Nobody on /pol/ really thinks he can win do they? I mean the proportional allocation of delegates means that even if he wins every remaining state (which he wont) Clinton will still have enough to win.
Also why is he still in the race, he managed to pull Clinton to the left, but at this point he just seems unhinged and politically naive.
What reason does he have to drop out?
>>71025748
what reason we have to exist?
>>71025333
He's already lost Hillary Clinton already had the election in the bag bought off the super delegates. Now I don't mean she actually bought it.
The longer he stays in, the more disenfranchised the millennials and cucks will feel when Clinton get the nomination and the less likely they'll be to vote for her (or to vote at all) in the general
>>71025333
>the proportional allocation of delegates means that even if he wins every remaining state (which he wont) Clinton will still have enough to win.
Yeah, if he wins by like 51% in those states. Reminder that Cruz needs 81% of the remaining delegates to win. Why doesn't he drop out?
Nobody thinks he can win, but there are a lot of disenfranchised Democrats who aren't going to vote for any Democrat but him in this election.
t. Hillaryfag
>>71026073
this
>>71025748
To stop scamming plebbiters with money grabs but that's plenty enough for me to want him to stay in until the final state
>>71026073
>>71026218
babby's first election eh? have fun kids
>>71025333
to get that phonebank money, lose the nomination, retire in the bahamas with all the cuck money he made
>>71026113
I seriously doubt the DNC even have a contested convention.
>>71026073
That really doesn't matter, they didn't vote in 2012 either and Obama still won.
>>71025748
Well he's made about as big and impact as he's ever going to. In the past week or so he seems to have begun alienating most of the party and it's supporters. Now the media's beginning to pay him some attention and how poorly thought out his policies are it's hurt his brand, where as had he dropped out sooner he may have planted the seeds for the new left to run as left wing candidates in future elections.
>>71026272
this time it's different.
no really, i think it might actually be different this time. the internet is ruining the one party paradigm, and the jews are MAD.
>>71025333
He'll get the nomination after Clinton's campaign collapses when she gets indicted for the email thing.
>>71026272
You'd be surprised how many people think that they're morally obligated to vote for the Green Party if Bernie doesn't get the nomination.
>>71026113
>Reminder that Cruz needs 81% of the remaining delegates to win. Why doesn't he drop out?
There is a chance of a contested Republican convention and other than Trump he's the only one with enough state wins to appear on the ballot for the first round of voting.
>>71026170
Some will vote Hillary, some will vote Green, others will stay home. None of that really matters since his base didn't turn up in 2012 and Obama still won. The youth vote has the greatest ego for so little significance.
>>71026427
It's a lot less then they seem online.
>>71026419
>Clinton's campaign collapses when she gets indicted for the email thing.
Well that's one thing that's never going to happen.
Today, Sarah Palin said that if the RNC steals the nomination away from either Trump or Cruz, we will 'rise up'.
She will be our leader in the armed revolution. Stand with her.
>>71026691
>online
I haven't encountered anyone I'm describing online, most of my friends think that way, though.
Depends on 3 factors at this point:
New York, California, and Super Delegates.
My money is on him winning decisively in Cal.
New York is a different matter because he has to start earning black votes. He's done poorly on that front, even though he fucking marched with Martin Luther King Jr, which... hell, black people would normally consider a big fucking deal...
If he can win New York by 6-8% then it is a race again and Hillary's campaign will shit itself. If he wins New York by only a percent or two... not good enough, and would then require him to win by even more in the remaining states...
Currently he has been winning the states by the 58%+ needed to pick up enough delegates to win so:
>even if he wins every remaining state (which he wont) Clinton will still have enough to win.
Fuck off OP
Finally super Delegates. It is possible that Hillary can pull some massive shit and for the first time in Democratic Party history the Super Delegates won't go to the winner of the popular vote... its possible.
If that happens, he's lost already and neither he nor we have been informed.
He still could win in theory, and judging by his victories after Arizona, he's been keeping up the necessary margin to still be mathematically able to win... unless super delegate fuckery is pulled.
Unless he loses New York, or wins it poorly, he can still win... mathematically... in theory. Since he's come this far, why not stay in until its clear? Maybe Hillary will be indited? xD
>>71026113
Cruz might be handed the nomination in a contested convention, just like Hillary will be handed the nomination by superdelegates if she loses the primary.
>>71027410
If they have a real interest in politics then they should know voting for the 4th place party in a two party FPP electoral system is pointless. Not that it matters.
After baby's first election they will either be establishment Dems or Republicans.
>>71027595
>My money is on him winning decisively in Cal.
There are a huge amount of blacks and spics in Cal. He may have an upset win, but it wouldn't be decisive.
Too bad, he roasted hilldog last night
>>71027990
>Too bad, he roasted hilldog last night
The both just repeated the same old talking points
>>71025333
>Nobody on /pol/ really thinks he can win do they?
The only people who SAY he can are paid shills I don't think even they believe he can win.
>>71028139
well at least on foreign policy.
And by that i mean he had the "gall" to say israel wasnt perfect
which isnt much, but the crowd was loving him
>>71028328
It may excite his supporters who would actually go to a CNN hosted Dem debate, but that's pretty politically stupid considering he needs support from at least some New York Democrat Jews.
>>71027990
This is how Bernouts think? So much confirmation bias niggers are eating out your ass hole.
New York is a closed primary, and a lot of sanders supporters are independent. It's over for him.
>>71028571
he'll probably still get jew votes by virtue of being a jew
>>71026381
Did you watch the debate last night or just read what showed up on google amp? Hillary got her shit pushed in repeatedly by both Bernie and the moderators, and Bernie displayed what he does and does not know about how to 'break up the banks.' More specifically, he pointed out that the government should not dictate HOW the banks restructure themselves, only that they DO. The media spin on this before the debate was a unanimous "he doesn't know how to do it," fooling naive readers such as yourself into thinking he won't be able to accomplish what he is setting out to, when in reality the government should not be telling bankers how to bank but should regulate the industry just as it regulates every other industry.
>>71027848
he tends to perform very well among latino voters, actually. hilary is seen as 4 more years of obama, or as they call him, the "deporter in chief".
After listening to the new york daily news interview he is so clueless. Can bernie supporters defend this?
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306
>>71029211
You must have watched some other debate. She repeatedly wrecked him.
>>71027848
Well the blacks and spics didn't do it for Obama:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_California,_2008#Results
Which is one of the reasons I think Sanders has more of a chance there than Hillary.
Only certain parts of California are loopy and you tended to get conservative leaning parts of the country:
http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/sov/2008-primary/2008-sov.pdf
(I wish you luck)
Which vote Republican in the national supporting Hillary over Obama, which was enough to turn the tide along side the standard loopy cities which went for Hillary over Obama.
Given Bernie's appeal to the more working class parts of America with the trade deals, the college campus's with affordable college, the two main area's in which Hillary out did Obama, would likely end up supporting Bernie.
Could be wrong. We'll find out later, so long as he doesn't crash in New York in which case he may drop out then.
>>71028139
>>71029288
Did you watch the debate? Hillary was pressed repeatedly on releasing her transcripts 3 times in a row, each time giving a more childish answer. Bernie backed her into a corner when comparing their methods of expanding social security. Hillary said they were the same, opening herself up for Bernie to ask her if this means she is coming out in favor of lifting the cap on taxable income. This was a devastating blow to her. She was clearly knocked down and the crowd was even laughing at her. She was forced to exclaim that "she did not say anything different tonight" than she said previously, showing the entire audience that she is not prepared to combat the wealthy people in this country, which is really the biggest difference between her and Sanders.
>>71029211
>>71029500
I watched it, it was probably one of the greatest examples that he isn't across his own policies and doesn't know how to play to an audience.
The main difference between the two of them is Hillary is playing to the General voters, while Bernie is still playing to his supporters.
Fuck me Berniefags are delusional
>>71029000
Jews hate self hating jews, they love centrist moderates like Hillary
>>71029848
That's not the main difference at all, especially when you consider how Bernie does better in every general election match-up than Hillary does. In fact, it's the exact opposite of what you're saying. Hillary is appealing to seasoned democrats, while Bernie is appealing to those who don't care about bipartisanship.
It's easy to see others as delusional when you don't understand the topic at hand.
>>71029211
Really anon?
To me he came off as rudimentary diplomacy skills and relying on pandering talking points to get the crowd chanting. In fact, it appears to me that pandering to troglodytes is just about all he is good at. Don't confuse the raging energy of the disenfranchised population with Bernie's ability to conduct himself effectively in office.
Lmao at bernouts
Almost every remaining contest is a closed primary. It's over for him. Win bernie wins big it is because of independents which he wins big time with. He should suspend his campaign after he loses new york because all he is doing is wasting people's money.
>>71029500
>Hillary was pressed repeatedly on releasing her transcripts 3 times in a row, each time giving a more childish answer. Bernie backed her into a corner when comparing their methods of expanding social security.
Um no son, what Bernie was employing was the typical nignog "debating" technique of repeating the same thing over and over. Again, more pandering.
He never had any intention of winning. He probably doesnt even want to be president.
He's running so that his policies make Hillary look more moderate. That's it. You think Bernie doesn't know that Hillary has a 100% chance of winning the nomination? He knew it from the start.
When Hillary gets the nomination, Bernie will give a big speech to his supporters rephrasing the old stereotypical talking point: "DON'T LET THE REPUBLICANS WIN! MUH NRA! MY FAGGOT RIGHTS! MUH GIBSMEDATS!"
>>71029288
>Daily News: Another one of your potential opponents has a very similar sounding answer to, or solution to, the trade situation — and that's Donald Trump. He also says that, although he speaks with much more blunt language and says, and with few specifics, "Bad deals. Terrible deals. I'll make them good deals."
>Sanders: Well, if he thinks they're bad trade deals, I agree with him. They are bad trade deals.
Umm...
Who's your preferred candidate? Hillary? Cruz?
>Daily News: But do you think that the Fed, now, has that authority?
>Sanders: Well, I don't know if the Fed has it. But I think the administration can have it.
The actual fuck. Even I know that the Fed doesn't have mandated powers over the economy, as its a private institution propped up. The Fed isn't a branch of the executive...
The article overall just scatters and doesn't fixate on a particular issue for any length of time and shifts to a different aspect. For example the breaking up of the banks, it shifts from the authority to do it, to the method to do it, to asking for the exact specific ruling allowing you to do it, when you have laws in the past which established what banks could and could not do with their funds, ie... breaking them up into sections.
The problem of the "great recession" was when private loans, were over valued, traded and when the private assets of companies also would include the domestic loans and holdings of most of the country's citizens... limiting a section of a banks assets to only be used for "safe" investments, while other parts of the same organization into the more risky ventures limits the risk to the majority of the peoples private assets, preventing any single institution to require a bail out, as the majority of a banks holdings would go into bankruptcy, if that was the result. This divide is otherwise refereed to as the Glass Steagall Act...
ya know... that thing he keeps yapping on about...
>>71026691
The email thing is worse than people realize because the media's reporting on it has been aweful. The media doesn't understand the legal and national security issues involved and they are biased in Clinton's favor. As a result they don't understand how serious it actually is and they don't want to believe it will break her.
Clinton is going down for the email scandal. She won't go to prison, but it will kill her campaign and she'll probably get fines, probation, and maybe house arrest.
>>71030061
> Bernie does better in every general election match-up than Hillary does
First off nationwide match ups during primaries are completely inaccurate
Second Hillary wins the necessary demographics to win key swing states
Third the polls you refer to are pretty out of date anyway
Fourth state by state polls show Hillary is well ahead of Bernie
Lets also not forget the fact that the minimal media coverage Bernie's policies have received unlike, Cintons, Trumps or Cruz's meaning that if some magic occurs and he's the nominee the whole rest of the election will have the media focusing on how unfeasible his policies are.
Either it would be,
>Radical Socialist Bernie v Businessman Trump
in which case he loses, or
>Radical Socialist Bernie v Traditional Constitutional Conservative Cruz,
Where Cruz would win
Or even worse for Bernie
>Radical Socialist Bernie v Moderate Republican Kasich
Bernie is a candidate who has proven totally incapable of appealing or understanding voters outside of his own base.
He doesn't even comprehend his own policies.
He operates on the idea that every Republican is a Liberal in waiting, and that he is the leader of some new left wing revolution in American politics.
The guy is just the crackpot left wing issues candidate in every open Democratic Primary who ended up in second place because most of the top Democrat Presidential contenders agreed it was Hillary's turn.
As always Berniebros are just butt hurt
>>71031138
>He operates on the idea that every Republican is a Liberal in waiting.
Christopher Hitchens operated on the idea that every Christian was just an Atheist in waiting. I mean he had absolutely no success at all did he?
Fucking Aussie. Aim for the stars and you'll hit the moon etc etc.
>>71031126
>The email thing is worse than people realize because the media's reporting on it has been aweful. The media doesn't understand the legal and national security issues involved and they are biased in Clinton's favor. As a result they don't understand how serious it actually is and they don't want to believe it will break her.
>Clinton is going down for the email scandal. She won't go to prison, but it will kill her campaign and she'll probably get fines, probation, and maybe house arrest.
Literally none of that will happen, also Powell and Rumsfield did the same thing. Most voters don't care, and she won't be indicted.
>>71031383
If I want to hit the moon I'll aim for the moon.
If elected Bernie will be a 1 term president in an age where politics strongly favors incumbents winning a second term.
>>71030913
>>Sanders: Well, I don't know if the Fed has it. But I think the administration can have it.
>can
So he knows it doesn't. Basically he's hoping that if elected President he will somehow convince Congress to give him the power to break up the largest financial institutions in the US and some cases the world.
He doesn't know how he would do it and what it would look like after.
He thinks that rather that not only will Democrats grant this power to a single individual, but also Republicans.
Power that would at least require an act passing a Republican controlled house and winning bipartisan support for 60 votes in the senate.
Or at most would require a constitutional amendment.
To give him, a radical socialist, authority to break up central components of the National and global economy. That he freely admits he doesn't know how it would work.
Is he completely retarded?
>>71025333
I think Bernouts are holding out for the majority of super delegates to switch over, which could possibly win him the nomination. Thing is the SD are super loyal to the popular candidate and that's still Hillary.
>>71032241
If the convention comes and he has a higher popular vote than Hillary they will switch, but no one other than Bernouts actually believe he will pull ahead.
>>71031594
Assertions.
>>71032017
>Or at most would require a constitutional amendment.
Its as if you didn't read, Glass Steagall Act which had the divide established.
The basic logic being: Separate yourselves or we fine you until you do.
>Power that would at least require an act passing a Republican controlled house and winning bipartisan support for 60 votes in the senate.
50 Votes in the Senate, if he was willing to spend the time required to endure a filibusterer. This is only a problem if you have a lot of other bills that need passing... lets be honest here... that's not going to be the case. Vice President of course being able to vote to tie break. The house would be the real problem.
As said earlier:
>Daily News: Another one of your potential opponents has a very similar sounding answer to, or solution to, the trade situation — and that's Donald Trump. He also says that, although he speaks with much more blunt language and says, and with few specifics, "Bad deals. Terrible deals. I'll make them good deals."
>Sanders: Well, if he thinks they're bad trade deals, I agree with him. They are bad trade deals.
The support for Bernie and Trump on various policies is joined on both the left and the right (but trump isn't a "radical socialist" so he gets a free pass). Support for breaking up the banks is domestically popular but, money gets Senators and Representatives elected so...
His first priority would be changing how elections are funded, rather than breaking up the banks. If he was able to pass that, then maybe that could be movement on the banks and the rest.
CNN keeps giving Hillary softballs.
>>71029288
>>71029848
>>71030359
According to seven separate polls.
He won. The lowest by only 71%
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/04/poll_who_won_thursdays_democratic_debate.html
http://www.thecrunchlist.com/2016/04/poll-won-thursdays-cnn-democratic-debate-new-york/
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/who_won_the_ninth_democratic_presidential_debate_vote_in_our_poll.html
https://polldaddy.com/poll/9386473/?view=results&msg=voted
https://www.google.com/amp/heavy.com/news/2016/04/who-won-the-democratic-dem-debate-recap-poll-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/amp/?client=safari#
http://time.com/4295443/democratic-debate-ninth-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-who-won/
http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/04/14/poll-who-won-the-democratic-debate/
