Any of you British gentlemen have any pro-EU arguments?
Genuinely interested.
Nope. People who vote in are brainwashed
>everyone in my family is voting out
feels good senpai
I'm afraid not my good man
Gotta be something.
At least play Devil's Advocate.
We used to admire you Brits for your grit, national pride, freedoms and ingenuity.
Now, you are becoming pussy Europeans with a nanny state and an increasing sense of liberal shame and self-loathing.
Get your shit together - we want to like you again.
The tories are trying to infringe on our freedom of movement so when there economic policies fail we can't emigrate out.
>>71060005
muh economy is pretty much the only argument
>>71060502
delete this
>>71060502
Sorry m8
>>71059924
>>71059896
Top show
>>71060502
you just fucked up Trafalgar square dude.
what do you have to say for yourself
>>71060502
Dude you brooke the Combo!
>>71060478
>>71060517
>>71060561
>>71060589
Tfw someone saves your OC combo, nice job on the file naming though, I like that, better than my 1234.
>>71060680
Fug DD:
>>71060252
>Get your shit together - we want to like you again.
We are working on it my good man.
>>71060252
>One War is enough for any man. I hope you will be spared a second. Either the bitterness of youth or that of middle-age is enough for a life-time: both is too much. I suffered once what you are going through, if rather differently: because I was very inefficient and unmilitary (and we are alike only in sharing a deep sympathy and feeling for the 'tommy', especially the plain soldier from the agricultural counties). I did not then believe that the 'old folk' suffered much. Now I know. I tell you I feel like a lame canary in a cage. To carry on the old pre-war job – it is just poison. If only I could do something active! But there it is: I am 'permanently reserved', and as such I have my hands too full even to be a Home Guard. And I cannot even get out o'nights to have a crack with a crony.
>Tolkien to his son Michael in 1941
There seems to be not much left of the old British spirit.
>>71060844
you can make it right by deleting your post, do it faggot.
>>71059061
Why are we having a referendum at all?
Make Britain Great Again
>>71059756
Same here. It's a good feel. My retarded friend said "we should stay in, I don't like change and holidays will be hard if we leave"
Stupid fuck
>>71060844
>you can make it right by deleting your post, do it faggot.
Yes anon do the right thing and delete your post for the glory of the empire, there may be a promotion in it for you!
>>71059061
>the only people that voting brexit are them nasty goobergater, tory, racist, sexist, little englanders, i bet they'd vote trump if they could
basically the lefts usual arguments "if you don't vote how we tell you it makes you a racist/sexist"
>>71060502
Combo breaker! X,-D
>>71060631
>>71060680
>>71060725
>>71060946
>>71061072
>>71061436
For Queen and Country lads
I want them out because I'm jealous. For Poles it's just enough to be toilet cleaner to be able to immigrate to the UK. Russian, in his turn, has to have an university degree, to be invited on hi skilled job in the UK, et cetera. After the UK outs, there'll be equal rights.
>>71061542
The Nation thanks you for your sacrifice.
God bless.
>>71060502
You did the right thing anon, Nelson smiles upon you
>>71060502
True fucking patriot right there.
>>71061887
we wuz deleting posts and shit, what was his post?
>>71062035
2/3
>>71061982
Just said "Decent" in response to two earlier posts.
>>71062078
3/3
>>71061182
>basically the lefts usual arguments
I've made different experiences. Most colleagues I talked to will probably vote stay, their main reasons being the following. How will UK participation in H2020 and its successor look like? Would the UKs contributions to ESA increase or decrease following a brexit? How will the interlink ECMWF-ESA/EUMETSAT-MetOffice look in the future? Would a future government reallocate the 'missing' EU funding or will the saved money go towards other areas? Will UK teams have to compete with US teams for international grants or will EU grants be accessible via another treaty?
None of these issues are without possible solutions, but one can see why a 'stay' option is just less hassle..
Economic argument is shit. EU is breeding parasites and you don't want to pay for them as they demand more and more.
Remember - there is nothing more rewarding in politics than convincing parasites that THEY are the victims.
>>71059535
I agree. however this vote is a single issue. Which is why I'm voting to get the fuck out.
>>71059061
>I will never get a change to opt out
feels bad man ;_;
>>71061555
we don't want any of you cunts here.
Allahu Akbar!
The U.S. must take Monroe Doctrine now.
The U.S. must withdraw American Forces from all Foreign Countries now.
I love American99% and the U.S.
Japan, Germany and China are evil empires.
Allahu Akbar!
>>71062301
>We shouldn't do something cause it might be hard
I'm voting out, I paid nearly a hundred fucking quid for my passport and not once have I ever been asked for it, so it's time to justify the extortionate fees, plus Cameron is so much of a cunt I'd vote against anything he agrees with.
>>71062796
Wow. Where have you been to that doesn't ask for your passport at border control?
>>71062796
>I can travel anywhere without showing my passport >_<
>>71062898
France and Spain, those fuckers are lazy as fuck at the ferry ports.
>>71062113
>>71062078
>>71062035
>wat
>>71059061
The only good thing we get from the European is free travel.
Although it also means hordes shitskins can come here anytime so that cancels it out.
>>71060005
If we leave we are surrendering Europe to the 4th Reich.
>>71060252
Fucking niggers. When will you fix your problem with niggers?
>>71063004
Yeah same lad!
Went to france and spain like 10 days ago. Didn't even have to show our passports. In fact, i could of smuggled stuff and get away with it very easy.
>>71059061
Cavani to Liverpool confirmed?
>>71063185
Noice
>>71063398
>i could of smuggled stuff
Should have smuggled some grammar.
>>71063597
I put $5 on Leicester winning the league at 1 to 4000 odds.
Betting site in Vegas is trying to pay me off with $10,000. Should I do it?
>>71062509
>I will never get a change to opt out
Don't give up hope. The EU is a flimsy house of cards. Many nations want out and if us Brits do the right thing an vote out we will start a domino effect that will see other nations demanding referendums.
>>71059756
>Not posting the better one
>>71063655
>i correct people's grammar on 4chan
aren't you sad
>>71059061
>on /pol/
>asking if there are any pro-EU arguments
>>71063728
Nice, it was 1:5000 here.
Payout? Depends. How bad would you need 10k right now? They are 7 points ahead, and while they haven't won yet - they have a VERY good chance of brining it home. I'd say leave it and cash it in when the Foxes triumph.
>British Spirit
>Base attacked. Yanks cower under tables saying "jesus oh god oh jesus wahhhhhhh"
>Base attacked. Brits backs against the wall, start laughing that a grenade blew nearby "fookin ell", you see that mate?"
Make America great again soon.
>>71063728
>implying you actually bet that
Them offering half the winning pay out suggests they believe the possibly of the bet paying out fully is greater than 50%. As it's more likely than unlikely, don't cash out early. Leicester just have to win 3 out of 6 games so there's no point cashing out unless its near certain they'll lose at this point.
>>71063728
No. Leicester have it in the bag.
>>71064148
I'm worried that they will go bankrupt if Leicester actually wins so it's either 10k now or nothing.
>>71059061
The EU seems great if it's just trade agreements between nations and free travel. But I have no idea how there came to be a whole EU parliament and president.
>>71063655
I hate it when retards forget the use of their auxiliary verbs.
>>71064382
Wat? How many people bet that Leicester win the PL at the beginning of the season? Fuck man, I live in Leicester and even die-hard fans were sceptical at the beginning of the season about staying up. Crazily, there were a few guys around here, though, who bet 20 quid at 1:5000 odds.
>>71064382
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The house always win. For every one person betting $5 on Leicester at 4000/1, there are 10000 people betting $5 on Man City/Arsenal/Chelsea/Man U winning the league.
>>71063366
Not him but I hope we fix it soon. More and more whites are getting fed up with niggers because of the blacklivesmatter shit so hopefully it'll keep up.
>>71064385
>The EU seems great if it's just trade agreements between nations and free travel.
That's the EEA and Schengen. These two were developed along the EU. The ECCS/EU had vastly different motivations in the beginning then just being a free trade area.
>>71064616
Lots of people throw a couple bucks down every year for teams at 1 to 4000 odds. I've been doing it for a while. All sorts of leagues.
Fucking Ranieri is never going to have to buy another drink for the rest of his life.
>>71059896
>>71059924
heh
>I don't want to be left on a small island
Maybe he should leave
>>71062301
Less hassle than eventually having 20% of your population be Muslims.
>>71061716
>Tfw surname is Nelson
>mother was going to name me either Merlin (after the spitfire engine) or Horatio
>father said I would be bullied
>given name is that of a King instead
>>71065429
Don't worry about that. The Pakistanis are coming regardless of EU membership status.
I only have a Spanish passport but I'm a British citizen. Do I still have freedom of movement if we do leave?
>>71065577
Why are the curryniggers from the Commonwealth allowed to just waltz in?
>>71065577
Nope, we just don't have proper control of our borders.
>>71065905
Depends where you live, and whether by freedom of movement you mean to cross borders without visa, or live/work in other EU member states. Holding a Spanish passport means you are a dual British/Spanish citizen and, I believe, as such you are entitled to all the goodies that come with an EU citizenship. In those matters, I don't think anything will change for you. Unless the UK decides to revise their citizenship laws.
>>71066065
Because history. There's nothing easier in the world than being e.g. Indian and wanting to come to the UK to study. A gorillion of Commonwealth stipends are available to currys. We are paying pakis and currys to come to live in the UK. Brilliant, eh?
http://wesaystay.uk/
>>71059061
>small island with the Tories
Why not expand?
>>71066527
That's fuckin gay.
>>71066065
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Immigrants_Act_1962
>>71066799
Not as gay as driving on the left side of the road.
>>71059061
Mfw if I was Brit I would vote out but as a Frenchman it's pretty cool I can go to the UK ez so secretly hope you vote in
>>71066527
Source? Foreign students pay out the arse from what I've seen, I'm not surprised if there's incentives for them to come, they still get milked to fuck compared to what Brits pay.
>>71067451
Just do a quick google search on commonwealth stipends, grants scholarships or student aid
Sure, on an undergrad level, they might still pay the overpriced amount, but getting funding for a postgrad position is piss easy. Most scholarships take care of tuition fee as well.
>>71067451
same in the US. there's no financial aid for foreigners. our private universities are run like conglomerate corporations focused on bottom line profit (especially those linked with hospitals) and actively WANT to enroll foreign students, because instead of getting $20k/yr from an American (or less), they can charge a chink $55k/yr and they'll pay it.
>>71059061
If the EU grows balls and becomes a federalist state we could be the new America
Won't happen because everyone on the continent is an apathetic cuck who would rather form a state by insidious bullshit, and everyone in the UK has no idea what they want so more and more what they're getting is nothing.
But it would be a good idea, we could take over the world nut we'd have to share that with fucking germany
>>71068372
>If the EU grows balls and becomes a federalist state we could be the new America
Not quite the right time in history for that. If the US weren't united, they sure as hell would not vote to become so. Let's see after another world war.
>>71068372
absolutely no chance that would happen.
Alexander Gordon Jahans
>>71068640
Combined right now europe has more money and arms than the US
>>71068372
Too heterogeneous. Same problem with India.
Will never be like USA.
>>71059061
>>71060359
>yfw the vote is just going to be rigged for remain anyway
>>71068738
... yet you totally rely on the US for naval, strategic airlift, satellite, and SIGINT support
>>71059061
That Brighton in the background? Buldings and the pebbles look familiar but havent been up there in a while.
Literally the only reason is it makes it easy for us to work in other EU countries.
They all have massive unemployment though so who the fuck cares.
>>71068640
>>71068756
Hey we'd still be friends, you'd just be slightly lesser than us. It's cool don't worry about it America
>>71068883
Dude like we wouldn't get a massive fucking overhaul and benefit by pooling all resources. Right now we do but right now everyone's doing it alone so they don't have the excess for any meaningful power projection
>>71068816
Too much money.
Honestly, who is counting the votes anyway?
It's the safeer short term economic option.
That's about it.
>>71069021
>havent been up there in a while.
you mean "down" there?
Mums voting to stay because of lower import tax & muh economy
>>71069154
>but right now everyone's doing it alone
This isn't going to change.
Like I said, you're too heterogeneous. Like India.
I think maybe you don't know much about India or what the word "heterogeneous" means.
>>71069276
Fucking women voting for self interest.
See how they feel when we get cucked by the TITP and they have to fees their kids hormone laden American food.
>>71066196
Where do you live in england and where are you from in spain?
>>71059061
Exit, kick all poles, we need them back to clean some toilets.
>>71069417
it's delicious
>>71069397
>I think maybe you don't know much about India or what the word "heterogeneous" means
Wow way to sour the fucking conversation by speaking like a faggot, obviously you're gagging to tell someone but how about you just stick it up your own arse
>>71069458
You can stay, we quite like Poles.
>>71069742
I'm sorry but I hate to repeat myself.
One of the problems plaguing Europe is the duplication of efforts and the lack of any common law. You can't just wave a magic wand and solve these sorts of problems.
Cheap labour will come from the Orient rather than Europe, or the EU will demand we accept their stupid fucking open borders for Free Trade
We'll be cucked just like Switzerland and Norway, having to do what Europe tells us and having Open Borders with Europe but having no say at all, not that we have much of a say to begin with
Doesn't make a difference. England is dead. Leaving the EU won't bring her back, we're just another finance zone subject to international capitalism.
>>71059061
>that counts as a beach in bongville
>>71060478
>>71060517
>>71060561
>>71060589
I don't like the fact of us being defeated and a sculpture being made about it; But there is nobody is more worthy of doing that than Britain.
>>71069742
Why even bother, lad. If someone is talking in a way that not everyone can understand on a Japanese Image Board filled with people who have English as a second language then they're not worth talking too. He's talking about heterogeneity but Europeans are pretty much all the same now, at-least Western Europeans are, thanks to Capitalism creating international consumer culture.
>>71070012
This counts as culture in Australia
if britain leave the EU then it will make trade between britain and the rest of europe more expensive
or so i hear
>>71070176
don't get yourself so excited there Javier, that's celebrating the Battle of the Nile.
>>71070293
I meant it for Trafalgar, Anglo in denial. There's nothing wrong of showing some respect to other country that isn't yours. You americans should do that every once in a while.
>>71070213
I'm talking about law, commerce, culture, and language.
You have dozens and dozens of national government agencies that do not speak to each other. Europe is not in the least bit homogeneous.
>>71070247
I'm not gonna rate this post, you probably can't think straight with all those rocks jabbing into your feet.
>>71070414
Lad, as I have said, international capitalism has killed unique national cultures and commerce in Europe. Everyone's learning English and the law can be changed. Everyone will have to kneel to the superior English system of Common Law, of course.
>>71070412
>There's nothing wrong of showing some respect to other country that isn't yours. You americans should do that every once in a while.
Somebody is butthurt.
Passive aggressive much? Why don't you tell me how you really feel.
>>71069261
MIDLANDER DETECTED
>>71069021
CORNHOLE DETECTED
Reason to stay? Hmm, fear politics, though not completely unjustified. The Leave campaign is just shit at the moment, no unity of message. No surprise our big media tend to be pro EU.
DESU the damage of being EU member state is already done - fucked up plenty, no going back there. And the 'big' issues don't have much traction in the nation - sovereignty just aint sexy compared to cheap ryanair flights to the costa del sol.
Safety will push the swing voters to stay. And there isnt enough of a population to vote leave decisively. Urbanites, Labour, Half the Tories, the Scots, the Irish, etc - tend to be pro. DESU I would miss my easy windsurfing weekends over the channel, even if the EU fucked me 7 other ways to sunday.
Gibberish?
>>71070431
Did you steal this computer?
>>71070591
They have computers at Centrelink brah.
>>71069931
Well yeah that's where I was going with my first comment. Germany & co. is trying to change europe to a federalist by insidious means. But I feel like if we wanted to become like America we'd need to go all in and wipe the slate clean, start from ground zero.
With what europe is currently doing it's never going to happen because no-one identifies with some new land of hope and glory, but with their own old country. And now as federalism is being pushed we're seeing the biggest identities, like Britain, saying no.
>>71070431
In all honesty, I fucking hate the beach.
>>71070525
>international capitalism has killed unique national cultures and commerce in Europe.
no, that's called electricity, television, and the internet.
as for "international capitalism"... you fool, that's the default method of human nature.
Capitalism is the most pure expression of human behavior there is. Any time you get rid of it you see black markets pop up. And we all know that black markets are just free markets made illegal by arbitrary laws.
>>71070547
You're the one buttmad here because some guy showed respect for another country in an anonymous ''politics'' board. Oh well whatever I shouldn't be discussing something with a failed colony member at such hours of the night.
>>71069021
PS can confirm is Brighton. still got works going on for the new seafront, pebbles, the roof style (like Brighton pav), green seat. Christ parking is a bastard.
>>71070781
Holy shit what is your problem?
Where is this anti-American hate coming from?
Completely unrelated.
>>71070766
What laws are not arbitrary?
>>71063756
Hope so. Don't give up mon frère. For the queen !
>>71070909
the law of the jungle
>>71070896
At how you think a statue is for the battle of the nile yet the name of the battle is literally the name of the Square it is on. Which is Trafalgar if you didn't know.
About the ''Anti American'' part of me, it's just what I call, ''common sense''
>>71070977
But that means private property is arbitrary.
>>71070909
Laws that respect human liberty and independence.
Anything that bans or forces something purely for the sake of a social cause is arbitrary.
The social cause of the Marxist was to equalize the classes and the social cause of the cultural Marxist is to equalize the races.
Either way, capitalism has absolutely fuck-all to do with the distillation of cultures.
>>71069261
>>71070548
Worthing, not a cornhole. Literally 15 minutes down the road from Brighton.
>>71070821
Yeah the parking is pretty shit in all the coastal towns in Sussex in my experience.
>>71071151
>Laws that respect human liberty and independence.
Why aren't they arbitrary? Because of your feels?
I'm voting out
>>71071708
You know it, anon.
>>71071512
worthing, fair, i'm rural sussex. Nice ID though, Gay Fap.
Brighton is certainly among those - atleast hastings has real car parks.
on another note - anyone sick of this PCC shit?
>>71072142
>PPC
Police complaints comission? Thats all google brought up.
>>71072142
I'm southern Hampshire. Got family in Sussex.
I live a 5-10 minute walk from the beach. Love it but prefer the woods
>>71072434
Close but no Cigar.
https://www.choosemypcc.org.uk/
Vote for a police and crime commissioner. only question is - will it be above 10% voter turnout?
>>71072517
You got sand? Pebbles is 90% of the south, 9% white cliffs, 1% sand. Woods and green rolling hills as far as the eye can see here.
>>71072739
Yeah we have small sand dunes, an area named after sand (that Hampshire council dumped the results of Solent dredging onto.
Western part is sand dunes and stones
Central stones
Eastern sandy stones
>>71070548
Yep, gibberish.
>>71069021
Brighton is like the only place on the planet that votes for Green Party and that mad aussie bitch. So this guy in the pic doesn't surprise me that hes voting remain one bit.
>>71074419
No Im not too surprised either, but I just wasnt sure.
All the hipster scum who cant afford to live in Brighton have moved to the surrounding towns. Theres always a few of them when I pop into town.
This echo chamber is fucking embarrassing, You retard single issue voters just want out because you think immigrants will destroy the country, while true thats not the only fucking issue, Do you want your fucking human rights, We are heading down a path of 1984 and the EU is the only thing that is in the way
>>71059061
Do you really want to live on an island where the Tories/Labour/the Bankers/the bonuses/the Bankers/the bonuses/<insert political bogeyman here> have complete and total control and nowhere else to turn their malice and spite?
Imagine how hard Cameron will try to pilot us into a nosedive between the vote for exit and all the paperwork being completed and it happening, for example.
>>71059061
un-cuck the EU, burn the Muslim heretics! NINTH CRUSADE KNOW. also to hold against the sandies siege European countries will have to stick together.
>>71070896
>>71070781
Children can be so dissapointing some times
>amirite.
>>71074782
prophet of doom mode engaged.
I like europe plenty, and the IDEA of the EU. but the reality is different. Fisheries destroyed, Agri policy, zoning, court and justice sovereignty, muddied economics, lack of change, etc - those are my real issues.
Please convince me otherwise to vote in - immigration is actually a problem that we cant do shit about in real terms, as we are already reasonably saturated (for good or bad)
>>71074782
The irony being g, that the EU doesn't really have anything to do with the immigrants they don't like anyway. Contrary to popular belief, most Pakistanis didn't come here clinging to the underside of a lorry or in a blow up beach toy. They just brought a plane ticket and filled in some paperwork.
>>71061047
>MUH HOLIDAYS
Is it just me or are leftists almost always spoiled children?
>>71071512
Selden Arms near the hospital, top pub.
