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>Wahhh Bernie will raise taxes
Yes, but healthcare will be free to offset the tax increase, which will ultimately LOWER how much you spend. Instead of spending more money on the military, it will be put into the healthcare system and the education department. And you all complain about raising the minimum wage? It's impossible to live on the 7 dollar minimum wage in places like california or new york. Say what you want about Bernie and his memes, but you cannot debunk the actual statistics.
>>71103534
But my job pays for my healthcare anyway. Not that Bernie supporters would know anything about that.
>>71103742
So save them money too then
>>71103534
Yep. Well said. This place is for Zionists only so don't expect much headway
>>71103742
/thread
>>71103534
I'm not proud of it, but Im in a stump and on medicaid. My nearest Dr appointment is for July 10th. I told them i've been having complications and they couldn't give less of a shit.
I don't want to just blame the government for all my problems, but if healthcare wasn't a government monopoly I'd gladly pay for private insurance.
>>71103534
>It's impossible to live on the 7 dollar minimum wage in places like california or new york
So bankrupting rural areas with less money exchange is the answer to urbanism?
>>71103534
>he can do any of this without bipartisan support in congress
Top kek, m9.
Remember to sage reddit shill threads, family.
>>71103534
I spent very little on health care before Obama forced me to buy it.
>>71103534
Bernie Sanders not only doesn't want to deport illegal aliens, he wants to take care of them by giving them free healthcare and other benefits. That will only encourage more illegal immigration.
He also wants to bring more Muslims into the country, which will eventually put the Christians and Islam at war with each other.
>>71104091
And Trump wants no wall and guess who put the refugees here
>>71103534
Ah the good old spend money to save money meme.
>>71103534
>It's impossible to live on the 7 dollar minimum wage in places like california or new york.
So let those cities and states determine their own minimum wage, like Seattle did and California is phasing in.
San Francisco is very different from Shreveport bud.
>>71103742
Healthcare should not be something only a part of the population can afford. It is a basic human right. Imagine a guy that just got out of uni, found a job that pays enough to keep the lights on, where will he get the money to pay for his Healthcare?
>>71103534
>make 90k a year
>have to pay almost 50% income tax
>b-but healthcare is free
Nigga there ain't no private healthcare that would cost 45k a year
It's called Keynesian economics. All your trump supporters shout "open a textbook" when it's you that need to get educated.
>>71103534
> healthcare will be free
Fuck, OP confirmed mentally handicapped.
>taxes go up
>saving me money
And before you "but poor people wont pay AS much", it's still paying.
And the kicker is most bernie supporters DONT WANT TO PAY AT ALL!
Are you going to OP? Are you fine with more taxes?
>>71104187
Since when did Bernie want under 100K people to pay 50%?
>inb4 90% bullshit
>>71104182
>It is a basic human right
So the government can force people to go into the healthcare industry to insure that the people's rights aren't violated? Just like sewer and water sanitation?
>>71104182
He won't pay for healthcare. Problem solved. Humans have lived without doctors for a long time, they'll manage.
>>71103973
Liberal minds explode now.
>>71104182
>It is a basic human right.
Maybe in a negative sense, but it's not a positive right. Positive rights are no rights at all.
If a guy got a job out of uni he can afford health insurance or his job might offer it.
>>71104269
If I pay 3000 dollars combined taxes and healthcare, and under Bernie I will pay 2000 dollars taxes with free healthcare, then I support bernie.
>>71103534
Bernie: "No one should earn more than a million dollars a year"
Thanks Bernie, we now cannot compete in world markets you stupid fuck.
America would become Venezuela before it becomes Sweden you stupid fucking bernouts.
RACE DEMOGRAPHIC IS IMPORTANT
EGALITARIANISM IS COMPLETE SHIT.
WE
ARE
NOT
ALL
EQUAL
>increase spending on public services
>entire population of central America decamps and illegally enters the usa
>Bernie wont stop them cos that would be racist
>>71104187
Besides, not all of your taxes would be used on Healthcare... You need the military, education, basic infrastructure etc. Nobody will make you pay 50% of your 90K.
>>71104144
Or just abolish the minimum wage so that dumb faggots can negotiate a wage.
>>71103742
SHOTS FIRED!!!
Let us know when you're through sacrificing entire continents and our economies God damn Repubes. You spend more than anybody, now! To die sooner and have more dead babies
>>71104182
That's his problem?
Don't live above your means, and don't live from check to check.
Have some savings to fall back on for when something inevitably goes wrong.
>>71104317
Just like water sanitation, it's something that has to be in place. Why would you need to force anyone to enter medicine though? Plenty of people in medicine as it is..
>>71104281
Pay debts.
Fuck off with your forced altruism. Socialism is national version of the prisoner's dilemma. Only that shitskins never cooperate.
>>71103534
>Muh Education
We have too many college grads as it is dipshit. Underemployment rate for recent grads is over 40%. Barely half the kids that go to college graduate, and their 2nd most popular choice for a major is fucking psychology.
>Muh Healthcare
35% of the adult US population is OBESE, and shitty life styles are promoted in mass media to everyone. Even the goddamn kings of elites don't have enough shekels to pay for all the lypo, therapy, and sex changes that our degenerates want.
>minimum wage
pic related
you cannot debunk actual reality.
If people can't live on those minimums they need to get better jobs or leave.
>>71104326
>implying liberals care about rural areas
White privilege will prevent them from being poor. Bernie said so himself.
>>71104532
You can just shoot people instead
>>71104323
And you say that niggers are animals?
>>71104400
We already pay for all of that.
What do you know about economics.
Pay debts.
>>71104495
Its a right though. If not enough people are entering those fields to maintain these rights properly then the government can force citizens to fill those positions, elsewise it wouldn't be a human right.
>>71104566
>shoot your farmers and miners that disagree with you
Ask 20 million Chinese how that worked out.
>>71104585
Not an argument.
>>71104281
He wants to tax 'the rich', which could mean anybody making more than minimum wage.
And since socialist countries tend to foster huge inequalities in income and wealth, soon everyone will be taxed hard except those on welfare.
Socialism IS a slippery slope.
>>71104712
Oy veeeeey. Nothing happens without your permission. Until Boinee
>>71104650
>candidates have to align 100% with my viewpoints before I will vote for them.
>>71104335
You do realize we don't need a population full of uni graduates? We need a large amount of burger flippers, toilet cleaners, trash collectors, taxi drivers which are all essential to modern society but do not get paid as much as a lawyer, for example. This means they shouldn't be able to afford a huge house, which is a luxury, but they should still receive proper Healthcare, which is a necessity. Simply because they do the work nobody else wants to doesn't mean they should fucking die.
>>71104509
>35% of the adult US population is OBESE
I've heard the "counter" argument that England also has a lot of obesity.
But America is the only country I've ever seen where people so fat they have to be in scooter thingies is not uncommon to see.
> Barely half the kids that go to college graduate,
Here you have a lot of people constantly switching studies which costs a lot.
So the VVD gave us a system which is closer to what there is in the US.
Studens loans + subsidies.
The days of free studies is 100% over.
Though the Netherlands is not a cheap country to study, Belgium and Germany are both "cheaper" (for the students)
>>71103534
What if I don't want to pay into a system that pays out for fatasses and abortions?
>>71104367
What would you do with more than a million? Corporations and companies can compete and earn as much as they like, but such large amounts of money going to one person is insane.
>>71104400
But in germany that is exactly how much I pay, and some of it goes to lazy greek assholes like yourself.
>>71104799
Nobody should die but they do. too bad so sad.
>implying they're going to die if they can't get a doctor to look at their sprained ankle every two weeks.
How often are you in the hospital with life or death situations?
>>71104793
If you side with them or at all with them, nothing elee can even exist
>>71103534
Bernie cant push two thugs off his mic, let alone enact any of his humongous fiscal projects, which requires all sorts of skills and experience like Trump.
Listen kids, I can make promises too:
>There are homeless and people who have been renting for years. This is unacceptable, everyone should be given a shelter, a free home. Vote for me!
He has done jack in his entire 76 years of sorry, unproductive life.
>>71104633
>debts
Fucking cuck.
>we already pay for that
I know you imbecile... I'm just saying that not all of your tax money is dedicated to Healthcare.
>>71104260
>open up an economics book
>BUT ONE THAT SUPPORTS MY VIEWPOINT
>NO HOW DARE YOU READ AUSTRIAN ECONOMICS! PUT THAT DOWN!
>>71104799
That shit is gonna be automated so no we don't need those either. Instead of striving for mediocrity why not promote success and freedom and the cards will fall naturally.
The university needs to die though which is only because colleges have gotten fat and happy off of guaranteed govt money. When you cut that shit down, they'll make changes to be more efficient.
>>71104884
Doesn't matter what you would do with it. The fact is you can't put a limit on how much someone earns.
>>71104650
Bernie also defends Israel you shill.
>>71104884
Many houses cost more than a million. Maybe I want to buy an apartment building as an investment. A fucking shame I can't do that because the apartment building costs 12 million. Many successful businesses cost well over a few million, maybe I want to buy one of those. Too bad again, you're stuck being a fucking pleb for big government for life.
>>71104757
It's a wild idea. You might as well just get rid of the government of we were to adopt such a philosophy.
>>71104650
That literally refutes nothing about what I said
>also
>thinking the jewish socialist would do anything to harm muh israel
Oldest trick in the book, and you fell for it.
AGAIN.
>maybe Bernie will shoah them after you guys get your DUDE WEED LMAO
>>71104769
>the rich is anyone who makes over minimum wage
Have you actually seen his tax plan?
>>71103534
Obama said he'd make my healthcare free too when he raised taxes.
Guess what?
I'm near minimum wage, my taxes went up, medical prices went up and I didn't get any free, or even reverb discounted, healthcare.
Bernie is full of bullshit!
>>71104992
I already don't like how much i'm getting taxed and what they're using it on, what makes you think I want to add healthcare to that long list.
>>71104367
>No one should earn more than a million dollars a year
That was in 1970's, that today is around 6 million.
>>71104260
Do you actually understand Keynesian economics?
Keynes favoured spending (+lower taxes) during the bust and austerity(+higher taxes) during the boom so the economic policies are countercyclical
I don't get it either
Unless you're making over $250,000 a year, your taxes will not change at all under Bernie.
>>71104884
Some people can be such small thinkers. Everyone truly isn't equal.
>>71103534
No.
Sage goes in the options field.
Health insurance is not even close to expensive compared to Bernie's tax increases.
sage
sage
sage
>>71104799
Here is a thought:
If people didn't have to pay so much taxes, they could use their money to pay for their own insurance!
And yes, even low income earners pay loads of taxes such as VAT, ridiculous gas taxes etc. I could literally save 70-80% of the money I spend on gas because it's all taxes.
Etatism does not work. Remove government from healthcare and lower taxes, and suddenly poor people can afford private insurance because the companies are competing to offer the best 'poor people'-insurance.
>>71105243
1+1=43.16
>>71105081
Good idea. Government should be very small at all times.
>>71104956
When I was 12, I had some kidney issues and the medical bills were so horrible my parents had to sell their house. Mind you, my mother was a lawyer and my father an economist, so we were as middle class as it gets. Now imagine the child of a taxi driver getting the same problem. Would you just let him die "because capitalism"?
>>71103534
>FREE
>FREE
>FREE
GET A FUCKING JOB. WORK FULL TIME. YOU GET FREE HEALTH INSURANCE FROM YOUR EMPLOYER. FUCKING NIGGERS, HOLY SHIT.
THE PRICE OF A BURGER WILL RISE
BURN HIM ALIVE
>>71105229
>Unless you're making over $250,000 a year, your taxes will not change at all under Bernie.
>>71103534
We already have a partially socialized system in america that 1) spends more money per person than most of tge civilized world 2) comparatively has substandard care
Bernie fags are delusional retards that have a hard on for anything socialized when we already have a pretty socialized system that doesnt work that well.
Protip: youre not going to get swedens healthcare in america by making people pay more taxes
>>71105229
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016
>>71103742
yes, and i'm sure that you can foretell the future with your crystal ball and tell us that life doesn't happen and you're guaranteed a retirement. there's nothing the universe could possibly do to change your situation, therefore you think everyone else's should be compared to yours.
kill yourself.
>>71104884
>the ceo of Volkswagen earned 1 million in January
>allright lads pack it up, no more work for the year lol
>everything goes to shit
How can there still be socialist Greeks? Do they not see what it has done to their country?
>>71105163
Because Healthcare is more important than anything on that list and those other things should be the first to go. Health and well being of the people should be the government's priority.
>>71105367
You can't have sweden's system is because of differing ideologies and ethnicities in America. Very little connects people together except the idea of being an American.
At this rate the balkanization of america is becoming more and more true
>>71103534
I'd rather pay into the military desu.
>>71103534
>raise taxes
>free
jesus christ, bernouts are retarded.
>>71105487
And even Sweden is starting to crumble since they keep importing scum
>>71103534
Your entire argument:
>I need things and I have the right to tell you how to spend your money
Fuck off and die.
>>71105148
Read my post again.
After a few years, there will only be 'rich' and welfare people. But the rich won't pay because they will be the party.
>>71104652
>If not enough people are entering those fields to maintain these rights properly then the government can force citizens to fill those positions
OR they just increase the pay/subsidize the educational requirements to incentive more people to go into the field. This is such a stupid argument I see libertarians make.
>>71105294
Nigger it barely costs over $1,000 per year for basic health insurance.
My income taxes are going from 0% to 17.2%.
Thank fucking communist faggots I have to pay an extra 7k per year just for my own health insurance.
Go fuck yourself maple nigger.
Go back to creating your failed Obama shilling threads.
>>71105242
To be fair, of we allow for inflation that number should be closer to 5 million or thereabouts and there is legitimately no reason to allow one man to hoard stop much money.
>>71104182
>human right
Health care requires the labor of others, ergo, it is not a human right. Piss off.
>>71105558
So basically serfdom a la Elysium? Fuck that future and the automation it will entails.
>>71105346
>things that never happened
The answer is yes.
>having to sell your house for a medical surgery.
Its probably because your parents got taxed so much they didn't have any savings. That or the price of the surgery was bumped up from gov subsidies.
>>71105346
Your dumb ass parents should have gotten proper insurance then.
>>71103534
>Just stop funding the military!
How is this supposed to work? There are personnel who need to be paid and equipment that needs maintained or replacing. Just fire everybody in any branch of the military and scrap all the equipment?
>>71105349
1) For profit healthcare makes it more expensive.
2) You can't guarantee healthcare to everyone at a reasonable price if it isnt provided by the government.
3) Not everyone has a job
>>71104827
I always glare at the scooter-whales, they make me fucking sick.
Gotta spend money to make money.
I'm in debt for my degree, but now i'll be making good money and enjoy laughing at the mcdonalds workers striking for $15 an hour.
>>71105445
Then how are the weak, retarded and genetically defective going to be prevented from reproducing? Artificial selection systems don't work I.e. pure bred dogs so you could be damning our species in the long run.
>>71104437
>You spend more than anybody, now!
>Implying Obama has not doubled the national debt in just 8 years, more than the rest of our nations leaders combined.
>>71105259
Even without taxes, if you earn 10K a year, you will barely be able to afford a house with plumbing and electricity. Getting sick can literally ruin your life in this case.
>>71105445
>Health and well being of the people should be the government's priority
And that priority would be best achieved if the government would just stay out of it.
>>71104884
There are fucking condos in D.C. that cost over half a million.
FUCKING. CONDOS. Half a million dollars.
You're retarded.
>>71104182
Services are not rights.
>>71103534
so we'll all be "healthy" (waiting months for treatment amidst a beaurocratic nightmare) and "educated" (brainwashed a la Communist propaganda) and completely vulnerable due to voluntarily removing our competitive military edge...
sounds like a recipe for success, fucking tard.
>>71105763
You do realize that you don't have to accept the 10k income? You could get more skills or find a job elsewhere. Taking the dick willingly and then complaining about it just shows that you are a child.
>>71105713
1)
This is insanely wrong.
Government intervention into a market makes everything more expensive.
The reason is because since health care providers know that the government will foot the bill, they can charge high prices for services.
The same thing applied to:
Subsidized sub prime mortgages - housing prices inflated
Subsidized student loans - cost of tuition skyrocketed
read a book
>Saudi admits they will sell 700+ bill in us assets if indicted for 9/11 involvement
>no military cause Bernie downsized it to pay for our 20 trillion dollar healthcare and university
>bow to our Saudi leaders cause we have no military force and cannot leverage anything
>I love getting beheaded
>>71105445
Ok look, the rights I have are the rights to life, Liberty and the possession of private property so don't tell me how to spend my money and don't steal it from me you fucking punk.
>>71105590
So they raise taxes even more to lure people into medicine who then pay more taxes because they receive higher wages?
Brilliant
I don't see YOU giving birth to little taxpayers you sycophant
>>71105659
Insurance companies are fucking jews. Even in my adult life, I wrecked my car once after a party and they didn't pay for it.
>>71105445
Why should it be the priority? Because of your feelings? Because you feel nobody should ever be hurt ever and that we should all come together to pay for a bunch of fat bitches diabetes treatment along with that smokers cancer chemo.
Go fuck yourself. PAY DEBTS
>>71105670
You can educate them and get them a proper job instead having them live on benefits.
>>71105366
>>71105229
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016
>>71105601
>hoard
Wait do you think millionaires never spend any of their money?
>>71105952
Sure, so our taxes don't go up, we just don't get a raise for the next twenty years. Sounds great!
>>71105730
Anyone can reproduce... Just that some people die at 30 while others live well into their 80s.
By the way, with such a tax plan rich people, aka the innovative ones which are contributing to society, I think you call us the bourgeois if I recall correctly, will just leave to a more libertarian place and take their companies with them (Liechtenstein/Swiss etc.).
>rent apartment
>Bernie owns house
>tells Oi to pay 50% more rent so poorfags who can't afford it can live there
>move to another apartment
>let poorfags die
EZ
>>71105601
There is literally no reason one man can't hoard all that money. He earned it he can do whatever he wants with it.
Is it natural for cuck countries to want to be slave or something?
>>71106020
Then die faster. You greeks aren't going to pay back your debt and are living on beautiful real estate that can be used by smarter people.
>>71105842
If everyone got better jobs then who would drive the busses? Who would fix your ceiling lights? The only answer I can think of is illegal aliens, but you want to kick them out as well!
>>71105724
>enjoy laughing at the mcdonalds workers striking for $15 an hour.
I do have a reason for not working in the US since I when I left high school I directly became a mason/bricklayer.
And I don't have to compete with illegal Meixcans here.
I do earn more than most of my friends who got a degree since I had most of my income when I still lived with my parents invested.
What a dilemma, /pol/!
As a LEGAL immigrant, Bernie would give me the right to vote without being a citizen but as I am not fucking insane I would never vote for Bernie.
Please vote Trump so my taxes can go down even further.
>>71105952
>49.1%
>>71105973
He doesn't understand how money works, no one in his country does. You should know this Hans, it's why you won't be getting any of your money back.
>>71104182
Shut up gyronigger, you don't have ANY authority to talk about whether or not someone can afford shit . Pay denbts you mussie cocksucking cucks.
Capitalism
>have kikes steal all your shit without gettung taxed
>country has to print more money
>they steal more
>inflation
>
Socialism
>tax the kikes (imagine Apple and Microsoft is worth 9999999 trillions of dollars) 65%
>all these money go into educational and health care system
>
>>71105926
Well, and my gf wrecked my car and the insurance paid everything from towing to a rental car for two weeks and 7,2k (what the car was worth) so I can get a new one. All for 52 bucks a month, paid for 6 years so 3,7k. So for 3,7k paid in I get 7,2k out, a rental for two weeks, paid towing and they also arranged it so I can sell the scrap to some polish guys.
Looks like you didn't do your research and picked shit insurance or you drove drunk like a dumb ass.
Pic related, my car.
>>71106119
Automation. It's going to happen anyways. The old motto was make it to 65 to retire. It will change to make to 65 without getting replaced by a machine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
>>71104884
Bernice's plan destroys the incentive principle
>>71106119
>advocating for slavery
Tell me again how the left isn't racist?
Mexicans can do the shit jobs while we stay in upper echelons of society with the money we magically create through taxing people like the Mexicans who work hard.
>>71105952
What a meme proposal. Raise the extra revenue through a VAT, not insanely high income tax rates
>>71105929
I don't have debts you cunt.
And no its not because of my feelings but because having a healthy population is important in a civilized society.
>>71106295
But then my iPhone 9Z won't be free D:
>>71106215
I'm not even in Greece right now. I'm in holiday in Cyprus. I happen to be Russian.
>>71106326
As wealth is shared so is debt. That's how socialism works you cuck. Hurry up and be more productive to pay for your unproductive neighbor.
>>71105850
I pay 3 to 5 euro for a visit to the doctor, I rarely pay over 7,5 euro for medicine. A trip to the emergency room costs me about 20 euro.
I had a full body ct scan a few weeks ago, this cost me 9 euro.
Please tell me more about how government intervention makes prices skyrocket.
What I do now is that privatising our railway system and energy sector made the price skyrocket and services rapidly declined.
>>71106406
>Cyprus
Just say Turkey
>>71106228
What exactly is being stolen from me?
Realistic version:
Capitalism:
>Businesses hire people, pay them
>people spend money at other businesses
>tax lightly to pay for roads, police, military
Socialism:
>high taxes for all
>less jobs available because big businesses left the country
>less tax revenue because GDP is in the shitter
>can't even afford to pay for roads and police
>>71105973
What would a man do with 5 million annual income?
>>71106122
Good shit Netherlands, according to most of our country you're doing the impossible.
>not going to muh college
>not racking up huge debt
>not dealing with wetbacks
>getting paid well
>>71106103
I'm Russian
>>71105590
>incentivizing people to maintain human rights
That's a backwards society. If healthcare is a human right, then the government can force people to enter the industry to maintain/enforce that right. If I cannot receive healthcare due to lack of physicians then my rights are being violated and its the government's job to fulfill its end of the social contract by any means necessary.
>>71106326
> having a healthy population is important in a civilized society.
Then why is the west letting millions of un healthy people into their countries?
>society before modern medicine was un civilized.
Why are you so racist to native Americans you shit lord.
>>71106020
Not true, the number of children you can have and how well you can support them is limited automatically without government intervention. Otherwise downies get to procreate unimpeded (just one example)
>>71106228
>corporatism*
Fixed.
The free market doesn't give corporate subsidies, the whole thing is a sham. Gas the kikes race war now!
>>71103534
>Yes, but healthcare will be free
No, it's not free. You'd pay for it with the higher taxes.
>>71106491
Then go od on krokodil.
>>71106461
Realistically? Most of it would be invested. Some would be spent on himself, some would go into stocks, mutual funds, futures, etc., and some would be invested in other businesses. Or, he might decide to build a new house, or maybe use a few years' income to help his alma mater build a new engineering building or university center.
>>71105598
So you either make nothing or a shit tonne and you're telling me copays and deductibles are worth it. Why don't you have any self respect? Are you a car? Either pay the Jew. Or you feel you become one if you an alleged cracker is paying for your cracker neighbour's health too and vice versa? Go with Duckface's debt instead. Nobody cares anymore. Muh incentive. Muh it won't pass. Muh you have no right. Did it our way for 50 years. Pay 4500. Live to be 82. You pay 10-12K. Live to like 77. The definition of insanity is doing the same shit and expecting a different result
>>71106433
How much do people pay for you to leech off their goods?
>>71106461
Investing you denbts nigger, people dont have scrooge mcduck money pits
>>71106072
While that man has a lot of money, the majority of the population is struggling to survive. That ain't right. Besides, I don't think a doctor or a lawyer earns 5 mil. It's probably a little shit that inherited a business from his parents and can literally do nothing and live better than 99% of the population. Our like in Russia, where the richest people are simply the ones that had friends in the Soviet government, acquiring the state's resources and living off of the very people that can barely afford to pay r rent
>>71106273
Yeah either Mexicans do it under shit conditions, or we provide proper Healthcare and let our own people have those jobs.
>>71106461
>Build an artificial island city with the most unique and modern architecture.
>Donate to charity
>invest in a small company trying to cure Alzheimer's
>>71106649
And Duckface wants all this shit too. Without explanation. PLUS a tax cut. Like fuck my ass
>>71106688
We aren't arguing for trust fund kiddies. However big earners that earned their money say for example google founders, deserve to have their wealth.
>>71106513
You repeating the argument doesn't make it any less stupid.
>>71103534
>giving the state the power to take even more money from you at gun point and redistribute it as they see fit is not morally or ethically wrong in any way
This is you, you should commit suicide.
>>71106433
Are you fucking dense nigger? Your fucking income taxes are massive.
Meanwhile we get to keep more of our wealth.
Go read a fucking muslim dick
>I want free things, and I am entitled to spending your money on them because muh feels
Stop depending on others to survive. Man up or kill yourself, bernout.
>>71103534
10 minimum is better. Nigger, when minimum wage raises, EVERYONE is going to be looking for a raise. Costs for small businesses will fucking skyrocket and they'll have to lay people off. Businesses will be harder to start up. Inflation will accelerate. Unemployment will fucking rise. Taxes increase. And free college? Many people have came out and said it's going to be a lot more expensive than Bernie Cuck claims it's going to be.
No nigger.
>>71106688
Why you so angry someone is richer than you? Stop being a 15 year old and grow the fuck up polidolopolous
>>71106242
Well we will talk about letting poor people die when their jobs actually do become automated, but for now, there aren't robots driving taxis...
>>71106767
Which gun was held to the homeless man up here whom paid theoretically ZERO CENTS in taxes but also gave him care whilst not fucking up everything like you?
>>71106433
>What I do now is that privatising our railway system and energy sector made the price skyrocket
And less government debt.
Also sometimes like when England privatized their water it took a while before there was a stable situations.
England water price increased first when they privatized but the cost grew a lot slower that by now the privatization has resulted in cost reduction compared to other parts of the UK
66% of the budget is already spent supporting welfare.
18 percent of the budget is spent on the military.
In my book the role of government is to protect people not provide for them. Free healthcare sounds grate until you wind up like Canada and have to wait months on end to get your cholesterol checked.
>>71106792
>I want you to cook my food and get paid fuck all to do it and zero tips for you you white bitch
>I want my planes to route themselves
>I see Muslims in my Cheerios
>>71106854
That is an incoherent sentence and I cannot understand you. I'll assume you're Chinese and ask you to try again
>>71106223
Holy shit I'm not greek and i dont have debts
>>71103534
>It's impossible to live on the 7 dollar minimum wage in places like california or new york.
Minimum wage seekers are losers that never had the chance to learn discipline or self control, raising the MW is treating the symptom instead of the cause, there isn't allot of demand for useless people, but the offer is huge.
>>71106854
So that homeless guy deserves my money to pay for injuries caused by his degeneracy?
>>71106900
500 on 50K in taxes on niggerfare. 5000 for sam walton fare
>>71106961
Yes yes whom can outmeme the last guy. Cohesion. Good for even your racial cloning machines
>>71103534
>Free healthcare
Stop this meme
>>71106231
I had some Adderall before so that's why they denied it.
>>71106846
Because smart people are advocating to prevent other smart (greedy) people from making less smart effectively unemployable.
Also if you think a living wage will occur to offset such increase in unemployment you must be brain dead.
Serfdom with robots creating products for the rich is the future.
The jews will get their paradise with a small population on a world with only 500 million people.
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>>71106649
>The definition of insanity is doing the same shit and expecting a different result
Did I just see a commie finally say this shit? Oh lord this is a great day.
Bernie Sanders will be a disaster.
The U.S. needs to be the policeman of the world to stop the spread of tyranny. Look how much Obongo has capitulated to Russia already just from pulling troops out of Germany.
Likewise, Bernie will explode the cost of living. Big companies are not going to stick around to keep prices down. Unless they get big subsidies and tax breaks.
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But I already pay for private global VIP healthcare. Why would I give a shit about something irrelevant? My biggest issues are who will stand by our police officers and who will purge SJW.
>>71106911
You get paid what you're worth, and I tip well when the server earns it. You should earn your keep, not have it handed to you by the taxpayers. Man up or kill yourself, pussy
>>71106539
Yeah native Americans weren't civilized, big deal.
>>71104182
Having the right to take someones labor for free is no right at all.
Have a
>(You)
>>71104495
We don't even have enough doctors in germany and even with appointment i wait up to two hours. Go fuck yourself
>>71106764
If public defenders went extinct you would be ok with that? I mean you have a right to legal defense. If no one is willing to defend you, you can defend yourself. Just like with healthcare. If no is willing to heal you, you can heal yourself.
>>71107047
Nope. She does more work than CEOs who run lemonade stands and you treat your ballbag better
>>71107028
Fucking economy is about to explode and planet x is coming but we're talking about how greasy niggers such as ourselves do not deserve any hospitalisations. Ok.
>>71106649
I go to the doctor once a year for a check up or a minor issue that runs me at most $500.
My insurance costs me roughly $1,400 per year.
At the most I spend upwards $2,500 per year in healthcare as a single individual.
Bernie's tax plan is going to raise taxes on fucking everyone.
The majority of his supports don't even want to pay the tax increases.
It's not """"""""just a little extra"""""""""
You're asking me to pay thousands more just so I can cover myself.
The hilarious part is thinking that everything he's proposing is going to pass.
Health insurance companies are capitalists. They like to make money. They'd sooner shill Barack Obama 2016 & 2020 before they vote for Sanders.
Sanders' plan is a fuck you to capitalism, and a fuck you to citizens.
For what?
So fucking nigger jamal can have health insurance while him & Drayvon rob liquor stores.
Fucking when does the Canadian IP bans start.
Australians are fun and Turks have their moments.
But fuck nigger Canadian posters are the absolute worst.
>>71107016
http://www.druginfo.adf.org.au/topics/how-do-amphetamine-type-stimulants-affect-driving
> If you intend using amphetamine-type stimulants, the safest option is not to drive.
You were literally driving under influence and then blame the insurance company.
Next time don't DUI you fucking druggie
>>71107111
Waitresses are working harder than CEOs? You're literally retarded.
>>71107085
>If public defenders went extinct
But they aren't, are they? And that's the point. It's a stupid argument because it has no basis in reality.
>>71107112
This vacationing >>71106688 slav is annoying as well. Very likely Putin shitposting in greece so as to further push the west to collapse.
>>71107169
In the cigarette thread, Adderal wasn't meth. Now for the purposes of jewbags, it is!
>>71103534
>Yes, but healthcare will be free to offset the tax increase, which will ultimately LOWER how much you spend.
If we elect Trump anime will become real, all the cool fireworks will become legal again, and everyone will be able to afford an Audi.
See, I can make shit up too! Being left-wing is so much fun!
>>71107111
>deserving hospitals
What have you ever done in your life to deserve medicalcare for free for the rest of your life?
>inb4 hur I was born.
Your a useless piece of shit that leeches off of those that are successful.
>>71107174
Yep. Ow wow. I do cocaine all day. Keep things simple. Set a "culture". Play "Capitalism II" all day. Fuck a trap. And fire your family. How challenging. Muh commercial and business terms. Muh overhead. Muh synergies. Muh delegation
>>71107174
He just assumes the more money someone makes the less they work. Lawyers, doctors, and engineers do shit all. The CEO didn't have to work up to that position. You can join the military as a general.
>>71107249
You're making me sound like you Dutch Oven arrogant fucks
>>71103534
I hope, if you get your $15 minimum wage, that NY will make you want to kill yourself
>>71103534
>It's impossible to live on the 7 dollar minimum wage in places like california or new york.
Minimum wage isn't supposed to be a living wage, it's a shitty starter job wage and most minimum-wage work isn't actually worth more than that. If you're trying to live off minimum wage as an adult you've fucked up hard in life and nobody is obligated to bail you out.
>>71107209
>Somebody else than me says adderal isn't an amphetamine-type stimulant
>Therefore I must have said it too
>Therefore I'm a hypocrite.
I haven't even seen that cigarette thread.
Kill yourself.
Greece was driving under the influence of a drug that impairs driving.
It's information he should have known therefore he was 100% responsible.
He just wants others to be held responsible for his own mistake.
>>71107169
Drug companies put that kind of shit on every bottle.
>Don't operate heavy machinery
>May induce nausea
>May make you drowsy
That shit means nothing.
>>71105421
yes lets all just throw money at the corporations you all hate in order to avoid being subject to the random scariness of reality
fuck saving money and being responsible, that's for white men
>>71105926
You wrecked it while drunk of course they didnt pay. Fuck you commie
>>71107276
Lawyers are wordsmiths. Doctors are heros and should be treated as such. Not something to Sue. And engineers are smart but STEM is a meme like all mortarboard ceremonies
>>71107201
>what is a philosophical argument
You are arguing in favor of the draft and you don't even realize it.
>>71107209
/pol/ is one person
>>71107317
Yep. Kill yerself, left right and centre. This tea is very bright. That is what "kill yourself" sounds like to me. Shit your pants more, Tyrone
>>71103534
I don't support taking care of losers like you who contribute nothing to society, though
>>71107398
A fucking leaf
>>71107366
No. Dingbats are pearl clutching hypocrite dingbats
>Unironically supporting Sanders
>>71107422
Shutup Aquafresh Tulip Euthanasia man. We saved your Queen lady
>>71106433
You're retarded. Literally not grasping the basics of taxation
>>71107472
At least our teeth aren't rotting.
>>71107502
Wat? We have purple teeth is how white are our teeth
>>71107482
Where've you been this whole thread?
>>71106540
Aren't most downies infertile anyway? Besides, if they wanna make kids, there is nothing stopping a downie girl (50% fertility rate) getting pregnant from a healthy man.
>>71107574
>Aren't most downies infertile anyway?
Only the men
It's useless, OP.
Americans are too dumb to understand how much more cost-efficient public healthcare is.
>>71107472
I honestly hope Canada gets raped by invading forces. I want all of you to be raped so hard that Canadians never exist again.
80% of Canadians are fukin goofs
Your parents should have aborted you.
>>71107671
And who runs the world and occupied your country since WWII? Admit it even healthier europeans are still worth less than an obese american.
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>A Greek knowing about how to manage money
>>71107671
Our maybe the US just has a lot more nignogs/morbidly obese people.
Cancer survival rates are higher in the US.
Those scooter thingies those fat pigs need add to the expenditure on health.
They're expensive.
>>71106754
There are only 2 Google founders, the rest are trust fund kiddies and thieves. Funny to see how you're arguing for the individual when it comes to rich people but you don't care about individual good Muslims. Exceptions are not the rule, because most Muslims are terrorist sympathizers and most rich people are trust fund cunts.
>>71107766
Butthurt Ruski incoming
>>71107671
>niggers
>highly government influenced healthcare sector as it is.
If muhameds dick isn't enough for you just say so and stop making excusing to get Americans to immigrate.
>>71107793
And how did those trust funds come into being? Their parents made it for them. By working for their money.
>>71106819
I'm angry when criminals live better than me and get away with it.
>>71106772
13, 07% of our gross wage goes to social security, so this doesn't only cover our health care. So that's about 2000 euro every year.
My mother-in-law, before she died, she was over 6 months in the hospital, had several operations and non refundable medications. This has costed us about 3000 euro. Just imagine how much that would cost in america.
>>71107905
>wants to steal peoples money
>is mad at "criminals" that happen to be smarter than him
Stealing is stealing.
>>71107863
No, by being jews and fucking people over
>>71107905
>DUI
>fucking criminals not giving me insurance money
Fuck off adderall baby
>>71103534
We need national socialism
>>71107905
Why do you care? It's not like you're gonna spend the extra money on anything other than track suits and vodka.
>>71107963
Nothing smart about abusing positions of power
>>71107929
Now calculate how much your whole family has spend on health insurance over several generations
>>71107996
Can't admit that people can legitimately become rich, eh?
>>71108018
Fuck off kike. We need national libertarianism. Unless you start gassing jews now, socialism will only strengthen the jew. This is why jews love communism.
>>71108028
We export so much oil but they get all the money
>>71108094
Not quite
>>71108044
Well obviously they're doing something smarter than lazy fucks like you.
But really though. When will you pay debts.
>>71108104
Then get into the oil business. Complaining about the problem takes time away from solving it.
Libertarianism is a meme. Paleoconservatism is the true path.
>>71107671
/pol/ BTFO
/thread
Pack it up. Go home. Hans is bringing the bangers and bants
>>71108132
On the contrary it is.
>>71104182
>Greece commenting on Fiscal Policy
Trashed
>>71107347
No, I'm not. I support taxation "at gunpoint," if you want to put it that way, but not the draft.
>>71108248
Ok!
>>71108258
Hello Goldjew Snacks
>>71108288
Canada this aussie has made one post and its better shitposting than everything you've said in this thread. please don't embarrass yourself anymore.
>>71108288
Don't you have an occupy wallstreet rally to be at?
>>71108073
My family spends thousands of euros each year on medical expenses, we use our health care a lot more than the average family. 2 members of my family are also on disability.
Without our healthcare system, my parents would've gone bankrupt....we barely kept our head above the water with socialised medicair
I do agree that the average family is overpaying and that's not fair
anybody else glad they didnt fall for the education debt meme? im 20 and got into ironworking straight out of high school, living with my parents comfortably and have a decent amount of dosh im sitting on. still got no idea why anybody is willingly making themselves a debt slave for a shitty scrap of paper not even guaranteeing them work
>>71108833
Blue collar jobs are the chillest.
>>71107075
Agree.
And that is why the workers should seize the means of production. To stop the bourgeoisie taking their labour for free.
>>71108283
If taxation can be done "at gunpoint" why can't healthcare and defense. Healthcare and defense are paid for by taxes. Any power granted to the government will be abused if it can be. This is out national mythos. If you give government control of healthcare you give them potential control of what genetic illnesses are permissible and what nutrient intake is permissible.
>>71103534
We got $15 minimum wage here in Cali nigga. 2022 and buidness finna fly from the land. Mcdonalds replacing staff with robots and Sheeeit, American outfitters just gonna cut 13% of their workers, businesses everywhere raising their food costs to compensate for increased wages while simultaneously cutting the amount of employees they have on payroll. Nigga shit y'all Bernie bots dumb as fuck. Nigga. Fuckin 5% decrease in profit from a business my senpai owned over the course of 2 years cuz hey let's increase wage $2 whole dollars. Our business had to increase prices to attempt to compensate and with that our consumer base dropped.
