Or does it?
>>71109207
wiener schnitzel
>>71109380
What does Austria have to do with the Brexit?
me and everyone i know are all voting IN, because we are sane humans. cant wait for all the brexitfag tears
>>71109481
Good goy
>if we vote out we all end up working 6 day weeks with no holidays for our overlords
>if we vote in sandniggers blow us up.
well shit
>>71111366
Nothing wrong with working hard for a living. Dubs also checked.
ETERNAL ANGLOS WILL VOTE OUT AND THEN TRY AND GENOCIDE US ARYANS
DON'T LET THEM!
>>71109207
What do you mean, kraut?
>>71109481
>willingly getting cucked by the EU
You sound more like a mudslime who wants us to stay in so you can bring in more of your ISIS pals.
>>71111451
>working hard = working long hours
There's a difference between doing a good job and becoming a glorified slave, mate.
>>71111366
Being blown up by sandniggers is guranteed in the EU, but letting kike businessman fuck is over isn't. That can be fought against outside of the fourth German reich.
FUCKING LEAVE, PLEASE
YOU WILL LEAD THE WAY FOR US TO LEAVE
EUROPE IS A SINKING SHIP.
ABANDON!
>>71109207
>Or does it?
I'm voting to leave, but I doubt we'll leave. Not least because the EU has shown it's self to be a little tyrannical when referenda don't go the way they were wanting.
You goys better vote for brexit like we're voting for Trump.
>>71109481
Kill yourself
Just like with Scotland, they'll find a way to keep them in, by hook or by crook (or by kike).
Looking at the pics of the niggers arriving by then tens of thousands in Sicily today- one thing for sure, Ghaddafi was yelling the truth and Cameron, Sarkozy, Cinton and Obama should be tried and hanged.
>>71110346
>Otago
fucking maori
>>71109207
if you don't vote out, you are a cuck
t. British expat
>wanting to leave
The only thing stopping our country becoming an entire slave state to big business like America are the checks and balances put in place by the EU. Our government would never protect us in the same kind of way. There are lots of things wrong with the EU but the alternatives are far worse.
>>71113588
you're a complete idiot
>>71113625
Good argument.
>>71109481
bait
>>71113645
You have the City of London Corproration. You know, that place where the Icelandic bankers fled to in order to get away with crime while Iceland just trundled along as always.
There is literally no danger to leaving.
>>71109481
I would say that roughly 3/4 of all the people I've asked in casual conversation have suggested they will vote out.
I and my family will vote out also.
This is about the long term sovereignty of this nation, where it makes its own laws and stands on its own two feet. They need us more than we need them - and we will remain trade partners with the EU. But autonomy is the future. Do not cower to the fear of the unknown - the future will be brighter without the sinking ship that is the EU.
>>71111366
I already do those things, so I think Vote Leave is common sense.
>>71113588
>EU
>protecting anything.
Kek, why are you ignoring TTIP?
You can vote out neoliberal UK governments.
You can't vote out the European Comission.
>>71109481
Please suicide pact with your "friends"
>>71109481
Scotcuck detected.
>>71109481
I'm voting out because it'll fuck Britain.
We should be punished for failing to compensate victims of the British Empire, not returning the Queen's stolen diamonds and the Elgin Marbles.
>>71113789
>you can vote out neoliberal UK governments
I tried in the past before but the bulk of the people in this nation who care to vote seem to care to vote them in. Say goodbye to the NHS fellas
Probably voting out, either option has lots of downsides but more immigrant control and protection of financial services are appealing.
I'm not pretending to be an expert and I understand there's reasons to stay in too.
>>71113853
You get the government you deserve. If most people want a neoliberal government, then you just have to accept that.
What I will not accept, however, is having one imposed on us without our consent.
myself and my parents are voting out, as well as my mates.
the propaganda they released will most likely scare people into voting to remain.
>>71109481
Good lad
http://wesaystay.uk/
What are the actual arguments for staying? I haven't heard any that aren't just speculation.
VOTE BREXIT VOTE BORIS FOR PM GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
>No survivors
>>71113872
There is not a single reason to stay in.
Remember we will only leave if people actually vote.
It's not enough to say you'll vote out, you actually have to go and do it.
Make sure you families, friends and others who are voting to leave do so. Marshall them into the polling booth. Take the day off work or school. This is far too important.
>>71113882
How is having a country of thick voters something he deserves?
>>71114015
It's all speculation, nobody knows how leaving will actually affect anything. You can guess but there's no being sure of what will actually happen.
>>71114065
Just updated my voter info solely for this purpose
>>71113751
Our government would sign TTIP or something exactly the same anyway, if you don't believe that you're delusional. The EU has employment rights for things like paid leave enshrined in its values that will never be taken away.
My job right now is fine and I'd probably be about as comfortable here as I would be in the US, but who knows if I'll lose it in the future. I don't want (or want for my children and countrymen) to be forced into a culture driven by the bottom line where wage theft and an incredible pressure to take zero holiday all year are commonplace. The government is already taking away employment rights at an alarming rate in all the ways it isn't constricted by EU law, that does not bode well for a system in which they can do whatever they want.
>>71114068
"You" as in the nation. He himself is going to have to accept that this is a nation of 60 million people, there are more voices than his.
>>71114015
well in their leaflet they are saying how people will have to spend hundreds more pounds on cost of living in general so that will scare the average voter
>>71113135
THIS
>>71114070
You can only guess what's going to happen anyway. Might as well just leave.
Historically, it's extremely British to reneg on a contract first to fuck the continent over.
>>71109481
I know this is bait, but leftists actually use the morality argument more than conservatives.
>Ah, yes, you see, it is 2016 and we are sane humans.
Perhaps the most willfully ignorant statements that have ever been spoken are being said by these kinds of people today.
>>71114120
>The government is already taking away employment rights at an alarming rate
Example?
>>71109207
I'm still not sure if they will allow it.
>>71114170
>You can only guess what's going to happen anyway. Might as well just leave.
I could make exactly the same argument but change it to "might as well just stay," especially given the fact that what we have now is a known quantity.
>>71114120
>The government is already taking away employment rights at an alarming rate
Example? Source?
>>71114120
Nah, fuck TTIP. You've never needed such a thing to dominate trade before.
>>71114070
but you can guess what happens if you stay. And it's not a good scenario
>>71114132
I think this will be a short term effect, if it happens at all.
>>71114222
What known quantity is that? Certain death?
>>71114314
So should I place $300 on bongs leaving?
>>71111366
>If we vote out we all end up actually having to actually put effort into our jobs
What's it like living such a hard life, senpai?
>>71109207
out
alot of the "cons" for leaving and "pros" for staying are just bs propergander
"being in the eu makes hundreds of jobs!!
meanwhile thousands are being made unemployed beacuse they buy imports rather than made here
but the goverment never mention that beacuse "we are all in it together"
>>71109207
I was all for leaving but the more I think about it, the more I feel like I should vote to stay on the day of the referendum.
>>71114015
I'm an outer, but I see the other side:
Economic stability (in the short term)
Workers rights - virtually all of them were either pre-EU Labour, or EU. I know it's caricature, but conservatives generally do not give a fuck about this.
During the scramble of what the now freed up billions, there is no guarantee that the current governments will maintain funding for things like science (the EU is very, very generous with this), farming and deprived areas around the country like the northeast that went decades with tory neglect, and yet easily got EU funding to build bridges and whatnot.
Britain did more than any other European nation to push TTIP into the EU - so we'll be getting it either way. Boris is a known TTIP fan and sees nothing wrong with it.
Most of these can be somewhat resolved if the public is brave enough to push the case. I suspect they won't be
>>71114199
>>71114224
Not regulating zero hours contracts and implementing a 'living wage' which is lower than minimum wage was before compared to the cost of living, especially when combined with the fact that nobody in low paid work has any job security anymore partly due to zero hours contracts and partly due to uncontrolled immigration. They may not actually change anything by law but the culture underneath employment is changing and they're very happy to let big business take advantage of those who have no choice.
>>71114250
There are plenty of scenarios I can imagine for us out that are much worse to be honest.
>>71114300
i know, i doubt it will happen though. but people will be scared and chuck away life changing opportunities just over a couple hundred quid, sadly.
Wish Scotcucks would've voted out so this would be a bygone conclusion
>>71114536
Nah, they did the right thing and stuck in. They wouldn't have been able to make it alone.
>>71114428
Why? We literally only stand to gain from leaving.
>>71114563
Exactly. Fuck those socialist cunts.
>>71114563
Good, fuck the red cunts
>>71114563
whats wrong with that?
>>71114565
The best imaginable scenario after leaving is far better than what we have now. The worst possible scenario is far, far worse. If you're hoping that if we leave the government won't find a loophole to keep all the practices it likes about the EU like a flood of uncontrolled immigration for cheap labour. anyway you're delusional. Maybe if we voted in UKIP that wouldn't be the case, but if we vote in Labour or the Tories they'll find ways to keep it exactly the same.
>>71114648
Wrong with what?
>>71114565
EU will have to send humanitarian aid to your cuck island once you leave. Your currency will be worth than a zimbabwean shilling and there will be hoards of malnourished eternal anglos roaming the arid landscape looking for something to eat.
>>71114455
0 hours contracts are better than no job, in my opinion. And for most people they generally receive decent hours out of them. The whole "muh zero hours" was a bit of a labour campaign smear which has stuck for some reason. As for workers rights, fuck workers rights.
>>71114683
Do not give in to fear, my friend. You have to keep a stiff upper lip, and don't let Gerry get you down, what what. Look Charlie right in the eye.
>>71114455
With you on the living wage though, can't wait until Boris eliminates minimum wage when he's PM
>>71109207
God, i hope so
>>71113384
"How about those English, eh Scotsman? You clearly voted to leave the UK but they kept you in anway!"
Witness the eternal Yank, spreading division wherever it goes.
>>71109481
You should be fucking gassed
>>71114858
Are you excited to rejoin the Union after Europe collapses?
>>71114536
>England narrowly votes for brexit
>Scotland overwhelmingly votes to remain
>Scotland tips balance against brexit
The butthurt would be legendary
>>71115058
I'd prefer to be ruled by Britain than by Germany.
>>71115058
Would literally never happen.
Being from Dublin, this idea is so far from plausible it is laughable. I think most people would rather another potato famine than that.
>>71115106
What a cuck.
>>71115118
Well, it is the thinking mans fetish
>>71114714
>0 hours contracts are better than no job, in my opinion.
Of course, getting shot in the foot is better than getting shot in the head too. How about we have neither?
>And for most people they generally receive decent hours out of them
They frequently give enough to live on, but only just, and less than you'd be getting elsewhere. They're mostly fine for people who are single or have no children. But once you have somebody to take care of, the lack of a regular pattern can make your life unlivable, with no ability to plan ways to care for your children or other dependents like sick parents properly.
>As for workers rights, fuck workers rights.
Literally what? So maybe you might never have to work at one of these jobs, maybe your life is so in order that you're already in a decent job and if you ever lose it you'll be able to get another fantastic job straight away, but there must be people who you care about for who that isn't the case. Even very smart people can be dragged into these kinds of jobs, and it can ruin their lives for years at a time.
>>71109481
>>71113979
>Literally tying Britain to the biggest cultural disaster in Europe since the 1930s
>And what are their reasons for staying in?
>"Muh security"
>[Brussels bombing, Paris shooting, Cologne raping intensifies]
>"Muh economy"
>Relying on a market held up by countries that are legislating their own destabilisation
If you aren't worried about the future of the EU then you might not be sane at all
>>71115115
Just wait until you're burning your monopoly money for fuel, the Queens head will be to appealing for you to resist.
>>71114455
>partly due to uncontrolled immigration
Which we can't get under control from within the EU.
>>71114791
Right mate.
>>71115207
"muh economy" and "muh security" is the reason the conservatives got elected over Labour. How can you dismiss that so easily?
>>71115254
See >>71114683
You're delusional if you don't think either party will find a way to make sure that happens outside of the EU, it just provides them with plausible deniability. It will still happen outside the EU, just with all the employment protections it provides eroded.
>>71115345
The only reason they're even semi-credible on either of those issues (at least for me) is because a lot of them don't like the EU and can sometimes be relied upon to British interests first. It's more because of Labour's awful record and terrible election campaign. The Tories were the lesser of two evils.
>>71115199
Here we go. You clearly see some sort of utopia, where everyone has a sweet job that they love, and they pick their own hours and everyone is happy.
Unemployment was low, the Conservatives put these measures in order to boost employment numbers. It worked and people are better off. They weren't millionaires over night but they had something. Stop dreaming.
And for the record, I work a shit job. It's worse than a 0 hours contract, because I have no contract. But now they've given me more hours than some of the other people who have been working there for 5 years or more. Because I'm not a fucking backsliding bastard, and employers notice it.
Anyone who isn't prepared to work hard to move up the ladder should get the fuck off the ladder so the rest of us can progress.
>>71115372
The appetite for uncontrolled mass-immigration is drying up. Political parties would be wise to reflect that in their manifestos. There are more than two parties too although I appreciate there are no serious contenders to the big two, at least not without electoral reform.
>>71115345
>>71115345
First off, not everyone here is glad that Conservatives got elected, but could call them the lesser evil over Labour
And because as I posted, EU Security and EU Economy means having two capitals shot up or bombed and a mass sex attack in a major city within a year and pinning your hopes on an economy of a country that has a leader who hates it.
We're not going to leave. People will usually stick with the devil they know and there simply aren't enough out voters to overcome that.
This is basically our last chance and we'll blow it.
>>71115708
You need a better case of long-term thinking. Do I seriously expect it to work this time? Possible, but not probable. But you can't give up on one battle when you're in the process of winning the war.
DO NOT VOTE FOR BREXIT
IT'S A TRAP
>>71115708
There's always hope. Outers are more likely to vote and the polls look OK. Just make sure you and all your mates get out and vote. I'm taking the day off work too so I can watch the fun.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/15/poll-british-public-knows-brexit-is-safer-for-nhs-counter-terrorism-and-immigration/
>>71109418
Rekt
>>71115834
Explain your bold glaims pekka :DDD:D
>>71115942
He doesn't have to. He's not part of the union.
>>71111514
Get out, Scotfag.
>>71115533
Jesus I don't even know where to begin with this. The fact that you've been brainwashed into not only being ok with the artificial dilution of wages to boost unemployment figures but are actually proud of the fact that you're being exploited (though less extremely than those on zero hours contracts, and congrats for not actually answering any of my points on why they're bad and responding with an ideological rant instead) into working for jack shit so some executive can line his pockets is beyond belief.
Won't be answering anything else ITT, I genuinely want Brexit to be a good idea and came here to be convinced I'm wrong that staying in is for the best but nobody has been able to do so and your comment is the low point desu. Shame.
>>71109207
It's not going to happen. The forces against it are too great. They control so much of the media and political engine that any democratic solution is already lost.
The only way any of our issues will be fixed is through violent action.
Let's see how many leftist cucks are prepared to put their lives on the line go keep Britain in the EU.
>>71115942
No :DDD:DDD
>>71116045
Thanks for your contribution to the thread
>>71109481
You daft cunt. Do you want to be ruled by Eurabia forever?
>>71109207
The UK is populated with middle aged, middle class people and every mainstream voice is saying to vote against brexit.
They won't do it no matter what brit flags say here.
>>71116003
I'm not the person you were replying to but one of the arguments for zero hour contracts is the flexibility they offer to employers and employees. They're good for students and the like. Don't get me wrong - I have a mortgage to pay so I wouldn't want to work one myself.
On your earlier point about holiday allowances I get 25 days a year at work and normally end up selling most of it back.
>>71116199
Fuck off potato nigger
>>71116003
What's the alternative? You haven't exactly put up many great points yourself. Calling me brainwashed is no more an objective criticism than me telling you to stop sucking jeremy corbyn's cock.
And if we're not fundamentally discussing ideologies then I don't know what we are discussing.
>>71116323
We will have a good laugh when the votes are in.
>>71116003
It was the backsliding thing, wasn't it? Leftys always get real butthurt over that.
>>71109207
I wanna be in a European Superpower.
Nuke China, buttrape Russia, send a man to the moon just to knock down America's flag
>>71116723
>I wanna be in a European Superpower.
That would be lovely. Unfortunately, by 2030, there probably won't be much Europe left.
>>71116723
Too late for that chum. I just want self-determination.
>>71116723
lol, supercucks. We been toppin y'all since WW2
>>71109207
really hope they vote in and then got bombed a couple weeks later. Would be top jej
>>71120642
Oy vey. Don't you know British Intelligence already predicts there with be a rash of things blowing up just in time for the brexit?
>>71119224
>tfw you realise WWII was instigated by US Jews to destabilise US superpowers and establish American Hegemony
The Eternal Burger is behind it all
>>71120967
If we wanted American Hegemony, we would have implemented it, as we did for instance during the Jew American Century project. It was you fags that got us roped into the UN after we refused to sign on to the League of Nations, always wanting your little Dominion back.
>>71109207
I hope you retards in the UK registered to vote, the cutoff is Monday, I think.
>>71121244
that's for the local elections, loads of time to register for the exit vote
>>71121132
>>71120967
This was meant to say EU superpowers. Woops
>>71121722
No worries mate. And if you need a better trade deal after telling the EU to fuck off, let us know.
>>71122006
Obama literally said he'd shut down trade if we left the EU.
I mean nobody believes for a second that's gonna happen but he said it anyway.
>>71122117
That's because he's a globalist shill trying to scare you back into line. Nobody fucking likes TTIP and TPP. But it will take somebody to come up with a better option in order to avoid them.
>>71122117
He'll be repealed and replace with something better in November anyway,
>>71109207
how can brexit be real if the shilling is real
FUCK ENGLAND IF THE UK LEAVES THE EU, BECAUSE YOU 'LL MAKE SCOTLAND MORE MUSLIM BY TAKING IN MORE MUSLIM MIGRANTS
FREEDOM FOR SCOTLAND
>>71123058
What?
>>71123058
ITT: Sven caught zika from getting raped in the ass by a muslim man.
>>71123411
FUCK OFF MEXICAN
HAVE FUN WITH 20% WHITE KIDS IN 2030
FREEDOM FOR TEXAS AND NEWENGLAND
>>71123383
He's referring to the drop in whites due to exodus of EU migrants and the ties to "commonwealth" aka Africa.
The reason why you're seeing non-europeans like Priti Patel or Trevor Phillips calling out migration, multiculturalism and shilling for 'british values' (i presume the same is happening in other European nations) is the same reason you see 'Ginger Jihadis'; the next stage in our ethnocide is beginning. (Pic very, very related).
We have to leave the EU but we must not stop there.
we'll stay in, not enough support for Brexit. The only problem the In campaign has is that old people always vote and they're inclined towards Brexit
>We should have our sovereignty dictated to us by unelected men in Brussels and a man in the White House
Every true Briton votes out
