This big guy called the president of Turkey a little bitch who likes to fuck goats.
Merkel allowed his persecution, I don't think living makes sense any more, why is everybody taking this so lightly as an absolute cuckold
>>71222008
wait, is he a german national, and he's being taken to court because he made fun of Turkey's president?
if so, wtf??????? what law is he even violating?
>>71222008
that fucker should be jailed for insulting all those poor goats
>>71222124
The European Cuck Accords of 1990.
>>71222124
Welcome to fascism. He doesn't have to violate a law, he can be put in jail anyway. Because that's how it works.
When the left loses their grip on comedy here's your result.
>>71222008
Turkche bilmaida muh? Jinamisis? Damn turkcheeeze roaches.
>Germans cant even call a muslim a goatfucker
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHSBSHAHAHABSHGFIDJSKNXJF
>>71222124
There's a law that literally forbids insulting foreign presidents, kings, etc. in power. Seriously.
Though to Merkels "defense", they plan to remove that law until 2018 following that incident.
>>71222124
He's in violation of a German law dating back to 1871 that forbids insulting heads of state with whom Germany has friendly ties. There's nothing much Merkel can do, since she's not a judge, but the law is going to be repealed.
>>71222609
nothing wrong with that. hes a public figure and member of the media he cant just go around fucking with relations
This guy is doing the right thing. He inspires more people to do something about this topic. There must be more of those, so that it can form a wave of protest! The more people show courage, the more we can change!
>>71222008
Merkel didn't allow anything. He would be persecuted even without Merkels approval anyway.
>>71222604
The law itself is an odd one, as only the government of Germany have the decision to enforce it, as opposed to the court. The whole "we're gonna change the law" is a coverup so people avoid the fact this poor man is getting prosecuted DELIBERATELY by the German government. I swear to fuck, Germany really is a rabid animal.
>>71222753
I think a comedian should be able to say what he wants, but in this case the Germans have just neglected to repeal this law, which gave president Roach the opportunity to sue. It's a bit sad, since everyone knows no judge in Germany is going to convict this guy.
>>71223035
snake
>>71223035
Got a source on that? Interesting.
>>71222873
She did, she did gave the go for a prosecution.
>>71222008
He is the cuck who made this video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY
Would be awesome if he would spend some time, wont happen
>>71222008
>ultra-cuck gets cucked
nothing to see here
>>71223176
No, Böhmermann has violated a law on german television. Merkel tried to damage control because the rapefugee shit with Turkey. With or without Merkels approval, he would be persecuted based on §103 anyways plus "Üble Nachrede/Verleumdung" anyways.
>>71222008
Further there was persecution on civil court directly form Erdogan anyways, Merkel just allowed the persecution based on another old law... Lot of fuss about nothing
>>71223226
>"erdogan is so bad for feeling insulted! can't he stand a bit of a joke?"
>"OMG DID YOU JUST INSULT NATIONALISM AND RAMMSTEIN FUCK YOU I HOPE YOU DIE IN A FIRE"
>>71223103
Paragraph 103 of German criminal code
Authorisation from both the offended party and the German government is needed in order for the rule to be enforced
>>71223422
That faggot also harms the real satirists because shit like this will cause more strict censorships.
>>71222008
It's messing up ties and relations, of course he's gonnaget punished for it. Had he been a regular citizen it wouldn't matter, but he himself holds a political position so it does.
I hope he enjoys getting raped by the goats he was talking about.
>>71222124
You can't insult people openly on TV. He is fucking retarded and had it coming.
>>71223226
>and the cuck of the year award goes to... GERMANY!!!!
you did krauts, you one upped Sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY
He made this shit. I would let him face a wall for it, if i was merkel.
Don't care about this fucker. Let him rot in jail.
>>71222008
That was one mistake too much Mrs. Merkel
>>71222008
I hate Erdogan, but Jan Böhmermann is not someone worth paying attention to. If he was jailed for no reason at all, most Germans would look past the injustice because at least he'd be gone for a while.
>>71223687
Davon abgesehen wie die Gesetze bei euch sind, bist du im Ernst der Meinung, dass ein Komiker nicht einfach sagen kann was er will?
>persecution
I kek'd Germany
>>71223994
Again, Böhmermann is not one of the good guys. He's an SJW, pro-EU, pro-LGBT, transatlantic, leftist, cuckold and no amount of Turk hatred should convince you to side with him.
>>71224087
Naja, er kommt aus der gleichen Stadt wie ich und deshalb krieg ich viel von der Empörung hier mit aber ich kann das nicht nachvollziehen.
Er sagt vor seinem Gedicht "ich darf das eigentlich nicht tun". Dazu kommt noch, dass das "Gedicht" kein Stück witzig war und man nicht einfach "is nur Satire Loide" rufen kann. Er beleidigt nur eine Person öffentlich und versucht sich dann rauszureden.
Ist für mich die gleiche Debatte wie mit den Fugees. Auf Facebook wirste verklagt, wenne sagst, dass du die scheiße findest und hier ist das nichts anderes. Nur weil der Typ nen Linker ist, gelten nicht andere Gesetze für den.
>>71223994
I choose the german cuck over the goatfucker any day
>>71222753
>nothing wrong with that
Can't tell if bait.
Good job
>>71223687
>German """"""freedom""""""
>>71224087
Doch, sollte er.
Aber er sollte auch dafür verklagt werden können.
Mit allen anderen hätte ich Mitleid. Aber nicht mit dem.
>>71222008
He's a leftist cuck. Serves him right. Hope he gets life in prison.
>>71224446
>kike upset the goyim are able to purge their venom
>>71224479
this has nothing to do with freedom. Laws apply to everyone. People are butthurt because he is a die hard leftist.
>>71224414
>>71224506
Dann bist du ein Idiot und kannst ebenso gut für die Rechte von Weibern und Schwulen demonstrieren gehen, schließlich mag Erdogan die ja auch nicht.
>>71224328
Wenn sein "Gedicht" wenigstens satirische Elemente enthalten würde... er macht ja nichts anderes als zu beleidigen. Er wird wahrscheinlich nicht nur wegen §103 verknackt, sondern auch wegen Übler Nachrede/Verleumdung. Wegen Wichsern wie Böhmermann können wir uns auf striktere Zensur seitens der Regierung einstellen, da das Gericht jetzt "entscheiden" wird was Satire darf und was nicht. Und nein, das "Gedicht" war keine Satire.
>>71224234
him and every other mainstream comedian, but if he shifts the overton window to include Turk insults he's doing Deutschland a solid.
>>71223687
>>71224479
I know it's hard to believe in Cuckold America, but we will not protect national traitors just because we don't like the other nations.
>>71222008
Be ready for the revolution, learn to fight and bond with your brothers, you will need it.
>>71224640
Scheis auf Erdogan
>>71224635
He's getting litigation rammed up his ass for insulting a politician. "Words hurt!" is the mantra of free speech hating leftists.
>>71222196
I second that motion.
>>71224703
>>71224640
>>71224499
>>71224328
>>71224234
>>71224087
English, you fucking SS officers. We can't understand your pickled cabbage speak.
>>71222196
What is this flag? I asked before and someone told me it's the /r9k/ island...
>>71224328
Nö, wenn die Gesetze so sind wie sie sind, dann ist das halt nicht anders, aber das ganze Prinzip an sich finde ich komplett bescheuert. Man kann sowas für geschmacklos halten oder als nicht witzig, aber Komiker, genau wie Journalisten/Schriftsteller/usw, müssen die Freiheit haben, zu sagen was sie wollen. Hier in Holland haben wir auch einen solchen Komiker (Hans Teeuwen), der gerne bekannte Leute beleidigt, aber das interessiert kaum einen. Einfach Fernseher aus, einmal mit den Schultern zucken und weiter. Das ausgerechnet ein Präsident dazu nicht in der Lage ist, kann ich nur als verdammt kindisch bezeichnen.
>>71224966
Scheiß noch mehr auf Böhmermann. Der Feind deines Feindes ist ebenfalls dein Feind, du Idiot.
>all this hatred for boehmermann just because you learned from the internet that he doesn't hold your far right views
I bet you don't even watch the show. He's super funny. He's the best comedian Germany has right now by far.
Also he's not the ultra leftist cuck you try to make him look like. You're just cherrypicking.
This guy mentioned president of Turkey also...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw2l_9ZYTa8
>>71222008
Before you praise him, remember that he is the same guy who did "Be Deutsch!We are proud of not being proud" video. Death to him.
>>71224731
He's insulting the Turk for being a right wing nationalist. He could insult the Turks who live here and refuse to assimilate, but he has nothing against those, because they vote left and shit all over Germany. We don't hate him because we like Erdogan, far from it. But he's an SJW cunt. Fuck him. If he never gets to enter a TV station ever again, then good riddance.
>>71223939
>Image
Perfect
>>71224794
Are you delusional? Your leftist, globalist government is permitting him to be prosecuted for insulting Turkey and all you can squeeze out of your bulletheaded, Kraut groupthinking brain is "le fugg u burger!!1".
Germans don't have the qualifications to be a free people.
>>71224974
As I said you get a prison sentence for denying the holocaust, you get fined for giving someone the finger and as a logical consequence this has to be prosecuted as well. There is no arguing around it. This whole democracy shit is long over.
Before the fugee crisis my father told me that the greatest merit of living in a democracy is being able to critize everyone openly. This has never been the case IMO. Critize the chancellor and you are a nazi.
>>71224703
Üble Nachrede ist auch mein erster Gedanke. Dieses Majestätsgesetz ist Schwachsinn der linken Medien
>>71225088
Wir haben auch so Typen, die sich hinter Satire verstecken. Die Heute Show ist reine linke Propaganda.
Ich bin auch dafür, dass sowas nicht belangt wird, aber es ist nunmal gesetzlich so geregelt und man kann nicht auf dem linken Auge blind sein. Dann sollen sich die ganzen Idioten auch ihre AfD=Nazis Kacke wohin stecken.
>>71225097
Es ist doch scheis egal um welchen Comedian es geht, sondern das Merkel macht was der Ziegenficker verlangt
>>71225398
Everything America has ever accomplished, it only could do so thanks to its Germanic heritage and no other reason at all. Be a little more grateful - we are the true land of the free. You're just a cheap clone.
>>71222124
>if so, wtf??????? what law is he even violating?
You have no idea how rare the first ammendment really is, do you?
Free speech literally peaked in 1791 and no other country on this planet has similar laws.
We have a shitton of laws making it illegal to insult religious communities, insult people in general, insult our president or other leaders.
Its disgusting.
You should have forced us to have something similar to the first ammendment after the war. Shame on you for not civilizing us when you had the chance to.
>>71225407
>well, the legal precedent is that we've stifled free speech for other things, so this is totally okay with me
You don't see anything destructive about this mindset?
>>71223687
Literally the amerifats are right about this one.
That's not freedom of speech
>>71225448
Nein, ich hab Prinzipien. Ich werde mich niemals für einen wie den einsetzen. Niemals.
>>71225127
He doesnt have much long...
Erdogan will probe his ass soon.
Nobody insults my Sultan and gets away with it
>>71225088
you know that fundamental rights find themselves limited by other fundamental rights, right? you can't go around and start offending people with this sort of language, then start paddeling backwards, while shouting m-muh satire. I agree, that a seasoned politician like erdogan should have the ability to shrug something like this off.
>>71225645
It's one of many opportunities to weaken American hegemony in Europa.
>>71225672
freedom of jew
>>71225806
*your kalif
>>71224234
The kind of lgbt-activist
That uses schwul as an insult.
Sure buddy
>>71225818
I suspect that Germany and Turkey worked together on this "case" to punch through more censorship in the media.
>>71222008
Merkel needs to be put down like the diseased dog she is.
>>71225407
Man kann aber nicht davon ausgehen, dass die Linken nicht mit zweierlei Maß messen. Das ist bei euch genauso wie hier im Flachland.
And you get fined for giving someone the finger? Jesus.
>>71225806
soon
>>71225836
By all means, weaken American influence in Germany, see if I give a fuck. Except that's not what's happening, you're strengthening the caliphate and using the might of the frosty bureaucratic machine to crush a citizen of your own country's rights.
>>71225922
Not really...
islam is useful to keep araps and africans under control.We arent that islamist >>71226124
We arent gonna give up land yet..
Not until we bang on the doors of Vienna one more time
>>71222008
>the enemy of my enemy is my friend
With this retarded sentiment, the USA have created the Taliban, Al Quaeda, ISIS...
...so let's instead conclude that both Böhmermann and Erdogan are very close to each other on the 'fucking prick who needs to die' scale, and hope bad things happen to both of them, alright?
>>71225806
Based Turkey.
>>71222008
>TFW you're American and could send the president of Turkey a personalized letter calling him a goat fucking pedophile with your name and address on it
>TFW every single person in America could do it at the same time
>>71226149
>le nervous hebrew
>>71225818
Yeah, it means there's no such thing as freedom of speech when its limted by other fundemental rights. Besides, it's not like Erdogan was being accused of commiting fraud, killing some more Armenians, or something else that can be considered libel and needs to be backed up with evidence.
>>71226326
>American pretending he's not living in Greater Mexico
>>71225836
>Lets weaken American hegemony in Europe
>By diminishing personal liberty, creating an authoritarian framework for Jews to abuse, and establishing Islamic hegemony instead
>>71226311
That shirt isnt real is it? I honestly wouldnt put it past him.
>>71226460
>German pretending he isn't living under Sharia
>>71226261
come we are waiting for you
>>71226493
>American hegemony over Europe is good!
>German hegemony over Europe would be terrible!
>check flag
>mfw
>>71225806
Your presidents should not have been shitting on that table wearing a pig mask
>>71226493
you cant make this shit up, look at every anglo flags post in this thread
>w-why are you getting rid our agitators! muh freedumbs! what will we do if people put limits on our internationlist liberal brainwashing machine!
>>71226509
I don't know, but I too wouldn't put it past him.
>>71226326
There was a case of this British kid sending Obama a letter calling him a nigger or something and Obama banned him from the USA for life. Land of the free huh?
>>71226593
He didn't say it was good, it's just completely unrelated and if reducing American hegemony was your goal this is a very roundabout, retarded way of achieving that. Either way, you're bolstering Islam.
>>71226767
Muhammad, let me remind you what a citizen is.
>>71226809
>it's just completely unrelated
>>71226668
DELETE THIS
>>71226886
Are you capable of using your big boy words and participating in an intelligent conversation about this instead of memeing?
>>71225994
don't let /pol/-propaganda get to you too much, fellow germanbro. No way this incident was a german-turkey-coup. After the decision, Steinmeier & Maas clarified that they have been voting against letting this pass. Maas, the guy who urged Facebook to do more against internet hate speech. That's logically not consistent. Also Merkel wouldn't endanger her popularity even more before the elections next year.
>>71226353
sure, there is no such thing as the absolute freedom of speech. but limitation can also be healthy for society. the question is at which point do you draw the line. but you have to argue with law-students about this, I'm just a stem guy.
>>71226970
Maybe after Erdogan gives those blowjobs he was paid for.
>Germany is now a tributary of the almighty Edroganic Empire
>German citizens soon to be abducted and tried in Turkish Courts of Sharia Law for offenses against the Sultan (pbuh)
>>71222008
He's a leftist piece of shit who also called for violence against AfD. His "poem" had nothing to do with satire but was merely a concatenation of infantile insults. "Poopoo peepee shit fart" is not satire and I do not want to fund this degeneracy with my GEZ taxes. He deserves everything bad.
>>71225063
They are probably crying in their schnitzel about how bad Erdagon's feeling were hurt by one of their countrymen
>>71222008
President of turkey is a little bitch who likes to fuck goats.
Thank god I'm not German and won't be going to jail for this
>>71227116
Europe needs to be completely independent from the USA, and for some retarded reason, your elites get all butthurt when we say that. That's why you caused a big refugee crisis and pinned it all on us. Ever since the Turks started to help us stem the crisis and continue our independence efforts as planned, you reply to them with the same hatred you have for us. I promise you, your schemes will fail yet again.
Europe will be independent. We owe you nothing.
>>71222008
>Merkel allowed his persecution
huh ? is there a deeply embedded bitch syndrome self induced you are not aware of there?
>>71224635
>has nothing to do with freedom
>laws against freedom apply to everyone and it's ok
No wonder this country is doomed. You German subhumans will suck anyone's dick as long as it's a law.
>>71227580
Says the guy who supports the cuck because of muh feelings
>>71227580
Like all other foreigners, you have no idea what freedom entails. True freedom is the unquestionable rule of law.
>>71225327
Why do you Krauts continue to miss the point?
It doesn't matter what his politics are. Your government is throwing one of its own citizens under a bus for insulting someone in another country. Forget everything about politics for a second and realize something. Do you know how fucking easy it is to offend someone from a different culture?
None of you fucks are safe.
Not to mention the freedom of speech angle. I know that Eurofags are staunchly against freedom of speech, but you can at least pretend to be for an actual human right.
>>71224703
>Wenn sein "Gedicht" wenigstens satirische Elemente enthalten würde
du hast die satire wohl nur nich verstanden
>>71227828
the concept of human rights was invented by jews specifically to punish and subjugate germany
>>71227686
You may not like the guy, but you have to support his right to express any opinions.
>>71227692
True freedom is bending and circumventing the laws and making the laws serve you. A man is not a slave to the law, the law is a tool to achieve goals.
I'm a Jew btw, so not a foreigner, but not German subhuman either.
>>71227828
Did you even read his shitty poem ? It's not funny or satire. He is literally just insulting people.
>>71227828
>It doesn't matter what his politics are.
That would be unprincipled. The enemy of the enemy is also my enemy.
>>71222008
Don't you worry, our prime minister supports Merkel on her decision
>>71225633
oh you little sheep
germans especially dont have the first amemement cause the idea behind it is that it will prevent another Hitler
>Volksverhetzung
that concept only exists here to protect the jews
>>71227942
>True freedom is bending and circumventing the laws and making the laws serve you.
That's corruption, the opposite of freedom.
it doesn't even matter whether it's satire or not
even if he means every word of it, he shouldn't be punished
it's called freedom of speech
>>71227999
Artikel 5 Grundgesetz
(1) Jeder hat das Recht, seine Meinung in Wort, Schrift und Bild frei zu äußern und zu verbreiten und sich aus allgemein zugänglichen Quellen ungehindert zu unterrichten. Die Pressefreiheit und die Freiheit der Berichterstattung durch Rundfunk und Film werden gewährleistet. Eine Zensur findet nicht statt.
(2) Diese Rechte finden ihre Schranken in den Vorschriften der allgemeinen Gesetze, den gesetzlichen Bestimmungen zum Schutze der Jugend und in dem Recht der persönlichen Ehre.
(3) Kunst und Wissenschaft, Forschung und Lehre sind frei. Die Freiheit der Lehre entbindet nicht von der Treue zur Verfassung.
Nice try though.
>>71222124
He's actually violating a GERMAN law
Europeans hate free speech, you know
>>71227942
It's not an opinion. It's leftist propaganda. They are trying to weasle out of being prosecuted. If you get v& for hating on fugees you should be fucked over for insulting another head of state on TV while knowing better. He is a retard
remember this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qpn5Q0rgRo
ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH MAY REPLY TO THIS POST
EUROPOORS, EUROPRESSEDS, NEED NOT APPLY
>>71228153
>he hates muh USA?
>that means he hates liberty!
And this is the unique Amerilard logic that is the very reason why we must free Europa from ALL American influence.
>>71228205
refer to >>71228141
>>71227999
>germans especially dont have the first amemement cause the idea behind it is that it will prevent another Hitler
Nice trips, Adolf.
Also: I think it's much more than that. Germany never had a tradition of free spech.
And its not just Volksverhetzung or Swastika Symbols, we have some of the harshest anti-"Ehrverletzung"(Insulting) laws in western europe.
Germany would have been so much better with an "first amendment".
>>71228141
>Eine Zensur findet nicht statt.
Glaubst du wirklich an dieses Grunzgeschwätz?
>>71228305
>Germany never had a tradition of free spech.
That's bullshit. We're more honest than most.
>>71225072
How the fuck cant you recognize cypros? German education...
>>71228027
Every law is made so serve interests. You just have to be on the right end of the law, because freedom is relative and the prosperity of the free will always be supported by the struggle of the slaves.
For instance, you make yourself a slave willingly, to support these millions of free African gentlemen, sacrificing the resources and labor of your children to support their freedom and prosperity. You are at the wrong side of the law and you put there yourself by your own will. This is why you are nothing more than a cattle.
>>71227692
Way to stick to America by letting a citizen get fisted by bureacrats and litigation for words! You go Ahmed!
>>71222008
>>71228432
Every law is one of two things:
1. to serve the people
2. injustice
>>71228294
Sorry I don't speak nazi.
>>71222008
Also nur um mal das mal klarzustellen bevor du dich irgendwo lächerlich machst ausserhalb von hier.
Sie kann das eigentlich gar nicht entscheiden.
Es geht rein um die öffentliche seite die sie einnimmt.
Ich finds auch völlig behindert nachdem sie bei charlie hebdo für satire mit durch die Straßen marschiert ist aber!.. die Gerichtsverhandlung wäre wegen dem Gesetz so oder so gekommen..
Sie hat sich quasi nur auf erdogans seite gestellt aber sie hat keine Gerichtsverhandlung angeordnet oder so.
Sie hätte das nicht abwenden können da der ja n Anwalt eingeschaltet hat und der Anwalt es so oder so vor es Gericht gebracht hätte..
Es is moralisch völlig abgefuckt.. aber unser Gesetz
Ich kann Böhmermann nichtmal leiden aber ich finde es so lächerlich..
Das beste an der Sache ist da die Höchststrafe sowas wie 2000 Euro sind...
>>71228141
>(1)Eine Zensur findet nicht statt.
>(2) Diese Rechte finden ihre Schranken in den Vorschriften der allgemeinen Gesetze, den gesetzlichen Bestimmungen zum Schutze der Jugend und in dem Recht der persönlichen Ehre.
Are you blind?
What do you expect censorship laws to look like?
"(1) We hate freedom because we are not mature enough to handle fringe opinions"?
It puts "persönliche Ehre" before freedom of speech.
>>71228515
You should.
>>71227928
Jews don't give, they only take. Whether you believe it or not, you were born to certain inalienable human rights . Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No one can hold it against you for protecting those rights,but you have to be willing to die for them. Not just for you, but for everyone, whether you agree with a person or not.
You will probably mock me for this. Understand that I am sad for you nonetheless.
>>71228496
Aristotle got BTFO when Machiavelli was born.
Laws are made
1. to serve the rulers.
2. To protect the rulers from opposition and dissent.
>>71228396
Autism and freedom of speech are not the same thing you dense motherfucker.
>>71223978
that was as sick as I've ever seen
the super tough, dark, dank, hard rockin', faggot left wing hugbox with the foul mouthed little white girl cussing like a trucker right to your face
HUMAN GARBAGE, ready to explode in a mass death movement any second
Since they proclaim absolute faggot pussyness, why don't they drop the dark goth rocker crap
>>71228597
We'll change that.
This resulted in a wave of mockings in the Netherlands of Erdogan and our government said something like that would never happen here (persecution thing.)
>>71222124
That's the best thing.. He is a fucking lefty who made fun of the "right" on week before he insulted erdogan...
this whole thing is so strange because /pol minded people hate him but we also hate erdogan,probably more than him..
>>71228294
>diese "Rechte" finden ihre SCHRANKEN
Rechte mit solche Schranken, sind keine Rechte. Insbesondere wenn die allgemeine Gesetze die Schranken machen kann.
>>71226881
Anyone who practices Islam is a US citizen it's written right there in the Constitution.
>>71228681
/pol/ has been twisted into a transatlantic propaganda tool.
>>71228661
If you aren't ready for a direct armed coup (which is against the law) you won't change anything.
>>71227951
I'm confused.
If you liked his poem would you be upset about your country fucking a citizen for Turkey?
>>71228578
im not mocking im 100% serious when i say that, its as old as the end of world war two and specifically designed and applied to punish and subjugate the german people and all of europe. that is the applied concepts entire purpose
>>71228597
German laws are made to:
1. Protect Islam
2. Let the machine oppress Germans
>>71228751
We are Germans. If you were one, you'd feel why we can succeed.
>>71228264
Kek.
You are freeing it from American inflepuence schnitzelfag . you will all be happy little Muslims soon
everybody who thinks he should be punished for the poem doesn't the get the irony that the whole point of it was to point out thinks you weren't allowed to say about him
>>71228529
Ist doch wie mitm Edathy und Raubkopien im letzten Jahrzehnt. Es ist besser Kinderpornos zu verscherbeln als MP3 zu ziehen.
>>71228752
I have no idea. He is a cuck so I don't really care. The problem is that laws are constantly abused to fuck over the poltical right so I am kinda looking forward to this
I looked that shit up, apparently you guys have disgusting "free speech" laws. You can't insult people in a way that could really hurt their feelings, you can't make fun of world leaders, you can't express your opinion if it is too hateful...
And yet you pretend to cherish free speech?
>>71228869
Your influence is anything but a positive aspect of this world.
>>71228876
>thinks
*things
>>71223226
stopped watching when fags appeared
>>71228876
enlighten us
>>71228578
>Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness
Retard detected. Take a moment and actually study what powers your rights give you.
>>71222124
Remember this when Europeans tell you that the Bill of Rights is irrelevant because they also have freedom of speech.
Yuropoors have no rights. They are simply subjects of their governments. Their governments have convinced them into for forfeiting their rights by taking a majority of their salary and giving them back """"free""" education and """free""" healthcare. Most yuropoors don't even realize they are nothing more than pawns.
>>71226728
>>71226593
Look, I'm not saying American hegemony is great, but you're literally saying
>Give us Islamic hegemony instead
Is that you, Mutti Merkel?
>>71223648
How can you be an american and be so against free speech?
>>71223687
We do it in the states all the fucking time and get away with it, feels good
>>71228917
There's no reason to help Böhmermann.
Again, for the last time hopefully, the enemy of my enemy is also my enemy.
>>71229092
That's one of the many scares Americans have fed you with. Europe does not need America to be prosperous and secure. Without the US, we'll have an easier time keeping Islam away from here, in fact.
![c_FaA3c9k7prL459IdLUgbfEPxijsUDd[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YtfXxcB.jpg "c_FaA3c9k7prL459IdLUgbfEPxijsUDd[1].jpg")
>>71222008
Holy shit Germany, we know you've been bowing down and accepting Turkish dick for a while now and have been letting them rape your women and children but come on!
You are officially now the Cuckapital of Europe.
>>71228921
What have Germans brought except WWI, WWII, and the final, utter destruction of Europe through Eugenics.
Not to mention that VW sucks and has to lie to pass emissions.
>>71229092
its only anglos making this about the religion of piss. scared, lying anglos
Merkel is literally going to jail this douche bc the cunt Ergodan threatened to start the tap on the rapefugees again if she did not prosecute him.
Can't the Germans just get rid of her already?
>>71229066
>what powers your rights give you.
>I'm the retard
Kek
>>71222008
I talked with my mom about this and she said people shouldnt care about it and should rather care about their own problems
Is she right?
>>71229101
It would be the right thing to do to help him. Go fight for some fucking freedom, your country is too authoritarian
>>71229212
No you won't faggot. You will support your woman's head so she will be comfortable while 10 Arabs fuck her bloody.
Fuck outta here with that nonsense.
>>71229265
>What have Germans brought except WWI, WWII, and the final, utter destruction of Europe through Eugenics.
Not even 1/100th of the pain and disorder the US have caused. A powerful Germany is what's needed to fix this world.
>>71223618
I hope you're joking.
>>71223687
How can Europe be so cucked?
>>71229416
Of course it is an unimportant topic compared to the shitskin invasion and TTIP CITA etc
Get the shitskins out!
>>71229418
>your country is too authoritarian
>>71229452
Power isn't given faggot.
Germans don't have it in them to take it.
They let fucking Turkey cuck them.
>>71229510
Nice buzzword you have there. Do you even know what it means, José ?
>>71228264
Enjoy the muslim takeover then.
>>71229449
Yes we would.
We are not as weak and gutless as you are.
>Fuck outta here with that nonsense.
Your country is absolutely pointless and should stop trying to be a superpower. Pass that torch on to us an our future will be all the better.
>>71229212
Tell me more. Seriously, I'm not shilling, I genuinely want to understand how the yoke of American Hegemony is causing the Islamic Cancer inside you to grow, and not Angela Merkel.
>>71229269
You're damn right I'm scared. I'm scared that morons capitulating to Islamic shitholes like Turkey are going to give these roaches the precedent and power they need to start Islamicising Europe with even greater power. I'm not lying, because I truly believe I am right. You think I'm wrong? Explain it to me, and I'll listen.
>>71229416
I've heard a lot of Germans tend to be pessimistic and apathetic like that. Why, though?
>>71229416
No, she isn't. Anyway, lack of free speech hurts everyone. You can't even say "the holocaust never happened" without going to jail. I don't believe it never happened, but still
>>71229510
>whites under 25 are a minority in the US
>20% marriages outside of own race
:^)
In denial that US is more cucked than sweden
Germans are more defensive to criticism than the subjugation of their rights lol.
>>71229577
It's time to face it. You are nothing compared to us. If you were, why did you fail so hard to reshape the world into something better? We had the plans, we had the spirit, and you destroyed those out of pure envy. You can correct your mistake, right now, by supporting the German power.
>>71229416
Of course your mom is wrong. First she is a woman so who gives a shit about her opinion. Secondly, if everybody would only care about their own problems, then your mother would start to change her opinion only when death is literally at the doorstep. She lives the "ignorance is bliss" lifestyle. Just show how degenerate people already are, no sense of community or nation is left....
Your mom is a cultural marxist.
>>71229708
>Tell me more. Seriously, I'm not shilling, I genuinely want to understand how the yoke of American Hegemony is causing the Islamic Cancer inside you to grow, and not Angela Merkel.
The refugee crisis would not happen were it not for the US-led destruction of Syria and Libya. This whole Arab Spring project was a means to scare and divide Europeans; it failed. We are more convinced than ever. Europe needs to be her own master.
>>71229708
applying limits to your leftist cuck agitators =/= capitulating to islam, stop spreading your twisted anglo lies
>>71229539
Nice, that does not suggest hypocrisy. You are only lashing out against what I said with my country's problems with anti-semitic rhetoric thrown in in an attempt to turn my attention away from how authoritarian your country is. Or perhaps you don't know what authoritarianism even is and you think that comic somehow suggests it?
>>71222008
Persecution had to be allowed since it's our law.
They plan to change the law now but you can't just break your own laws especially if you're dealing with an almost dictator and you want to make clear that just ignoring laws isn't how a country is supposed to be run.
That is all.
>>71229871
You don't speak for Europe. Hungary and Poland are just saying fuck off to the refugees, it's only Germany and the other cucked countries that feel they have some moral obligation to accept refugees. So even if we played a significant role in disrupting the middle east, we didn't create your policies on immigration and customs.
>>71230022
If you really had a problem with authoritarianism, you'd support the quest for European independence instead of shilling against it on a Sudanese crocheting board.
>>71230095
>You don't speak for Europe.
Dito.
>>71230081
Here, if you break the law, if it is controversial like this you can take it to the supreme court where you can change the law for everyone if you can win. Hopefully you can do that in germany, because you desperately need to get that law changed..
>>71229716
Because in germany you can vote what you want and nothing changes. You don´t have any outlook anymore for the future, it seems rather bland and useless. National pride/patriotism was destroyed, no cultural values left and thanks to the post war re-eductaion/social engineering people feel that they have lost their roots. Nobody has any knowledge about german history, they literall don´t know anything and don´t care. The people just know that something is wrong but they don´t know what it is. That creates helplesness.
It´s like the whole concept of "where am I coming from and where am I going" is lost, people just live in the "here and now", they don´t know their roots and they rarely have long term plans/goals for the future.... just apathy.
>>71230182
Why? Why would I want to support european independence if I am against authoritarianism? Please, do explain your logic
>>71230182
you need to learn to speak anglo
"authoritarianism" and "dictatorship" translates to "country that we cant manipulate effectively"
>>71230265
It's called dystopia. It doesn't look as bad as in the stories but it's still dystopian
>>71230182
>mindless "I know what you are but what am I?" tumblr quip
My point being that the duly elected representatives of other countries have chosen to ignore the migrant crisis and protect their borders. European independence is making Merkel lord and sovereign over an entire continent, I guess.
>>71229952
>applying limits to your leftist cuck agitators =/= capitulating to islam
allowing foreign islamic politicians to silence criticism abroad =/= applying limits to leftist cuck agitators
Two can play at that game, friend.
Explain your actual position, earnestly.
>>71229871
>The refugee crisis would not happen were it not for the US-led destruction of Syria and Libya. This whole Arab Spring project was a means to scare and divide Europeans; it failed. We are more convinced than ever. Europe needs to be her own master.
The migrant crisis would not be a problem for Germany if the German political class and the leftist movement within your youth culture had thoroughly rejected them in the first place. Who has pushed for the acceptance and inclusion of these migrants more than everyone else in Europe? The German establishment.
The US has certainly antagonised the situation in Syria and Libya, but Islamic powder kegs have been prone to instability and expansionist aggression for hundreds of years. Such a fire in the Middle East should unite Europeans against it, not divide them- the only source of division among Europeans as a result of this has come from Frankfurt School-style policy from left-wing European politicians such as Angela Merkel, pushing an agenda of multiculturalism with swathes of foreign muslims into our nations at odds with the wishes of the people in general.
>>71230081
>They plan to change the law now
that a lefty hero faggot has gotten in trouble by it and they aren't just jailing holocaust deniers....
YES, THE COWARDS OWN SWORD SLICED ONE OF THEIR OWN HEADS OFF AND THEY CANNOT STAND IT
THIS IS SO TOTALLY UNFAIR IT CANNOT APPLY TO OUR LEFTY TREE HUGGING BUTTFUCKING LOVERBOYS
>>71230388
No, it means you aren't free. It means you can't go out on the street and say how you feel, however retarded and backwards it is. You can't even make fun of leaders, not even if it is true. Authoritarianism implies the opposite of freedom, as in your government keeps you from living your life with basic freedoms through its laws.
>>71230324
Because Europeans understand freedom better than Americans; We don't get to pretend we have it - all our lives we feel that we don't have it. Every awful political decision made in Europe can be traced back to American financiers. You are not the amazing realm of liberty and independence that you are brainwashed to believe you are. You're a plutocracy. Not democratic, not free, not just, not fit to rule anything, yet ruling everything.
>>71230550
at what game? lying? hes not being prosecuted in turkey for breaking turkish law hes being prosecuted in germany for breaking german law, only an anglo could conflate that with islam because you are the only people that legitimately beleive your own lies
>>71230629
>living your life with basic freedoms
Oh good, I want price stability and a currency that is not tied to the Petrodollar. Pls gibe.
>>71229871
You are naive to think that all this "refugee crisis" isn´t planned in advance by the US/NATO/NWO agenda. In turkey and surrounding areas there are flyers around telling the people how great europe is. Our bundespräsident even was in fucking india and wanted to start a project with 1000 schools there to make german the new second language they learn for more slave workers. There is lots of propaganda going on in africa und the middle east that promise everything and "we" are the ones doing the propaganda.
The whole refugee crisis is a team effort by the NWO agenda, with people like george soros and the other usual think tanks (ESI) at the helm.
>>71230639
>Every awful political decision made in Europe can be traced back to American financiers
roflmao u are pathetic really
>>71230849
>The whole refugee crisis is a team effort by the NWO agenda
And another name that NWO agenda goes by is The United States of America
>>71222609
The law states that it's up the governement whether the person gets persecuted. So it was up to her and she decided yes. The SPD part of the coalition was against it.
>>71222609
Can she not exercise prosecutorial discretion, like the President of the United States can?
>>71230639
Prove to me all the bad decisions can be traced to american financiers, and prove you aren't pulling that blind anti-american rhetoric out of your ass.
I'm not brainwashed to believe everything. You have no understanding of american society, just what you're told from anti-american comics, is that it?
We have numerous problems and as americans we don't deny that. Only our retarded buy into the brainwashing materialism. But we do have greater liberty than you as it turns out. We can have KKK and nazi party rallies in cities, even though assholes come and turn it violent because they want our country to be as limited in freedon as yours.
>>71231183
>We have numerous problems and as americans we don't deny that.
And your biggest problem is that you need to oppress, enslave, manipulate and destroy other countries to keep your disjointed, poorly coordinated economy afloat.
There is no moral reason to prevent European independence. None.
He's a lefty cuck who now gets a taste of his own medicine.
Although I don't condone the whole situation, I sure like the irony.
>>71230928
>And another name that NWO agenda goes by is The United States of America
Yes and no. "We" are part of it too we have lots of puppet politicians sitting in think tanks. It is not a coincidence that Rockefeller founded the council of foreign relations and Soros founded the european council of foreign relations. And look at the members list of this think tank:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Mitgliedern_der_Atlantik-Br%C3%BCcke
If you are really well educated on german history in the last 100 years, especially the big players of banking and selling of industry to foreign nations (especially after the reunification) then your fucking eyeballs should pop out and you´d go on the streets killing random people.
>>71223035
>>71222008
>this poor man
If it wasn't for this piece of shit faggot I would agree but if you aren't retarded, you actually want him to get dicked in prison, no matter what.
This guy is everything wrong with white men today. Poor SJW libtard degenerate.
>>71231553
>the big players of banking and selling of industry to foreign nations (especially after the reunification)
They'd suffer the most from European independence.
>>71231521
Prove we do those things... Those are some buzz words, guy
>>71231521
you're 100% pure victim for life - it's your brain that is the problem, nothing else
Poland just told you in this thread they do what they want...
your brain is a pile of shit, an imaginary ass raped crybaby wailing for justice
>>71231183
>We can have KKK party reallies in cities
Yeah, no. Maybe in some redneck, unimportant shitholes.
>>71231648
who is this jizz ditz
>>71231991
Your country will soon break under the weight of its own hybris. Europe, the cradle of culture and civilization, will shine again and keep on trucking without you.
>>71229502
>I hope you're joking.
How so? That faggot made a "poem" which is no satire at all but he tried to sell it as satire. Now he is being sued and the courts(and the government) have the possibility to decide now "what you are allowed to say in satire".
>>71223687
FFS, listen to you, your mentality is what allowed Hitler to take power in your country, and why German intellectuals say it is wrong to trust Germany. Disgusting.
>>71232310
Not in your world it won't, you are victim for life, with no out.
Tell yourself another pile of lies then you can claim victory, right, you fucking moron.
>>71232477
I repeat, the USA are finished as a superpower. If they keep trying, they'll also be finished as a country.
>>71232468
>your mentality is what allowed Hitler to take power in your country
and that is bad because ?
>>71223978
isn't that satire?
>>71232659
muh authoritarians
the only people who are pissed off about the poem are the turkish people, not because they think that politicians are above us and shouldn't be insulted, but because they feel that they personally and their turkish pride got insulted by the poem
the same turkish people complaining about this will have no problem calling merkel a whore or a pig
>>71232699
It's 100% serious, that's how much of an antigerman cuck he is. Do you understand now why we have no desire to defend him?
>>71224234
>>71224036
You stand up for what is right, not for the individual being persecuted.
>>71232563
now svengali has another fantasy after whining total USA hegemony is completely unfair to him and his bitch nation - which isn't germany but EUROPE
your "nation"
one needn't remind you it's collective monetary power surpassed the USA's years ago....
oh wait, you're a fucking moron, add that in, and anything goes
>>71232699
nah, this isn't satire because he can't face punishment for this shit.
>>71230237
Not if it's controversial. Just if it's constitutionality is under question.
We don't have a real constitution in germany. Literally the first clause in the Grundgesetz makes it so that everything is up to interpretation by the government.
Americans knew that when they created the Grundgesetz. They knew how annoying a first amendment is for the government.
>>71232563
That's just plain stupid, even for you, Mohammed.
>>71232912
>They knew how annoying a first amendment is for the government.
"is for the conquering power still in occupation mode"
FTFY
>>71232820
he seriously believes in tolerance I'm sure, but the way it's presented there is over the top for comedic purposes
>>71232950
I'll end up being right.
>>71232820
you don't defend HIM, you defend what is right. Tomorrow it will be your father they are carting off to prison for violating the same law.
Are we just living on a different planet over here in North America*?
*USA and Canada, the REAL North America; not the "North America" that features Mexico hanging on like a skateboarder hanging onto a bus.
>>71223687
You can in Sweden
>>71233130
you mean long dead and gone, centuries past
but why not have more fanatical fantasies in the open, here and now, as you furiously type toward 50 posts in this thread
the funny thing is that insulted is just another way of saying offended
people in here are defending erdogan's right to be offended
kek
>>71222336
He did violate a law, it was just a super obscure, old law that is almost never enforced. But, yeah, still facist.
>>71233447
>>71222336
'Teh fascism is anything le I don't like!!!!' xD
You fucking illiterate morons are playing right into this cuck's hands, continue to whine about how a bolshevik cunt deserves freedom
>>71233155
>you defend what is right
It would be right if Böhmermann never ever got to enter a TV station ever again.
I don't care about what he said about Erdogan. He said it specifically so that he may get sued, anyway. He's an attention whore, and the best I can do is to give him as little attention as possible; Pretend nothing happened. If a Turksmell approaches me and asks me about my opinion on Böhmermann, I'll say "Who?" Because I don't care. This is a setup by very certain interest groups to ruin our coordination with Turkey, because someone is obviously mad that we managed to formulate protection from the refugees. Fuck them. Fuck them all to hell.
>>71225127
my sides, this guy is great
>>71228678
based nederland
>>71227692
arbeit macht frei
