has trump said anything about bathroom bills/transgender people
i don't like him in general but i hate hillary more so i might vote for him if he supported trans people
i know he said stuff about gay people before but i specifically mean trans
>>71089773
yes they'll be right next to the jihad bathrooms
>what could possibly go wrong?
Nothing
he changed the rules of his miss universe canada pageant to allow a qt tranny to compete
n-no homo
now vote for trump and get out you mentally ill fetishist
>>71089773
No he hasn't. These are non-issues. Go to the bathroom according to your biological sex. People are fucking dying all over the world, who fucking cares about plastic surgery and mental illness and mad cow disease pill-taking preteens.
Fucking cast your vote for what you think will make the world a better place for EVERYONE, not just the lowest common denominator. Think logic. Think smart. Bathrooms aren't an issue.
>>71090132
Keep on keepin on brotha
Trump loves the boipuccy, he doesn't want to say anything.
>>71090132
Everything is a non-issue until the people ignoring it realize it's grown to be an actual issue.
When will you stop ingoring things that cause issues?
>>71090348
I get your logic but bathrooms are a non-issue. It's the people who for some reason want to change rules for the fucking bathroom that's an issue. A really, really, really, reaallly minor one.
>>71089773
Vote Trump. A vote that's isn't for him is that much more of an advantage for Hillary.
Knowing him he would come out and say that bathrooms are seperated by your sex, not your gender.
>>71090348
When the nation/world is on the brink of economic collapse your identity crisis bullshit is about as important as the shit you took a few weeks ago
Get some real problems
>>71089773
I'm pretty sure he supports get help for the mental I'll (trans). Hopefully pic related is his solution.
>>71089773
>trans
>people
alright so thats a no i guess
hillary it is
>>71090886
we vote
>>71090910
You would doom the west to collapse just so you could go into the women's bathroom to take a dump?
>>71091145
i don't want to get raped desu
>>71091233
Why would you get raped? What does that have to do with the bathroom?
Fuck off you freak.
You're a cancer. Kill yourself.
>>71091233
If you're passable enough and keep your mental illness to yourself it wouldn't be such a problem and hardly anyone will give you shit about it.
>>71089773
if you are trans i would go see a psychologist, it is a mental disorder
Just enter whatever bathroom you want to, worst case you're going to be taken into court and sjw will win it for you.
>>71091318
>am gril (or whatever I don't care if you think im not)
>look like gril
>drunk horny guy wants to fuck a gril
>im in his bathroom
>get raped
and potentially
>sees i have benis
>get murdered
>>71091415
some states want ids or something before you go in
>>71091565
transitioning is the accepted treatment :^)
inb4 da joos
>>71091687
>transitioning is the accepted treatment :^)
becoming sterile is the accepted treatment? if only we could transition muslims and blacks
>>71091854
i don't like muslims either
i have no idea why most trans people expect you to embrace people who want to decapitate you
>>71091687
Alternatively
>creepy tranny now allowed to use girl's bathroom
>my daughter is in a stall
>disgusting tranny rapes her when she comes out to wash her hands
It's always me, myself, and I with you fucking people. "but what if it's ME who gets raped??? hell with others, gotta watch out for number one! XD"
Not only that, but even if you did get your wish from Bernie or whatever cuck you wanna vote for, would it be fucking worth it with the savage sea of other oppressive, corrupt shit that will rain down on us? Think, dude.
Why are you faggots replying to this bait? sage and move on.
>world about to end
>mental defects still worrying about bathroom """"""""""rights"""""""""
>>71092044
9/10 you don't even have a daughter
also does this even happened
>>71092280
>>71092303
happen
How about you just fucking kill yourself if not only you're too much of a pussy to accept the fact you are male, you too pussy to actually commit to it and get your junk sliced off.
Do it or don't. If you're scared of getting fucked by a dude in the bathroom because you wear a skirt and have a dick, either stop wearing the skirt or stop having the dick. Or just stop being a scared cunt.
The threat of allowing mentally ill men like yourself around little girls is far greater than the off chance that some regular dude might attack a non-committal tranny.
>>71092280
>I will never be mad enough to take the time out of my day to put together a shitty anti-trans image macro with a picture of a girl dressed as Abe Lincoln
Fuck, it feels good not to be a righty faggot
>>71092415
>"off chance" pulled out of nowhere
meme
>surgery is free
meme
>transvestites thinking they can fool anyone with a working gay-dar
>tranny whores using the bathroom meme to prey on children
>>71092415
Well put.
>>71092303
9/10 you don't even have a vagina
what the fuck are you even trying to say
what about the gay little fuccbois at the club taking a piss? why can't they use the girl's room? seems to be the same issue you're having, except you take hormone pills that damage your body
it seems as though you just want a bathroom for weak people who can't defend themselves
and guess what, those exist!
Christ, you people genuinely scare me with how fucking dim you are.
>>71089773
Trans people should be supported with mental and genetic assistance. What the fuck good is a woman who can't make babies?
>>71089773
he'll say the least he needs to in order to keep christcvks in line.
>>71090132
>everything is a non-issue as long as not making it an issue supports my opinion on it
>>71092630
The meme is the idea that trannies are at risk by using the men's restroom. They aren't.
Little girls being in danger by being forced to be around the mentally ill in isolated conditions is a legitimate concern.
>>71092630
Then don't crossdress until you get it done if you want to be less scared. But it's not everyone else's job to make sure that your irrational fears are catered to.
>>71092280
The ideas are that people can be born the wrong sex, and gender roles are a social construct.
I mean, you can also continue to mock a strawman, but that's just circlejerking.
Trannies need to go to the hospital not the toilet
>>71092859
>everything is a non-issue as long as not making it an issue supports my opinion on it
I never said everything is a non-issue. I said bathrooms are a non-issue. Allow me to reiterate. Bathrooms are a non-issue. This is not an opinion.
When it comes to all the faggy social "issues", I think Trump should just say leave it to the states to decide and call it a fucking day.
>>71092874
>The ideas are that people can be born the wrong sex
No they don't. The idea goes that a person can be born with a gender that doesn't match their biological sex.
But that idea is incompatible with the notion that genders are just social constructions and not themselves rooted in biology.
>>71092674
>surgery is free
>those bathrooms are everywhere
>>71092873
i really want to see a non-trivial or even non zero amount of transgender women going into bathrooms to rape people before you continue this meme
>>71092997
>im right because im right lol
>>71092874
>tranny redditor cant even argue without refering to masturbation
thinking you are trans is a maladaptive behavior and needs to be fixed.
>>71093057
This thread should be used as an example as to why the mentally ill should not be allowed to vote. Literally putting poop above the life or death of modern society. You can't make this shit up.
>i like wearing girl's clothing because my mom actually payed attention to me when i did it when i was little
>transgender """people"""
>>71093057
>i really want to see a non-trivial or even non zero amount of transgender women going into bathrooms to rape people before you continue this meme
They don't because it's not normalized. That's WHY WE'RE OPPOSED TO NORMALIZING IT.
God, you're like the fucktards saying that muslims aren't a big problem in america. Well yeah! Because there are so few! That's why we want to keep it that way!
And I want to see proof that tranny dudes like you are at any significant risk of attack by going into men's restrooms beyond anyone else using the fucking restroom. Because there isn't a fucking difference. The supposed epidemic of trannies being abused because they crossdress and then use public restrooms is fake. Other than verbally, maybe. In which case, good.
>>71093030
>The idea goes that a person can be born with a gender that doesn't match their biological sex.
If it doesn't match, one of the two is wrong. The person is defined through their mind first and foremost. As such, it's logical to assume the body to be wrong - in other words, the sex.
>But that idea is incompatible with the notion that genders are just social constructions and not themselves rooted in biology.
Nice job only reading half a sentence. There's a difference between gender and gender roles.
>>71093122
This whole board is just masturbation and flinging random insults, but I guess once you're challenged at all, that's suddenly a problem.
>>71089773
Trump is more likely to strangle a transexual to death with his bare hands than support their bathroom fetishes.
>>71089773
There's no such thing as a real "transgender."
Transgender implies that you've ascended beyond "Male" and "Female," something which "transgender" people lack entirely in all biological definitions. You are a regression; not an advancement. You have not evolved; you have no biological advantages, you are simply a weakened product of both parent organizisms which cannot pass down any beneficial traits to its offsprings.
When you gain the ability to create an entirely new sub-species (a true transcendence) within the human race that contains both (or neither) genitalia associated with Male and Female, and have different reproductive functions (or are asexual), then you can get back to me with the "transgender" terminology. Until then refer to them as "transvestites," "crossdressers," or "surgicially modified sexual deviants with mental issues."
Those who are born with both male and female anatomy are an unfortunate case that should be considered a physical disease or handicap like any other. Some humans are born with extra limbs, no limbs, autism, etc., and a rare few with both tools (or pieces of both). It's a very sad thing, like someone born missing bones in their arms, but a defect does not empower you nor make you more enabled or special than any other member of society.
Use a handicaped stall or restroom and get over it.
>>71089773
>has trump said anything about bathroom bills/transgender people?
I hope not, an issue like transgender bathroom preferences should never come up in an election for the leader of a superpower.
>>71093192
i don't want to get raped /murdered
see you call it something stupid and it sounds stupid
>>71093268
>>71093248
>>71093331
nice argument fagtron
>>71093335
gender neutral bathrooms exist
and youre assuming theres going to be a problem for no reason
muslims have an established jihad thing
>>71093435
autism
>>71089773
>i specifically mean trans
I only care about me,nothing else.
You're the fucking problem with this country
>>71093360
>german pedophile defends tumblr ideas
>assume the body to be wrong
>>71093558
>i don't want a president who would hate me personally
wow
>>71093550
>i don't want to get raped /murdered
>rapists and murderers obey bathroom laws and would never go into a woman's bathroom to rape, this will be my safe zone
The flawed logic is a long, probably infinite list. You don't have any higher risk of getting raped or murdered than anyone else, snowflake, ESPECIALLY regarding bathrooms. I wouldn't be surprised if the women's bathroom rape stats are 10x higher than men's. As a matter of fact, let's see.
>>71093560
Are you just assblasted in general, or is there a reason you keep hopping into other peoples conversation just to insult people?
>>71090348
Why don't you explain to us how the bathroom issue will escalate to become the great scourge of our time?
If you want to bother someone about this, bother your school's Hall Monitor or someone else tackling issues on this scale. Don't bother the fucking leader of the free world with it.
>>71093360
If you accept that there is such a thing as mental gender which is (or can be) distinct from biological sex.
There isn't. There are some personality traits and behavioral patterns associated with biological sex, but there are not hard and fast rules or distinctions. A dude might have more feminine inclinations than normal but that does not make them in any capacity a woman.
Gender dysphoria is real. But that's also not being a different gender, but a physiological error in the neurology of the sexually developed tissues which causes PHYSICAL sensation of uneasiness. This condition can be improved by HRT but SRS and working hard to "become" the opposite biological sex (which is impossible) offers no additional gain.
>>71093435
Gender dysphoria is a real disease with genuine physiological cause and consequence. That being said, most trannies are just fags.
>>71093822
a drunk guy is probably going to go into the men's room
>>71093268
exactly, it is a mental illness and they are too delusional to get help. their echo chambers and "safe places" compounds their problems
>>71093550
>gender neutral bathrooms exist
Almost exclusively private ones, which is fine.
>and youre assuming theres going to be a problem for no reason
Trannies are either sexual deviants or actually mentally ill. Either one is a considerable increase in danger to a vulnerable individual over a normal adult male.
>>71093840
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people
No, you're a tranny muslim prioritizing pooping ""safely"" over literally any other pressing issue facing the planet.
You're not human, my mentally ill dude.
Trannies should have no issue with the bathroom bill.
If you're serious about being a tranny, you get the surgery, you change your birth certificate's gender.
The end
>>71092997
No, things for which you don't support the status quo are issues.
it's easy to say _____ is a non-issue when you already like how ____ is handled
>>71093550
Ad hominem is not an argument.
But apparently I'm talking to someone who advocates physical defects and a mental illness vindicated by a scalpel, so I can conclude our abilities to reason are fundamentally mismatched.
>i want to cut off my dick and get breast implants because masturbating is getting too boring, i need to appease my fetishes
im bored of arguing with you guys have another awoo
>>71094112
.
nice argument FAGTRON..
>>71094136
That's only half if it's argument.
>i want to cut off my dick and get breast implants because masturbating is getting too boring, i need to appease my fetishes and have everyone accept this as normal and change how society works around me.
>>71094254
sorry thumbnail
>>71093550
>nice argument fagtron
>autism
nice argument fagtron
>>71093897
>There are some personality traits and behavioral patterns associated with biological sex, but there are not hard and fast rules or distinctions. A dude might have more feminine inclinations than normal but that does not make them in any capacity a woman.
True, true. Like I've said, "Gender roles are a social construct". That's what it means. They aren't hard rules of biology. They depend on time and location, and they're correlations at best.
>But that's also not being a different gender, but a physiological error in the neurology of the sexually developed tissues which causes PHYSICAL sensation of uneasiness.
It's at that point that the border between mind and body gets muddy, and where we run into the problem of not having nearly enough understanding of the human brain. Any such absolute "this is it" argument with regards to brain development is a couple huge research steps in neurology early.
>This condition can be improved by HRT but SRS and working hard to "become" the opposite biological sex (which is impossible) offers no additional gain.
Okay... says who?
HRT results in physical change. Given that society does, in fact, have exceptions of people, it makes sense to try to skip the uncanny valley you get otherwise, and to "complete" the change process. Maybe not in direct relation to gender dysphoria, but in terms of general self-acceptancy and social relations, which are a huge part of mental well-being.
>>71094021
Dude, aren't you embarassed by yourself?
>>71093986
Guys, look, there's no point in talking to these people.
m8, I don't want you to get raped either, I think everyone has the right to shit safely. But bathroom laws as they are, are tried and true.
>>71094070
I agree with you. Except bathrooms aren't an issue. There's male and female bathrooms because we have different sexual organs. You're not sneaking in to my daughter's bathroom, you fucking snake.
>>71094464
Society is doomed.
I'm out, guys, you can only go around in circles like this for so long.
>It's at that point that the border between mind and body gets muddy, and where we run into the problem of not having nearly enough understanding of the human brain. Any such absolute "this is it" argument with regards to brain development is a couple huge research steps in neurology early.
>mentally ill muslim pedophile trying do psychology
>>71094464
so... its a mental illness...
glad we finally all agree
>>71089773
Trump doesn't care about issues that can be handled by the state. He's only focused on the issues that only the federal government can solve. International treaties, trade deals, sandniggers sandnigging, etc.
>>71094601
well i'm not a tranny and there's nothing stopping me from doing that now you autist ;^)
obviously you don't get the point because you can make up a trite "this is a non-issue because x" for anything
>no trannies from the dawn of time until the internet gets inveted
>suddenly they all come out of the woodwork by connecting to each other and convincing themselves that it's not sodomy or mental illness
>>71094708
>>71094797
You know why society isn't listening to you?
Because those are your arguments. You've become intellectually inbred, you've spent too much time in the hugbox, going through the same arguments and agreements times and times again, repeating the same shitposts.
You're as bad as tumblr. Go somewhere, anywhere, else. Get challenged.
>>71094913
It's a disorder, i.e. something not going the way it should, not following the normal, "orderly" process.
The question is, where do we go from this? What's the morally superior action, respecting the person and changing the body, or respecting the body and changing the person?
>You know why "society" isn't listening to you?
>It's not because you're not a faggot projecting your voice to represent an impossibly small minority
>It's because you're wrong even though I've stated that transgenderism is a mental illness
>Why don't you go to these places that agree with me and see how right I am?
>Disorder isnt illness
>>>>>morals after you've already committed adultery and wish to sex children
>""respecting"" the """"person"""" and changing the body, or respecting god's work and changing the sodomite?
>>71094464
>Okay... says who?
Multiple studies which fine no improvement on suicide rates between HRT and HRT+SRS. "educate yourself"
>HRT results in physical change.
Doesn't matter. Going "all the way" and pretending you've changed your sex offers no benefit. And a somewhat girly looking dude (or masculine looking woman) is a lot less "uncanny valley" than the abomination that most trannies end up looking like. Because yes, there are physical changes that occur as a result of HRT, these are a very small part of what it means to physically be the other sex, and these differences are plainly visible literally down to the bone.
>>71095121
>It's a disorder, i.e. something not going the way it should, not following the normal, "orderly" process.
>The question is, where do we go from this? What's the morally superior action, respecting the person and changing the body, or respecting the body and changing the person?
how do they know there is something wrong with their body? they might just be influenced by their internet echo chamber. testes make certain hormones, ovaries make certain hormones.
post-trans don't at least 80% regret it? considering that 80% of trans deaths have been suicides? shouldn't we worry about preventing their suicide instead of fulfilling their sexual fetish?
>>71095432
>Multiple studies which fine no improvement on suicide rates between HRT and HRT+SRS.
As we all know, there's nothing between alive and killing yourself in terms of happiness.
>And a somewhat girly looking dude (or masculine looking woman) is a lot less "uncanny valley" than the abomination that most trannies end up looking like.
A lot of them, at least. The thing is, "girly looking dude" is exactly what they don't want.
>>71095466
> they might just be influenced by their internet echo chamber.
I agree, that's a pretty huge problem. Trying to isolate tumblr snowflakes from actual cases is pretty hard to do, and I'd also wager that's where a lot of the regret comes from.
>>71092044
>>71092303
Idk, would getting raped and in murdered in a bathroom because you're a fucking degenerate happen?
>>71095743
>As we all know, there's nothing between alive and killing yourself in terms of happiness.
Well it's a pretty fucking good metric, when you're talking about thousands of people. What do you want, endorphin counts?
>A lot of them, at least. The thing is, "girly looking dude" is exactly what they don't want.
Well, too fucking bad, because that's exactly what they are! The idea of needing to be perceived as the opposite sex is utterly unrelated to the actual physiological nature of gender dysphoria. It's just people wrapped up in identity politics bullshit, fed coolaid from therapists.
>>71096219
>Well, too fucking bad, because that's exactly what they are!
Preach that shit
>>71096219
>Well it's a pretty fucking good metric, when you're talking about thousands of people.
Not that great. Suicide is an inherently irrational choice, and medication - particulary mind-influencing medication - can drive you towards it, even if there's no real change in "happiness".
> The idea of needing to be perceived as the opposite sex is utterly unrelated to the actual physiological nature of gender dysphoria. It's just people wrapped up in identity politics bullshit, fed coolaid from therapists.
What, exactly, would therapists stand to gain from this? Their patients wearing dresses or pants doesn't get them paid more.
I think people worry too much about them. You are constantly bombarded with the forced memeing of LGBT rights. It is worse than Milhouse on /b/.
There are more schizophrenics than there are transsexuals or lesbians but there is never any news or attention paid to them, and they are probably imprisoned more so than both groups put together. Not only that, but there have been plenty of mass shooters and bombers that have been verified to be schizophrenic and nobody is bats an eye at that statistic.
>>71096396
>Not that great. Suicide is an inherently irrational choice, and medication - particulary mind-influencing medication - can drive you towards it, even if there's no real change in "happiness".
On an individual level yes, suicide and happiness are not necessarily strictly causal. But when you're talking about thousands of people, the correlation alone is enough to make it a decent numerical measure of general happiness.
>What, exactly, would therapists stand to gain from this?
Repeated visits, books to write. Selling ideas is a very profitable business, the self help industry is enormous. But most of the therapists themselves just drank the coolaid from those who actually had something to gain from it, political and social normalization of people rejecting their biological reality. There's certainly something to be said for the fact that the bulk of both the narrative and number of patients are men.
>>71089773
You are a bad voter.
