This is the border between China and Russia.
How long before China conquers the Russian far east?
My guess is within three decades max.
>>71038758
What would the point of that be?
>>71038758
Eh. I'm getting tryhard vibes from China's gate there
>>71038758
Russians are stubborn, proud nationalists with a stoic view of hardship and ancestral grudge against asian occupation.
They would literally burn the country to the ground before they let themsleves be occupied by the chicoms
>>71040662
Do you even know where and what Russia is or are you basing it all on 4chan memes?
>>71040662
They did that already
Pro tip : repeatedly putting fire to your own country instead of having an actual efficient armed force is a bad idea.
But well, there are 20 Russian for each 100 kilometer square and they're all drunk... Idk why China would want to conquer that. Better to get deals with the drunk Russian, more efficient than to sober him up to defend his country.
>>71038758
It's clear what you are trying to insinuate with that pic, but in reality the chinks just built it with middle class investment money because that's all the government will let let them invest in. They can't into economics for shit, and over half of their population has some form of cancer. China will go through 3 more political revolutions that will kill billions of Chinese before they can even consider conquering my asshole.
Also I'm sure there is a Chinese/cykablayt doto lane joke in that pic somewhere
>>71038758
do russians even live that far?
wow biggu chinesa gateu
>>71042406
RARE!
>>71038758
I can see the smog invading
They should build the rest of the wall
>>71042406
hey there gadafi
>>71042674
>>71038758
looks like the chinks have a complex about something
>>71042406
How are you even allowed on 4chan
they are actually being forced to work together by the aggressive posture of the US.
China is building rail corridors through central Asia into Europe, to counter American naval power in asia.
Russia has Military expertise oil/natural resources, China has manufacturing capability.
I suspect this has a lot to do with the US trying to rile up Ukraine and create problems in Eastern Europe.
China straight through to Europe via Russia, could become a massive economic corridor that cuts N. america out of the action
>>71038758
they can buy cheap raw materials from russia, no restrictions. other than that who cares about russia beyond the urals? what would they do? fish in the yenisey river?
>>71038758
>Be China
>Take over Jewish Autonomous Oblast
>Why
>>71042989
uncommon
>>71043163
stupid little libjan
>>71043217
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
>>71043163
i bet you eat chicken sandwiches
>>71043260
fucking shrekt motherfucker, i'm going to rape that sweet darkie botay tonite motherfucker.
>>71043349
FUCK OFF WHITEY
>>71038758
Far East is not Russian.
>>71038758
>chinese concrete
are you serious right now?
Why exactly would you want Russia's far east?
>>71042989
What hapeneed in Nagorno-karaback? How did it end?
>>71043428
Turkics and Mongols probably hate Chinks too
>>71040662
>>71042269
Meh
Burning it down is some backward 19th century shit
Nowdays they'd just nuke their own soil with the enemies on it
>>71042406
how much longer until we start seeing islamic state flags?
>>71043272
yeah last time i ate chicken was 3 days ago(hot wings)
>>71043630
they're already up since 2011 you retard
>>71038838
>How long before China conquers the Russian far east?
They are doing it already, taking things over slowly.
>>71042406
How is that democracy and freedom working for you?
>>71043513
The Azies took some ground from separatist. Not much tho
>>71038921
This
China is going to be trying to convince everyone they're amazing until the day revolution comes.
>>71038758
Russia spent give a fuck so long as it works China is trying to present themselves as a resurgent great power so they build shit like this as display of might
>>71043688
post a picture of what it looks like out your window
I wanna see if it really is all sand and mud houses
> russia
Would be no such thing in 30 years
Better pic
>>71038758
Russia as a whole would literally stand to the last man against Asian occupation. Its literally in their DNA.
>>71043914
Was a ceasefire signed? Is the border clash ended for now?
>>71043890
>>71043978
jesus fuck why does this happen everytime i post
YES MY COUNTRY IS GARBAGE
BEFORE AND AFTER THIS SHIT NOW FUCK OFF
>>71042406
Full blown terrorist or CIA
>>71038921
>I'm getting tryhard vibes
Yepp
>>71044073
You are right, in 30 years they will be the Holy Russian Empire.
>>71042560
underrated
This is what China does: the world is one big Command&Conquer level and to Hell with the environment as long as tank rushes can be made
>>71042406
Can WE PLS GET A VIEW OUT YOUR WINDOW LOL
>>71042560
literally Mordor
>>71044203
I don't see any picture
POST ONE FAG
Prove us wrong that it isn't all sand and mud with a simple picture
That is... Unless it is all sand and mud... lol
>>71042466
kekd and chekd
>chinese communism may fall in your lifetime
>legit chinese posters on 4chan, /int/ and /pol/.
This. And north korea.
>>71043396
>Norway BTFO by Punjabber!
>>71038838
Russia's far east has a wealth of untapped resources that Russia has miserably failed to properly develop, despite holding it since Tsarist era, and therefore don't even deserve to hold this territory.
It has an extremely low population density and hundreds of thousands of illegal Chinese immigrants are already pouring over the border over the past decades.
Russia's entire far east has a population of only around 7 million people while Northeast China alone has over 70 million.
China's massive population needs Lebensraum to expand .
Outer Manchuria was forcibly stolen from China by Russian imperialists in an unequal treaty when China was weak.
Meanwhile China's juggernaut economy dwarf's meager Russia's and their miltiary spending is already several times higher and still growing.
Outer Manchuria will be the first territory they take, followed by much more.
>>71038758
LITTLE
>>71044203
>PooJabber
>>71044516
>>71044607
im nto indian you cucks
>>71044530
>It has an extremely low population density and hundreds of thousands of illegal Chinese immigrants are already pouring over the border over the past decades.
citation needed. You're delusional, salaries in china are better than here now.
>>71038921
>tryhard
yep. welcome to china. its called 'face'
>>71044203
>YES MY COUNTRY IS GARBAGE
BEFORE AND AFTER THIS SHIT NOW FUCK OFF
>implying The Colonel wasn't based AF and had your best interests at heart
Why the fuck are the chinese so god damn tacky? Why are they so unoriginal? Everything they make is gross and shitty.
How did ancient china fall from grace?
>>71044203
How is goatpussy compared to human pussy?
>>71038758
>How long before China conquers the Russian far east?
A very long time. The Chinese aren't really eager to take more territory/people as keeping their country under control is abrely managable. They can't really keep Taiwan in line, Tibet is a reluctant cooperator, the Uygurs are causing shit, ... It wouldn't be clever for them to wage a war over a plot of land that would just be another problem.
The "Russian" Far East, the Congo and Pakistan...looks like China is the king of investment in shit places.
>>71044706
>and had your best interests at heart
>buy 200 million AK47s
>go into wars in bumfuck no where cuz lolnationalismisawesomeandfuckUSA
>send all of the oil money over seas
JUST
>>71044700
Sorry mate are you fucking retarded?
> Some in China literally have their food fried in recovered fat deposits from SHIT.
Tell that Putin cunt to reclaim clay and go be an entrepreneur.
>>71045056
how many of your friends took the boat to lampendusa?
>>71044159
Yeah,there still are really small skirmishes and artillery fire. But the conflocted cooled down
>>71044695
hey there libya
you the same as our normal libian or..
>>71044817
tiwan isnt even theres it is its own country in all but name.
>>71044700
Russia will not accept any loss in territory against China. They would deploy their vast nuclear arsenal before allowing the Chinese unfettered access to their lands, It doesn't matter how much cash you spend on military weapons, gear or training.
Russia is going to rely on its nuclear hard power to ensure it remains in its position.
>>71038921
they do it on purpose to psychologically belittle people, to make the state seem massive and powerful in their minds. same reasoning behind Tienanmen square
>>71044252
More like united states of former russia
>>71045477
there are many libyans on 4chan
>>71038758
russia: 8,000+ nukes
china: ~250 nukes
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>71038758
>China trying to make up for their tiny dicks
>>71045388
i know one from primary school did, he broke his leg in a football match, jumped a boat and claimed it was because of the war
now he is living in germany
It's interesting - why does the West constantly fantasise that Russia and China (as well as other Asian countries) are all against each other?
Russia and China have very good relations. Also very good relations with South Korea since they both hate Japan. Same with India and Pakistan - China has good relations there too.
Sup with that
>>71045583
Look at his flag you moron
>>71038921
This. China has a CHINA STRONK mentality from being cucked by western powers and mongols for hundreds of years.
>>71046045
So the West can step in and be the hero of course.
>>71038921
LITTLE
>>71038758
>not comprehending the vast cold emptiness that is mongolia
>>71045839
>he still brings up nukes as relevant
friggen cluck head
>>71038838
Living space, resources and reversing the last land loss from the "Century of Humiliation". They have been very determined about that last thing.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/01/china-eyes-land-giveaway-program-in-russias-far-east/
>>71038758
Hardly anybody even lives there, those guards at border are happy to meet a person. Their laws work little differently than American laws, you don't need a border if you have cultural designated towns. Russia would be happy at this point to be part of China's cultural district, since on their side hardly anything gets build, while on Chinese side it's little more lively.
>>71038758
>chingchong city
>170k chinks
>Zabaykalsk
>12k people
>>71044530
>China's massive population needs Lebensraum to expand .
China needs to get fucking decinated so the stop being a fucking threat to the world resources.
Having to feed a billion uselee chinks is unnecesary.
Street shitters have to receive the same treatment.
>>71045583
this. as long as russia maintains icbms there will be no border changes
>>71038758
that well-renowned Chinese construction
totally not just for show
>>71046704
>being such a retard
China has population control like no other country, they are a very old country, which is why their population is so big. You know what will happen when Communist party of China gets from throne? Buddhist will take over and they love multiple children and their religion loves multiple husbands. China right now has 1 child policy for most of cultures.
>>71047304
>Buddhist will take over and they love multiple children and their religion loves multiple husbands
>and their religion loves multiple husbands
sure shlomo
>>71046704
Plz Mexican't. Don't preach about uselesness. Your country is Guatemala tier in the international arena.
>>71047469
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyandry
Buddhism came from Hinduism and you know India has very high growth. Communist party basically blocked this. Old Tibetan forms of Buddhism are still today practicing polyandry, but most are forbidden.
>>71044530
It does sound like a plausible flashpoint in the future alright.
>>71046277
ASIAN
>>71042406
fukken proxyfags mang
looks like china is compensating for something
>>71045477
unerrated rare
>>71047095
The especially worrying thing is... You can guarantee all those OTHER buildings were built to the same standard.
>>71045712
The problem is China goes overboard with it. So much so it becomes a parody and actualy has the opposite affect.
>>71038758
They won't because Russia already "rented" an Ukrainian-sized chunk of territory to China. Expect a chinese "referendum" to join China soon.
>>71038758
Russia seems pretty fucked to me. They're literally an economical and demographic dwarf compared to China. In the future they're probably either going to be conquered or become a vassal.
>>71047778
fuck off clapper
>>71043746
>>71044530
>>71046579
And what's the point when they are already conquering a continent with more living space, wealth of untapped resources and low population density in most parts. And the fact that they are sending their surplus of males to Africa, already.
>>71038758
>How long before China conquers the Russian far east?
China is already conquering Siberia by having Chinese people buy land there. Siberia is historically rightful Chinese clay.
>>71038838
Lebensraum, duh
>>71048076
Did you enjoyed the freedom we brought you?
>China conquers the Russian far east
i hope you are not of serious comrade
>>71048260
China isn't running out of land, they have build cities where people don't even live, empty buildings. In those industrial town they tear down skyscrapers every 15 years and replace them with new generic ones of newer construction type. It's all concentrated in million strong town, there's plenty of lebensraum left.
>>71048305
They're not doing it militarily. They're doing it by stealth by buying land in Siberia.
>>71046203
great book desu
>president Jack Ryan will never be real
>>71046560
then what is relevant if not nukes?
submarines that carry nukes
aircraft that carry nukes
or
all the other sorts of intercontitental missles with unearthy power of destruction in ultimately short periods of time?
you idiot get the fuck out of here now and get a brain
>>71044530
>He thinks territorial expansion is a viable way to better a country
>He thinks the Chinese actually want Siberia
The only reason it holds on to its other claims are for propaganda and nationalism, war between two large states is completely fucking useless in the 21st century go back to 1800 where you belong
>>71046045
India and China don't have 'very good relations', they merely have civil relations with each other. There's still a lot of suspicion on both sides after the Sino-Indian War.
>>71047095
Would take some balls but it'd be neat to wander around in there.
>>71044530
Why do they need lebensraum when they're all trying to pack into a few big cities anyway?
It's called perspective.
>>71048464
they kind of are. their population density is about as high as japan. half of their country is desert.
not saying they'll invade russia. there are ways around land shortages. more precise pricing, allocation based on merit, etc are all ways of compensating.
>>71042775
>pokebama2.jpg
>2
If you are still here, post the others, lad.
>>71048706
If a Russian comes to China he can already participate in local wars, since when a Russian comes to China he gets put into cultural community based on his ethnic background and Chinese military rolls around Uzbeki/Tajiki/Khazak towns all day to secure towns. You have local fights between those groups every year until small eyes true Asians come and break it up.
>>71044133
Probably made of chicken wire, stucco, and Styrofoam
>>71048924
the peasants are trying to pack into a few big cities. this is officially illegal in china. there is a registration system which forces peasants to only be able to get jobs, collect healthcare and housing benefits, send their kids to school, etc in the province of their birth.
of course, this doesn't completely stop immigration.
btw a "small" chinese city is bigger than your capital. a third largest city in a province probably has 3 million people.
>>71044717
It became communist.
I wish Chiang Kai-shek had won the war.
>>71048972
You had discoveries of Asian monkeys in China and discoveries of deserts as late as in 21st century. China right now is processing fast, building fast, demolishing fast, there is no real beauty plan for megacities, it's all just build and build and re-new. They first have to discover other places, or more like re-discover them. They all tight packed in big cities, but lately they are thinking about defining some architectural styles to their cities, then much later they will realize they still have 90% of uninhabited space. Is desert even a problem at this point?
![rkadirov[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FMgJszY.jpg "rkadirov[1].jpg")
>>71048305
Recently, the president passed the law about forming a new military structure, jurisdiction of which consists of absolutely everything, they serve president directly and are allowed to shoot at groups of people without any warning.
Picrelated is very willing to become a part of said structure.
Dare I to remind you that officially 86% of russian population supports Putin.
Surely all these "precautions" aren't just for fighting chinese, aren't they?
>>71044203
picture of ISIS in the streets or gtfo
>>71044530
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
Hello chang
>>71048066
It's a meme that china has high fertility, it had it before urbanization. The economy though, yeah chinese growth is carrying half of the world ATM.
>>71038758
Russia simply is dumb, they are so busy with their selfmade scarecrow "the degenerate west", they will get backstabbed by China the second they are down for whatever reason.
>>71049438
I did too for a long time, but if you look at how taiwan has ended up (also a beautiful and very pleasant country) they are kind of pozzed now. nothing works, corruption is high, gays are tolerated, single motherhood is up, etc.
maybe it's for the best. chinese hearts are hardened against liberalism now, forever. they learned from our mistakes, and most people support things like censorship of western ideas.
>>71049484
uninhabited space is twofold a land availability problem and a planning problem. bad planning can make it worse, but land availability is still a key metric. a lot of land is simply unsuitable for building. they've handled it pretty well. they subsidize the building sector with excess uninvested money so that people will have homes in the future, as opposed to taking excess cash and investing it on margins on niggers trying to read using IPADS bought with debt.
at the end, the chinese still have houses. what will we have when we spend all our money on niggers? we won't even have a house.
btw notice I said population density is similar to japan. you know about japan right? there's literally nospace. density is a function of total land. not city land
I don't think China and neo-tsarist Putin Russia have hostile intentions w/each other. They seem more like allies if anything.
>>71040662
>burn the country to the ground
that's ok, what China needs is underneath the ground
>>71050133
the degenerate west is a real thing though. we're literally encouraging them to do drugs, not get married, and not work hard
we're pushing the same propaganda onto china. china and russia don't have a reason to fight atm. not when the US threatens to nuke any country that doesn't support muslims coming in and raping small children
>>71047304
all mainstream buddhist denominations proscribe celibacy for the monks
>>71038758
>>71038921
>>71046178
"When weak, appear strong. When strong, appear weak" - Sun Tzu, Art of War
>>71049400
Daily reminder that the city of Tianjin has more people than Greece.
>>71050384
Nice propaganda injection.
>>71050175
China's millions big cities aren't made to last, they are prototypes for what will come next. Those cities aren't like European cities who have a fundamental plan, Chinese cities are like skyscraper mushrooms, they pop out, they sometimes get inhabited, sometimes not, then they demolish them and replace with newer ones. Only recently in last few years Communist party has decided to invest into games, they build couple of museums in towns of interest, like some monument to last, similarly like those strange buildings during olympics. Now architects are starting to make it a little more Chinese, in modern sense. China could now say: fuck it, abandon cities and move back to rural, since most cities are all over the place anyway, there to grow into new era. It's a test, when test confirmed, then more museums and other monuments.
>>71050133
>Russia simply is dumb, they are so busy with their selfmade scarecrow "the degenerate west", they will get backstabbed by China the second they are down for whatever reason.
How the fuck does it even follow. Funny how China existed for thousands of years and mostly stayed in their own borders never being able to expand and claim Siberia. Meanwhile "civilized benevolent" West has tried to conquer us numerous times.
>>71038758
Pretty sure Shanghai doesn't want to eat a tsar bomb son. Stop being retarded
>>71050446
Asian culture kinda sucks and is exactly what leads to that timid uncreative drone mentality. For the all shit the communist party is, at least the culture revolution did some good work. I don't think china will or should remain communist though. while the removal of their culture does lead to a lot of shitty rude people at the current moment, in the long run they'll have the boldness and creativity to succeed in business that other asian countries lack due to adhering to ancient practices more.
Why will they conquer it if they can just buy?
Why the fuck would they put something nice on the China side of their country?
I would pile mountains of garbage up there if I was Putin
>>71044133
>Building massive public works with no function at all in bumfuck nowhere, paid for by extorting your surpressed population
That's China alright
>>71050245
>allies
>China
lmao. Can you provide any examples of this "alliance"? Because for the most part, especially after whole Crimea thing, China cucks Russia on any possible occasion.
>>71050524
Why the fuck are there a lot of pro-putin Canadians on this board?
>>71046045
>Same with India and Pakistan - China has good relations there too.
China just vetoed a pakistani terrorist from getting banned arond the world.
USA, UK, France, Russia all agreed on it but China at the last moment had to veto it, just to spite us.
I'd say we're far from "good" relations.
China is much more likely to colonise Africa before they take Eastern Russia.
>>71050879
There used to be, but apparently the Yanks missed this little thing called the Sino-Soviet split
>>71047095
What's the story here? They built a fourteen story building with no foundation on a muddy slope?
>>71050653
Planned urban development is more of a China thing than a European.
>>71042406
prove that you are in libya
>>71050879
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation
At least I thought that was a big thing. Plus Russia was at the Chinese military parade recently and they seemed to get top honors among the foreign troop marching and Putin and the Chinese leader were standing next to each other the whole time.
I know it's just a couple examples but if you give me more time I can point out dozens of examples that could show evidence of Russia and China alliance.
>>71050879
I am not pro-Putin, I am just pointing out that China is weaker than they appear (thought they are still a fucking power-house, but blow that main dam and you'll fuck a quarter of their country), while Russia is a much bigger beast than people seem to give it credit for (being the single largest country, you've got a rather well fortified place - stopped both Napoleon & Hitler)
>>71050879
>Why the fuck are there a lot of pro-putin Canadians on this board?
being anti-Putin summons the German proxy that calls everyone Ukrainian in barely comprehensible English
>>71051043
They literally heat up rebars to stretch them.
When they need 6 tonnes of rebar for a slab, they order like 4, heat it in situ and fucking stretch them.
>>71050524
this is exactly what they are doing. they send out so many mixed signals that no one outside the pentagon actually knows what's going on. it's kind of funny and sad at the same time how stupid we are, as whites.
>>71050619
did you lose your way? r9k is another board anon
>>71050653
your english is just bad enough that I'm unclear on your point.
european cities don't have a fundamental plan, that's precisely why price signals in them are so fucked up and the policy made to address them is schizophrenic. they take their shape because theres a continuous need to inhabit them. french are all french (or occitan) so they NEED to traffic paris and bordeaux.
you're right that the chinese plan is adaptive. they have the luxury to do so. but china is not all the same. go to guanxi or somewhere in the middle and they've purposely kept the areas rural as a natural experiment. they want to see what happens to the economy and mindsets of an advanced industrial people without huge cities, modern media, etc.
they're diversifying their policy and economy and culture to hedge aganst risk.
>>71038758
there's really nothing there though
>>71040662
this
chinks have nothing to gain from invading
>>71038758
When you are strong appear weak. When you are weak...appear strong
>>71038758
how long before China decide to invade Russia ?
don't know but you will wait an eternity.
China think he's already the center of the world
China don't really need any expansion
China don't see any interest in the far eastern Russian zones
China had good relation with their northen neighbor since the USSR.
China has no business to invade its and probably will make better benefits by buying lands in EU and US.
2/10 because OP is a fag.
>>71050009
Why does the Chinese data look so fake?
Is it some bureaucrat statistician faking results so he doesn't get hanged.
>>71051393
>Is it some bureaucrat statistician faking results so he doesn't get hanged
Quite likely
>>71050446
You watch too much Jew Buddhist news, there is a high % of gays among Buddhists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_sexual_orientation
>early Buddhism appears to have placed no special stigma on homosexual relation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyandry_in_Tibet
>Polyandry is polygamy whereby a woman has several husbands. In Tibet, those husbands are often brothers; "fraternal polyandry".
Lately among Christians and Buddhists in China there is a debate to re-implement multiple children policy and also incest and inter-ethnical marriages. The only reason why people in Tibet join Catholic church is to be able to get married between different races and to get a free wedding. West is pushing for interracial sex in China and for homosexuality. We know Thailand is 99% Buddhist and very homosexual, since they have no brakes now that they become such good USA buddy, but homosexual monks were always part of Buddhism. Nowhere it says it's forbidden.
>>71050826
I tell you what will happen: Russia will continue the pre WW2 nazi germany cycle with all the we stronk, tries to landgrab, blame everything on others and declare how they are totaly innocent, til shit hits the fan, everybody will turn against rabies russia, russia will be crushed, west gets the west, china gets the east and we will see the history of after WW2 germany in russia again, meaning china will keep the east as a puppet til itself crumbles...which propaly will take a shitton of time.
>>71050826
>chinabro
don't even bother talking to them. western culture, or perhaps whites, are just fundamentally aggressive by nature. it's weird because they'd usually rather kill each other than inferior races, but they're particularly aggressive to east asians. you won't talk tem out of it any more than you could talk down a nigger.
I think white aggression is driven by a need for ideological uniformity.
>>71050832
asian culture developed as a kind of malthusian IQ test. there wasn't a scientific conception of how to promote on merit, and their population was high AND most of them were good. so the method of determining merit came down to the best tests they could compose (a medieval SAT) and the suppression of vice inwardly.
it's fairly similar to christian culture, except whenever whites encounter a civil/bureaucratic conflict, it tends to be solved with SJW style witch hunts
>>71050446
>for the monks
Most buddhist practitioners aren't locked into a limited mindset of extreme asceticism
>>71042406
>that fucking shit flag
>>71051385
Same reason china is pushing the south china sea. China needs oil.
>>71051285
Paris is pretty good planned city. Of course cities expand, but European cities have hundred year old building and also plan where something needs to stand with everything else.
>China will conquer Siberia, despite the fact they can't even colonize depopulated Eastern China!
My favorite meme about Russia, besides ''Russia will fragment into 100 states just because''.
Just stop you fucking idiots.
>>71038758
Changs aren't conquering shit.
>>71051393
the party probably issued a mandate to make the statistics look like that. they want to exploit the fundamental tendency of western bureaucrats to take all data at face value
>>71051790
is that a dog or a bear?
>>71051763
Asian culture definitely had it's use but it's not necessary anymore. Unless they really adopt a reformed version of ancient asian culture china has the right idea of disregarding most of it.
>>71038921
thats like so duh
>>71052028
except for canada
>>71045839
>Implying the Chinese are not understating the amount of nukes they have
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/georgetown-students-shed-light-on-chinas-tunnel-system-for-nuclear-weapons/2011/11/16/gIQA6AmKAO_story.html
>>71046397
sauce. nao.
>>71052157
delete
>>71049058
ive got this one from the ukraine war
>>71044203
I don't think allah approves of such disgusting language
>>71048096
Go home, Zhang.
China can buy it out or send in their corporations to utilize the land, but they won't be able to take it militarily in this decade and presumably not in the next one. I'm not sure if there are any other people on here knowledgeable in international military issues, but PLA is in fucking shambles for the country of China's size. There was an analysis of some Turkish bureau made on China's military posted on /k/ a while ago and it showed immense gaps, especially on dimensions of quality of officer corpus and military logistics.
>>71051043
The story is it's a government project. They use substandard concrete, unqualified crews, and almost no inspection of the site.
The reason they do this is because they are trying to jump their economy forward to western levels by producing a ton of shit that isn't needed in order to create and artificial middle class that can form the foundation of an advanced economy.
Compare that to building in pic related, which has blast-proof windows and a 16PSI concrete core, because they want the next plane to hit it like a bug on a windshield. Different structures for different purposes. China has plenty of people to spare, so safety takes a backseat to growth.
>>71052157
hahah zing!
There sure are a lot of newfags here reacting to the Libya flag as if it were even that rare.
>>71052432
they won't invade russia
>quality of officer corpus
>military logistics
you seem to think that these problems are more crippling than the existence of niggers and women in the american military
BTW mexican officers in the american military have been caught smuggling tens of thousands of weapons to the mexican drug lords. how's that for quality of officer corpus?
>>71044203
REMOVE FLAGS
>>71051510
>roastie eyes
Apparently China is already making use of natural resources in far east Russia, hence they don't need to take over the land, which by the way would be quite fucking hard for asian settlers to live in. Plus, as some burgers stated itt, Russia as a whole is proud of its motherland and would never allow any yellow manlet invassion.
>>71052552
I wager its a proxyfag
No way any anon is 4chan in Libya atm
>>71038758
>>71051346
> canacuk philosophy
Does anyone know how these people get proxies to work on 4chan? I have some real funny shit I want to post as Sweden but all the proxies seem blocked from posting.
>>71044133
Did these niggers take the base model from Minecraft
>>71053322
>valencianos de mierda
>>71050848
Holy fucking shit a butter made Mao Zeus Donger
>>71050848
No matter. That humungous Mao was dismantled because no permits or some shit.
>>71052688
They are. Quality of officer corpus is one of most essential and significant traits of any military. The presence of blacks in American military is a non-issue as they're easily governed by their superiors and those who achieve the comissioned rank usually deserve it (even if percentage of comissioned blacks is low, no wonder why). Presence of women is a mistake, but a banal one. Most of women are in the air force and administration anyway and on positions that don't require immense capacity of skill. I'm far from fetishizing America on any dimension, but USA's officer training is next to Russia's after 2008 Medvedev's restructurization most elite on the planet. Lacks of discipline as in your (anecdotal) evidence and corruption don't trump the advantages in leadership and logistical know-how PLA has in great shortage. When I'm talking about military logistics I mean mainly transportation and infrastructure which has been outsourced by PLA at least on two occasions to foreign contractors. No country of this size and with such aspirations does this.
>>71044530
Haha, Russia always bullied smaller nations, now they are going to get their own shit pushed in by a bigger man. How does it feel?
>>71051204
http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/chinas-new-silk-road-vision-revealed/
Notice how the new silk road tries to ignore Russia completely.
Or the whole "Power of Siberia" project flopping, even though it was the main propaganda shtick in Russia.
>>71051212
>being the single largest country, you've got a rather well fortified place - stopped both Napoleon & Hitler
It's less about well-fortified and more about those people being way too full of themselves.
>>71051393
Commies like to fake data in general. In USSR there was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryazan_miracle.
>>71053983
china is not a power BECAUSE of its military, though. china is a power so happens to have a military
for a country like the US, who almost completely depends on its military power, to have mexicans smuggling military arms to drug dealers is a pretty serious deal. to be letting women into the military is no small matter. women don't even accomplish bureaucratic tasks as well as men. and it represents a caving into political pressures by the military. the mexicans are a caving ofthe military to foreign pressures. the fact that US military computers are made in china, and potentially have hardware backdoors, is also no small matter.
US military officers perform well on tests... designed by US military officers. in fact, officers were encouraged behind closed dors at ever level to falsify intelligence reports for morale. these reports then get fed to the CIA and state depeartment and white house, and that's how you end up with "mission acomplished."
the US military is more fragile than you think. china does not rely on its military to support its governance, currency, trade, and foreign relations policy. america does
>>71054923
>hardware backdoors
>>71055385
It is a thing. Until there's open-source hardware assume so.
>>71038758
You know that Chinese monstrosity is made of particle board and bamboo, right? It's not like a functional building.
>>71043080
Why wont half of the jews move to Jewish Autonomous Oblast? Imagine if we had 2 Israels. They could then occupy some chinese land and opress those dirty gooks. That would weaken and cause internal problems to China
>>71053149
I finally get it. Thats why whites have lost. We were so good at killing things that e created a giant fake win, but in reality we were just building up the loss we had. Thats why we are like this right now, all you right wingers to kill people with your guns.
>>71055970
I find the idea of a Jewish Autonomous Oblast funny.
>Just fuck off to the far east and do what you want
>>71044133
If I saw that, I would make an abrupt U-turn. Ominous as fuck.
>>71054923
For starters, I'm not even sure what your point is in this monologue, because my original point that you tried to argue against was exactly economic strength of China and its inability to take Russian Far East by force. Even this can be disputed because of the speculation bubble growing in China after 2011's mortgage crisis and subsequent halt to rapid economic growth China experienced in 2000's, but it's a subject for another discussion and it's still safe to assume that China's corporations in the next decade will have enough power on international market to utilize Siberia to their own benefit.
Now on military issues. I'm going to be silent on >hardware backdoors, because I'm sure that at this point you're aware as well it was a silly remark. Even though American military is caving in under political pressure it's still years ahead of Russian military and decades ahead of Chinese military. This includes a summery of factors USA has over China:
>Land Systems
>Infantry Training
>Air Power
>Naval Power
>Petroleum Resources
>Control over 60% of geopolitically vital areas to petroleum production worldwide
>Merchant Marine Strength
>Skilled Labor Force (actually yes, even that)
>Financial Funding
>Leadership proficiency
Don't get me even starting on the fallacious argument that US military officers do good on "tests" designed by US military officials. This implies that to design a good performance assessment model for a group "x" you can't be yourself a part of group "x". Basic set theory. You can. You design a model based on universal features vital for warfare, not vital for your own environment or features accesible only to people from your own group.
>>71056582
they're pretty cool to drive through, dude. china is actually extremely safe. boring place to vacation unless you like the culture, but no one will hurt you. unless you promote nigger immigration. then they might chop you up into pieces and throw you into a fish pond
>>71038758
I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords. Turning to West was a mistake that brought us nothing but wars and suffering. Our destiny lies with Asia and China in particular. Together we will stop the American empire and rule this planet.
>>71057483
I really hope you destroy all the burgers. But remember: there can be just one world ruler.
>>71057483
Though this isn't a sentiment I can endorse, your post sums up what I though RUS/CHI relations were like. So it confuses me when I see the Russian posters be like "chink's? hell no we're not allies"
>>71057670
Sometimes you have to sleep with your enemy in order to eliminate anothet enemy. This is a very basic concept.
>>71057670
Because a lot of Russians on /pol/ are from 2ch and their purpose is just to shit on any position the government takes.
>>71057244
the military, momentarily, has a massive advantage that they use to enforce a strong currency and favorable trade deals. and they won't use it to actually invade china, so it's a moot point. it's unsustainable.
if you want to look at the planning window, petraeus said the pentagons planning window was generally 2-3 years, because of the election cycle, and necessarily no longer. he estimated china's planning horizon as 2-3 DECADES ahead. it was a source of worry for him.
control of petroleum doesn't matter if you own president gets a popularity spike by inciting niggers to burn their own cities down, then occupy white cities when they don't have homes any more.
it's called "eating into your stock capital" we're spending down our resources with nothing to replace them.
>tests
but I just gave you an example of why it doesn't matter. they LIE on their own tests in order to boost morale. that's corruption. the information was so fucked that even smart people like rumsfeld failed to grasp the enormity of the flaws in our military intelligence.
it's the same as chinese corruption, who are forced to say "china strong. china always strong," which distorts decisions and the ability to decide between uncertain outcomes. it also distorts incentives, because anyone saying "america no strong/china no strong" is seen as a traitor.
we have MASSIVE problems. I think you really don't understand how savage niggers are. I'd say at least 50% would literally kill and rape just for the fun of it, with less than 5% being reasonable people. the current elite are destroying the good people in favor of the bad. without good people the military CANNOT function just because we have superior "legal code/bureaucracy."
liberia and iraq were constructed to mirror, to the T, american law and bureaucracy. nothing can save subhumans
>>71055813
>open-source hardware
>>71058522
He probably meant drivers
>>71058522
shit like phonebloks and others, it's indeed a thing.
>>71057670
I think you are misunderstanding, he meant he would gladly become the part of China, aka annexation or "liberation", depending on which side you are.
>>71058106
I guess you support any position russian government would do, after all you don't have to live with their decisions. And in case of fuck-ups it can always be used as a scapegoat akin to Hitler.
>>71042406
>all those newfag replies
>>71058522
And it's necessary for there to be open hardware because of hardware, especially CPU, backdoors. Almost certain that a lot of chinese-made tech (though not only them, everyone else does it too) has CPU backdoors to let them access at anytime. It is chilling that we have a lot of our government and military using chinese-made tech.
>>71059354
To be able to utilize the hardware you need software, drivers as stated here >>71058730. And to do that remotely you need some form of network connection. I realize this may be semantics but I don't exactly understand the idea of hardware backdoors.
>>71043688
He means ISIS you retarded proxyfag
>>71044203
>BEFORE
You do realize that Gaddafis Libya was a paradise.
If he was alive, there would be no dollar/oil trade in Africa.
Africa could finally fix their economy
>>71038758
This picture is a prime example of the Asian obsession with 'keeping up appearances'. The picture is meant to highlight China's economic success over Russia (and by extension, whites). China is indeed doing much better than Russia, but really what justification is there for such a bloated structure if not for vanity?
>>71038758
No war will happen between relevant countries as long as ours exists. Sorry retard
>>71060723
well, that is why he ended up the way he did.
same as Saddam Hussein
>>71059680
just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. you sound like a liberal
>>71058194
The moot point is you're trying to argue against a point I never presented. I'm talking about military alone and not socio-political issues which are indeed destroying your country even though you're presenting a valid point for military sustainance (crude resource stock, production, control) and ruling it out because of an external factor presented in a blown-out hyperbole of nogs destroying and occupying white cities.
Another moot point is you actually ignored that I was specifically talking about Chinese inability to take Far East by force with current military capacity, but somehow you're feeling compelled to drag me into a debate on Chinese-American supremacy rivalry. More over you actually admitted that my original point holds true, but you want to talk about something I didn't even mention. If you scroll up you can see well enough America was just used originally for officer training comparison.
And no, you gave me one anecdotal evidence of an incident of US officers lying on their tests. I can link you right now to Army's officers education audits and tests results scored in not only domestic assesments, but also international war-games and brass competitions (NCOs and comissioned officers leadership proficiency competitions). American officer corpus training is just the best on the planet at the moment and there's no denying reality with silly remarks on niggers and separated incidents. Statistical evidence always trumps that nonsense.
>>71060823
america's vanity projects are ipads to teach little niggers how to read. more than 60k is spent per year per nigger pupil JUST by the school system, not counting food aid, medical, etc.
it's a signal "we're so prosperous we can spend more than the average family income to dress up chimpanzees in clothes and give them cute toys to play with."
I'd rather have big buildings, m8
>>71061221
what I'm arguing is that china's power doesn't NEED military supremacy. they're powerful WITHOUT a functioning military. their military is a moot point
american officers ARE the best. but the military isn't using its power in an offensive capaicty. they're arms to enforce monetary policy. so it doesn't matter how well they do in theoretical engagements. they'll never be allowed to actually perform because
1. rules of engagement and
2. the diminishing time scale of sustainability
american offensive power is greatest. and it's never been used a single time since ww2 and rapidly disappearing. so it doesn't matter.
>>71059680
You do realize that "software" that could shut down or give low level access to the data can be directly wired into the hardware, right? You don't need OS level drivers.
>>71061348
It's more like 'We've got to find a way to make these wild animals into productive members of society'. We should have deported the freed slaves, but we've got to deal with that mistake in time.
>>71050898
POO
>>71059680
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/2/17/1364910/-Breaking-Kaspersky-Exposes-NSA-s-Worldwide-Backdoor-Hacking-of-Virtually-All-Hard-Drive-Firmware
>>71061652
You're very strange human being. You're repeating phrases I pointed out I have no interest in arguing over, because they're either unclear and whole another debate or we agree upon as if you were trying to reassure yourself of their validity.
Go back to my first post in this thread and look how far offtopic you went. We get it, you have a fetish for China, on /pol/ of all places with Vladimir Putin fan club and genuine ISIS supporters it's really nothing new.
>>71061945
Use all the money you would spend on niggers and give it to them to go to Africa and never come back. Problem solved.
>>71039013
He unfortunately got more than enough (you)'s to b8 again /pol/lack
>>71050848
Oh shut the fuck up already. That statue was built by local farmers because they felt so enthusiastic about Mao. The government took it down officially due to lack of permits but in actuality because they knew a 60m golden statue of Mao was way over the fucking top.
>>71062854
If everything was so easy as you think then the world would be a much more advanced place.
>it's the useful idiots and shills jump through hoops to rationalize Saviour of The White Race's retarded policies episode
what joy
>>71048093
>Why?
"muh clay, muh history" goes a long way for providing justification for questionable decisions.
>>71044133
>>71038758
That little dick compensating
>>71052009
At least Russia splitting back into principalities has a somewhat rational reasoning behind it
China will be the most powerful country on earth by 2100, but not before several major wars decimate its population
>>71064762
quitter
>>71062743
you're also very strange. military force projection is probably very important in eastern europe. but it's not for asia, even remotely.
america's military is irrelevant. I acknowledge the validity of performance metrics, to a certain extent. but it's like ceremonial armor
