Why won't Trump commit to ending faggot marriage like Cruz?
>>71078997
probably because it would make him unelectable. You need both the conservative and liberal vote to get 51% and frankly that position might even make him lose the moderate conservatives.
>>71078997
Because it's not a fucking big deal, you fucking statists. Let it be up to the churches, and not those corrupt government bastards.
>2016
>still needing the gubmint to register your marriages and your guns
Take the yellow Libertarian pill, anons. If you want to marry a cute femboy or a fencepost, we'd let you do it.
>>71078997
>le overstatement meme
>>71079168
>le establishment-centric national electoral strategy meme
Trump has been strangely silent on gay laws
>>71078997
nothing _forces_ me to feel anything
i alone dictate my emotions
>caring about fag marriage
This is why we hate cuckservatives.
>>71079609
He supports gays and affirmative action in several interviews.
If he seems silent it's to not lose votes from the Republican base.
>>71079514
>Take the yellow Libertarian pill
I already take one of these daily.
>>71078997
Because he probably has no desire to change the current laws or fight gay marriage, which is good. It's a bullshit issue, and more than that, the right has firmly and irrevocably LOST.
LOST LOST LOST
Gay marriage has most of the public behind it, and any attempt to fight it will be ruinous for the party responsible for the effort. Get off the subject and move on to shit that matters.
>>71080026
Degeneracy is the defining issue of our time. If we do nothing, the last true Christian Nation in the world has fallen.
>>71078997
He's too busy with important shit
>>71078997
Because it's fucking stupid and a waste of everyone's time.
Seriously, let fags play house. Remove state benefits for married couples. Make marriage a religious affair.
>>71078997
Trump's an ass, but he's right on this one. This battle is over. The only way to insulate yourself from gay marriage would be to get government out of the marriage game entirely.
You're never going to undo this one. Cruz knows this and is just pandering.
>Why won't Trump commit to ending faggot marriage like Cruz?
Because he isn't running as a Christian fundamentalist, so he doesn't need to lie to people that that's even a possibility (protip: it isn't)
Gay marriage is as dead as Roe vs. Wade. If you still think it's a viable issue, you just might be a cuckservative.
Go vote for Ted Cruz while regular people vote for Donald Trump.
>>71078997
because selling marriage shit to fags is good for business.
>>71080953
>Go vote for Ted Cruz while regular people vote for Donald Trump.
If by Trump you mean Hillary
>>71080387
America is not a "True Christian Nation", it is a nation predominantly inhabited by Christians. Your desire to fight degeneracy is a fight against symptoms rather than the illness: we can fight the left while remaining tolerant of gays, the latter being a meaningless distraction.
All the fight against gay marriage can possibly do is discredit the right, and we gain nothing through the struggle, even if we somehow win it.
>>71079609
Trump doesn't give a shit about gay marriage or abortion. He doesn't like the IDEA of abortion since he's had grandchildren, but he's not about to make any policy out of it.
I can't wait until the primaries are over so he can stop pandering to these retards and move on to the stuff that matters.
>>71081100
No, not really.
>>71081161
>I can't wait until the primaries are over so he can stop pandering to these retards and move on to the stuff that matters.
I've seen Trump's trade platform. He can't move on to stuff that matters cause he has no god damn idea how to write policy.
>>71081161
>so he can stop pandering to these retards and move on to the stuff that matters.
You're talking about the wall again aren't you...
Because it's a ridiculous thing to lose election for
>>71081541
He's probably talking about the government running health care and housing.
>>71078997
Cause he's a liberal shill and all his fans are his good little goys
Enjoy a Hillary presidency for the next 4 years now you fucking autists
>>71081541
among other things
>>71081435
Like finally giving our job creators a tax break to give them incentive to bring production back to America instead of outsourcing to foreign countries? Or providing better healthcare when insurance companies can compete nationwide instead of state by state? Or interpolating the rules of NAFTA so the US doesn't foot the majority of the bill? Or (and you already know this) deporting illegals so that even if employers continue to pay under the table, those wages will go to Americans? At WORST? And at best they'll start paying out minimum wage? Stuff like that?
>>71078997
One of his daughters is a lesbo.
>>71081878
>job creators a tax break
>>71081780
So, socialism?
Because New York Values.
>>71081780
The government already runs healthcare. Donald Trump just wants to make the market more competitive.
>>71078997
He's trying to actually win the general if he gets nominated. You aren't going to swing berniefags who are butthurt over hillary getting nominated if you go after homo marriage.
>>71082018
>So, socialism?
Trumpism by another word.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/trump-health-care-education-governments-functions/
>>71078997
Because he has an election to win and a country to fix. This god fag shit can fuck right off. Jobs fleeing the west whole sale, crony capitalists carving up the country and you pricks still talk about non-issues like fag marriage and abortions?
What's the point in fighting it? SCOTUS said the queers can marry. Why not just stand our ground on the gay issue and attack in a different direction? What's the obsession with gays? Are there not bigger issues to deal with? Federal reserve, corrupt politicians, dead democrats in Chicago voting for Democrats? Our country raped to death by illegals? Why direct so much energy against the gays?
>>71081734
And banning Muslim immigration isn't?
Republicans have thrown out all the sensible reasons to lose an election this year and are just going for broke with stupid bullshit while their party burns down and splinters around them.
Fuck,the R-Money 47% implosion; this will be even more glorious. I'm talking 1912 election tier beautiful. Even if nobody runs 3rd party the stay homes are going to tank the Republicans so hard Rommel would be impressed.
>>71081978
Rich people do create jobs though, that dinosaur must be a troglodytosaurus or a trollosoraptor.
>>71081849
>4
you mean 8, right?
>>71081978
Because the government is taxing them to the point where there's no incentive to keep production inside the states. They save a lot more money making product in foreign countries. Trump's tax policies would bring them back (if they're smart, and they are).
>>71082216
>And banning Muslim immigration isn't?
Literally only ridiculous to globalists.
>>71078997
Because,
1. It's a fucking non-issue, this shouldn't be the selling point of your campaign.
2. It's the liberal's best honeypot, be against faggots and the crybabies will run your fucking campaign into the ground with ease.
It's best to avoid this topic as much as possible.
>>71081978
How are rich people not creating jobs?
>>71082216
Gays are cute and fancy and they make money
No one likes muslims
>>71081849
>people still believe this meme
get the fuck out Cruz shill
Why the fuck do you conservatives think it's remotely okay to infringe on the private rights of citizens? You blame liberals for trying to control your wallet and your lives, but you conservatives are fucking worse. You want to decide who we can love, who we can fuck, what we can do with our daily lives. Fuck off you god damn hypocrites.
Trump isn't a member of the little cabal of Washington politicians like Cruz is, so he hasn't been indoctrinated by them. He sees the wedge issues for what they are - wedge issues - and accordingly brushes them off to focus on issues that matter.
>>71078997
Because it is a waste of time and money which are the same thing.
>>71082216
1 in 4 Muslims are okay with suicide bombings to say nothing of the "moderate" ones who support Sharia law.
I can't believe how cucked you are as an American. WAKE UP.
>>71081876
this manga was hilarious
Jews secretly running everythihng
china steamrolling the continent
would've been better without the magic gay swords
>>71081878
You have shitty opinions that have the right to be shared but shouldn't.
>>71082384
None of what you said has anything to do with Donald Trump's policies.
>>71082278
And Constitutionalists.
Our Constitution prevents government regulation of religion and prohibiting entry to our country to a particular religious group is a fairly big regulation.
>but muh foreigners outside the US don't have 5th amendment protections
The 1st amendment still denies this power to the federal government. I'd be just as illegal to ban importing Qurans and those sure as shit don't have 5th amendment protections.
>>71082215
You have a loooong way to go if you're trying to understand the mind of a boomer.
>>71082316
Gays are degenerate scum.
Because fuck christcucks anyway.
Dang this is like the 5th thread of this.
>>71079766
Thanks Doc
>>71082552
The OP asked why Trump wont commit to the issue of gay marriage, if you had any critical thinking skills at all, you could derive the response "because Trump is not an invasive conservative fucktard" from my post.
>>71082535
And yet you didn't address a single thing I said.
Quiet.
>>71082145
>Donald Trump is going to win the general election as the Republican nominee by kicking out social conservatives so that he can bring Berniefags into the tent
>>71082384
Lmao this bait.
Marriage is a social contract to reproduce, you want all the benefits with none of the work as fucking usual.
>>71082215
Because muh degeneracy.
Your average /pol/cuck is incapable of deeper thought than that
>>71082384
Kill self, degenerate.
>>71082503
What the fuck are you talking about? Magistrasomething wasnt jewish at all it was the equivalent of people with superpowers going "HEY WAIT A SECOND WE HAVE FUCKING POWERS HOW ARE WE EQUAL TO THESE MUGGLES?".
Al Sarmen werent jews either almost every character in this manga is a sandnigger.
>>71082437
1 in 1 Trumps are okay with throwing out the 1st Amendment to begin instituting religious tests in government.
I'll take the Muslims, thanks. At least they'll have fuck all political power for the foreseeable future.
>>71082668
There aren't as many conservatives in this country as conservatives pretend that they are. If this election has proved nothing else, it's proved that.
Turns out it was all smoke and mirrors all this time.
>>71082674
>Marriage is a social contract to reproduce
Maybe in fucking 100 A.D. Things change, society changes. We have already decided what marriage is, stop fucking whining about your ideas losing out to what makes sense today.
because religious fundies don't matter
>>71082660
Trump, like most Americans, doesn't give a shit about gay marriage, and I'm perfectly okay with that since it's a dead issue. That's why he hasn't addressed it.
>>71082215
very few care about it, it's a non-issue. I'm just against it cause it pisses off liberals.
>>71082600
It still doesn't change the fact that they bring lot of money and gay tourism is good business. Muslims bring nothing but destruction and despair. Greece makes desperate move to allow gays to marry so gays would go there for a honeymoon, but they won't because the place is infested with muslim scum.
How in the world is Cruz going to do away with gay marriage? The Supreme Court said it's a Constitutional right. Absent a reversal of that decision, or a Constitutional amendment, Cruz is shit out of luck.
>>71082298
because their money isn't being used to create jobs but accrue more wealth?
>>71082276
>government is taxing them to the point where there's no incentive to keep production inside the states
lowering taxes won't magically make them move their factories here and if they do robots are cheaper than people and if you are building a new factory why not make it automated to invest in future technology?
>>71082698
I find telling other people what to do and how to live their lives in the greatest nation on earth more degenerate than sucking a cock, which you should probably get to.
>>71082706
>1 in 1 Trumps are okay with throwing out the 1st Amendment to begin instituting religious tests in government.
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
>I'll take the Muslims, thanks
Cuck.
>>71078997
Because marriage shouldn't be something controlled by the goverment, it should be a contract between two or more consenting individuals to form a family unit, taking the rights and responsibilities of such contract unto themselves. Government has no business butting into the social part of it, and it should only have a say on the taxation and benefits portion of which all peoples should see equal benefits from even if they have a mental illness like being gay.
>>71082794
IIRC he wants a constitutional amendment.
Pretty sure he's just saying that for the fundies though since he would never get it, but he may actually be psychotic.
>>71082679
Get out Juden.
>>71082674
so why do hetero married couples without kids get the same benefits
>>71078997
He wants states to decide for themselves
>>71082901
Why would we need Cruz as President for that anyway? The President has no role whatsoever in the constitutional amendment process. That is 100% between the states and Congress.
He could propose that amendment right now if he wanted to. And he could do more for it in the Senate than he could in the White House.
Cruzlims are so dumb.
>>71082888
>I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
Banning Muslims. I'm talking about banning Muslims.
That is a horrific precedent. It only takes one militant atheist president for that to bite America in the ass.
>>71082801
>lowering taxes won't magically make them move their factories here and if they do robots are cheaper than people and if you are building a new factory why not make it automated to invest in future technology?
I just don't understand this. Do you want robots to replace humans in the workforce? You think all the jobs we've lost have gone to them? If so, tell me how to fix our unemployment problem. Give me any half-assed theory.
>>71082679
>>71082559
It just doesn't make sense to me. Gays are degenerate, that's fine. But all we've been doing is stepping backwards and giving ground in all directions since fucking Eisenhower. If we drop the gay issue, that's a front we no longer have to fight on and that can all be directed at an issue that actually affects the people instead of "oh, gross, gay!" And if we let up off the gay issue, the christfags can stop giving us a black eye by trying to legislate religion. The gay issue is nothing more than Jewish bait and the conservative right has bit hard.
>>71082901
He literally attended a meeting on stopping gays run by people that preached the killing of gays. How about you take a guess?
>>71082756
>pretend
by self-identification?
>If this election has proved nothing else, it's proved that.
It's proved that conservatives are split six ways to Sunday, unsurprisingly.
>>71082703
The fucking wizard people call non-wizards "goy". They keep the goy people in a state of eternal degeneracy where they fuck and eat and do nothing else. The goy people literally have their lifeforce sucked out of them by the wizards. They consider them cattle. The main wizard also has a big ass nose.
>>71082706
>1 in 1 Trumps are okay with throwing out the 1st Amendment to begin instituting religious tests in government.
are you retarded
>>71082852
>sucking a cock, which you should probably get to.
how homophobic, goy. You shouldn't say insults like that in a progressive society, you might offend someone
>>71078997
That why it's hard for me to vote for him. He'll normalize degenerate, disease spreading, mentally ill faggots, like his shill Milo.
>>71083161
Only one meeting?
I'm still leaning toward the former.
>Giving two shits and a fuck about gay marrige
>But muh degeneracy!
Who cares. Don't get married, fag. Kim Kardashian is doing more to damage the sanctimony of marriage then gays will.
>>71083125
>Do you want robots to replace humans in the workforce?
yes
>You think all the jobs we've lost have gone to them?
not all but most
>how to fix our unemployment problem
some post-human utopian star trek nonsense
>>71083272
Are you?
>>71083316
Who cares? We live in the greatest nation on earth, one built on tolerance. Tolerate others and expect tolerance in return, or GTFO.
>>71083020
>Banning Muslims. I'm talking about banning Muslims.
This isn't some radical concept. Barack Obama instituted a six month ban on Iraqi refugees in 2011 after two known terrorists slipped through the border. Iraq is at least (AT LEAST) 95% Muslim. Trump is just calling it what it is.
And it's only temporary, brah. Ask European natives how they're making out with those refugees in the meantime. Why are you against a more comprehensive vetting process?
>>71078997
The jews fucked even the church's position on this. I odn't expect politicians to fix what the church won't stand against.
>>71083194
Nope. See, this is how you've gotten away with the lie for so long. "Conservative" as a label is just the default American right-wing label. Most Americans, if they lean right, just slap that label on, even if a better label fits. Many - literally millions - of the people calling themselves "conservatives" are just nationalists and populists. We saw this down here in the south. We've never been terribly conservative in the true sense. We're populists and nationalists. We call ourselves conservatives because, well, it's easier, and that's just the word everybody uses these days for the American right.
You've been getting away with a big scam for a while now. I am happy that it is crumbling before your eyes. You deserve it. You're traitors, after all.
>>71078997
Because when it comes to domestic affairs, the president is just some powerless pen jockey sitting in the White House. What the fuck does Cruz plan on doing to overturn a Supreme Court decision?
>>71083161
>Queer Voices Editor-at-Large, The Huffington Post
>Queer Voices
>The Huffington Post
Discarded.
>>71083372
just look at your sentence and try to explain it in a rational way
>1 in 1 Trumps are okay with throwing out the 1st Amendment to begin instituting religious tests in government.
go ahead
>>71083341
>Be mentally ill, diseased, and degenerate
>Spread disease to other degenerates such as myself
>Lifespan of degenerates become 45
Self correcting problem.
>>71083366
>this post
Then what the fuck do you care about jobs? You are clearly a NEET.
Fuck off with any political opinion you have.
Trump is not some redpilled nazi hero
he just doesn't like illegals and muslims
I don't care if fags wanna marry, but the fact that they can adopt kids pisses me off.
>>71083514
>he just doesn't like illegals and muslims
and not afraid to do something about it
>>71083341
so you want the government to influence religion and social issues?
>>71083385
>one built on tolerance
>tolerate
>tolerance
How much kool aid does one have to drink to get to this point? Shouldn't you be prepping your bull and tending to your wife's son right now?
>>71083510
>Then what the fuck do you care about jobs?
Other people make the shit I use.
>>71078997
>gay marriage is bad and abortion is wrong!
>you can still be alpha and be a cuckold
>>71079766
I took one and ended up driving on shitty roads
>>71083596
That's good
>>71082794
He's not, and is not attempting to. He is for for
>>71083161
He literally attended a meeting of gay people.
>>71083573
I never really got the adoption argument.
Even if you think, a man and a woman best raise a child, which is only logical to me, surely a man and a man or even the more worrying, a woman and a woman can raise a child better than an orphanage can?
>>71083611
You're a moron.
Just please leave /pol/
>>71083389
>This isn't some radical concept
Yes it is, nationality and religion are not comparable. We treat nations and their citizens differently (for instance, we're quite partial to Americans), we aren't supposed to pull that shit with religions for obvious reasons (what with the no state religion and all that jazz).
Iraq is 95% Muslim but it isn't 95% of Muslims. I hope you know the difference.
>And it's only temporary, brah
Oh, I'm sorry, how would you feel about a temporary ban on gun sales? How about a temporary ban on international travel for Americans? A temporary ban on marriage?
I mean it's only until we "figure out what is going on", that could be 9 months, 3 years, eventually.
>>71082600
Mudslimes are worse in every conceivable way.
>>71083779
Sure they are, doesn't mean fags aren't degenerate.
I'm a republican through and through, but I honestly don't get you fucking tards that are against gay marriage. Let em do their thing.
Long after we're all dead, gays are still gonna be fucking each other's assholes, whether it's in the closet or not.
Christ it's motherfuckers like you all that give us repubs a bad name and holds back the true economic potential we preach. Go form your own medieval party if you're so offended by dudes/chicks gettin it on with each other.
>>71083764
>Defending the "rights" of your enemies when they never return the favor
The epitome of a cuck.
>>71083745
I find your views fascinating and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
>>71083451
>1 in 1 Trumps
Donald Trump
>are okay with
is okay with
>throwing out the 1st Amendment
disregarding Constitutional law
>to begin instituting religious tests in government
to begin having the government test international travelers for their religion to prevent Muslims from entering the country.
I'm sorry you're retarded.
>>71083426
The words conservative and progressive are so vague as to be almost completely useless. It boils down to 'let's change things' vs 'things are ok as they are', with the handy 'let's change things back to how they were before you changed them' which usually gets called reactionary.
The whole thing is just fucking ridiculous. That makes Mussolini a Progressive and Stalin a social Conservative. Technically it makes HItler a progressive as well because his ideal Prussia never actually existed.
The words need to go away imo.
>>71083742
I would agree, but with all things being equal, I would want a state adoption agency to favor placing a child into a traditional marriage.....they now have to say that they are entirely equal which everybody except the far left knows is untrue.
>>71083426
>"conservative" doesn't mean anything, yet "liberal" is this case does as a default American left-wing label
Yawn.
>>71083836
Never said that they aren't.
I'd still tolerate homos over mudslimes any fucking day.
The sooner every single muslim is wiped off the face of the earth, the better.
>>71083608
Got me there bro, nice shitposting.
>>71083868
You can't defend your own rights without defending those of your enemies. That's what makes them rights.
And if you won't defend your own rights, you're just a slave.
Let's see how long you stay uncucked as a slave.
>>71083873
International travelers aren't citizens.
They want cake so bad they will create lot of bakeries and more jobs
>>71083764
Mudslimes do not deserve any rights or humane treatment. The only thing they deserve is a bullet to the head.
Whining about how Trump is gonna ban them just showcases what a pathetic cuck you are.
>>71083907
I agree. Especially since the cuckservatives have turned the word "conservative" into a weapon. That seems to be its only function now. They use it as a whip to keep voters in line. They created a false dichotomy of liberal-conservative, and if they threaten to excommunicate you from the hallowed "conservative movement" for being too impure, they try to make you feel like a "liberal" by default, as if that's the only other options.
It's just treason, in my view.
>>71084081
I don't recall saying they were.
When did the 1st Amendment say it applies to anything but government?
You remember the 1st Amendment, right? It's that shit that says government has to lay the fuck off religions.
>>71084106
Thanks but I'd rather not let a hairy orange yank the 1st amendment out from under me.
>>71083929
I don't care if it means anything or not. I'm inclined to think it doesn't, because you "conservatives" aren't very conservative at all. You're just liberals from 30, 40 years ago that call yourselves conservatives today. You perpetually smuggle left-wing values into your shitty little treason movement.
But what matters is that many of the people calling themselves conservative, aren't. They do it because it's synonymous with 'right-wing' and nothing more.
Do you really think the average Republican voter is sitting around reading Burke and National Review, and giving any significant thought to what it means to be philosophically conservative? Of course not. They just see the people calling themselves "conservative" as the only ones even sort of fighting the left. And even that perception is being smashed this election, as we watch you guys team up with progressives each and every day to stop the nationalist that really speaks for us.
The house of cards is coming down. It's wonderful to watch.
>>71078997
Because taking sides on divisive social identity issues will cost him votes. His platform is "Make America great again" which is broad and appealing.
Learn the power of political rhetoric, son.
>>71084248
Islam is a hostile ideology, that any sane human would oppose, you muslim loving scum.
Trump is in the right in wanting to ban those fucking subhumans.
>>71084159
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
Where does it say anything about applying to non-citizens?
>>71084071
This is Jewish snivelry.
>>71084117
Democratic politics are pretty much always this retarded though. In countries like US with your representatives you see the circuses that your elections are, in countries like Switzerland with direct democracy you see some cantons pretending it's 1830 and others pretending they aren't even Swiss, people should just not be allowed to have any say in government at all.
Which gives us monarchy, which has if anything almost a worse track record, though debatable.
Essentially there is no answer, and the only good govermnents are usually just riding some wave of prosperity due to resources or technological innovation that would be almost impossible to fuck up.
>>71083764
>Iraq is 95% Muslim but it isn't 95% of Muslims. I hope you know the difference.
I guess the only thing I can say about this is that you need to keep up with what's going on in the middle east. Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya - these aren't exactly Christian strongholds. ISIS is virtually depleted, but as long as they exist, the US needs to keep their guard up. These people literally want to kill as many of us as they can, and that's a fact.
>Oh, I'm sorry, how would you feel about a temporary ban on gun sales?
That's stupid since it would never happen, but I do support Barack Obama's legislation. I definitely agree that America needs stricter gun laws
>How about a temporary ban on international travel for Americans?
I don't care.
>A temporary ban on marriage?
That's stupid.
>I mean it's only until we "figure out what is going on", that could be 9 months, 3 years, eventually.
Tell me radical Islam is not a problem. Just tell me that.
>>71084385
It applies to GOVERNMENT.
>Where does it say anything about applying to non-citizens?
It doesn't. The 1st amendment says fuck all about non-citizens passing laws which infringe on freedom of religion.
Mostly cause they can't pass laws.
>>71083921
Ah, I get that for sure.
Kids need a mother and a father.
>>71084363
>tearing down the Constitution
>in the right
No
Isn't it interesting how a thread about gay marriage always devolves into a debate about Islam?
>>71084508
>Tell me radical Islam is not a problem.
Banning radicals from entering the country would be fine and Constitutional.
How about we do that.
Or focus the ban on countries where ISIS is actually god damn active.
>>71084601
Banning mudslimes is not infringing on any people's religion, seeing how mudslimes aren't people, and their "faith" is a cancerous ideology that deserves to be annihilated.
>>71084562
Correct. It applies to Congress. The law wouldn't have anything to do with exercise of religion, it would have to do with immigration into the country. They are free to exercise their religion, but we are free to not let them in. It doesn't say we can't discriminate based on religion just that we can't prevent the exercise of it.
>>71084601
Your constitution only applies to American citizens retard
>>71084735
He's not banning muslims, he's banning immigration from terrorist countries and making a muslim database.
>>71084735
Don't you have some rotten fish you could be choking on?
>>71084765
>It doesn't say we can't discriminate based on religion
SCOTUS has expanded interpretation of it to mean exactly that.
It's called separation of church and state. The US government doesn't get to tell the Islamic community as a whole where it can and can't go.
>>71084909
Yes it does. We have absolute control over our borders. Absolute means what it says. Absolute.
>>71078997
He doesn't need to pander to homophobes when he can just draw people in by being 'Trump'.
>>71084909
You don't even get your insults right, you mudslime loving cuck.
Here's a tip.
>>71084326
>You perpetually smuggle left-wing values into your shitty little treason movement.
This, after stemming from a comment I made that Trump's strategy is to win by appealing to Bernfags, and another (though not linked within the chain) mocking Trump's acceptance to idea of government run health-care, housing & education. That's rich.
>>71084578
The problem with the right on many of these social issues is that the people spearheading the debate were largely saying "scripture says __________".
The secular position on this sort of thing is nuanced and does not fit within the confines of twitter and bumper stickers.
>>71084705
>Or focus the ban on countries where ISIS is actually god damn active
LIke Iran? Iraq? Libya? Syria? Britain? Sweden? Germany?
Their cancer is spreading beyond the ME. You cannot tell me it's insanity to institute a moratorium on a religion where 1 in 4 of them support suicide bombings.
>>71078997
It's called priorities, you saw him fumble on abortion before backtracking and saying he believes in the current law. These fringe social issues are not why he got into this so he should avoid them and focus on important issues that effect everyone
>>71084909
We aren't discriminating against the religion of Islam because it is a religion, we are discriminating it because it openly promotes the institution of a new government and law to supplant the old one, which is promoting treason.
>>71084773
>Your constitution only applies to American citizens retard
Actually it applies to anyone and anything on US soil (excluding territories except at the behest of Congress and excluding foreign diplomats due to diplomatic immunity), American citizens and nationals abroad, and all levels of government.
But sure, lecture me on what my Constitution applies to you fucking retard.
>>71084994
We're not claiming to be conservatives. Jeez Louise, you guys really don't get it yet.
>>71084965
>immigration law is the supreme law of the land, not the constitution
someone alert the legal scholars, they've been wrong all along!
>>71085073
This guy knows.
>>71085073
This.
Donald Trump simply doesn't care about abortion or gay marriage.
>>71085221
>thinking it's a breach of the constitution to bar immigration, especially from terrorist nations.
>>71085144
They aren't on US soil until they enter the country though.
>>71085034
Very good point to be honest. People like elrato going up on stage alongside 'KILL ALL THE GAYS FOR GOD' people will never be able to sway anyone, just reaffirm those who already believe that.
>pic captcha
>shill canyon
>>71085372
>>71085144
Explain to me what right is being denied to foreign Muslims by a Muslim immigration ban.
What right? Certainly not the "free exercise" of their "religion" (it's not even a religion, but let's pretend it is). They can practice their horrible shitshow all the live long day. In fact, being denied a visa to America changes their life in zero ways. It just keeps the status quo. Their life goes on totally uninterrupted.
What right is being infringed?
>>71079520
>legreentext meme
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>>71078997
>still caring about homosexual marriage
I am a bit more concerned about islam and immigration.
I love this thread.
>>71085046
>You cannot tell me it's insanity to institute a moratorium on a religion where 1 in 4 of them support suicide bombings.
All suicide bombings or just suicide bombings as a concept?
>>71085517
How is supporting suicide bombings any sort of "concept?"
You either support them or you don't.
>>71085326
Right, but the part that says "You can't govern religion" applies to GOVERNMENT.
>>71085437
>Explain to me what right is being denied to foreign Muslims by a Muslim immigration ban.
None whatsoever. They have no 5th amendment due process right to not be treated differently by the federal government for their religion until they get on US soil.
This is all about the 1st amendment's restriction on government action against a particular religion.
Learn your Constitution.
>>71085206
No, I get that you aren't. NatSocs can't be as they are without their precious socialism.
Though if anything is going to come down like a house of cards this cycle, it'll be the expectations of them awaiting the strategy I mocked earlier ever being given the go-ahead for the good ole' college try. It's not going to happen, bub.
>>71085740
It's called context.
>suicide bombings can be justified
vs
>all suicide bombings are great
>>71085775
The First Amendment says,
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
Banning Muslims does not establish a religion, nor does it prohibit foreign Muslims from practicing their "religion".
I think you're the one that needs to read the Constitution, commie.
>>71085953
>nor does it prohibit foreign Muslims from practicing their "religion".
Right cause missionary work is totally not part of Islam.
Oh wait, that's wrong.
>>71085825
I'm not a natsoc. I'm just a nationalist. The economic system that is used is up to the people. Whatever they want is best.
I'm a nationalist because I put people before abstractions. You put abstractions before people, which is why you're a cuck. You'd watch your people be pushed off the very continent their ancestors won if it furthered your abstract 'values'.
>>71085945
>It's called context.
Not really, dude.
You're either okay with suicide bombings or you're not. Muslims are the only ones who do this shit. I am absolutely not okay with them.
>>71078997
Because it's an autistic non-issue like abortion. The focus should be on establishing nationalism, not trying to get everyone to conform to christfaggotry.
If you want more christian power in your state that can come later, there are bigger fish to fry at the moment.
>>71086034
They can be missionaries, just not here. There is no part of their fake "religion" that says they must proselytize in America.
>>71086116
>I am absolutely not okay with them.
So what you're saying is you were rooting for the Asteroid?
Cause that shit's going to hit the earth if Bruce Willis doesn't blow his ass up.
Why the fuck do you hate humanity?
>>71086034
Conquest is also part of their religion. Does that mean we should let them conquer us?
>>71083129
>leglislate religion
banning gay marriage has little to do with religion.
>>71086211
You just went full austist on me.
Movies are not real life.
>>71085046
>Aligns himself with the party that proposes to uphold the constitution
>Want's to disenfranchise an entire religion.
>>71080387
You must be one of those christcucks that says the only reason the Roman empire fell was because of fags.
>>71086253
Or rather does that mean the government couldn't go to war against them if they were intent on conquering us?
>>71083742
>Even if you think, a man and a woman best raise a child
But I don't.
>>71086296
If that religion is Islam, yes, I couldn't give a shit about "disenfranchising" them.
Cancer religion. Just ask Europe!
i actually like trump because he doesn't seem to give a shit about stuff like faggot marriage and abortion. As long as he keeps trannies in their proper bathrooms he's cool with me
t. independent that hates everyone but trump and has had to have a child aborted before
>>71086193
>There is no part of their fake "religion" that says they must proselytize in America.
Quran, Sura 3 (Al-Imran), ayah 104
Unless you're going to argue that America is evil incarnate.
>>71086463
>And there may spring from you a nation who invite to goodness, and enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency. Such are they who are successful.
I don't see how this supports your point that Islam must prostlytize in America. And even if it did (it does not) they don't get to dictate our constitutional interpretations in this way.
>Forcing me to read that mud filth
Disgusting.
Also, I would point out that what Muslims view as evil is actually good, and what Muslims view as good, is actually evil.
>>71086402
Love it when the non-American fascists wrap themselves our in flag and pretend to be one of us. Fuck off back to Europe if you want to tell others what to believe in and what to do with their lives. In America, I can believe whatever the fuck I want. And I believe you're a fuckin retard.
>>71086253
No, religion also has to stay out of government under the 1st.
Getting conquered would be the opposite of that.
>>71086367
>Or rather does that mean the government couldn't go to war against them if they were intent on conquering us?
If the entirety of Islam as an organization declared war on us, no, the USA would not be unable to declare war on Islam.
But that'd be a neat trick since it isn't a centralized religion.
>>71086666
>I can believe whatever I want
>So go back to Europe for believing what you want
Cuck.
>>71086666
just because america has been a hotbed for communist nonsense for the past 50 years doesn't mean you have 'american values'
>>71078997
Because that's the responsibility of the states.
>tfw we need trump to win and kill off the republican party because these fucking idiots destroy themsleves every election going after retarded unwinnable social issues like gay marriage, instead of focusing on the REAL issues
The end of the current establishment/republican party couldnt end any faster. I'm sick of liberals winning because conservatives are too fucking retarded to realize that these issues are dead and over and they are shooting themselves in the foot continuing this line of thought
>>71086666
lol faggot
meet me somewhere
>>71083655
You should have paid for the turnpikes, poorfag.
>>71086630
>I don't see how this supports your point that Islam must prostlytize in America.
Invite in this context means invite into Islam.
>And even if it did (it does not) they don't get to dictate our constitutional interpretations in this way.
M8, banning Muslims entry to the US is de facto regulating Islam which is against the 1st and you'd have to be deliberately playing the retard to say otherwise so their Constitutional interpretations might not matter, but when the identical rational interpretations certainly do.
>>71086865
>any hope you had in living in a decent country is dead
>we need to fight for REAL issues
and what real issues you moron?
>>71086865
This
>>71086963
>Invite in this context means invite into Islam.
They don't need to physically come here to invite us into their pigshit cult. They can spread their filth on the internet for that, like you're doing now.
>M8, banning Muslims entry to the US is de facto regulating Islam which is against the 1st
No it isn't. No religion is established and no exercise of religion is prohibited by it. Try again, cuck.
>>71086967
>immigration
>jobs
>trade
>defense
>debt/deficit
>political corruption
>2nd amendment
Theres a million things more important than whether two gay dudes want to get together and have the same rights as heterosexual couples. Are you seriously insinuating that you care about two dudes sucking eachothers dicks than illegal immigrants ruining our future economy?
>>71082762
Yeah man. People don't need to reproduce anymore. Now we just make them at the store!
I think Trump knows true nature of America. After he is elected I expect him to be far more liberal about hedonist matters. Fuck illegals though for sure.
>>71080387
>
America is a pagan nation.
>>71087185
yes, because all of these things destroy the foundation of society.
It doesn't matter if we have any of that if society is pointless and we're turning into brazil.
>>71082762
>stop fucking whining about your ideas losing out to what makes sense today.
It doesn't make sense. Modern society is full of illogical nonsense because it is not a natural product. It is the result of conditioning and endless indoctrination in schools, the media, and through official government propaganda.
The West needs to burn so we can build something new in its ashes.
>>71080387
How is the moral struggle going? Enjoying the pain of not doing what you really want to do?
America is far too gone and is the Mystery Babylon written of in the book of revelation. Take your degenerate talk elsewhere until you realize the truth and the truth will set you free. F
>>71087330
the foundation of society is a stable marriage. Having two caring parents who discipline and work together for their children is the best thing for a society.
>>71087615
The "foundation of society" is a fucking lie. Polygamy is the one thing the Mormons actually get right.
>>71087615
and gay marriage is close to the last step of destroying the institution of marriage
>>71087898
how? that doesnt even make sense
>>71087973
it's essentially meaningless.
>>71088043
why is it meaningless if gay people are part of it?
>>71087898
The sanctity of marriage was lost because some really fucking stupid people were too stubborn allow 'civil unions' with full marriage benefits like they should have.
The SCOTUS has spoken and it is law and is over and done now.
>>71086967
spoken like a true american! god bless
>>71086111
Oh, so you're simply one of those modernistic southern racists/nationalst who wants to protect western civilization from the muslim scourge, but in the same breath is gleeful over the prospects of seeing that supposed Christian conservatism you view as opposing you otherwise weakened. Yes, I do get you.
>>71082316
>Gays are cute and fancy and they make money
Damn fucking straight I do.
>>71078997
Because over 70% of Americans don't give a shit about gay marriage.
Only the most religious bible thumpers care, and those are the people who are voting for Cruz.
>>71087761
Polygamy is a despised and illegal in most places around the world (nothing to do with any particular denomination or even religion) for the negative effects it has overall. What do you suppose happens when you tie down all the available women in marriages of just a few males in your society? Your society becomes chock full of unwed, unrestrained young males getting into all manner of trouble.
>>71079754
>, "a well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. I've said, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black because I believe they have an actual advantage."
Seems to me like he's clearly mocking it
>>71080387
We are not a theocracy anon.
The government need not be a part of marriage, gay or strait.
>>71079766
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