Wow, how can the Trumpster fires ever recover from this?
>>70999791
>No voice in the system
If a socialist is complaining that they don't have a voice in the system why is one allowed to run for president?
>>70999791
>it's true for some people so let's make it true for everyone except the government officials
>>70999791
Just because capitalism is evil doesn't mean socialism or Bernie's Social Democracy/Welfare capitalism
>>70999791
Here's some facts of life to wake you up inside:
1. Niggers are violent, subhuman trash that haven't progressed through their thousands of years of existance.
2. Gun control doesn't work with a black population >1%. (see Japan, Australia)
3. Socialism and Communism don't work. At all. Ever. (And no, free shit doesnt exist either.)
4. There are no actual arguments for pro-immigration other than blatant name calling and "muh feelings" rhetoric
5. Wellfare state breeds degeneracy and laziness, leading to greater unemployment.
6. The U.S. has fucked countries over so many times its not even funny. Or on purpose (See iraq, syria, south vietnam, tibet, UK, Germany, etc.)
7. Jews are in power. It's not even a meme. Go look it up.
8. Women are the second lowest life form, right next to niggers. Every great civilization fell because of a woman (greece, rome, macedonia, egypt, etc.)
9. No matter who you vote for, you're getting screwed one way or the other.
10.If any of these conflict with your own ideologies, then most likey, you're part of why society is turning to shit.
The white liberals are doing the dirty work for the jews.
Trump is a socialist though.
>>71000440
Lol, are you serious bro? He's a fascist through and through.
>>70999791
>continuous government meddling in the market to make it more "fair" and such buzzwords
>SEE? CAPITALISM DOESN'T WORK!
>>71000163
Please don't ruin OP's argument.
This 'gotcha' picture is all he has to live for.
Kindly delete this message.
Sincerely,
A friend
He has a point but SJW socialism isn't the answer
>>71000505
define fascism
>>71000709
You really need fascism defined?
hahahahahaha take a look at Donald Drumpf
>Bad shit, because Capitalism
Except what we have now is not Capitalism....it is in the same category as communism, just another system where the government controls the money supply, runs major industries, taxes, regulates and interferes with just about every aspect of business there is. Corporations are now so involved in government and vice versa it is kind of absurd to consider them "private" enterprises.
Everything we feared about communism has come true because our economy increasingly operates like communism. We have never really known pure unabated Capitalism.
>>70999791
Sent this faggot to us, give him a month and he will love capitalism.
>>71000163
Good luck with your run for office.
>>71000163
Now try to get a grassroots capitalist to run against Raul Castro for office.
>>70999791
>>70999791
>Wow, how can the Trumpster fires ever recover from this?
Trump isn't a reagan capitalist.
>>71001576
Yes he is, he's a Republican
>>70999791
Everything is capitalism when you consider that regulation is itself a market to be exploited by those with the means to do so.
Communism is merely capitalism with a severe identity crisis.
>>70999791
>occupy democraps
These are always so easy to refute, but it's sad you see them all over Facebook and people believe them. Bernie says 'we' as if he has ever worked a meager wage in his life, no, he has quite a bit of money.
>>70999791
Yeah because there's no socialism now, i must be imagining the billions that go to obamacare care and single mothers.
>>71003412
>easy to refute
But none of you have refuted it.
>>71000418
>1. Unfounded claim
>2. Unfounded claim
>3. The country you live in has implemented the kind of programs Bernie is pushing for dingus
>4. Not true. Immigration is a source of increased capital in general.
>5. Unfounded claim
>6. You are supporting Sanders here, and I agree.
>7. Vague statement that doesn't even relate to what we're talking about
>8. Unfounded claim
>9. No debate here
>10. How can factual statements conflict with my ideology? Especially when they're mostly false?
Fredrik, vær så snill å fullfor skulegangen
>>70999791
Made by people who have never lived in a communist country, or left their rich suburb.
>>70999791
>This kills the Zio
>>70999791
>capitalism
you mean neocolonialism
>>70999791
Not for me
>>71000163
delete this
Skipped college degree when course work became clear would not earn enough to cover expenses even with GI BIll.
Used VA Loan to get a home with record low mortgage. Living American dream by skipping BS system.
Not paying for school debt and can afford a mortgage that's cheaper than rent while earning under 40k a year.
>>71006135
What's your job, anon?
>>70999791
If there´s one thing that people had under communism was the financial security of their homes, people are more at risk of having debts related to that now in eastern Europe than during soviet era were tariffs were frozen for many years. (not a good system either but it is what it is)
>>71000163
Yeah, in a party he doesn't belong to because otherwise he has no chance.
>>71003996
>I live in a fantasy world the post
>>70999791
>Officially butt chapped econ major about to jump on the bait because I have had too many peppermint patties (5 ounces of Hot Chocolate, 1 ounce of Baileys Irish Cream, 2 ounces Peppermint Schnapps) so please stand buy as I proceed to shit all over OPs pic.
>>71000541
THANK YOU! came here to say this
>>71007465
MISLEADING CLAIM: Capitalism is bad because all of these people die every year from poverty, vacant homes go unfilled while homeless are on the street, people starve while food is stockpiled, and households are submerged in debt.
REALITY: This bit of propaganda was posted by Occupy Wall St. As you can see, they’ve attributed annual deaths-by-capitalism to THREE TIMES the number of Jewish people killed in the Holocaust. All of these “statistics” are sourced according to the original post. Of course, their claims are “accurate” to the degree that they’re reported, but it’s easy to see how they’re misleading if you care to double check. Let’s take a closer look.
VACANT HOMES: This claim is patently false. It is sourced from Amnesty International who is reporting CNBC information retrieved from the US Census. What does the Census say?
For starters, here’s how they define a “vacant” home, per the question on the actual Census (a):
1. For rent
2. Rented, not occupied
3. For sale only
4. Sold, not occupied
5. For seasonal, recreational, or occasional use
6. For migrant workers
7. Other vacant
As you can see, only ONE of those options actually means vacant. There are 11% of housing units considered “vacant” as cited by the meme, but at the same time 3.5% of housing units are vacant for reason #5. Per the Census, “Most of the states with the highest gross vacancy rates also had the highest proportions of vacant units classified for seasonal, recreational, and occasional use”. (a) Someone still owns this property. It is not abandoned.
STARVATION: They’ve asserted global food production is 1.18 times that of the population. How did they reach this conclusion? FAO reports on global food production in metric tons and they compared it to the global population (b). When you do the math that way, they’re not wrong, but the story isn’t over.
>Part II soon
>>71007590
When food is produced it is not used solely for consumption. Livestock needs to be fed, corn is used a biofuel, and sugar can be used for many applications. Agricultural production is a lot different than how much food is actually available for consumption.
So is the world starving? There has obviously always been hunger in the world, but it is currently at record low levels. As of May 2015, the number of hungry people has dropped to 785 million – a decline of more than 200 million since 1992. (c)
In developing regions, undernourishment has declined to 12.9% - down from 23.3% a quarter of a century ago. A majority of FAO-monitored countries – 72 out of 129 – have achieved their “Millennium Development Goal” target of halving the prevalence of undernourishment by 2015. (c)
What challenges efforts to reduce world hunger? Again, from the UN, “political instability and civil strife…crisis environments characterized by weak governance and acute vulnerability to disease”. (c)
What is the driving force behind reductions in world hunger? Agricultural productivity growth and developments in the global economy (c), or not tearing down capitalism. In fact, the UN and OECD lay out multiple different hunger reducing strategies that would align with a market approach – free trade, economic growth, investment, and innovation (d).
To be clear, the UN is where this claim originated and they’re saying PRODUCE MORE food – not allocate it equally as implied by this meme.
DEBT: Here we have another accurate statistic, but it is equally incomplete and meaningless. In order to interpret this statistic, you need to understand what they consider “debt”, how they measure it, and what it means. First, know that anyone can have debt for any number of reasons and it’s not necessarily a bad thing.
>part III soon
>>71007640
I could earn $70K per year and have $2K in outstanding credit card debt. I have debt on my books, but it’s not likely I will default. More importantly, anyone with a mortgage is considered “in debt”. Are we to believe that they are ipso facto going to default because capitalism has put them in a precarious financial position?
According to the New York Fed, 70% of ALL household debt is a mortgage (e). Houses are usually the largest asset on your typical household books. It stands to reason it would also be a major debt as well. Again, there’s no indication this debt will NOT be repaid, which is when debt becomes a problem.
In the same Fed report, less than 3.4% of mortgages are 90-days delinquent and that has been consistently improving since 2008/2009 recession. For credit card debt, the delinquency rate is only 10% (e). These are hardly alarming levels of debt delinquency considering 2009 saw less than 10% mortgage delinquencies (e).
Their “1 in 7 pursued by debt collectors” claim is also accurate. About 14% of consumers have outstanding third party collections (e). It’s important to know a fact about third party collectors: even if you are paying back your debt, you are still paying to a “third party collector” who then takes a commission of your payments. The recent boom in debt collection remains as fall out from the 2008/2009 recession, not a sudden undertaking of bad debt (f).
Nonetheless, as you can see, most debt delinquencies have been a result of student loans. Guess what? The federal government holds most of those – not a greedy capitalist financier (g).
>Part IV soon
>>71006922
what anime is this
>>70999791
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>>71007686
GLOBAL DEATHS: Countries with extreme poverty conditions leading to massive annual deaths are anything but capitalist. They’re mostly located in Africa and the Middle East where tribal war, tyranny, and oppression reign.
Yes, people die every day. However, it seriously undermines the REAL cause of their death to simply dismiss it as “capitalism”. Their statistic is accurate, but their claim is far from it. There are obviously numerous “poverty related deaths” – war, starvation, disease, home destruction, oppressive government, or any other plague of the third world. None of these are systemic within a free market society. I challenge you to find me an economist who calls one of these countries “capitalist”, especially in Africa and the Middle East.
The streets of capitalist countries are not lined with dead poor people as this meme seems to imply.
CONCLUSION: This is a sensationalist meme intended to distort statistical categories in order to make a vague point about “capitalism”. By further investigating these claims and thinking beyond stage one, we can easily find the faults in their logic and reasoning.
>Sources next
>>70999791
Well because as people win the game of Capitalism enough to control it it is no longer Capitalism.
>>71007717
(a) https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-07.pdf
(b) http://faostat.fao.org/site/339/default.aspx
(c) http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/288229/icode/
(d) http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/177396/icode/
(e) http://www.newyorkfed.org/householdcredit/2014-q4/data/pdf/HHDC_2014Q4.pdf
(f) www.forbes.com/sites/insidearm/2012/02/23/the-myth-of-the-debt-collection-boom/
(g) http://mercatus.org/publication/student-loans-held-federal-government
>>70999791
>comparing the soviet union to modern day usa
lol lol ok
>>71007686
>house
>asset
Stopped reading there.
Capitalism negatively affects only a group of people who have bigger problems they got themselves into to worry about (just because you are black and poor doesn't mean it's your country's fault) but communism doesn't just effect a group; It effects an entire country.
Just because you have a shitty life doesn't mean everyone else should.
America has the highest average salary and highest disposable income in the world. Wtf are they smoking.
Ya! Let's try communism again!!!
>>71007989
>A house cannot be used as equity to achieve other advantages in the market place
We got a scholar here boys!
>>71006922
>says the guy wasting his life watching Japanese cartoons
>>70999791
[citation needed]
>>70999791
Wow. It's time to try real communism.
>>70999791
we dont live in a capitalist country though
we've been socialist since the early 1900s
>>71000418
>2. Gun control doesn't work with a black population >1%. (see Japan, Australia)
Look at your gun crime rate. Norway is a fucking hell hole.
>>70999791
>ask for a loan to pay a house you cannot possibly afford, but the banks are forced to give it to you because lol, american dream is about houses
>lose house because you can't pay for it
>somehow capitalism's fault
I hate these people with a passion.
>>71003996
>4. Not true. Immigration is a source of increased capital in general.
as a citizen a migrant from ANY country, it could be as simple as a guy who lives over the border a half a mile away,
will always do me no good, if he should be to come over here and be in direct competition with me.
Big business loves a higher population as it makes workforce cheaper, which AGAIN does me no good, as i'm likely to earn less.
Now, if those immigrants happen to be from a culture of a conquer-ideology, that actively seeks to destroy our culture,
not only is our culture threatened by the mix of other cultured, to the point where its getting washed out.
But when you take in cultures that ACTUALLY wants to destroy our culture, we have a serious problem as what made our country great is first and foremost its people and its culture.
as a part of the white christian settler culture of nourishment and prosperity, i feel seriously threatened by actual terror cells forming in parts of the city where the police are afraid to enter.
i feel it is regrettable that our crime rate skyrockets as our borders are being ripped open by what to feels like it could only be big corp. or people who do not know whats best for themselves.
>>71000163
that claim has some pretty strong empirical evidence behind it
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf
>tl;dr: your opinions dont matter if you arent rich, the USA is an oligarchy
check out the graphs on page 10
>>71009622
>but the banks are forced to give it to you because lol, american dream is about houses
>banks
>forced
the banks own the people who write the laws, retard
>>71009516
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/23/nation/la-naw-norway-gun-policy-20110724
"Five homicides committed with a gun were reported in Norway in 2005, the latest year for which the site has data confirming firearm-related murders in the country. In comparison, the U.S., which has a population more than 50 times greater, had 10,158 gun-related murders the same year, or 2,000 times that of Norway."
Yes goyim, norway is very vilent.
>>70999791
Dumbass America isn't real Capitalism. Real Capitalism hasn't been tried yet. Pick up a book sometime and educate yourself shitlord.
>>71000418
>BASED FLAG
>100% truth
I love you my white brother
