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Why did America lose Vietnam?
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>>71151959

Kissinger
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Because they're a meme country.
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Sure they did Nguyen
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>>71151959
Because US politicians wanted us to lose. Militarily, the US was winning.
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>>71151959
Because the Viet Cong broke the peace agreement we settled with them after culling their numbers. After we left, they started shit again, and Americans could hardly give less than a shit.
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because it was designed to be lost
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>>71152052
Stop forcing that shitty meme you faggot
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>>71151959
Because they were too retarded to make a deal with Uncle Ho.
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communist subverison such as the hippy movement and in the media
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>>71151959

Because the media managed to spin one of the single biggest military defeats at the hands of the US as being a bad sign for the US war effort.
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America is not a fortunate son.
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>>71151959
Public opinion
It was a war nobody wanted that lasted way too long
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>>71151959
They didn't really loose they just took their bat and ball and went home. It was all because of subversive elements of society. Probably started by the USSR to push a socialist cultural change within the country. We are now starting to see it come to a head with all the really dumb Tranny rights shit
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>>71151959
Victory requires sacrifice and the Will to succeed.
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Kissinger advised against Nixon nuking Vietnam.
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unwilling to call it a day without an "honorable" exit
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>>71151959
Because US-soldiers are degenerate faggots and can't do shit.

They are currently losing Afghanistan too.
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>>71152335
When's the last time you won a war?
Eighteenth century?
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>>71151959
muh containment and most people/soldiers thought it was a stupid war. You can't kill an ideology which is what is happening in the middle east right now.
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>>71151959
Search and destroy was an absolutely idiotic tactic that caused the war to stretch on longer than it otherwise would have needed to. Rather than strategic territory capture and control to try and push the Vietcong back making it easier to flush them out, they would win a battle and just abandon the area allowing the Vietcong to come back in and take it.

They were only obsessed with body count and while eventually it is true that we were actually finally winning especially after the failure of the tet offensive the media coverage of the war had made it extremely disliked leading to a massive drop in volunteers (which led to them having to bring in a lot of unwilling draftees) and a loss of support by the voting population and the politicians back home. Essentially the vietcong won the war by making the people of the US turn against their own military.
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>>71151959

because the vietnamese were some tough motherfuckers who were willing to die for their country.

my friend is a south vietnamese guy (one of the losers) who came to america. he's about 5 feet tall, but he rules the RV park that he manages.

you have to know one to understand it. they are serious. they are smart. they are ruthless.

america had no chance.
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>>71152504
We never lost against a bunch of farmers or 200 taliban goatfuckers.

We lost against millions of sowjet soldiers.
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>>71152626
>we lost

You sure did
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>>71152626
As if the Austrian military could have defeated the NVA. Stop it.

You don't even have a navy. You're simply not a real country.
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>>71152626
You did far worse.
You lost against Italy.
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>>71152504
Don't make me bring up the emus
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North Vietnam wanted it more. Public at home didn't give a shit and the media portrayed it as a losing battle despite US dominating the whole war so everyone just wanted to leave.
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>>71151959
because of FUCKING LIBERALS sabotaging post war programs that SV depended on.

MUH PROGRAMS
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>>71152782
T R I C K E D
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>>71152751
All your aircraft carries can't compensate your cowardly soldiers.

You get BTFO by farmers.
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>>71153036

austria.

remind me how you handled the nazis.

lerll
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>>71153036
The Viet Cong were farmers/guerrillas, but the NVA was a professional army. Stop with this myth.
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>>71153165
>how you handled the nazis.
i think you don't know what you are talking about.
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America losing Vietnam meme
>we kill millions of them
>control their entire nation
>only 58,000 dead on our side
>they are utterly destroyed and almost can't recover
>we leave
>some insurgents take over after we leave

HURR AMERICA IS LOSERS
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1. Were fighting far from home against an enemy who was fighting at home for their country.
2. Public opinion was very very low.
3. Were not experienced in fighting guerrillas and so used conventional tactics, which did kill a lot of VC but drove the moderates to become in favour of Communism.
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>>71153036
for every american soldier that died, more than 10 vietcong soldiers died. Some estimates put that up to around 20 vietcong.

These were "farmers" who were given weapons, supplies and training by China and the USSR.
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>>71153229
Yeah. But they were a professional ASIAN army.
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>>71151959
SHOVE THE MUSLIMS INTO THE OVENS
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>>71153276

sure. when the nazis came in and fucked your whole country over, you were one of the austrian nazis saying "hey pls fuck us over".

lol. must be nice.
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>>71153306
Germany killed millions of Russian troops but they still lost the war.
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Because we weren't allowed to invade Cambodia.
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>>71153229
Oh, come on, don't overestimate the NVA.

Just because your stupid soldiers on LSD got BTFO by them, doesn't mean that they were some sort of secret nija supersoldier army.

Your soldiers where to busy being stoned and raping children, so they got killed by farmers with pitchforks.
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>>71153464
Once again thanks to America
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>>71153306
at no point in time did the us control north vietnam, and it was the regular north vietnamese army that took over after you left

the vietnam war had a winner, and it was north vietnam. they achieved their clearly states strategic aims. you did not. get over it and move on.
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>>71153574
No, thanks to Russia.
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>>71153459
like i said, you don't know shit.

You are just a living example of the US education system. I bet you know every US-president by name + term of office, but you can't find Austria on an unlabeled worldmap.
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>>71153306
>US starts war in vietnam to control the expansion of communism
>napalms a bunch of farmers and loses the support back home
>pull out of vietnam and it immediately becomes a communist country

MISSION AGGOMPLISHED
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>>71153542

I'll be the 1st American to say we lost that awful conflict.

But we massacred them, it was damn near a genocide
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>>71153621
3 arabs are currently defeating your country. They are the clear winners. You are losers. Get over it and move on.
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>>71152335
>beat Japan on one side of the world
>beat Germany on the other
>pushed the commies out of South Korea
>invaded and occupied Iraq in a week
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>>71153722
Just above Italy, below Germany, next to Switzerland.

I remember learning about how you guys used to have an empire but you got BTFO
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>>71153843
>helped in defeating Japan
>helped in defeating Germany
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>>71153783
>But we massacred them, it was damn near a genocide
That's right.

But there is nothing honorable in killing civilians and raping children.

You killed 10% of the Northkorean population in the korean war too.
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>>71153999
>You killed 10% of the Northkorean population in the korean war too.

Clearly wasn't enough desu
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meme meme meme meme meme meme mem meme meme
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hey guys! wanna build a wall with me?
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>>71153954

Without American manufacturing, the allies would never have won

look up lend lease sometime
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GAS THE KIKES! RACE WAR NOW!
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>>71154206
Hence why I said helped.
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MEME
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>>71154206
>muh important
Go away Yank loser.
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AMERITARDS SUCK! LONG LIVE KIM JUNG-UN!
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>>71154339
>flag
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>>71153843
>beat Germany on the other

Let me correct that:
> is to scared to enter WW2
> watch the Sowjets beat Germany
> enter war right in time, so that the Sowjets won't take all of Europe and the US won't have to be in an serious battle
> get attacked by japs
> win against japs with an bomb, developed by imported foreign scientists
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>>71154204
>>71154289
>>71154373

more like Buildwall Fag am i right?
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>>71153954
>helped in defeating Japan

We just about soloed Japan.
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>>71153036
STFU m8

Please excuse my autistic compatriot there.
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>>71154401
America
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>>71154474
SHUT UP AMERITARD, GO SUCK OBAMA´S DICK.
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>>71154474
you're totally right man
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>>71154518
Hello proxy faggot.
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>>71152140
You don't win a war "militarily". War is about achieving political goals
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>>71154507
>What is Manchuria
>What is Burma
>What is China
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>>71154683
SORRY I DONT SPEAK SURRENDER
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>>71154683
>be french
>surrender
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>>71154518
Austria
>>71154507
America
>>71154683
France
>>71154689
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Austria
>>71154507
America
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France
>>71154689
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Austria
>>71154507
America
>>71154683
France
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Austria
>>71154507
America
>>71154683
France
>>71154689
????
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>>71152621
I love Vietnamese people.
>Proud
>Tough
>Don't give a fuck
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>>71151959

Lacked the political will to finish the job
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>>71154895
Canada
>>71154895
Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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Canada
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>>71154535
Italy
>>71154535
Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
>>71154535
Italy
>>71154535
Italy
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>>71154895
AND A CANADIAN HAD TO SHOW UP.
WHY DO YOU COME HERE?
IS THERE ANY MOOSE PORN IN HERE?
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>>71153843
>invaded and occupied Iraq in a week

3, actually
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>>71154915
America>>71154915
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America
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>>71155006
Stop copying other people's memes, dude.
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bc we did not invade Cambodia and the VC used that country for its endless supply lines
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>>71154895
DUDE
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>>71155032
Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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Italy
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>>71155076
USA USA USA>>71155076
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USA USA USA
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>>71155072

>Be Cote D'ivoire
>Being on the internet
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>>71152052
Literally every thread I've visited today, Litvak.
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>>71155072
no u
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>>71152621
>america had no chance.
We were winning though
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>>71155087
>>71155012
>>71154953
Something triggered?
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DUDE
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>>71154895
>>71155087
WHY DOES HE COME HERE?
SRSLY? GIVE THIS FUCKER A TRANNY HOOKER SO HE CAN GO AWAY.
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>>71152562
>You can't kill an ideology
Nice meme. Also, tell that to the Nazis.
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>>71155204
DUDE.
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>>71155122
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>>71155204
WEED
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>>71155238
I seriously don't know who you're talking about. I rarely come on 4chan.
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>>71155193
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>>71155204
GO AWAY COMMIE BASTARD.
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>>71155396

Hail Britannia
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>>71155398
VIET CONG the master race. It don't matter if you've got the world in your hands. They will never bow down to you. You will never take their honour. Let's go VIET CONG!
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>>71155398
MEXICO
>>71155398
MEXICO
>>71155398
MEXICO
>>71155398
MEXICO
>>71155398
MEXICO
>>71155398
MEXICO
>>71155398
MEXICO


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>>71155475
>implying Brits are important in this world.
Shut up. You were cucked by your former colony.
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>>71151959
Leftists sabotaged the war effort mere months before our success. In doing so, they murdered millions of people.

Once again, the Left is responsible for the deaths of countless innocents because they preferred letting their Leftist murderer friends win.
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>>71151959
Because we shouldn't have been in there in the first place. Then, when we were in there, we'd kill a bunch of them, get scared that the Russkies would get involved or some other bullshit, then pull back and they'd regroup. Eventually, it became clear that the South was corrupt like fuck, and if we did win, we would be in the business of spending shitloads of money nation building and gain nothing from it. (By 1971 we were running into some serious monetary issues that resulted from The Great Society and Vietnam, so there is that as well.) So Nixon started bombing the shit of them so that we could get terms we could live with when we withdrew, and the North eventually said "OK roundeye, you get POWs back, quit bombing and reave!"
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>>71155550

Failed quints confirm your lies
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>>71155550
BUILD WALL
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>>71155561
>>71155552
lets face it, your country´s government can´t possibly be more retarded.
>>71155619
>relying on number to confirm whether a fact is true or false
Get the fuck out of this board, cuckmaster
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>>7115 Anonymous (ID: flvCY3oN) 04/16/16(Sat)22:32:26 No.71155552 â–¶
>>71151959 (OP)
Leftists sabotaged the war effort mere months before our success. In doing so, they murdered millions of people.

Once again, the Left is responsible for the deaths of countless innocents because they preferred letting their Leftist murderer friends win.
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Anonymous (ID: u88m3iJD) 04/16/16(Sat)22:32:32 No.71155561 â–¶
>>71151959 (OP)
Because we shouldn't have been in there in the first place. Then, when we were in there, we'd kill a bunch of them, get scared that the Russkies would get involved or some other bullshit, then pull back and they'd regroup. Eventually, it became clear that the South was corrupt like fuck, and if we did win, we would be in the business of spending shitloads of money nation building and gain nothing from it. (By 1971 we were running into some serious monetary issues that resulted from The Great Society and Vietnam, so there is that as well.) So Nixon started bombing the shit of them so that we could get terms we could live with when we withdrew, and the North eventually said "OK roundeye, you get POWs back, quit bombing and reave!"
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Anonymous (ID: 70krSV1M) 04/16/16(Sat)22:33:21 No.71155619 â–¶
>>71155550

Failed quints confirm your lies
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Kai Leng [Cerberus] !!Vsfvmzcaa54 (ID: RjuYeHw6) 04/16/16(Sat)22:33:39 No.71155638 â–¶
>>71155550
BUILD WALL5638

>>71155638
>>71155638
>>71155638
>>71155638
>>71155638
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>>71153777
/thread
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>>71153722
>You are just a living example of the US education system. I bet you know every US-president by name + term of office,

You clearly know very little about our education system. On average, we cannot name 10 presidents, and whe sure as fuck couldn't tell you when they were in office.

*Ten presidents is generous.
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>>71155696
WALL
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>>71152052
Based Jojo fan.
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>>71155696
>not relying on number to confirm whether a fact is true or false

get off my website you utter waste of space
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>>71155696
GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE

MEXICAN TURKEY GOBBLE GOBBLE
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>>71155716
FUCK OUT OF HERE, YOU HAVE NO JOB.

LARGO PINCHE GACHUPIN
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>>71155753
>mongol weeb???
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>>71155772
> Uses the rivals argument to say somthing stupid.
This is why you got cucked.
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>>71155881
>>71155808
>>71155838
[22:31:08] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: keep replying to the canadian
[22:31:26] Faggot Steve 57: what?
[22:35:25] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: now its me?
[22:37:20] Faggot Steve 57: I think we have created the most autistic thread ever
[22:37:27] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: the britfag bit the bait
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>>71154796
>>71154819
kek'd
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>>71155838
Shut the fuck up you fucking obese lard
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>>71155808
English. Learn it or get out.
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>>71155939
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>>71155990
>Anonymous (ID: 3FBNfx4l) 04/16/16(Sat)22:38:41 No.71155990 â–¶
>>>71155808
>English. Learn it or get out.
English language
Spoken language
English is a West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca. English is either the official language or an official language in almost 60 sovereign states. Wikipedia
Native speakers: 360 – 400 million
Language family: Anglo-Frisian languages, more
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Early forms: Middle English, Old English, Early Modern English
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>>71155974
Ching ching ding dong ding
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>>71155990
AND ANOTHER KEK SHOWS UP.
>be NZ
>important
pick one you poor, unimportant, piece of shit country
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[22:19:05] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: POST SOVIET SHIT TO TRIGGER THEM
[22:19:16] Faggot Steve 57: I just rekt your ass
[22:19:59] Faggot Steve 57: Andrei is out autisming you
[22:21:13] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: TRUE
[22:21:23] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: POST SOVIET SHIT
[22:21:52] Faggot Steve 57: no
[22:22:17] Faggot Steve 57: post pictures of your obese latina mother
[22:22:31] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: TRIGGER THE FRENCH POSTER
[22:23:53] Faggot Steve 57: Andrei is killing it in this thread
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[22:30:53] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: TRUE
[22:30:58] Irish: what spam
[22:31:08] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: keep replying to the canadian
[22:31:26] Faggot Steve 57: what?
[22:35:25] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: now its me?
[22:37:20] Faggot Steve 57: I think we have created the most autistic thread ever
[22:37:27] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: the britfag bit the bait
[22:39:11] Faggot Steve 57: We got (you)s
[22:39:30] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: YEAH
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delet dis
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>>71156194
I deleted your sisters virginity last night senpai
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>>71155881
>This is why you got cucked.

Mate, at least I'm not a third world country
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Hippies through a bitch fit and politicians caved to win votes

America won every major military confrontation in the vietnam war. Even when they pulled out it was technically at stalemate, but then america didn't return when the norks broke the cease fire, even though they should have

That being said, it would have gone smoother with more bombs and less ground troops
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>>71156247
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>71156240
Kai Leng [Cerberus] !!Vsfvmzcaa54 (ID: RjuYeHw6) 04/16/16(Sat)22:42:01 No.71156240 â–¶
>>71156194 (You)
I deleted your sisters virginity last night senpaiKai Leng [Cerberus] !!Vsfvmzcaa54 (ID: RjuYeHw6) 04/16/16(Sat)22:42:01 No.71156240 â–¶
>>71156194 (You)
I deleted your sisters virginity last night senpaiKai Leng [Cerberus] !!Vsfvmzcaa54 (ID: RjuYeHw6) 04/16/16(Sat)22:42:01 No.71156240 â–¶
>>71156194 (You)
I deleted your sisters virginity last night senpai
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no you didnt
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>>71156247
>at least I'm not a third world country

What flag is that again?
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>>71156240
I downloaded your mum's virginity this morning desu desu
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>>71156194
>doesnt know how to delete a post
GTFO PASTA.
>>71156247
Beeter being fucked up than cucked, at least I got dignity to feign.
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[22:39:30] Griffith The White Hawk of Midland: YEAH
[22:40:38] Faggot Steve 57: MIEK
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[22:40:42] Faggot Steve 57: MIEK
[22:40:43] Faggot Steve 57: MIEK
[22:40:44] Faggot Steve 57: MIEK
[22:41:14] Faggot Steve 57: Classic andrei
[22:42:58] Faggot Steve 57: Andrei
[22:43:02] Faggot Steve 57: I just killed you
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>>71155561

>Because we shouldn't have been in there in the first place.

Because america pulled out the communists killed millions of people across south east asia
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>>71156470
kek´d
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By the way bothers, sieg heil

>>71156513
You'll never experience national reawakening
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>>71151959
it is by America's grace alone that Vietnam still exists today. same with the entirety of the middle east.
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>>71156556
pig fuckers>>71156556
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pig fuckers>>71156556
pig fuckers>>71156556
pig fuckers

>>71156513
mexico mexico mexico mexico
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Humiliate me. Taking orders.

Mache Alles


Skype name qaswerqwer
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>>71156655

>pig fuckers

mate I'm not British
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>>71156676
fake
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>>71156707
>UK
I KNOW YOU ARENT HAHAHAHAHAHAH>>71156707
>UK
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>UK
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>UK
I KNOW YOU ARENT HAHAHAHAHAHAH>>71156707
>UK
I KNOW YOU ARENT HAHAHAHAHAHAH>>71156707
>UK
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>UK
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>UK
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>>71156771
You wanna have a go or something?

Give me your address you fucking piece of trash
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>>71152315
this
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>>71153306
>>control their entire nation
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>>71151959
The Americans lost Vietnam because the American people are cry baby pussies. They expect the world to roll over in a fight but those extra trillions only bought you a little extra time and a few lives saved. When the going gets to the the people cry to come home and hide it behind some B's liberal the world is one rhetoric. A very shallow and spineless people hiding behind technologies gy instead of social welfare with very little vigour or sincerity.
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>>71153785
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>>71154507
That's right for the navy, but you still got helped by European scientist (Oppenheimer, Einstein ...) for the bomb and the Chinese handled a large part of the Japanese army.
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How could usa lose when hi chi minh city has a Mcdonalds
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Kek.

I love these threads. The yankydoodledandy butthurt is amazing.

More crumpets, Jeeves.
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>>71157446
Oppenheimer was European?
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>>71154819
>be American
>Allah Wakbar
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>>71155508
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>>71151959
Lack of political will. It's literally that simple.
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>>71157565

>be French
>surrender when Belgium is attacked
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>>71152621
C U C K
U
C
K
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>>71157539
He wasn't, my bad.
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>>71151959
Because we didn't really want to win
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>>71151959
The indomitable spirit of the Vietnamese people which can be traced back to the Trung sisters through to the French Empire.
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>>71151959
Because it wasn't about winning or losing.
It was about getting a share of the military contracts.

Oh, and the Jesuits' New World Order.
(I just named the mysterious "THEY")

pic related if you have the energy to look into the name
See also: Assassination of President Diem, 2 November 1963 (that's exactly 20 days before the JFK assassination)

(redpill)
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>>71151959

it wasn't worth the trouble.
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