Anyone care to explain this? Why are we not shooting by now?
there's a huge difference in the services which government provides you fucking kike
cucked
taxation without representation
look it up
>>71127128
>>71127134
I think it goes without saying...But you guys really dont have much to say about this.
>>71127073
You're welcome to rejoin the club mate
>>71127128
>It's okay because the government is forcing you to accept shitty services you don't want
>>71127128
Would rather pay 3% tax for nothing than pay 35% tax and most of it goes to lazy shits and dindus for dem programz.
>>71127128
umm insurance existed in 1776 england, the fire brigade was not a government, but a private one.
All of anything the government offers you can be outsourced. Even homeless need to rely on generosity of others just not to die senpai
Now again, the queen, why you licking her anal ring m8?
>>71127073
>mfw the Anglo empire could've been great
>>71127073
>Anyone care to explain this?
You dun goofed
>Why are we not shooting by now?
Distracted by jewish tricks
Because the American revolution was perpetrated by a union of Oligarchs and Jew. The Oligarchs and Jews support the American State, so there will be no revolution.
>>71127234
So you don't enjoy your property rights then?
>>71127154
>Believing the people of the US have representation today
>>71127073
Now they take the tax directly from your paycheck. If you had to pay a flat ammount each month you bet they would be riots.
>>71127154
>taxation without representation
top kek Cruz is getting delegates for states with votes even being held now, their "representation" is one of two people decided by the Corpratocracy
>>71127073
Because neoliberals control the world.
>>71127073
Honestly King George & Parliament fucked it up real bad.
Any sane government would've accepted demands for representation, we got way too big for our boots.
American Revolutionaries also lost their minds when they started rejecting offers of representation during the war.
Benedict Arnold realised all this shit, he's the only revolutionary figure I admire.
>America and Britain could've been united in a great union
>We could control Earth by now
>We could've turned on the French and taken over during the revolution
>The whole world could be speaking English by now
The colonies had a whole list of grievances against the crown that are specifically protected against here in the U.S. by our constitution, which is the rule of the law. The tax issue itself in those days was more about "taxation without representation," which means the colonies were being taxed but they had no representation in Parliament. Today, Americans are represented at all levels of government.
It's a shitty meme.
>Work 64 hours making 10 an hour
>Receive my check in the mail for 480 bucks
This is thievery.
>>71127154
Fucking disgusting outie.
>>71127073
Taxes that stay in the country, to be re-injected into the economy isn't that bad.
That said, Americans had no right to demand independence over taxes.
>>71127572
>the rule of the law
wow I fucked that up bad.
I mean the law of the land.
There is a disturbing lack of American Flags in this thread......
>>71127154
This
>>71127572
>so which of the two oligarchs decided by backhanded corporate deals are you going to choose for president my Mexican friend?
>>71127636
but a VAST majority of that tax money is leaving the country..10 million a day alone goes to Israel for NOTHING in return...
>>71127558
>Any sane government would've accepted demands for representation
Why?
They were just employees of off-shore companies (the colonies).
Why should foreigners get representation in your government, just for being employed by one of your companies?
Taxes don't mean anything if you can't force them out. The Brits didn't have the force / power but the US government does.
>be amerilard
>be still c.u.c.k'd by the british
The UK is not as big as the USA. The UK has no such loads of money as the USA has.
>>71127073
The issue wasn't the taxation, it was the fact that taxes were levied without the right of representation granted to English citizens. GB disagreed that the colonists were actually citizens. Now, we willingly fuck ourselves. Our issue now isn't some corrupt foreign threat, but our own retardation. That's the difference.
>>71127750
That is indeed something to get angry about.
......but it's not "the vast majority" it's in fact only a tiny fraction.
>>71127217
Nigga, he's complaining about 35% taxes. You pay like 80% if you add it all up.
Then again so is he. But still not as much.
>>71127775
They were accepting British Services, British protection, goods from the other colonies and were by all intents and purposes citizens of Britain, if you're going to tax them then there needs to be a figure to argue in their favour.
>>71127128
They have nothing that we take for granted, and they're paying massively more.
>>71127821
Most of the english had no representation.
>>71127073
Probably has something to do with the first example being a tax no one voted on that left the country while the second is a tax that was voted on and stays inside the country
dipshit
>>71127821
The people on Puerto Rico aren't complaining.
>>71127821
Lol, I used one of the pics in the thing for this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ye1FN3JTU I chose it cuz it had the white guy in it.DIVERSITY!
>>71127865
Is it was so marvellous for them, why they voted out?
>>71127378
This
>>71127865
Most of them didn't even speak English.
>>71127775
they were Englishmen you twat
>>71127073
Those taxes didnt go to us
Our taxes do
Fuck off bong
>>71127154
This
>>71127942
They're lazy spics who mostly live on welfare, so 'taxes' are hardly a concern for them. Also, the only taxes that exist on the island are levied by their on elected local government. The US federal gov't doesn't set their tax rates.
>>71127234
He said on imageboard, using internet.
>>71127313
Fuck, I got nothing!
>>71127073
Cause drink you fluoride and calming anti-depressive water!
And eat you cancer foods.
>>71128035
Do they? Then how come we send more in foreign aid (10 million a day for example to Israel) Than we spend in our country for our own citizens..Goes to us...?Get bent fucker.
>>71127321
At least there is no scenario in which I can imagine us going to war. Our common language helps us understand eachother.
>>71127154
God damn it Australia that 'woman' is ugly as fuck we aught to glass you sick fuckers!
>>71128108
I dont..I dont even watch TV. The problem is MOST burgers do.
>>71128035
N..n...no they don't tho. Our taxes go to foreign gubmints, niggers, and illegal immigrants. Its like being forced at gunpoint to buy a brand new 70 inch 4k curved smart TV and that TV being given to someone else.
>>71128034
There were more Germans than English.
>>71127073
Our flag didn't have Ireland in it in 1776, just an autistic observation
>>71127128
Cuck
>>71127321
You fucked it up, you got what was coming. But don't feel bad, we're doing the exact same thing, no one every learns from history it seems.
>>71127352
I think he's talking about paying for the handicapped, unemployables, work refusers, illigals, nigger jails and a bunch of other shit like the high end politicians giving their friends overpriced contracts for questionable projects.
>>71128011
Rhetoric.
>Rule yourself! It's so good!
>noone will tell me what to do!
>FREEDOM!
I don't like thinking about this, because an entire nation's getting fucked over really badly, and they don't know any better. They're content even.
>>71128035
>Those taxes didnt go to us
>Our taxes do
They're taken from you, and you don't get services from the state of an equivalent value.
It's scattered to the wind, and fed to the massive bureaucracy and military of your country, and fuck knows where else besides.
>>71128090
American internet is privatized.
That's why it's so slow and expensive.
>>71128011
Because Taxes. So the natural move was to fucking lower taxes or provide representation, but parliament was fucking retarded and tried to avoid taking action. They needed reparations from the 7 years war and were expanding too fast.
>>71127321
Quite honestly, it wouldn't really have been great
Half the reason the colonists were also immensely pissed off was the Proclamation Line which made the colonies unable to expand past the Appalachians. Now the British couldve eventually gone back on this deal, or more likely they would not have. A vast majority of the reason America became great, in terms of setting up the potential for greatness, was the Louisiana Purchase and Mexico's independence, both of which likely would never happen unless there was an independent America.
The American Revolution, though not as influential on the world scape as us Americans would like to say, was influential for two things: It created an independent on the American continent that wasn't bound by any native treaties and was as expansionist as humanly possible, and that it greatly influenced other American colonies to try and achieve independence.
American independence was the beginning of the end of colonialism on the continental American continents
But we still love you Britbros
>>71128316
Isn't it because they have two really large providers, who effectively hold a monopoly?
Americans pay outrageous sums for the same service.
>>71128316
no, the reason American Internet is so shitty , is that our infrastructure is so fucking old, we are still using cables and connections we had back in the 60s for internet.
>>71128397
No, their backbone is also utter shit.
In normal countries the internet backbone is controlled by the government and/or non-profit organizations.
>>71127716
I'm not Mexican. I'm a white liberal. My first choice for POTUS was Elizabeth Warren, but she's out so it's Bernie Sanders. Nonetheless, I am a Democrat. If Hillary wins the nomination, then she can count on my vote in the general election.
>>71128460
Because upgrading it is down to private companies, rather than the government.
>>71128337
To be honest, I don't think even representation would have worked. You're talking about months to cross the Atlantic just to deliver a message - not at all a viable option for polling.
If it were to happen a century later in the age of the telegraph, Parliament would have probably been more than receptive to the demand for representation.
As it stood, self-governance was realistically the only viable solution. I'm hoping we don't all make the same mistake when we start colonizing other planets that are months/years away.
>>71128647
And even if it were up to the govt do you think it would get improved any quicker? I think not.
>>71128590
>Elizabeth Warren, but she's out so it's Bernie Sanders. Nonetheless, I am a Democrat. If Hillary wins the nomination, then she can count on my vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETouPu6hDLU
>>71128743
Yeah, you guys should've self governed and I think Tax free. That said, keeping you as members of the British Empire under foundations of free trade, free movement between states and a shared currency as well as a guaranteed alliance would've worked.
>>71127073
Incrementalism
>everyone mentioning taxation and representation
>no one mentions the proclamation line
M80s, its like you guys dont realize how insanely bad the colonies wanted land. There were maps of how the colonies wanted to expand, and it included shit like North Carolina expanding all the way to California.
Being told 'No you cant go past the Appalachians even though we own the Ohio River Valley; fuck you' did not make the colonists happy at all
>>71127073
Massive overwhelming police state of jackbooted thugs now
>>71127313
most goes into war, service contracts, subsidies, payoffs and black budget programs
>yfw you realize the american revolution was just one big tax evasion
>>71128590
ah so it's only the career criminal oligarch that's spent her entire life just escaping jail time for her Mafioso style activities
>such representation
>>71127073
The assumption is that Americans then are the same as Americans now. Americans then were glorious Britons but are now Irish
>>71129526
Congratulations, you just played yourself
>>71127128
Like giving money to niggers, giving social security money to the richest age demographic, spying on us, stupid and endless wars, pork barrel roads...
>>71127073
>pay a foreign government for nothing
vs
>pay your government to for infrastructure and social welfare
are you retarded
>>71127558
The whole world is speaking english
>>71129672
the taxes in the UK are higher than they are in the US right now, so no, the united states didn't.
>>71127073
>Why are we not shooting by now?
Because you're ok with current order. You afraid to lose everything, you afraid to leave your comfort zone. That's why you always be cucked.
Just severeal burgers and cola, vidya games and you're sold, no matter what happens with your Motherland.
>>71127154
>Dear colonialists, we've been fighting wars on your behalf and paying to repair damage done to the colonies. We ask that you accept some fiscal responsibility to help us in this endeavour.
>THEY SAID WHUT!? NO LIMEY BASTURD'S GUNNA BEG FUR A HANDOUT! USA! USA! USA!
>>71128380
>Beginning of the end of colonialism on continental America
>What's Canada
>>71129074
It would definitely work, no doubt, but in actuality it would've never been able to happen
By the end of the war, the average revolutionary wholeheartedly wanted nothing to do with Britain. And after the revolution, relations between the two were awful for a long period of time.
Relations between Britain and the USA only really ever became positive with each other around 1890 or the early 1900's
>>71129770
>pay a foreign govt for nothing
What about the war they just fought against the French and natives the colonists were begging for, what about the Navy that protected colonist trade ships the French and Spanish pirates?
>>71127073
Currently over 60% of all the money I make goes to the government. It's outrageous.
>>71130204
What about it, are you saying the English got nothing out of it?
>>71128316
It's slow and expensive because local governments control it; they jack up all of the expenses for right of way, renting space on utility poles, etc., and having other rules like demanding donation of equipment and universal coverage.
In places like Kansas City, the city government got out of the way and let Google set up a much better infrastructure.
>>71127073
You will have to start breeding families of 10 and redpilling everyone around you if you want to turn things, time is running out.
>>71129963
Canada is an exception to rule. Almost every other continental holding in the Americas was independent within the next forty years of America achieving independence.
>>71129770
>pay a foreign government for protecting you
versus
>paying for retarded wars and free shit to nigs
>>71127073
Because it will go beyond medieval in how horrific it gets when we finally do. I hope you know how to grow your own food.
And the colonists had been grumbling for quite a number of years prior to the shot heard around the world.
>>71127321
>>71128275
>>71130393
You must admit though, in Denmark they have the best internet outside of Korea, and the government was behind the development.
>>71127128
1700-1775
Keeping us from being killed by Indians was a pretty fucking big service.
>>71130970
*Shrug* I don't know that much about the Danish internet infrastructure.
I do think that government colluding with business can be as bad, if not worse, than government alone. Rent-seeking is not limited to the public sphere.
But I think that what Google did in some cities shows how effective private infrastructure can be without government imposing barriers to entry, and that it is not entirely the fault of private enterprise.
>>71129480
Except 70% does go to entitlements
![43d082a380[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ckudAcJ.png "43d082a380[1].png")
>>71129832
hmm
>>71127352
??? Property rights, roads, basic infrastructure was all in place in the USA before income tax was commonplace.
>our elected representatives set the tax rates
>tax revenue goes to Americans, instead of making a bunch of inbred English aristocrats richer
>>71127073
I'm not very interested in going back to a 1776 military and government. We get a shitload of value for our tax dollars.
Also, a shitload of people (read: corporations and billionaires) don't pay anywhere near their fair 35% share.
That needs to get fixed.
Once that is collected proper, we can pay down our other expenses & debt and then reduce taxes for everyone.
Also, your premise is simplistic and wrong. The taxes were only one fairly minor part of the equation for claiming independence. Grow up and come back after you've passed high school history.
>>71131812
we have a progressive tax rate. what income bracket is that?
>>71132261
Corporate tax
>>71127073
Very easy. In XVIIIth century american colonists were proud that we wuz fighting Indians and French. So they thought they're on par with Britain. This is where the buttblast came from
>>71127128
I have health insurance and don't want to go to college.
Fuck off.
>>71127073
everything got more tech refined therefore expansive. Buying that 2 million medical machinery isnt the same as seeing the toolless surgeon.
