Is nofap a meme? or is noporn the best option?
>>71143870
Ive been on no fab for 4/5 days now and its not so bad. slight shift in energy and drive. Getting out of bed is easy as fuck for some reason. Maybe its placibo but, its working.
Nope, a Finnish doc posted about it on 4+4
Your testosterone levels increase from day 1-5
Day 6-8 it flatlines
After that it crashes
Test needs androgen receptors, it's like an activator
It needs time to activate because blood stream will have random amounts of test and andros
After the crash There'll be more andros than test
So the body produces more test and increases the baseline every cycle
THIS explains the flat lines in moods you feel
>>71144196
>Ive been on no fab for 4/5 days now and its not so bad. slight shift in energy and drive. Getting out of bed is easy as fuck for some reason. Maybe its placibo but, its working.
>placibo
Placebo you fucking retard.
>>71144567
spellcheck did it you whore monger
>>71143870
I fap and watch porn, I'm on nocum.
>>71143870
It's a well known fact all asian women are whores. The fact that you're using one as an image makes me think that your father didn't teach you how to be a real men so you're settling for subhuman filth. Kill yourself nigger.
>>71145275
underrated post
>>71145275
they also all have rosties.
NoInternet is the only thing that really fixes your life.
>>71143870
The vagina is a special place.
>>71145275
This.
>>71144196
9 days here, completely lost interest in even thinking about sex which I see as a good thing.
Hasn't done anything to fix my sleep patterns, because I know the real problem is 4chan/internet addiction. At this point I can go without porn without even trying as long as I have shitposting and youtube to distract me instead.
>>71143870
nofap is reddit broscience about retaining your energy or whatever when men are designed to ejaculate every day to such an extent that you'll cum in your sleep if you dont jerk off
noporn is redpilled though since you shouldnt expose yourself to all the unhealthy expectations and overstimulation of the mostly jewish produced porn industry
>>71145779
if you were a porn addict you'll find that you won't even want to fap once you quit porn since the two have been conditioned together for so long. At least for a long time (probably at least a month) you'll become completely asexual and not even be attracted to real women
>>71145594
I wish I could do NoInternet..
>>71145779
This.
The whole thing with nofap is that for most people masturbation and porn go hand in hand. Porn addiction is as real as drug addiction, internet porn has only been around for 20 or so years compared to millions of years of evolution and the unlimited availability of new women and fetishes causes your brain to release dopamine (sp?) at such high levels that you get habituated to it and eventually the only thing that can make you feel good anymore is porn.
But if you fap without porn its no different physically than having sex everyday which you are built for
>>71145703
Heh yeah its a good start.
1 step at a time
>>71143870
7 years here.
I feel excellent. So much energy and time for activities. I realized that touching my dick must make me gay if I enjoy doing it so much, so I started going to church every Sunday.
Truly the ultimate red-pill.
>>71146279
are you planning on marrying or being celibate for life?
I'm lonely and would really want a wife, but I'm also legitimately diagnosed autistic and fear that I'm not meant to pass on my genes or raise a family
>>71146113
What if you dong get into the kinky porn, just stick with relatively basic shit?
>>71143870
12 days is my nofap record.
365 days noporn.
Currently at 41 days noporn.
>>71143870
I think no fap is basically impossible
Obviously not looking at porn is good but man its hard not to
The biggest thing is to avoid seeing images that would trigger your sexual desires
>>71146470
if you've gone on 4chan at all in that time you've technically broken noporn though.
though it is different between seeing it on 4chan randomly and intentionally seeking it out to arouse yourself.
>>71145876
I never got why people cant separate jerking off and porn (like does no one jerk it in the shower anymore?)
but I guess what you described is good for you in the long run if you actually have an addiction making you unhappy
>>71146533
Idk, after a week I find that sexual images make me nauseous and not turned on and are naturally repulsive to me. I have to deliberately focus on getting hard if I want to be "triggered"
How are you guys able to nofap when browsing /pol/?
I feel like blocking 4chan each time I try to nofap
>>71146563
I'm don't go on /b/ anymore.
Mostly /k/, /pol/, /mu/ and /tv/.
YOu just need to scroll down when you spot porn. Mind over body.
Man has lust. Fapping and sex releases said lust. If you're addicted to it then it's a problem but if you go once a day or even less in moderation there's nothing wrong with it.
>>71146677
I hate to say it but 8pol might not be a horrible idea to migrate to. It's a blue board there
What about jerking it to nudes of your gf
It's a well known fact that one should fap six times a day, MINIMUM.
>>71146912
that's just stupid and means you don't have a good relationship with her and/or are doing some bullshit long distance thing.
imo better to get married right away than bother with an extended period of cohabitation and premarital sex.
>>71146912
also related, is keeping ex's nudes healthy?
I sometimes just stare at them longingly knowing i fucked up so bad
>>71146440
That works, but you can't. On a long enough timeline, everyone needs more.
>>71146598
This.
>tfw no virgin traditional Catholic qt3.14 w/gr8feets to marry so I can give up porn forever and never have to worry about wearing a condom
Life is suffering
>>71143870
Only works if you combine it with cutting down your net use, the point of NoFap is to be too busy to bust nuts desu.
You're fucking retarded if you replace porn time with shitposting on 4chan time. Go be productive if you want le sooperpowers.
>>71146912
I think still pictures is a lot better than the hypnotic quality of videos of porn since most of the action is still happening in your imagination
>>71146975
realistically your gf is not always there
>>71146989
if you dont share them then it doesnt really matter
>>71147011
im 27 and still can get hard to lesbian kissing, i actually made a concerted effort to tone it back in my mid 20s.
>>71146899
Good idea, I'll do that for a month and see if nofap is bullshit or not by myself, ty
>>71143870
Nope. It'll give you an increased libido alongside heightened testosterone levels. So you'll be more active and sociable while slightly increasing self esteem. It also means you won't be spending all your time jacking off.
It's fucking bullshit. It doesn't increase your desire to go out and get women, it doesn't increase testosterone, your lifts don't go up, it doesn't make you more motivated or alpha. It's all a placebo. I did it for 36 days and felt the same.
>>71143870
It only increases test levels
>>71145034
That has to be endlessly frustrating. Par for the course with Sweden, you even kuck yourself.
>>71143870
Just realized she's wearing black panties. What a shame.
ive been on noporn for about a week. i jerk ofg in the shower only looking at my dick.
something about it feels more powerful and my orgasms nearly shoot to the eall everytime.
>>71145034
edging like that can be dangerous
>>71147296
You might be a faggot m8. A week of no fap makes me almost cripplingly horny.
>>71147366
>>71145703
that's called a reset, usually lasts for a few weeks and then you go through a period where you want to fuck anything and everything.
>>71147404
>only looking at my dick.
>>71147421
this I can go a week max
>>71147179
The real trick is to be aroused by just a picture of a naked girl. You're like a functional alcoholic.
>>71145594
I know you're right but I just can't escape. Even when I was backpacking around Asia I would be shitposting from airports and on bus journeys. There really is no escape.
>>71147296
nice scientific study you did there you faggot. if all were done like that then shit like tylonol wouldnt ever be sold since it doesnt get rid of my headaches.
>>71147404
I actually know that feel. I've never once had a gay feeling for another dude, but I legit get turned on the harder I get.
>>71146440
If porn is the only stimulation you are getting, you will eventually go to the kinkier stuff. It's pretty much inevitable, even if you don't purposely seek it out.
Eventually vanilla porn just won't be enough to really get you going. Then one day you'll see something a bit more kinky in the related videos or just some porn thread.
Then it's down the rabbit hole.
I went from jerking it to youtube videos of chicks dancing to softcore to lesbian porn to standard hetero stuff to "rough" stuff to abuse porn all in the course of about 5 years or so.
Had to take a long break to kind of reset myself, but I could easily have kept going. I bet I'd be into some really weird and really dark shit if I had kept on that path.
Now I sort of grew into my in self and can get real women pretty regularly so my porn usage has dropped off significantly. If I do watch it, it's usually pretty tame stuff.
You'll cum in your sleep anyway.
Any physical effects you feel are manufactured in your mind.
>>71144487
What happens when you learn to Poo In Loo? Does your energy level increase so much you become a superpower?!? :^)
>>71146598
How the fuck do you do it? I've been on noporn for two years, and I just can't fap in the shower no matter how hard I try, I never cum. It needs to be in bed in a sock with my right hand or nothing.
>>71143870
It's not a meme, but good luck sticking with it.
Nofap is, in fact, a meme.
Well
I can tell you that I fap to porn regularly and the MAJOR effect that it has on me is I can't cum when I'm with a chick
I have 0 problems getting it up and staying hard but literally cannot cum if I'm not on my own touching myself in front of a computer screen
>>71147947
ease up on the grip
>>71145688
88 confirms
>>71147988
When I try to switch hands and go softer then I can't cum watching porn and there's no fun in that
I don't know wtf to do
>>71147933
Stop posting this image
>>71148136
If you abstain for 2 weeks you'll be able to cum with your other hand and minimal touching
noporn is retarded, the media itself is a form of pornography, might as well turn off everything
>>71147947
>>71148136
That would be death grip you dingus. Get a fleshlight and stop fapping so hard.
>>71148176
fuck you're probably right. I'm actually going to try this and see if it allows me to cum with less strenuous rubbing thanks
>>71147737
Stop stealing our plans for world domination goddammit
>>71148289
>fleshlight
get an onahole, fleshlights are shit
>>>/jp/onaho
Well, I tried it for 2 months and it did absolutely nothing besides cumming twice in my sleep and staining my underwear.
I heard about some study claiming it doesn't matter if you do keep doing it after a week or so in terms of testosterone production.
>>71147909
Fug I need some sauce
>>71148367
Guess it was this one http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241
>On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak.
So yeah I guess it's somehow beneficial if you cum once per week.
>>71148460
Ladies vs butlers Ova 2 or 3. Meh ecchi show, but it had its high points.
There's a reason the church has taught celibacy until marriage for thousands of years.
>>71147410
It trains the mind to resist brainwashing techniques and prevent thoughtmining.
How can it be dangerous though?
>>71144196
Holy shit me to
Epic bruv
Yes, it's a meme.
Stop fucking asking this.
>>71147649
>backpacking around Asia
Why you assumed you wouldn't have downtime to shitpost?
Where'd you backpack around? I've always wanted to backpack in Asia.
>>71143870
>those dead, soulless eyes
Why does this make my dick hard?
>>71148911
yet even most nofap people will say
"dude do noFap , it'll help you get laid and up your GAME bro"
which defeats the purpose in the first place.
>>71147611
I've never passed this. I can easily pop with a naked picture or even if a woman has a really hot face.
>>71148970
>flag
you should also check out the Wim Hoff breathing technique. Its legit
https://youtu.be/A9zS94x2nd8
>>71149263
It reminds you of yourself?
>>71148963
desensitization, also your training yourself not to cum. risky stuff
28 days nofap here, basically 4 weeks. I noticed that my libido is really higher than it has ever been, probably rapist-tier.
The good thing with nofap is that you will have to do stuff in order to keep being busy which leads to a lot of work done and multplying hobbies. I highly recommend it for every one of you
I think there are actual medical studies the link regular seminal release to a significant improvement in prostate health and stress levels.
If anything, not getting of regularly is probably detrimental to your health.
>>71144487
So you HAVE to fap every fifth day to keep your T in check?
Greentext story of when I whent a month without tapping
>freshman year of college
>still a virgin
>used to tapping every night at home
>to scared to fap in dorm
>get gf
>she is slutty as fuck
>gives me handjobs but doesn't let me cum
>gives me lapdances with her panties in
>this goes on like every night for a,month
>haven't fapped or cummed in a month
>finally she tells me 2 fuck her
>sex for a while
>she tells me 2 cum on her
>rip condom off and blast the biggest load I've ever seen, better than professional pornstar load
>she smiles and tells me it was amazing
>she is literally glazed like a donut in my cum
Good times
>>71150213
I'm sure it varies from person to person. Once weekly is probably fine.
>>71150213
Yes, minimum is five and maximum is 8 days, you should feel the effects of the test crashing
But the point is that is the longer run with abstinence the baseline for test increases which means more test per cycle
Here's some redpilling for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
>>71150757
>the longer run with abstinence the baseline for test increases which means more test per cycle
Wait, i'm a bit confused. If is still abstain for more than the recommended maximum of 8 days, once i pass the flatline, the next release will set me up for a better baseline?
So this is like a pyramid progression in lifting? Abstain 5 days, then 8, then longer and etc.
Or am i getting this wrong?
Last time I didn't fap for 2 days I had a hard on for an entire car journey while wearing trackies and at the end there was a wet spot through my boxers and onto the pants.
Never again.
>>71151098
Suppose you start at X level of test before Nofap and jack off till you're drained in preparation, and you do a week of Nofap.
The T levels will crash to a higher value than x because semen is still retained
But because of the week you abstained there will the androgen receptors in the bloodstream and the body should produce enough T to match it, which increases the overall level of T as compared to the last cycle
The wording by the Finn is a bit weird but the basic idea is that the levels of test increase per cycle
AND no it isn't like the pyramid cycle, it's weekly as in you should find when your test crashes, that's usually between 5-8 days, if its on say 6 then you have a 6 day cycle.
>>71151098
The cycle remains in place, you fap when you feel a crash, which should be between 5 to 8 days.
It's not meant to wean you off fapping completely, but to find your crash cycle, fap, and eventually raise your natural T to its plateau, and hopefully keep it there by maintaining your cycle.
>>71144663
why would spellcheck make up a word that doesn't exist?
>>71151762
>>71152008
Got it, thanks bros.
>>71151762
>>71152008
wait, how you're for sure know you're crashing, short of scheduling blood work in that time frame?
>>71152766
OH yeah, semen retention is good for the skin as well, excess masturbation leads to low levels of zinc
That's why people say you jack off too much you get pimples
Semen has one of the highest concentrations of zinc
>>71153025
It's called flatlining which is essentially a broscience word, when you go on longer Nofap runs upto three months you'll have periods where you'll feel extremely driven and motivated (test rise phase) and another phase where you feel like shit and don't feel like doing anything because you're drained. It's hard to explain unless seen first hand but it's definitely a chemical phenomenon and not average laziness and you'll know for sure when it happens. That's the crash.
>>71153118
I have wet dreams once a week though. Doesn't that mean I don't need to fap, since I release semen anyways and so my test levels go back up?
>>71153400
How do you narrow detection of the crash down to three days though. I know what you're talking about, cause i've been on a monthly nofap in March, but it's hard to tell when you have three days to measure it.
Could be T crashing, could be just another rainy Monday.
>>71151110
What are trackies?
>>71147543
if it´s about the test level. so i can jerk off erry day if i lift? lifting increases testosterone
>>71146422
>I'm also legitimately diagnosed autistic
Shill making fun of 4chan spotted.
>>71153429
I don't think wet dreams every week is normal but eh you're right, it's actually pretty convenient
Draining your balls by kicking off five times in a row or in succeeding days five times a week etc will absolutely kill you though.
Look the thing you have to understand is that every if you have enough test in your bloodstream it's not guaranteed to be effective by its presence because it needs androgen receptors which may or may not be there to achieve the testosterone effect by activation. So basically when you abstain you give the body time so that you can utilize the test in your body by allowing it to "meet" androgen receptors. If you jack off before that you will lose T and it'll be useless effectively
>>71153429
wet dreams are a result of a lack of ejaculation. it's literally your body saying "hey, you've got some really old, overly matured semen in here and we need to get it out so we'll do it for you since you're being retarded."
>>71154115
You shouldn't worry too much about that detail, it's not like a snap of the finger and boom T crash, it happens over a period of time. Just go with your gut feeling and jack it.
>>71143870
Porn is unacceptable. If you must fap, use your imagination.
>>71154397
Uhh, maybe sweatpants in your country?
Ill generally just start with fapping to a photo of some nude girl...
Once im hard i just close my phone and use my imagination to finish.
Helped me get out of the rougher more violent porn and back into non extreme porns.
>>71154743
thiskek
>>71154397
Stop it fellow burger, you're making us look bad.
>>71156156
That's actually a good idea. I've been noticing my tastes progressing into the realm of the extreme, so ima do this.
>>71149408
wat de fug?
i don't need air anymore
>>71149263
You are attracted to great white sharks like me, go jerk off to great white sharks. They have dead soulless doll eyes.
>>71157175
/hr/ is pretty great for this
