirmative action Somalian nigger tell me the same thing when I went in for a basic checkup and when I called him out on the fact he had a deer in headlights face. I am not saying weed is a wonder drug. It has its many side effects, as inhaling smoke into lungs obviously woulds, but by saying weed causes schizophrenia is blatantly false.
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>>71396133
Thanks for sharing, brother. I'll pray for you. I was a degenerate atheist for most of my life up until a couple years ago. Even when I started to go to church I felt a huge disconnect with God because of my addiction.
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>>71396133
Oh. By the way since then my mother has been diagnosed with cirrhosis... She has yellow skim and the whole 9 yards. It's very sad. The crazy part is my father, my brother and I were the heaviest drinkers. Sure she got drunk. White zyphendale(sp).. Really feel bad for her... Alcohol will kill you for real. And it will ruin almost every aspect of your life if you let it take control.
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>>71396261
It's not bait famalamapai

It's personal experience coupled with some recent scientific studies
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>>71396265
Its not like I've seen the light today... But it gives me something to seriously think about. I've always wanted some sort of proof. It's hard for me to believe anything on just faith... But at least this gives me something. Thanks senpai
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>>71384561
Im on day 0 of my sobriety, quit weed 1 year ago, World of Warcraft 2 years ago, cigarettes 3 years ago, and i'm more depressed and sexually frustrated than I've ever been! fuck long term relationships, I've never heard so many excuses to not bang, my gf turned into a lazy piece of shit in the past 4 years, she gained so much weight and exercised so little that her libido dropped off a cliff and her body is always bloated and tired
every day I wake up and hate my existence, no wonder I drink every fucking night
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I guess the main thing that saved me was that my addiction was mostly mental. When I finally got my mind ready.... My body followed. I fear that if I would have gone any farther then I would have been going through the detox like some of these other guys...
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>>71395879
What factor do your grandparents play into your life? Are they people you respect or do not care about? I've ben in a kind of same boat where my grandma has caught me piss drunk and it kills me inside, I want to be better for her but I don't have the resources in life to aid me to that point yet. Is she close to senile? I'd try my hardest to keep her true reality going. The day my grandparents go senile is the day I off myself.
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>>71396423
>scientific studies

How could a scientific study not be overly prone to false correlations if it is looking for mental illness among a population of people self medicating because they already have one?
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>my gf turned into a lazy piece of shit in the past 4 years, she gained so much weight and exercised so little that her libido dropped off a cliff and her body is always bloated and tired


GET THE FUCK OUT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP NOW

LEAVE HER

DO NOT LOOK BACK

YOU WILL NEVER REGRET YOUR DECISION IF YOU DO THIS

DROP HER LIKE A HOT POTATO

SAVE YOURSELF, OR YOU BOTH DROWN IN THE SEA OF SELF INDULGENCE

GOOD LUCK
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>>71396747
I'm not going to totally 100% disagree with you but, still, the scientific method, or what remains of it, is our best hope for finding the truth


http://theweek.com/articles/618141/big-science-broken

>Link VERY related
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>>71396423
scientific studies based on people with predispositions to schizo/psychosis friend. It does not cause people to gain schizo, it only causes those WITH schizo to arise in earlier years.
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>>71396929
>SMOKE
>POT
>EVERY
>DAY
>DUDE
>WEED
>LMAO
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>>71397028
>>>/b/
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>>71397028
stumped by a leaf :^)
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>>71396738
It's just my grandmother, my grandfather died before I was born. She's the only blood relative I know, she raised me.

I think a big reason I'm an alcoholic is because I know how much grief I'm causing her. She's the only person that loves and cares about me and I'm basically slowly killing myself under her nose.
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>>71384561
This is the last place to be if you wish to remain sober. Leave now while you still can.
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>>71396791
I cant bring myself to do it! I feel sorry for her, I always encouraged her to change, Fuck I even devoted myself to getting back into my track team days and worked out every fucking day to inspire her and she didn't do shit! I just drink at home alone each night and jerk off when I get the chance, if I had the willpower to stop drinking, dating her, or fapping I would have already! My addictive personality cant let go
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lol why is everyone on pol an alcoholic?
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>>71397363
Niggers and jews
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>>71384561
>mfw 7 months
>mfw recovering alcoholic living on the fuckin gold coast
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>>71397133
The thing is you KNOW your an alcoholic, there does not need to be a reason to use, you drink because.you're a drunk. We don't Need reason to use we will find them around the evry fucking corner. I'd get fucked up to cope, I'd get fucked up to celebrate. I'd get fucked up to watch tv. Take the only thing out of the equation that you can the drinking, as long as your using shit never improves, pissing yourself is only the beginning it can end much much worse.
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>>71397133
Use that to fuel yourself friend. You are aware you are alcoholic. She is all you have. You want ot be better for her sake first, and then be better for yourself. If you are like myself, and do not give a single care about your own self, devote everything to that woman. Consider this: What will she do for Elder care homes, can she afford it? Will they provide her with the care that you want her to be? She has lived her life, and she has provided you (presumably) for most of yours. Be there for her in he last years. Show her you care. Not just by showing up occasionally. Old Folks homes are a shitshow. If you love her, provide the care she desires, and be there if she wants company. The biggest thing Elders want is genuine company, and they can tell the difference. Trust me, Ive spent lots of time in these places.
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I'm on day 26 of no fapping and no porn. I still get urges but it get easier.

Gave up drinking all together three years ago this February. That gets easier to, to the point that I don't even think about booze any more.

Smoking's my next target.
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>>71397588
>pol getting too fucking real

You fuckup alcoholics need to get your shit the fuck together and take care of your grandparents that took care of you and raised you.

Go to the fucking meetings if you have to, but don't let the demon make your decision to emotionally abandone your blood. You'll never forgive yourselfs and will die drunk, dishonoring your family both in life AND in death.
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>>71397788
ur thinkin bout drinkin now becuase youre in this thread you liar. Not sayin you will, but you are thinkin about it
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>>71397363

truth goes down easier with a bottle of jack.
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>>71397563
>>71397588
I am going to rehab and when I recover from alcoholism, I will make sure she's taken care of.
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>>71385149
Like me and coke. Fuck that shit.

Stay strong. Drink is everywhere.

But.. Did you drink at work?

Cuz I would never do coke at work or for work..

Would you go the full Monty?
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Being sober is boring but I find all the money I save to be bretty sweet.
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>>71397873
I mean I don't get any urges to drink, at all. I can easily go to a bar without wanting a drink at this point.

Granted I really wasn't a really heavy drinker. Only every weekend, but it was always to get drunk. I could never just drink one beer, it had to be the whole case or none at all.
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>>71397806
Jebus, I know our leafs have a tendency to shitpost, but you faggots project pretty hard :^)
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>>71394298
Buckshot or a slug?
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Smoking is my last vice now... Fuck.... Its hard to get rid of my last bit of rebellion/degeneracy

Am I allowed on /pol/ if I amam an admitted degenerate?
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>>71384561
Discovered /pol/ after leaving rehab in January 2015, bored and trying to resist the degeneracy in my life. Things are going much better for me now, still sober, and much healthier. Stay strong.
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>>71398256
90% of /pol/ is filled with degenerate hypocrites. You'll fit in nicely.
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>>71395379
Dude weed .......

Don't lie to yourself.

Do more acid now. The white micro builders in the walls need more structure to finish the four dimension hyper cube
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Tfw I've stopped using tobacco / alcohol / pot / assorted other goodies for months at a time and desu

I always reuse because I keep thinking sober life is better but after being sober for 6 months a few times I realized every time that life sucks thats why I drink and do stuffs

I enjoy doing it or I wouldn't

Feels good man
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>>71398692
that's the problem isn't it? why do some people get by without it yet still are satisfied
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>>71398256
I quit cold turkey a year and a half ago. The first few days are kind of rough because you feel like you don't know what to do about anything, with your time, your hands, after meals. I read something online, don't remember where, that when those inevitable cravings hit, just remember that feeling will only last about a minute. Tell yourself if you can make it through those mere 60 seconds, you wouldn't have to deal with it for another hour or so. Even the time between cravings gets longer and longer. After two or three weeks I got them maybe once a day but brushed it off because its only 60 seconds out of 24 hours. Now I don't get cravings at all. I'm not sure exactly how long it took for the cravings to go away because after I'd say a month, I never even thought about smoking so if I did get cravings, they were so small and insignificant I forgot when they stopped coming. I do sometimes dream that I smoke a cig, remember that I quit, and wake up freaking out that I failed myself until I realize it was a dream.
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No smoking no drinking no drugs since new years. Exercise and reading, weights and cycling. Buying a kayak in two days. Yes brothers! Onward, this is thanks to pol and fit!
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>>71398692
Well, desu... If it isn't fucking up your life and you enjoy it. No reason to stop then is there. Im not saying alcohol is bad, I just fucked up and brought it to a unreasonable level where it was effected every part of my life in a negative way. do your thing bruv
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>>71398950
And no tapping brothers, two femmes have offered themselves, but they have terminal children
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We should have more threads like this more often. Quitting degeneracy threads. Its helping me a lot, thank you all.
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Thank you all years of sobriety but it is good to remind myself every now and then that I am a fuck up, I never was homeless, pawning shit but I used to get paid doing the thing I loved and had to give it up as degeneracy was always to close, I lost friends family, wives but I am still here and I have tomorrows that will be better than today.
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>>71384561
three month clean, here. Keep it up anon.
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>>71384561
Grats. Get some productive hobbies. Idle hands are the Jews playthings.
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>>71384561
haha fag
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