makes you wonder...
>>71378929
>socialism stagnates economic growth
>libtards still want it
>>71378929
THIS GRAPH LITERALLY SAYS NOTHING.NOTHING.NOTHING. ABOUT IMMIGRATION.FUCKING JEW SHILL. IMMIGRATION IS NOT THE ANSWER TO YOUR PONZI SCHEME ECONOMICS.
>>71378929
Your not even a real country m8
>>71378929
black immigration to 17th century america was also pretty good for the economy
>>71379172
then how do you explain that among 4 countries with roughly the same population, resources (apart from Norway), policies, etc. 3 are stagnating, while the 4th is prospering. Of these 4 there is only one notable difference and that's immigration policy
>>71379233
>African flag
>thinks it's actually an African poster
wew
>>71378929
Why does GDP matter? Sweden is the worst Scandinavian country as far as HDI or quality of life goes.
>>71379256
Kek
you realise the muslims dont work and contribute right? they suck more welfare than pay taxes
>>71378929
Sure, Sweden just needs to continually raise taxes to keep up with the massive welfare spending on migrants, and that growth will continue indefinitely.
Good thing all those migrants speak Swedish and are highly educated!
>>71379488
Also 80% of muslims in europe live off of welfare sooo.... :/
>>71379488
When did they start taking in more people?
Correlation is not causation
LOL
>>71378929
gdp is= consumpton+investment+public expenditure
is you increase public expenditure (via debt) of course the variable gdp increases, that's what Sweden is doing
of course someone will have to pay that debt that Sweden is making, and certainly it won't be immigrants
Sweden is a future bankrupt country
>>71378929
>the father you get away from the 2008 and 2011 financial shitstorms the better it gets!
I wonder.
>>71378929
kikes will do anything to destroy countries that are not israel with endless niggers
>>71380044
if* you increase
there goes your economic explanation
You know who did gdp fueled by debt? Greece, Spain, Italy.
Familiar names right? Yeah because they are on the verge of bankruptcy.
You wanted the economic explanation, now you know it. GDP is only one indicator, overrused and overrated, especially by people ignorant of basic economics.
>>71379647
GDP is factored into HDI mate
>>71379893
source?
>>71379885
>all jobs require higher education
>Sweden needs immigration because it doesn't produce enough highly educated workers
>>71380239
You're that faggot posting in the /bern/ thread aren't you?
>>71380239
>>71377429
This guy
>>71378929
Increasing the population usually results in higher GDP. Too bad that GDP per capita is what really matters.
>>71378929
> correlation is equal to causation
Fucking faggot
>>71380393
no it doesn't.
gdp per capita is an average and incredibly misleading
>>71378929
I know that you are constantly posting this same thread and ignore the answers but for those that havent seen it before;
1. This is gross domestic product, the volume of the entire economy. It always grows with a larger population and Swedesn population has rapidly increased due to immigration.
This is why Indias GDP is far larger than Swedens, yet they are much poorer on average.
2. Our politicians have started selling state owned assets and borrowing like mad men to pay for the rushing immigration costs, so out economy is on steroids by using borrowed money.
National debt is rising and it has to be paid back someday..
3. Swedish companies are starting to recover fairly well after the financial crisis, but don't believe for a second that there are somalis and arabs working at these high tech export companies, its ethnic Swedes mostly with some random good immigrants every now and then (east asians, finns, americans, Persians).
PRO-immigration people always like to put ALL immigrants in the same category when pushing their propaganda. Immigration critics don't have a problem with european and western immigration, its third world cunts we hate, and when you look at statistics for third worlders regarding crime and employment the numbers are shocking - ~78 % unemployment for somalis, 5x overrepresentation under the "sexual crime" category etc
Even IF immigration was a net profit (which it isnt) I still wouldnt support it but everything isnt about economy but also about culture and a feeling of trust and belonging among citizens. Trust between citizens is dropping and corruption increasing as Sweden is becoming more multicultural.
Anyway, its a pretty established fact even among political correct politicians that immigration is a burden for Sweden. The difference between them and immigration critics like me is that they believe they will be able to "integrate Syrians, afghans, somalis on the job market and then they will be a profit".
This. Fuck everything, just grow grow grow!
meanwhile USA land of immigrants has 0% growth
>>71380544
Continue; and yes, if they all got a job it would be an economical profit. And Sweden would also become very very rich if we found a hidden chamber stuffed with gold and Diamonds - neither situation will happen.
We have had third worlder here since the 90's, they couldnt get them jobs back then and they aren't going to get them jobs now, our economy is based on high education, we have literally 0 jobs for low skilled immigrants.
>>71380705
source:darude sandstorm
Njgger thats Fake and Gay
>>71380393
What if I was to tell you that GDP per Capita of Finland, Denmark and Norway has shrunk by 4k, 5k and 2k USD over the past 10 years. Guess which Scandinavian country is the only one that measured 2k USD of growth in its GDP per Capita?
>>71378929
It's not migration that's bad, it's muslims, the brainwashed ones that actually follow the quran
>>71381035
there is a verifiable source under every one of those graphs
>>71380021
>we won't even be in the top ten
>>71381175
why is leaf ville even listed.
btw
>op btfo
I'd rather be a bit poorer than having my nation slowly eroded, having to listen to people that don't speak my language and see people that look nothing like me, people I'll never feel any solidarity with.
>>71378929
population growth leads to GDP growth but GDP per capita still goes down. It is why India has a higher GDP than Luxembourg even though Luxembourg is much nicer
>>71378929
GDP is shit that would register a holocaust or a meteor strike as a wonderful benefit.
>>71381175
HDI counts for stupid shit like welfare and social programs. If your HDI is higher than America it means you literally just give niggers and other shitskins free shit.
>>71378929
There is nothing wrong with immigration, if they're europeans (amerifats and aussies included) or asians.
African and arab immigration GTFO
>op btfo again
>>71379256
but they were underpaid
these dudes get so much free shit
>>71380021
I refuse to believe that in 15 years time France, Italy and Spain will have it better than us and that the Greeks will be on par with us.
>>71381689
Lebanon had a revolt while sweden didnt, you cant compare them unless millions of swedes protest in the streets
>>71381939
>look at me cherry pick
>implying germany had a revolution
just stop. this thread was shit from the start.
>>71380021
I can immediately tell that graph is fake because it lacks countries like Luxembourg, Hong Kong, Liechtenstein, etc. Nice try though
>>71380222
>police recorded offenses
there's your answer m8. I wonder what the graph would look like if women everywhere were as emancipated and police as competent and determined to fighting sexual violence as they are in Sweden
>>71381131
>>71381645
Apparently Sweden is succeeding regardless of its immigrants' background
>>71381517
>>71381071
>>71381351
>>71381689
first of all, Lebanon? really? The reason I focused on Sweden is because you can make easy side-by-side comparison with roughly similar countries/economies. European and Middle Eastern countries/economies aren't exactly the same.
Second, you're using different graphs but I doubt you even noticed in your half-assed attempt at rebuttal. Pic rel is Germany's Annual GDP growth rate. Notice anything
Also kek at >>71382067. Italy is far from an pro immigration nation as their immigrant population is a mere 8% as opposed to Sweden's 21% and Germany's 20%
>>71380544
>>71380728
>>71380044
>>71380221
>op ignores facts he can't argue against
thread over, op btfo
everyone go home
>>71380044
>>71380044
>>71383155
economic boost via gov spending is a short term measure that can account for a few years of economy success before it fizzles out due to law of diminishing returns. It can't account for more than a decade of economic success.
taking loans is by no means an indicator to an unstable or unsuccessful economy. the difference between Sweden or Germany compared to other Scandinavian countries and countries like Greece or Portugal is that these countries paired up sound investment policy with immigration policy needed to stave off demographic crisis.
that's why these two economies will flourish in the coming decades while their more conservative will stagnate
>>71378929
Alright, take in some Serbs.
>>71384082
bad economies produce immigrants they don't receive them
>>71378929
Those graphs only show after 2008: illegal immigration dried up around then and resumes when our economy does better
Also, our growth rate is the product of our bounce back from the recession
>>71378929
OKAY GDP
is Gross domestic product, that means form money, to trucks. And since immigrates stay on welfare. Then the government demands more products and taxes. So while acutlay workers are fucked, the immigrates get it and same dose the country which is why the GDP raises, but personal wealth falls. And GDP is bullshit any way. Unless it's a communist government, all you have to care about is you products.
>op continues to be btfo
>>71378929
A fluctuation in GDP
> GDP
This is not a guarantor of happiness nor stability nor safety.
Community is more important than GDP.
Immigration and multiculturalism inherently fracture society, turning it into nothing but an open pop-culture laced market of replaceable/expendable people. An even greater benefit is when the community oversteps its ability to be self-sufficient. Relying on the middle-men of international commerce to provide the most basic of needs.
> No thanks.
Maybe they work on coal.
>>71384528
>>71384831
>stats don't matter
>all that matters is muh feels
wow, am I on tumblr?
>>71378929
Who do you think is behind immigration? Did you think it was just something that happened for shits and giggles? There are corporations making good money from it.
>>71384306
>our bounce back from the recession
are you praising Obongo?
>>71378929
Why don't you show the HDI? lmao
>>71382522
>their immigrant population is a mere 8% as opposed to Sweden's 21% and Germany's 20%
I like how you lied there.
>germany: 11.9
>sweden: 14.3
Although, you didn't lie about Italy.
>>71385272
I didn't lie. The >20% numbers count people born in the country to immigrant parents as immigrant.
