Pol's opinion on smoking in pubs.
Smoking in pubs should be legal again cos it's part of of our culture and it's what makes a manly pub manly. Plus it'd increase customers in pubs and we'd gain more money on tobacco sales. Pub owners deserve to have the choice
>>71132254
Bring back freddo frogs
>>71132330
Wait, they don't make Freddo frogs anymore!?
>>71132254
I usually smoke when I'm drinking... but no thanks, I don't want that shit back.
If you want a smoke, go outside.
>>71132254
Of course it should be legal, drinking and smoking go together.
I think it's all part of a systematic breaking down of all things masculine. The American revolution from you bongs was planned in taverns, which is why feminism infiltrates male spaces.
>>71132409
No they just cost way more. I saw some in a paki shop for 70p each
>>71132254
"Smoking is degenerate" - Adolf Hitler
>>71132442
You could have separate rooms in pubs for smoking
>>71132254
Should be allowed. Nonesmokers always had cafés, restaurants or nightclubs, that didn't and still don't allow smoking indoors. Everyone knows what to expect at a bar, so they can't bitch about smoking. It's like going to a danceclub and getting 'offended' that they play loud music.
>>71132524
>70p
fucking hell. they used to be 20p back in 2005.
>>71132254
Smoking is for minorities, poor people, and wiggers. They should be allowed to destroy themselves in the hovels where they gather so yes, smoking in pubs should be up to the owner of the pub.
>>71132254
Pubs should have the choice. Smoking pubs should be default and signs could indicate non-smoking pubs (of course they'd suffer, but free market..)
I like having to get up off the bar stool and walk outside to smoke. When smoking was allowed indoors, I would stay seated on the bar stool for hours, and then when I stood up and tried to function I realized I was way more drunk than I thought I was. This lead to some difficult situations.
>>71133106
What about having to piss, or drinking spirits?
My opinion is biased but I think they should be allowed. In this commie town 20 miles away, you aren't allowed to smoke in the bars, and you're not even allowed to walk outside for a cigarette because they've banned public smoking on the main street where all the bars are located. It's a load of shit.
>>71133749
No freedom these days mate
Pubs, what pubs?
My town used to have ten pubs one dating to circa 17th century.
Now there are just 2 left and they are struggling to keep open and not become blocks of flats.
People just stopped going out drinking.
Freedom to do in your property what you want. Dont care if its degenerate.
I'm from New Orleans and smoking and drinking is a huge part of our culture and I find it very weird that people cannot smoke cigarettes in bars anymore
At least we can still drink in public
If people hate smoking so much, then a bar could cater to that demographic.
Free market niggers. Also I miss a nice smokey pub.
>>71134023
Yeah my village used to have thirteen and now we have 3. Granted the main pub got shut down cos too many fights and people getting stabbed but that was my favourite pub
>>71134023
Do you live in Scotland by any chance? the drinking limit for driving is so fucking stupid no one (especially out in the country) bothers to come to pubs anymore.
>>71132254
if nige were to smoke in a pub would he be arrested?
>>71134023
Used to be about 8 pubs in 2004 in my area alone now its 2 (becasue they either went under or got burnt down), 1 of which had someone shot in the other month and the other one is really nice but is struggling because everyone goes in to the town center to drink and go to clubs...gotta love Liverpool...help me
>>71132815
>tfw you always knew who the poor kid was because he always ate freddos at lunch time
>>71134455
He would indeed. He got pissed off cos he got told off for smoking OUTSIDE the pub entrance. He came back with a witty response "what is the ceiling not high enough?". I love that man so much plus he wants to legalise pub smoking
>>71134560
>tfw everyone in my generation uses the cost of freddos to gauge how bad the economy is
>>71132254
I don't smoke and I don't like being in rooms filled with smoke.
That said, I'm not a fucking child who expects to world to acquiesce to my whims. It's their business and their property, they should be able to do what they like with it.
>>71132254
I remember hearing in japan they have these vents above the booths so you could actually smoke and the table next to you would have no chance of smelling or breathing it in. Don't know if it'd be that expensive.
>>71134359
Outer London town.
I don't know if its the cost of going out & not the smoking ban that killed pubs?
A single pint here is like £3-4 and I can get 4 cans for that price, drink at home, have a smoke and not get into a fight
Smoking is fucking disgusting and retarded but I agree that the owners should have the final word on if they allow it or not.
Leave it up to the jurisdiction of the owners.
>2016
>Still smoking
>>71134811
>current year
>still doing what you want to your own body
fuck off fag
>>71134711
The size of mars bars too. Look at your index finger, they're about the same.
FUCKING COMMIE ECONOMY. The sugar tax is absolute bull too. All it's done is make fizzy drinks 10p more expensive and Jamie Oliver the fat fuck a big hardon.
/rant
>>71132658
If Ehud Goldstein doesn't keep taking the monies, maybe poor pub owners could invest in something like that...
>>71134910
You're free to do what you want, and I'm free to think less of you for it, friend :¬)
>>71132254
Smoking is retarded. I wouldn't ban it but increase taxes on smokers by a lot. Sucks for pub culture but I'm sure we can figure out ways for people to smoke in private clubs or something.
It's been illegal in australia for years now. Some states they have included outdoor cafes and the last city i lived in, you had to smoke 20m away from the pub or club. Freddo frogs here suck now. They made them smaller and stoped using the chocolate they had and used normal block chocolate.
>>71134711
>tfw you were the rich kid at school
>you bribed the kids with your haribos so they let you hangout with them
>>71134938
These are sad times friend
pic related
>>71134971
Fair enough
>>71135075
kek'd
>>71135004
Well in our country, the tax is so high that it alone is greater than the sum of the product.
The tax is so high that smokers pay-in greater than they take-out in our NHS. We smokers keep everyone else healthy.
I can tell you're underage for this site.
>>71134559
Liverpool is terrible for pubs, the Pilgrim near the city center is the only semi-decent one, even if it is populated by hipster nu-males
>>71135004
Using the internet is retarded. I wouldn't ban it but increase taxes on ISPs by a lot. Sucks for 4chan culture but I'm sure we can figure out ways for people to shitpost in refugee camps or something.
Fuck off, nobody want to smell like the tobacco jew because some cunt can't lift his ass to smoke his assault fag outside.
>>71132254
Second hand smoke is a myth
>>71135004
Taxation is retarded. I wouldn't ban it but increase taxes on taxers by a lot. Sucks for bank culture but I'm sure we can figure out ways for people to tax in private economies or something.
I feel like if the owner wants it, they can get a license to allow smoking. Just require them to have a good ventilation system.
Smoking inside is generally illegal here, except for in casinos.
>>71135256
Never been the Pilgrim, i'll give it a go next time im out
Smoking is allowed in bars and restaurants here
>>71135481
Kek casinos get all the tax breaks since they generate so much revenue.
I always pop into the casino here in Aberdeen because they serve breakfast at 5am.
>>71135300
>Frenchman is anti-smoker
I wonder if you're native.
>>71135255
>We smokers keep everyone else healthy
>>71135634
Gambling is the third highest tax revenue raiser here, it's insane. Our government sucks the cock of the bloke who owns the only casino in the state, as well as a heap of media shit.
>>71135255
How much is a pack of Marlboro? 6 euros for a pack of 20 here.
>>71135299
Chupa meu
just make smoking and non smoking pubs and let the people decide ? then watch all the non smoking pubs close down
>>71132254
Why not put ventilation? We did it.
>>71135805
Taxation is theft Otário, you are effectively advocating for theft on the use of a commodity you don't care about so you create a precedent for anyone to advocate for theft about anything else. Burro.
>>71135730
And you're welcome.
>>71135805
£9.50 or just under 12 Euros.
>>71136580
I'm a smoker myself paneleiro.
>>71136752
Irrelevant to the point.
>>71134713
>I don't smoke and I don't like being in rooms filled with smoke.
>That said, I'm not a fucking child who expects to world to acquiesce to my whims. It's their business and their property, they should be able to do what they like with it.
Thanks for being an adult.
>>71132254
Every part of your post, OP, is bullshit except the last sentence.
I hated going in pubs and coming back smelling of smoke, and being 40 years old and an ex smoker, I've been in more than my fair share.
But the landlord should choose. It has contributed to the death of the pub as we know it, and now I have to contend with gastro-pubs & micro breweries.
Ffs
But god, even as a smoker I hated the stale smoke smell from pubs as they were.
Landlord choice, definitely!
>>71132254
dam right!
>>71133749
banned smoking IN THE FUCKING STREEET?
how do they justify that?
also, what is their rationale for having the power to do that?
>>71134359
there are far more accidents that don't involve alcohol than do.
so I always get tanked before going for a drive these days
>>71134734
maybe a combination, but I certainly stopped going to the pub except for the odd time, when they banned smoking
>>71134938
>amie Oliver the fat fuck a big hardon
yeah, I hate that wanker, fucking fart sniffer
>>71134971
oh nooo, you will think less of me, what a complete disaster
>>71135422
I'll allow it
>>71137809
flawless logic
>>71132254
>because its part of our culture
you're damn right, I don't smoke but saddened by the fact they had to ban smoking in pubs, it took all the atmosphere out of them, I hate the smell of smoke but when I walk into a pub I expect the smell of lager and smoke in the air as people chat and play pool or darts, pubs aren't pubs anymore, its just not the same.
As a non-smoker I have the choice not to go in that pub, I could head to a wine bar or some shit, but I want the full pub atmosphere.
let the pubs decide, if pubgoers cared so much about smokers then they can open a 'no smokers' pub for big profits
>>71137718
because it's fucking disgusting for everone else who has to put up with it.
$33.50 for a pack of 30 here :')))) what is this smoking you are talking about :')))
>>71138944
t. a nu-male whinge
>>71132254
Banning smoking in pubs was only meant to destroy 'pub culture'. That was the entire point.
Y'all need to get a clue
>>71139273
no, just someone who doesn't want to go to the pub and come home smelling like a pikey benefits sponge
>>71132254
>it'd increase customers in pubs
No, it wouldn't. Why would you think that?
>>71138944
>>71139492
in the street, you abo tier nigger
I hate coming back from a bar smelling like cigarette smoke. Go outside if you really want to do it.
>>71138944
>Walking down the street, minding my own business
>See a guy smoking
>Have a fit
>>71134023
>>71134359
>>71134734
>Go to the pub
>Can't drive there because one drink puts you over the limit
>Can't have more than a couple because the prices are fucking insane because they keep taxing alcohol and the running costs are too much for pubs
>Can't have a cigarette because daddy gubbament won't let pub owners set the rules of their own pubs
>Every pub is the same because they're all being bought by Wetherspoons because it's the only way to not go bust and have to close
>>71132254
Pubs should be able to set the rules.
Either have smoking or non-smoking sections, smoking or non-smoking pubs. There's literally no reason to do it other than "Bad goy smoking is bad for you so we're going to directly legislate your leisure habits because you have state controlled healthcare".
Make the establishment provide the staff with fucking gas masks and rename it to "Planecrasher's Arms" so they don't have to breathe it on the job if you have to, nobody wants to leave their drink inside and stand in the cold and rain like a fucking putz to have a cigarette which should be enjoyable and relaxing.
