So how come the ceos are making 300x more than their average employee? Why is it that they cant take a pay cut to raise wages all across the board? Do they really need to make 18 million a year?
>>71060599
Dumb gop members will tell you that your grateful to even have a job working for near slave wages.
>>71060599
I dont understand why the minimum wage isn't 15 the ceos can afford it. They are being greedy and keeping all of there wealth at the top and giving us nothing.
What would they do if we all stopped working for them?
>>71061017
We could bring any company to their knees with a boycott.
>>71060599
>occupy democrats
fuck off bernout
>>71060599
I would post the number of people each place employees and let them do the math, but it wouldn't be worth it.
>>71060599
>I failed high school math the post
>>71060599
>Do they really need to make 18 million a year?
Yeah, because if they don't they'll go elsewhere.
>>71061115
Why would you not vote for berine? Aren't you tired of working for slave wages. Doesn't it piss you off that everytime you get a tiny 2% raise. Inflation happens?
>>71060599
>cut ceo wages by 100%
>wageslaves get payed $.03 an hour more
Amazing.
>>71060692
If you don't like the wage then don't work there you dumb fucking cunt.
libs all want skilled workers pay for flipping burgers and will spend more time protesting when everyone else will just look for a better job.
Retarded /pol/ posters don't realize that the real money CEOs make is in bonuses and stock options, so they'll spout endless memes about "split 4,000 a million ways it's not even a penny raise".
>>71060599
It is funny how even within this statement the slave mentality of the herd is concealed. The pebble doesn't compare itself to the King, but rather to his most trusted General. They don't care or know that the owner of their company or respectively the members in the board of directors make 600x as much as them. They care only about the fact that the CEO makes 300x as much as them. It's a nuisance because he is the highest vasall of the owner - the King's most trusted General. And it should be them, not him.
This is the truth behind the wage gap debate. Only amplified and disgruntled slave mentality of the herd animal.
Let's assume we paid them out of the CEO's pockets.
Let's do chipotle for example.
53,000 employees.
Let's be conservative and assume only 10,000 of those employees are making minimum wage.
15-7.25 = 7.75 increase in minimum wage.
13,489 / 7.75 (money to make up for each employee) = 1,740.
If we took away the singe CEO's paycheck it would only cover 1,740 of the 10,000 of the current minimum wage employees.
That means it would take the x8 of the CEO's salary to cover those costs.
And on top of that, I doubt even half of chipotles employees are making over $15 an hour.
This is stupid. Occupy Democrats is stupid.
Here, have a derail.
>>71061210
Are you joking. If the ceo made only 9 million a year. Which is still rich as fuck. Thats 9 extra million dollars your employees can share. Every employee could get a 3 dollar raise with that alone. Then do they to everyone that works at the top of the company and boom everyone has a higher fair wage.
>>71061250
The minimum wage should be abolished. if you're fucking stupid enough to work for $2/hour then no one should have to protect you, you're already retarded.
>>71061303
kek
>>71060599
Your Jewish master is making millions while only paying you a few cents per shill.
Why do you still work for Jews?
>>71060599
I'll bet you're one of those who insists you could do the job and all muh CEO's do is play golf and shuffle paper like le funneh offfice show tells you.
>>71061468
Sound mad. Are you mad because bbc keep talking your gfs?
>>71060599
A CEO is in charge of running the whole company, whereas the employee assembles sandwiches. One of these things is not like the others.
>>71060599
A while back US Law started mandating that companies publish what the CEO is paid. After that, CEO pay started to become seen as a measure of how confident the comany was in the CEO's ability. How good a job the were expected to do.
This created a perverse incentive where it became important to have a well paid CEO or else stock prices would suffer. No one wanted to be seen paying way below the industry average, so all the companies with below average CEO pay doled out pay raises. This of course, drastically raises the average, putting a lot of new companies below it. repeat.
>>71061468
Persharterious Johnson get
>>71061474
You're embarrassing yourself
Good point OP! Let's raise it to 15, he'll let's raise it to 20. All the small business owners will go out of business and more people will shop at wallmart and other big business stores and we will be right back to where we started. You crying you only make 20 an hour, that milk costs 10 bucks, that there are no small business's anymore and that the CEO makes millions
>>71061455
>the king the pebble and his general
brilliant. sounds like a jewish myth or something.
>>71060599
>>71061017
The ceos don't pay the other employees you dumb fucking faggot.
>>71061250
>implying that a $15/hr minimum wage won't result in outrageous inflation
This is probably b8 but anyways
I just turned 18 a month ago, I had been working at Wendy's last year and was happy with it. I just finished High school and I just got hired for a job that pays 14/hour with 21/hour overtime. You have to be near brain dead, a felon, or a junkie to not be able to move up in life. I pray the minimum wage never goes up because the burger flipper will be making as much as I do even though it's ridiculously easy to work in fast food. And I used to work 40 hours a week while going to school and being on varsity soccer.
>>71061474
please stop this
this is some terrible shitposting
>>71060599
>>71061017
>implying every employer is a billionaire
>>71061474
>Every employee could get a 3 dollar raise with that alone
That's a $3/year wage increase. Yippee
>>71061561
Well jews are ok because they told us that black men all have big dicks. My wife was not being satisfied at all until i allowed her to fuck black men. Now she is the happiest person on earth.
>>71061149
This desu
>>71060599
Ok, so Chipotle has 45,200 eployees, let's divide $13,489 by 45,200.
30 cents.
#feelthebern
>>71061601
Sound delusional. Not happy flipping burgers?
>>71060599
And the CEO deserves every cent of that money.
>>71061468
nigga
>>71061474
That wont equal a 3 dollar an hour wage increase. Try again.
>>71061770
>Laferquel Carter
>it'll kill small business!
More money in the economy means more to spend at small businesses.
>>71060599
>here's proof
All I see is a misleading claim with no math to back it up
>>71061601
I'm not mad, Daquoicious Smith.
Starbucks has ~182k full time employees (not counting the large number of part time)
If you eliminated ceo pay entirely you would end up with $0.0565 per employee. The reason a ceo can earn that much is because his corporate strategy makes the entire company work more efficiently. So while he is earning about 6 cents per employee an hour, he creates more than 6 cents per employee an hour in value for the company
>>71060599
How do they calculate the pay? Forty hour weeks?
Seems like top executives would be on call 24/7
>>71061474
if you're serious than you libs are more braindead than I thought.
>>71061017
What number will you push for once you get the 15? Will it be 20? 25?
>>71061730
Thats a 3 dollar increase without thr prices of anything going up. Which means i can buy more rubbers for my wife to fuck bbcs
>>71060599
>>71060692
>>71061017
Fuck $15/hour, why not $20 or $30?
CEOs obviously can afford it
>>71060599
>Think corporations can't afford a minimum wage of $15 an hour
No, but I do think local business can't.
S T R A W M A N
>>71061530
>I don't know how labor competition works
>>71061250
If you're working for slave wages you're doing it wrong.
>b-b-but no jobs!
15/hr won't solve this. We need more people learning trade skills and starting successful businesses that create jobs, not more people coddled into working as cashiers and fry cooks, which are fields that are already being phased out.
Also
>muh CEOs make a billion dollars an hour
most of that money is in stocks and locked up in transactions
>>71060599
>Implying every business owner makes that much
Case in point: only the largest multinational corporations who can already afford those CEO salaries can afford a $15 minimum wage. Small and/or non-colusitory businesses will buckle or leave the country. Congrats you just strengthed a series of monopolized industries with senseless red tape and drove out all their potential competition
>>71061692
>I pray the minimum wage never goes up because the burger flipper will be making as much as I do
White men, everyone
>>71061615
Funny how every time lefties get something they think they want it only makes the problems they are supposedly against worse
>>71061468
CEO's often "work" 80+ hour weeks , so comparing the $/hr isn't going to make sense
>>71061601
I am mad about that. Blacks get all hei girls and i cant get shit. The average black man fucks twice as many women as we do.
>>71061426
>mfw they can't even think of a meme reply
bazoozles
>>71061871
The people making minimum wage are most likely going to still be shopping at Wal-Mart and eating at Applebee's.
>>71061995
>doesnt realize that if minium wage increases, so will products because they can earn money
american education everyone
>>71061734
I hate the jews for that actually. I lost all my gfs over the years to bbc males. It's pretty unfair actually. They are the best at sex and they have the biggest cocks. They make the women squirt like crazy and we debate over whether the gspot even exists.
>>71061468
I want be be a king too
>>71061468
Fuck, that graphic is spot on. I went to school with a DaMarcus Jackson.
>>71060599
Because their plans, leadership and the business decisions the CEO makes earns 300x more money for the company than the average employee.
Also, Chipotle (being the highest on there) has 53090 employees. If the CEO reduced his hourly rate to $15 an hour, they could afford to give everyone else a whopping $0.25 raise I'm sure that will solve their financial problems and leave them much better off.
>>71060599
You twats think every business is making billions. Raising the minimum wage wouldn't hurt the big companies, it would crush all the small businesses making it harder to compete against the evil ceo.
>>71061972
apparently you don't because minimum wage defeats competition.
>>71062167
I was pointing out his DISGUSTING SELF-ABSORPTION
>>71061911
If the economy actually got bad enough to need $20/h just to live in certain areas then yes of course we would push for that. We just want a living wage, that's it.
>>71061017
You should not expect to live off of burger-flipping. Jobs like that are a springboard to find better jobs. If you cant do any better than that you deserve minimum. Unskilled labor doesnt deserve more than the current minimum.
>>71062009
Doesn't matter. Even if you count all the bonuses and actual income per year, it's still not enough to raise all employee wages by even $1.
I'm pulling this number of my ass of course, but I'm probably right.
>>71061871
This makes no sense. It is the same as just printing money, you haven't added additional value, only inflated everything including prices. Unless business owners decide to change their profit margins, the price of everything will rise because the math that makes the business work must stay the same.
>>71061455
>Being this pretentious on a shitty /pol/ thread.
>>71062167
>he thinks MMOs that ad some 0s spots to all of the health damage and mana actually makes it so you deal more relative damage etc instead of it being the same bit with higher numbers
>implying min wage laws don't do what they've always been designed to do since their inception and that is to cause an acute rise in unemployment in low skilled workers.
>>71062187
Yea only black men can hit a woman's g spot. Thats why i only let bbc men fuck my wife. I want to cum actually not to be bored during sex.
>>71061468
tymalkwon carter get
>>71061303
KEK
>>71062311
Then fix the currency instead of being AIDS skrillex pushing for a "living wage" every 2 months until we have a 200$/min wage.
Come on.
>>71061017
They'd just get another dumb nigger to do the job. Why do you think they pay you so little? It's because your job is so trivial that they don't have any incentive to keep you.
>>71060599
With the salary the CEOs make they could only give a few hundred workers 15/h
>>71061995
should be finished with minimum wages before you get out of high school
>>71062604
/thread
Get over it commie fags.
Running through streets with cute little signs won't help you poorfags.
Large corporations can afford 15$ minimum wage, but they employ only 52% of all workers. Rest is employed by small/medium firms. They will be wrecked.
That will fuck up your economy pretty baldy.
Do it fucktards. :D
Janusze ekonomii. lol
>>71060692
Only post white women, we come here for deprogramming not to contribute to the agenda.
Jk, post Muslim bitches
>>71062604
Well must blacks are not dumb. I let them fuck my wife all the time and most of them are actually pretty bright. As well as hung
>>71060599
Fuck of shill
> Nothing more need be said we have seen this a million times
> If they were a genuine anon they would have refined their point.
> They have made their $0.50
>>71062757
I thought You came here to talk about how great bbcs are sex?
>tfw people only worried about minimum wage cucks
>tfw I make $15 an hour now as a state worker and the Union can at most get us a 2% raise this year
>tfw I actually do something half useful for the money
>>71062502
take your cuck bait somewhere else
>>71060599
CEOs don''t get paid by the hour and should never be compared that way ever.
>>71062786
>Well must blacks are not dumb.
>>71061955
Go on then. Become a successful CEO and start paying your employees well.
I'm sure all these CEOs are just nasty people :^(((
>>71062786
>most blacks are not dumb
>>71060599
Because the average CEO is 300x more important than the average burger-flipper. They answer to a board of directors and shareholders and make million dollar decisions every day. Meanwhile, the kid at Wendy's can't even get my order right.
>>71062913
Its not bait if its true! Blacks are amazing at sex. They are the most aggressive in the bedroom and they have huge cocks. Why else is cuckholding on the rise? Why else are so many women asking for their husbands to loan them out to bbc?
>>71061955
Why not 1,000 dollars per hour. why stop there. We should pay everyone 1 million dollars for free. we can just print it no problem not like there's anything called inflation.
>>71060599
The best part about this is that there is literally nothing that can stop liberals from going to Chipotle or Starbucks.
>>71062502
>Can't even hit your wife's g-spot
Wow. Might aswell just kill yourself now man.
>>71063371
*working for
>>71060599
Because math.
>>71062913
Well everyone knows that blacks are amazing in the sack. I just wish women stop thinking blacks are the only option. I mean like 40% of white women have tired bbc. And even when they go back to whites. They will still miss the best sex they ever had and maybe even cheat to get more bbc.
>>71063180
This is what's wrong with liberal thinking.
Instead of actually fixing something yourself, like your sex life, you'd rather someone else do it for you.
"We need to raise taxes on the rich cause I'm too stupid to find a real job."
>>71063031
>>71063094
>he didn't read past that point
it was a joke, morons
>>71063524
Actually most whites don't have cocks large enough to hit the g spot. Which is why so many doctors are saying that the g spot isn't real. But any whores will tell you that it is real because that is wear squirt comes from. Which is why so many porn stars squirt when they fuck bbc.
>>71060599
>Average americans like the idea of a CEO making a hundred times the minimum wage because one day, they know, they will become CEO
I like you attitude, burgers. Don't fall for the communist meme.
P.s. Why the hell is Sanders doing in Vatican city?
>>71064016
>tree fitty has been deposited into your big black dingus account
>>71063580
Taxing the rich can easly be done. But making your wife cum isnt. Most women have said that they have never had an orgams unless they fuck bbc. Also so many women cheat on white men so much because the sex isn't any good
I guess that this commie's supporters are just jelly, that end goal of their carrer is burger flipping, not managing shit. Sad.
>>71064170
Mad because what im saying is true
>>71060692
Don't work and starve faggot. I'd be fine with that.
>>71061995
No you just don't hold yourself to a high standard. Very low energy.
>>71063580
>why make something bad illegal, just do it yourself!
>>71062866
Why talk about BBC when you can suck one? Tryone selling crack on the corner is ready for you.
Isn't this fun?
How does it feel to be so dumb you can't understand how raising the minimum wage will have aise the cost of everything.
Are you kidding me? You're a a fucking white male?
>>71064189
where are you getting all these "most"-s and "so manys"
>>71060599
Quite honestly if you're so damn upset about making less than $15/hour, go out and acquire a skill set that would warrant $15+/hour.
Don't think for a hot second that anyone worth a damn gives two shit about people who are, by definition, easily replaceable.
If you're unskilled labor then you are either
>a teenager
>a complete failure
>an illegal alien
Invest more in yourself and employers will invest more in you. Pure and simple.
>>71064347
whats bad and what should be made illegal?
>>71060599
Lets see talking the highest one
13,489/15 = 899.8
You can pay 899 people 15 dollars an hour. Congratulations you solved poverty
>>71060599
Understand that a minimum wage does not guarantee jobs.
It guarantees only that those who get jobs will be paid at least that minimum. And that leads to two bad outcomes: unemployment and higher prices.
When the minimum wage rises, employers will adjust.
They will use less labor.
They'll fire current employees or cut back on their hours.
They will also raise prices for their goods or services. These are undesirable consequences.
But let's also consider another bad effect Businesses will hire fewer workers, especially those with little or no job experience.
Many of those who do benefit from a wage increase will likely find those benefits undone.
They will work fewer hours, will work harder per hour, and will get less training.
>>71061468
roll for a chuckle
>>71060599
The argument behind >>71061872
pic
THE MISLEADING CLAIM: These 8 CEOs get paid so much that they clearly can afford to raise their worker's wages to $15 per hour.
THE REALITY: As we'll demonstrate below, the math proves this claim is questionable, at best.
JC PENNY:
• 114,000 employees [1]
• CEO pay: $4,629 per hour per the meme.
Each employee could get a $0.04 per hour raise if the CEO's pay were entirely eliminated.
CHIPOTLE:
• 53,090 employees [2]
• CEO pay: $13,489 per hour per the meme.
Each employee could get a $0.25 per hour raise if the CEO's pay were entirely eliminated.
Note, part of why Chipotle's CEO (Steve Ells) is so highly compensated is because he holds TWO positions, rather than just one, also serving as Chipotle’s chairman. [3]
Another interesting point? Chipotle ALREADY pays its workers more than comparable fast food outlets, such as Taco Bell, Chick-fil-A, McDonald's, Wendy's, and Burger King. [4]
DUNKIN DONUTS:
• 260,000 employees [5]
• CEO pay: $4,889 per hour per the meme.
Each employee could get a $0.01 (technically 0.018) per hour raise if the CEO's pay were entirely eliminated.
DOMINOS:
• 11,000 employees [6]
• CEO pay: $3,571 per hour per the meme.
Each employee could get a $0.32 per hour raise if the CEO's pay were entirely eliminated.
>>71065952
WENDY'S:
• 31,200 employees [7]
• CEO pay: $3,465 per hour per the meme.
Each employee could get a $0.11 per hour raise if the CEO's pay were entirely eliminated.
WAL-MART:
• 2,200,000 employees [8]
• CEO pay: $2,704 per hour per the meme.
Each employee could get a $0.00 (technically 0.001) per hour raise if the CEO's pay were entirely eliminated.
STAR-BUCKS:
• 191,000 employees [9]
• CEO pay: $10,285 per hour per the meme.
Each employee could get a $0.05 per hour raise if the CEO's pay were entirely eliminated.
MACY'S:
• 166,900 employees [10]
• CEO pay: $7,904 per hour per the meme.
Each employee could get a $0.04 (technically 0.047) per hour raise if the CEO's pay were entirely eliminated.
CONCLUSION:
Considering that this meme took annual CEO pay and simply divided it up into 40 hour work weeks despite the fact that CEOs of top firms routinely work over 40 hours a week [11], it already was guilty of significantly over-inflating CEO's hourly wages. But even if one takes the meme's inaccurate estimates at face value, it's conclusion proves to be entirely false, never the less. You could literally eradicate 100% of CEO pay from each of these companies and never even come close to a 50 cent per hour raise for workers, never mind nearly doubling minimum wages to $15 per hour. This claim is demonstrably false.
>>71066051
ADDENDUM:
Before one protests that our counter-argument is off because we counted ALL employees rather than focusing only on those paid under $15, understand that this point - while valid - raises only a very small discrepancy.
It wouldn't matter if one adjusted the math to apply it to half or even one-third the workforce, because one would still struggle to add a dollar to worker's pay. For instance, take Wal-Mart for example. Their pay increase would each be a (rounded down) 0 cents per hour raise if applied to all workers, but if we adjusted the figures to distribute the CEO's pay amongst workers presently earning less than $15, as to bring it up to the hypothetical $15 minimum, it still wouldn't be more than a few cent raise. Therefore, even though our rebuttal is a rounded off estimate, it's one that is so significantly far away from the original misleading claim that it becomes obvious Occupy Democrats was very wrong.
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Sources:
[1]
http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/JCP--Number_of_Employees
[2]
http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/CMG--Number-of-Employees
[3]
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-05-15/chipotle-investors-slam-executive-compensation-at-annual-meeting
[4]
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-fast-food-jobs-pay-2013-7#!I5stQ
[5]
http://www.bostonjobsource.com/dunkin.html
[6]
http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/DPZ--Number-of-Employees
[7]
https://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/WEN--Number-of-Employees
[8]
http://news.walmart.com/walmart-facts/
[9]
http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/SBUX--Number-of-Employees
[10]
http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/M--Number-of-Employees
[11]
http://www.bls.gov/ooh/management/mobile/top-executives.htm
>>71060599
I earned my money by working hard, being smart and thinking outside the box. I also gave jobs to many people who would instead be jobless, why the fuck would I give it away to someone who does have any potential?
>>71063225
There is no discernible correlation between the increases in the minimum wage and inflation.
Granted the whole 'Make the minimum wage 11 billion dollars an hour!' is a fallacy in of itself.
>yfw you started working at age 15
>yfw you've worked everything imaginable from janitor, retail, farming, manufacturing, construction, food service
>yfw you go to college because you realized you don't wanna work those jobs for the rest of your life
>yfw you get a decent job that actually utilizes the skills you learned
fuck off freeloaders, it's called working for a living. if you make a shit wage, you're working a shit job and that's all on you. buck the fuck up
>>71060599
>Chipotle
>13.4 grand an hour
u foken wot m8
>>71060599
supply and demand
>So how come the ceos are making 300x more than their average employee?
because they add at least 300x more value to their respective companies than the average employee.
> Why is it that they cant take a pay cut to raise wages all across the board?
because then there would be a shortage of talent causing problems for their respective companies.
>Do they really need to make 18 million a year?
yes
>>71060599
Your $15 an hour minimum wage will cut into profits, cutting my bonus. Go demand gibs somewhere else
>>71061468
I was thinking the same thing. Its as if they're too stupid to realise that $4000 dollars per hour could even add up to however many employees there are at these companies.
>>71060599
Wow. I bet those couple of grans will be enough to be converted into over 200 thousand dollars every hour.
Fucking liberals are dumb as fuck.
Literally thinking money comes out of thin air.
>>71062323
This. Every job Ive gotten, I got because I was already employed at a different, shittier job. Shit jobs like McDonalds and shit arent meant to be lived off of, though sometimes for lower income families, it may be their only option.
Instead of bumping minimum wage up, they should property taxes so landowners can lower rent for lower income families. Itd be help to eliminate monopolies and ologopolies that run the energy and resources trade so it wont cost people so much to use simple resources like water, gas, and electricity in their home
>>71061017
>I dont understand why the minimum wage isn't 15 the ceos can afford it. They are being greedy and keeping all of their wealth at the top and giving us nothing.
Part 1, CEOs don't make their wage up out of thin air. That comes from the board of directors and their investors as a reward for services rendered and as a promise for them to steer the company in the right direction
Part 2, the CEO employs hundreds of thousands. Even if you cut them out of the picture entirely they could only afford a minor, 10cent raise to employees if you distributed the money equally
>>71061955
when you reach that high you have to be greedy
