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>North Aleppo (April 14)
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DEVELOPMENTS (April 14)
>Syrian fighter jet shot down by ISIS in Al-Sweida
>ISIS claims to capture the Darbahom Oil Field in east Aleppo
>Battle for Aleppo city begins as Syrian Army advances in the north
>Syrian army, Allies storm and gain in Handarat area
>Russia denies claims of ISIS downing jet in Syria’s Raqqa
>Syrian Army captures Al-Mallah Farms in northern Aleppo
>Rebels flee across Turkish border as ISIS snatches more villages
>ISIS begins new operation to seize reconciled village in rural Damascus
>Syrian Army foils Nusra infiltration attempt in northern Latakia
>Syrian Army amasses 11,000 soldiers for the Aleppo offensive
>ISIS demolishes priceless historical sites in Iraq
Previous >>70942469
>SouthFront April 14
http://youtu.be/l9NUVIPJfDs
1st for MALVINAS ARGENTINAS
2nd FOR THE GLORY OF LIBYA
>>70973926
>tfw top gear no longer exists so you can no longer murder them over their license plates
apparently al mallah farms attack failed
more US and Turk weapons are flowing into rebs in Aleppo right now and it's showing.
>>70973926
BABAAAAAAAAAAAAA GIRLS WANT TO SUCK YOUR BALZZ BABAAAAAA
>>70974024
People overreacted, but it was fun af
7th for poisonous gas
>>70973811
Asking this again. Do not mind the copy and paste.
This has been on my mind, what if the coalition stopped providing air support to the Kurds in Syria and Iraq, and the regular Iraqi armed forces... Effectively ending all aerial campaigns the Islamic state... How do you see the civil war in Syria and the war in Iraq playing out? As it stands, Kurds were only able to hold out against the Islamic state in due part because of the coalition, had the coalition never intervened ayn al-arab would have been captured and much of North Aleppo would have fallen to the Islamic state as would hasaka province. So, what do you see happening if coalition just bails out
>>70974020
What was your initial reaction when you heard that Gadafi was dead? Happy? Sad? Angry? Confused? Indifferent?
>>70974020
>Libya
>glory
>>70973881
Its not that I haven't had weirder dreams but the carrot one just scares the fuck out of me
>>70974020
Ayy Libyanbro
I worked with some fellows from Gheryan and Abu Salim in Tripoli during the 2011 war
I helped translate some old military guides for them to teach em how to remove greenie
was a fun time
Anyone know why my filter isn't working, I can't filter Ottoman anymore?
>>70974240
remind me where ayn al arab is?
anyway, Turkey boosted YPG when they let Kurds pour into Kobani. so Turks ave no one to blame but themselves. Not to mention, YPG has support from Kurdish and Yazidi civilians.
>>70974417
ya zaza siktirgit aq mum söndüsü
>>70974024
Yeah that was a fun episode.
Argentina is so fucking civilized that they still try to lynch people, what a country. I also tip my hat for letting your (argentinian) economy go bust 3 times in a decade, quite the achievement.
>>70974336
Well, I can imagine. The scariest dream I've ever had was my cousin cutting me up with a chainsaw. And I like my cousin so I don't know why my subconscious would do this.
![[HorribleSubs] Anne Happy - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_23.43_[2016.04.14_17.06.17].png](https://i.imgur.com/xTn30RE.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Anne Happy - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_23.43_[2016.04.14_17.06.17].png")
>>70974417
works for me
>>70974240
As far as I know the Kurds are able to stand alone. All of the units we know of theirs are pretty much equal to a Republican Guard unit, and they are able to constantly hand ISIS or anyone else's ass in a defensive battle. As far as I know, they've only ever needed air support when trying to take land, and even then, not always.
>>70974543
Same
I love eating Carrots so I have no idea why my subconscious would do something like this either
>>70974646
>what is the entire campaign leading up to the battle of Kobane
ASSAD WILL BE DEFEATED
>>70974544
fuck you then
>>70974502
there's a joke between the economists that says "There are four kinds of countries in the world: developed countries, undeveloped countries, Japan and Argentina"
>>70974818
Pls tell me that's not a trap
>>70974764
What about it?
>>70974917
That's the guy with 2 dicks.
>>70974917
Isn't it obv? -DD
>>70974969
Filipino pls
>>70974971
Don't trust anything on 4chan anymore
>>70974922
kurds got btfo'd and pushed out of the entire kobane canton by ISIS and into a small corner of kobane town before USAF saved their asses
>>70975164
k then.
I wasn't aware of it, obviously.
>>70974911
wew lad. Have a bookcover dedicated to the falklandswar.
so does SAA control the farms or not?
>>70974911
I don't get it.
>>70974271
i wasnt sure, we started getting skeptical around the end of the war about the future of the Country especially how aggressive NATO had become, was very clear when Gaddafi died that they didn't care about us, they literally left and never looked back and we had to clean up the mess.
we are Angry is the answer.
he was shot by a Sniper from afar half an hour after he was captured when his captors called it in.
>>70974911
i agree m8
Assad seems like a cool dude. Too bad it's already been decided to regime-change his ass years ago.
>handsome
>doctor
>speaks several languages
>BTFO the US media on CNN
>BFF with Brad and Angelina
>smokin' hot wife
I mean, he's everything Americans want in a president t.b.h.
>>70974318
yes very much glory thank you.
i knew Turks were bros on the inside
>>70975759
>handsome
>doctor(cool)
>>speaks several languages(cool erdogan doesnt know english)
BTFO the US media on CNN
>BFF with Brad and Angelina
>smokin' hot wife
INTO THE PRISON IT GOES
>>70975553
I hope this helps
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/04/17/the_four_types_of_economies_and_the_global_imbalances.html
>>70975759
>BFF with Brad and Angelina
>I mean, he's everything Americans want in a president t.b.h.
I don't exactly want my President to be BFFs with Brad and Angelina. But Assad it is sad that our government insists on regime change.
>>70975759
His only mistake was aligning with Russia, desu. Satan himself could run a hellscape country, but as long as he sells America discounted oil, he will be included in the "international community" as a "fair and progressive leader".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GidffVAvnzw
>UPDATED | Every Day Syrian and Iraqi Civil Wars March 2011 - March 2016
I suggest to add this video to OP. It was just released, the day to day map of the war. It used to be on OP but was removed some time ago I guess because it was outdated.
>>70975164
Yup, kurds got btfo by isis before they began to get overwhelming aupport from USA&RUS. pretty embarrassing, there was dozen of videos of kurds fleeing Is.
>>70974369
My Mothers side of the family is from Gheryan, and yeah ive seen you guys many times, i once did an interview with some British fellows since i was the first guy who could speak smooth English they had met yet.
you had it lucky since Libya didnt see too much bloodshed
>>70975835
DESU. i like your country. and kaddafi becaz he helped us when we invaded cyprus.
>>70976062
really? sounds like Gaddafi, aside from his pretty neat policies he did some crazy shit
Nursa has a new armoured assault video out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXo-9pbV7F4
Title doesn't make it clear where it is from, probably Handarat.
Perfect mortar hit at 0:48. Really shows the utility of drones.
>>70976265
Yes he did. And turks like him.
>>70975944
Why isn't Palmyra included?
Daily reminder: the Assad regime has been buying oil from Isis.
>>70976598
also your country
>>70976300
not all, we have a fuck ton of turkish restraunts here and i know all the guys who work in the ones near us, they are pretty chill but they dont like Gaddafi much. almost all of them are from Antalya, other than that they are pretty cool guys.
gotta love Kebab Sandwiches and Safeha
>>70976512
Its there, at 5:15
>>70976650
faking turks everywhere -DD. We like him becauz he helped us nothing else. But he didn't deserve to die like that man.
>>70974369
>I helped translate some old military guides for them to teach em how to remove greenie
>>70976275
>perfect mortar hit
too perfect, so perfect that didn't hit anyone
>>70976784
mhm. doesn't make sense why your Government is supporting the GNC tough, they are part of the Muslim Brotherhood, unless Erdogan is a member of them he shouldn't be supporting them
>>70976849
>No one cared who I was until I put on the mask
>>70977049
Man he is Muslim Brotherhood fan and wants to restore the ottoman empire. What do you excpect?
He hans tons of video about ottoman empire ;D
>>70977049
According to Assad, Erodgan is a Muslim Brotherhood fanatic. Not a member of the organization, but he believes in the same shit than them and wants to become the sultan.
>>70976016
People always say that NATO did so wrong by getting rid of Qaddafi, but they don't understand that the war was already 100% going by the time NATO intervened, and if we hadn't removed Qaddafi, the war would have gone on, with more jihadis coming in from everywhere, Qaddafi using his air force to bomb everything and sub-Saharan African mercenaries to punish people who were against him. Basically it would have become Syria 2.0
Instead, it's fucked up and a pretty crazy place, but not completely destroyed.
>>70976936
Stop being an unfunny hater
>>70975553
There are economic models that predict what nations should succeed and fail. They work fine for all nations except Japan and Argentina.
Japan according to all models should fail but doesn't.
Argentina according to all models should succeed and doesn't.
Argentina is literally a joke in economics.
>>70974646
Kurds are not comparable to the Republican guard. At best, they are equivalent to the ndf forces. And it needs to be pointed out, that the entire battle for ayn al-arab along with the loss of Islamic state territory was wholly in part because of the aerial campaigns by the coalition.
>>70977670
WEW LAD
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT FLAG
>>70973811
CREEPY
>>70977529
He is already a Sultan. He is president for 14 years
>>70977673
That is patently false. Just comparing the volume of air support that Russia and the coalition provides to both sides shows that the Kurds receive much less airstrikes but perform much better in the battlefield.
>>70977613
>unfunny hater
ok, the unfunny part I accept it, but hater? What?
>>70977922
K*ds fight better than arabs because they have better weapons and aa. And alot of volunteer from west.(americans,british fags etc)
>>70977588
Not really. Gaddaffi had already taken the underhand. He would have crushed the rebels within months if not for the NATO intervention.
>>70977922
Okay then, explain this to me.... Why were the Kurds losing ground on all fronts prior to the air strikes?
>>70977383
If i pull it off, will you die?
Who knows?
Do you know why the SAA was still losing ground for a short period _after_ the airstrikes begun?
That was a rhetorical question, by the way.
Whoops.
>>70978375
for >>70978179
>>70978263
It would be extremely painful.
>>70978131
this is a dumb meme. He would have suppressed them in many places and taken much land back but he wouldn't have just destroyed them. It would have been the same as Assad's battles in late 2011-early 2012. The rebels could have gone underground and done guerrilla resistance, fled into Tunisia and Egypt to do cross border strikes (both would have protected them, especially Tunisia)and fled deeper into the Sahara.
KSA, UAE and Qatar and Turkey would have backed them regardless of what the US did, sending weapons and money in via Tunisia and Sudan. Jihadis would have made it a destination like they did with Syria. Even if Qaddafi managed to fully pacify Benghazi all of this would have happened.
An easy win for Qaddafi is, literally, a meme
>>70978608
True.
I believe there was apart of the Hillary Clinton leak where Gaddhaffi requested air support from Europe to help Libya end the Civil War quick, but we know what they did instead.
>>70978440
You're a big sandnigger
Tank is in such a hurry to retreat it knocks over a house.
>>70978875
I'll be honest, I've done this more times than I can count in World of Tanks and Armored Warfare.
It's shameful, but there's nothing you can do when you've panicked.
>>70978868
For you.
>>70978608
The Rebels were isolated in Benghazi and it was an orchestrated manvouer too, similar protests happened in 2006 which were instantley ended, this was all planned, it was Frances way to end Qaddafi Gold Dinar plan since if he succeeded Africa will be come too strong and the French currency would have lost alot of its power.
the first thing the rebels did was open the prisons which had contained many Al Qaeda members captured by Qaddafi, also they had extremely advanced weapons from the Get Go, NATO didnt just intervene from the beginning, they orchestrated the whole thing, Gaddafi never had a chance and urged his people to not fall for the mind games of the west
>>70979487
is it true that Gaddafi started saying all that stuff that the water is laced with drugs or was it merely western propaganda?
>>70974911
Hah, I get it.
Hezbollah post some pics of our soldiers on their positions
>>70980681
Thanks for the EXIF.
Negroid bartender hasn't taken my bill in over 15 minutes money has been laying on bar table ordered one drink time to leave .: what is with bartenders and them being slow , post experiences and reasons
>>70977670
I couldn' explain it better, caribbean familia
>>70980681
Can't wait for the time when they come to Donbass to return the favor. I hope Arabs can endure steppe winters.
>>70980501
bullshit, why the fuck would he poison Tripoli, almost everyone here loved him and it was where he was staying. its all lies
they lied about the Gas, they lied about the Water, the Lied about the Rapes and pretty much everything else.
you would think people would learn to question this shit after Saddam, especially since the same accusations used against Saddam are used against Gaddafi, as well as Assad.
Assad is said to Use Gas against his people and is a rapist apparently, the Rape story's are spread Locally rather than internationally since people would find discrepancies when looking at both Assad and Saddam
>>70980964
They lost a lot of people in this war, I don't think they are going to give back the favor
>>70981042
Thought so, over here on western media they tried everything to make him look like he had lost his marbles.
>>70977670
>Japan according to all models should fail but doesn't.
The Japanese economy has been sinking for quite some time.
>Argentina according to all models should succeed and doesn't.
Why would Argentina be the ideal place to have an economy?
>>70981246
I mean, dressing like a sofa didn't help his case.
>>70981232
Oh, I don't means only Hezbollah but all of them. SAA, Iranians, everyone. You are bound to see some of them after the Syrian war in Donbass. Even if the numbers will be symbolic.
>>70981598
https://twitter.com/ResistanceER/status/720390478936428544
>>70981295
>The Japanese economy has been sinking for quite some time.
This is absolutely true.
If it wasn't for their still rather large capacity for important AND excessive money printing (there is literally a 10,000 yen bill in common circulation) they would have gone bust long ago. But the problem is, the only thing that the money printing does is kick the bust down the road, but not only that - it ensures that the bust will be just THAT much bigger.
A relatively similar thing is happening in America, by the way. But America isn't going bust yet for similar reasons, plus the petrodollar, the military-industrial complex, etc. etc.
>>70981747
>rather large capacity for important
>for *EXPORT*
Damned autocorrect.
>>70974474
well back then we were supposed to make peace with ypgkk
when pkk started the war in turkey again they betrayed that peace, and the ypg is backing them with supplies from over the border and we cannot stop them directly
but then again, what was turkey supposed to do, leave people to die at the other side of the border?
>>70981042
here is m8
>>70982185
Turkey Should fucking invade ypg. Now. at night.now. 20000 special forces with air force tomorrow kamışlı will be ours
>>70974818
>>70982526
gotta say.
those are some pretty schwaggy outfits
>>70978608
If it weren't for NATO countries planning beforehand and then orchestrating and arming the protests every step of the way Ghaddafi would never have lost control of his country.
>>70983013
>Who needs plot when we have fan service
Fucking anime sucked ass.
>>70983013
>>70981747
So let's go back to Argentina. What about Argentina would make it supposedly the ideal place to the have an economy?
>>70983516
roach posting image for ants.
can't stick behaving like one pest can you?
>>70983711
That I don't know. I just know about the Japan point and decided to comment.
>>70983825
Speak human pls :DD
>>70983711
Argentina has a lot of the advantages of the US without the disadvantages.
>>70981295
>The Japanese economy has been sinking for quite some time.
It's stagnant. But it should be crashing. It should be exhibiting 1920s stock market crash levels of economic instability and social upheaval. Yet it doesn't. Sure it isn't growing, but not failing is what confuses economists.
>Why would Argentina be the ideal place to have an economy?
Large population. Good resources and a reasonably educated population. Shares a language with the rest of Latin America. Has a good natural port to ship goods to and from. And there actually is a lot of capital in the nations (but it keeps disappearing).
But it doesn't manage to become a fully developed nation. It's trailing behind Chile and Brazil. The latter of which is a huge surprise to economists.
I am a parts sourcer for a company here. I find shit that clients need and get it cheap. Which means I look globally since shipping costs are quite low. I have not once found a part for anything needed in Argentina, but I keep finding it in Chile.
Argentina is basically Latin America's Spain or Portugal.
>>70982185
I suppose you're right. Turkey did the right thing, and the PKK was wrong to betray that trust. I think they got all cocky after Russians arrived.
chilling and reading stupid posts from amerifats and other kuffar faggots.
>>70984373
He is my proxy ;DD
>It's stagnant. But it should be crashing. It should be exhibiting 1920s stock market crash levels of economic instability and social upheaval. Yet it doesn't. Sure it isn't growing, but not failing is what confuses economists.
Only the dumber ones, and the ones stuck with an ideology.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/rebels-recover-lost-points-1st-day-aleppo-offensive/
So its already begun has it?
>>70974462
Contract killer or cursed?
>>70984653
It's just another Naqba. Nothing to see here.
>>70984499
Not yet, they're testing, when you see all Aleppo on fire, then it started
>>70981295
You're looking at it wrong.
Japan has no innovation, their business model is fucking retarded, the social politics dominate business culture to the point of dangerous indecisiveness with a crippling lack of risk taken in anything, something that should destroy their economy with mind blowing stagnation.
They live on a rocky island with no natural resources and terrible farmlands, the latter causes Japan to rely on food imports in numbers that would make Africa blush.
And finally, they have one of the lowest valued currencies in the world, but instead of either moving to hyperinflation (like Hungary or Zimbabwe) or creating a new fiat currency to start from square one (like China), they just dealt with it and stabilized it in a middle ground that would be dangerous and untenable for other countries. They even recovered from the massive 1990's bubble that should have created a depression. It was a light recession.
Meanwhile Argentina is the opposite in all of these things, and yet their ability to fail miserably time and time again is baffling and marvelous at the same time.
When faced with economic issues that are anthills compared to the 1995 and tech bubble crisis that Japan endured, Argentina collapses miserably.
It's like the weeks where the stock markets lower 100 points compared to the house market bubble popping. Argentina manages to turn them into economic devastation.
They don't do anything right, and they have all the advantages pushing them towards the right path, but they cannot stop fucking up. They're a mother carrying home groceries. They hit a small crack in the sidewalk and lose it all on the fall.
Argentina is a fool sitting on a mountain of gold but starving to death. Japan is a blind man living on top of a mountain, but his thirst is always quenched and he lives comfortably overweight in his precarious home.
>>70985326
kek.
It's a shame we will never see barrel bombs ever again.
>>70984250
Reason for Argnetinas fuck up is socialist policies that while they try to help the population fuck up the economy in the long run.
I mean look at fucking Chile, they've had less historical advantages than Argentina yet they're one of the best and most stable economy in South America.
You know why they're one of the best, free market policies.
>>70985490
>Japan has no innovation
>>70984937
>alexdrago
>>70985846
That explains government failings. Not private business.
>>70985490
To comment on the Japan point (again, I reiterate that I know nothing of Argentina except for their blatant cultural appropriation of whiteness):
Regardless of your fairly valid criticisms of Japan, it all comes down to brass tacks:
Japan still has a large export capacity. (mostly because of America being a black hole of demand, but also of other countries - I can bet that any user of 4chan, of any flag has seen, in real life, a car with "Toyota" on it)
Japan is printing money like (literally) crazy, which, as I said, cushions their fall, saving everyone from bankruptcy __NOW__. I can't stress that enough. Eventually, it'll have to hit the bottom, and the pit they are digging as we speak is getting deeper and deeper and deeper.
Already, we are seeing signs of cracks in the system. Abe's Abenomics have recently received criticism of promising growth but delivering more debt. More and more people are driven into poverty (relatively - we're not talking Philippines level poverty in any way).
I don't know if Japan even holds any "reserves" or if such a thing is a foreign concept to them at this point, but their position is precarious indeed.
>>70986484
Increasingly common but still considered rare
my sister predicts isis will be gone by 2018
any opinions?
>>70986910
Have sex with her.
>>70986910
post her pics
>>70986910
As good a prediction as any
>>70986910
They'll be shrunk to the point where they don't actually hold any more land.
>>70987058
Maybe in Syria and Iraq, but the next big thing is Libya.
>>70986910
is your sister virgin?
>>70987141
or maybe italy, spain, portugal, and greece should make the new roman empire and have libya join
it'll be a single nation
an empire
>>70987258
uhh... right.
>>70986910
if you're 15, then how old is your imouto? 8?
why to you think an 8 year old girl's opinion matters to us?
>>70986910
Underage and ban evading, kek.
>>70987395
I want a qt 2d imouto tell me her opinions on the Syrian Civil war at length, by the fireside.
And hot cocoa comes into the equation at some point.
>>70987788
did someone say cocoa?
>>70973811
Russia should consider buying a few of these planes for the SAA.
>>70988019
They can just give them old MiG's and Su's.
>>70987361
well they all are poor, and they're all in the mediterranean, so obviously they would team up
>>70987946
Oh my!
I wonder if Cocoa would serve Cawfee to Suheil?
>>70985490
dont get me started on the indigenos.
Those fucking argentinians.
How the fuck did they manage to fuck up so badly with the meat?!
I don't even.
But it's cool tho.
I get to buy lika a Kilo of Steak for the Equivalent of 20cents, if even that. Everytime I'm over there, I don't care that I pay double of what is advertised in US Dollars. I don't even go through the trouble of exchanging money.
Argentina is so rich in so many things, and could do so much.
> Indigenos.
>>70988019
Based Tucanos.
Unfortunately, they'll get eaten by the Stingers the moderate terrorists delivered to ISIS recently.
They'll either need an A-10 which can survive it, or something that can drop bombs out of it's range or some ultra-modern bomber with a powerful ECM suite.
>>70988091
But this is more cool. It's like a P-51 but with modern electronics inside.
KILL FUCKING ANIME EXCEPT TRAPS
>>70988340
Yeah these guys are really cool, i wonder what the cost is compared to old mig-29s
>>70988444
but traps are against islam, amir atative
>>70988584
The mig 29 is pretty big guy. Much more expensive
>>70988751
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
>>70988584
~$12mil
Mig-29 is like ~$18-20mil.
>>70988805
29's are much smaller then su-27 thou. For pure ground attack, su-25 would be a better option anyway.
>>70988933
thanks, not that much of a difference as i thought
>>70989103
MiG-29 is an old air superiority fighter, too. Not a multirole or anything like that.
>>70988320
no one has stingers
give me proofs of 1 stinger in syria
>>70989173
It can multirole too, brah. Pretty much only the Mig-35 family is the only pure AA fighter in the Russian inventory.
>>70989218
http://www.ibtimes.com/syrian-mig-21-shot-down-us-built-stinger-missile-over-syria-2336698
Also some were allegedly in the Al-Rai weapon stash ISIS took from moderate memers.
>>70986302
Their business upper echelon is fucking horrid. That top description is what should be happening. For some reason it isn't.
read the whole post before you comment.
>>70986739
And yet their precarious situation, one they've been in for over 2 decades, is somehow working out. Their inflation rate is actually great compared to other countries.
The money printing aspect is overblown to nearly non existent. The 1970's is where this whole thing started, and yet they managed to solidify it even through a time period with 2 financial crisis (directly affecting Japan) in 5 years.
Abe's Abemomics should be severely damaging, but it's just another bump in the road for them. The Japanese collapse has been predicted since the 90's but has never manifested.
The criticism that the export market is keeping them afloat is a bullshit statement that comes from a lot of people. They should be correct, but it's not what keeps the Japanese economy afloat, it's a foundation of their economy. It's something they built and maintained, and something copied by China (albeit poorly because they don't live in a paradox) that precipitated their rise into one of the richest nations on earth.
Argentina didn't have to build themselves like Japan did. Japan rose from a feudal isolationist nation 40 years after Argentina became a nation. They only became a fully modern country with a modern economy after world war 2, and they had to rebuild their nation to do it. Argentina went from laziness to stagnation to full retardation despite their head start.
And your criticisms of Japan are just as valid as everyone else's. Everything you say should be correct.
The end result is that it's wasted effort. The predictions have never been right, and Japan should have failed a hundred times over in the last 40 years alone.
Do what everyone else does. Shrug and marvel at them. It's a complete waste to explain and rationalize the unexplainable and irrational.
>>70989218
The CIA hasn't give out stingers anymore. They only give out older Russian weapons that they get from Eastern Europe. It helps with plausible deniability.
>>70986910
Go away ottomanlet.
>>70989494
no, i'm not amir ational
>>70989434
Your conclusion is only partly right. Most people can just shrug and appreicate that Japan is still a "powerhouse", for now. However, I fear for the day it collapses and take the animus I love it with it.
I do not want the "Chinese Cartoons" meme to become reality.
>>70990126
>Not maining cho gath
It's like you enjoy losing
>>70990343
My main is adc. I finished platinium last year looks like i lost my fucknig skills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf69NkWsay8
/sg/ post what you're listening to right now
>>70990442
Let's not.
>50k kurdish tribe called jirki claims that pkk has attacked one of their leaders at a check point and declare blood feud
>pkk official states that the attackers weren't pkk
>on twitter another tribe leader says: "whatever you do this glorious flag will always wave over my fathers house" and share picture related
http://www.haber7.com/guncel/haber/1897368-jirki-asiretinden-pkkya-turk-bayrakli-gonderme
this is one of a few large kurdish tribes that declared war on pkk lately, they are losing support in turkey quite hard because of the failed peace process
>>70990420
I don't pay enough to have a rank so I don't know what you're talking about. I think that it is pretty much impossible to lose as Cho'Gath though. He can't be killed.
>>70990126
>not playing superior dota 2
send help
>>70990610
He is fucking op bites me and i die lol
>>70990718
I don't like dota 2 i played 10 hours i like playing adc in lol
>>70989403
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/708949860326617089
Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha
#SyAAF MiG 21 that was downed yesterday, was hit by a MANPAD according to @WarfareWW
>>70991135
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_system
>>70990442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ItHLz5WEA
>>70976598
It's their fucking oil and nothing would run without it; what the FUCK did you want them to do?
>>70990442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67MRAPKXzU
South Corean propaganda aimed to demoralize the people of best korea!
>Pyongyang’s ballistic missile launch fails – S. Korean Defense Ministry
https://www.rt.com/news/339664-pyongyang-missile-launch-failed/
>>70989493
>that picture
I don't like this meme.
The rebels still have TOW 2's. They're still recieving TOW 2's.
Just because the picture says otherwise does not discount the evidence. The fact that Iglas and now modern stingers have showed up in the hands of the rebels and Isis can not be explained away by a simple picture.
And also, they are sending fagots and then faktorias, also fagots. The listing is just like the packing list on humanitarian aid sent to Pakistan full of stingers for the muja.
Also like the southern air services transports.
They don't disguise it very well, but at a quick glance it would rarely raise people's suspicions. Even then, nobody has questioned why there's so many fucking American weapons in Syria. The few that do are ignored. Nobody of power seems to care in the slightest.
And normal people don't have the numbers to do a single thing about it either. It's an election year, and even something major like this, a thing which dwarfs the Iran contra affair, is not cared about in the slightest.
>>70991465
He just wanted you to reply to him.
>>70991641
>Rand would have stopped all of this but /pol/ betrayed him for the Trump meme
>>70991641
>The fact that Iglas and now modern stingers have showed up in the hands of the rebels and Isis can not be explained away by a simple picture.
There's no proof of that though. only ISIS claims.
>>70992106
Even if Rand "could" win, he'd only do so this Nov.
We're still in April, man. This shit would have happened either way
>thinking about ways to call in airstrikes
>looking for buildings in rebel held areas is too much of a pain in the ass
What if we managed to get some rebel's IP from twitter and pinpointed his location?
>>70992399
Ahaha that would be hilarious.
>>70992399
You'd get addresses in D.C., Brussels, Stockholm, Berlin and London then. Russia can't really bomb those.
>>70992480
True
>>70989315
MiG-35 is also multirole. There really isn't a fighter left a modern air force that isn't multirole.
>>70992480
But Putin can slip Polonium in.
>>70992641
Oh, shoot. I got the number wrong.
I meant the MiG-25/31.
The Foxbat family.
>>70992895
Those can do ground attack aswell, not that its a good idea, but still...
Greater AWOOVEMENT edition.
>>70992895
>Foxbat
Why are NATO codenames so fucking shit.
>>70989710
Almost.
I'm not shrugging and appreciating that Japan is a powerhouse.
It makes no sense, and no amount of effort wasted in a single lifetime will unravel the mystery of why they continue to not collapse.
You're shrugging your shoulders an marveling not at their powerhouse success, but because you're saving the effort other people waste in trying to explain an incomprehensible nightmare of impossibility that somehow exists and continues to do so.
It's a monolith that continues to stand perfectly without so much as a scratch. Some people think it's a challenge, that solving the mystery is necessary. People have spent their lives trying to figure it out.
Others think it's a rock. It's a nice rock, but it's a rock.
It's like taking LSD and trying to explain the impossible hallucinations you saw based on the logic of your now sober mind.
It doesn't make sense, it's not supposed to make sense, and it will never make sense. It's impossible but exists.
You shrug an marvel at it like people marvel at optical illusions. It's impossible so it's interesting.
That's how it was described to me by an economics professor who lived in Japan and married a Japanese woman.
I would like to think the nukes broke something like the universal rationality that exists elsewhere. That would be cool.
>>70992480
>He doesn't know about Putin's sleeper cells in the west
>>70993250
Foxbat is better then Fagot, so they are getting better at it
>>70993325
I was part of them but I lost my polonium-infused knife.
>>70993250
The newer version of the plane is called the Foxhound though.
That's an awesome name for a plane of that type.
>>70993211
>does not post Awoo
>>70993250
Meh. I suppose they just wanted literally any word that starts with an F and sounds unique to easily distinguish it.
>>70993280
Hahah, that's description's surely a bit too much for me. I'm only in it for the anime, desu.
>>70993520
GIVE ME YOUR BEST NASHEEDS
GLORY TO THE CALIPHATE
>>70993250
>NATO nicknames are shit
Get flogged faggot.
Most NATO nicknames are god tier.
>>70993596
>dem air intakes
>>70993620
You're going to get bombed soon, Hamid.
>>70993620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFK2LXxcW4E
>>70993250
Because it has to start with "F" for "fighter" and there aren't enough English words that don't sound retarded
>>70993620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4C5TBYHWtQ
>>70993769
yeah, there is "big" and there is "mig-25 big"
>>70993250
Flight Highschool is god-tier when you can figure out what the fuck it is talking about
>>70993778
Get ready to feel Allah's wrath, Chaim. Frightened?
>>70993936
The mig-25 is like strapping yourself to that really fat bitch at the bar.
but you go mach 2.5
>>70993936
Slav squatting will never cease to amaze me.
>>70993280
what do you think of the new fighter the japs are building?
>>70994252
HOW DO THEY NAIL IT EVERY TIME?!
>>70994205
>>70993936
>>70993769
I watched a documentary on MiG-25/31 one day when I was bored. It was a top secret project. Whenever somebody saw it then would tell them that it was an F-4 Phantom captured from the West to keep the secret.
>>70994695
The model they have right now is purely a demonstrator. It is too small to carry weapons. The real version will need to be much bigger if they decide to commit to the project. Boeing and Lockheed-Martin are both very interested in working with Mitsubishi on the project and they're engaging in talks with the Japanese government now. They've done some runway tests and actual flight testing is set for a month from now. That's all we know.
I'm going to sleep, good night /sg/
>>70995602
night brochile
Am i banned?
>>70994695
There's not enough out on the F-3 to give an opinion. The drawing board means nothing.
But the X-2 is really nice. I'm a huge fan of tech demonstration platforms.
Nothing will ever beat the F-15 ACTIVE
That was too cute and too amazing.
The 3D thrust vectoring using the paddles is incredibly interesting, and paired with the fiber optic wiring (something that should have been done on every jet a long time ago), you can make quicker maneuvers and decrease the initial turn radius, as well as produce a psychotic angle of attack at the same time.
The only limiting factors are pilots and the strength of the airframe. Also the fact that the cheap but efficient thrust vectoring will absolutely have issues with reliability. Expect to see things changed with that, and possibly even see catastrophic failure with the system during a flight.
They will likely remove it, as it fucks with the stealth and will have issues on par with the X-31. There's a reason the paddle based 3D thrust vectoring was dropped as a concept. I really hope they fix the issues and it stays however.
>mfw 100 degree angle of attack soon
If the pilot and airframe can take it, imagine how that would work when paired with the AIM 9X? It would be ridiculous.
The future skies could be filled with pilots showing each other a little trick they learned dozens of times in an air battle. We cartoon now.
>>70995602
fucking weakling. What is it, 12 AM?
>>70989103
>For pure ground attack
How about il-76 full of barrel bomb
>Batman
>>70996706
Thats ASE, "Assad Special Edition", custom order for Syria
>>70996501
>mfw 100 degree angle of attack soon
nigga the F-35 can do that NOW. So can the F-22 and several Russian planes
::::::: SYRIA PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS ROUNDUP :::::
>US, NATO Criminals, Liars & Hypocrites’ Failed Attempt to Deny the Will of the Syrian People
https://syria360.wordpress.com/2016/04/14/syrian-elections-2016/
7000 polling booths were opened across the country. 11, 341 candidates were proposed from across Syria with 250 to be elected to Parliament, including a number of female candidates.
>Contrary to spurious claims from western governments and media, efforts were made to open the voting to all Syrian civilians including those who have fled terrorists held areas.
>Bear in mind that over 90% of IDPs [Internally displaced persons] have fled to Government controlled areas, thus further discrediting claims that these elections are non representative.
>1.7 million of these internally displaced refugees have been able to return home
>Small government loans are being given to impoverished families to enable them to re-establish their lives
>It is guaranteed that none of these initiatives will be reported in the mainstream media
Obviously.
The Syrian “Dictator” goes to Vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqo8eDBFRNE
>Hipocrisy
Britain said Damascus’ decision to go ahead with the elections in the war-torn nation, where hundreds of thousands cannot take part, shows “how divorced (the government) is from reality.”
“The idea that there could be elections is not just provocative but totally unrealistic. It would be proof that there are no negotiations or discussions [in Geneva].”~ Francois Hollande
US State Department spokesperson Mark Toner said that the US “would view those elections as not legitimate in the sense that they don’t represent… the will of the Syrian people.
“So, to hold parliamentary elections now, given the current circumstances, given the current conditions in the country, we believe is at best premature and not representative of the Syrian people,” Toner said.
FOLLOW THE LINK FOR A FULL ARTICLE
>>70993250
>that image
>implying foxbat could outrun a valkyrie
The engine will toast if the foxbat goes mach 3
Valkyrie is cancelled because its expensivs and the arrival of icbm tech renders it purpose moot
>>70996922
Su-27 could do 120 degree
>>70997154
Holy shit some robot shoot up state dept. please
>>70975944
Thanks, American government
>>70997601
God bless Syria. Rest assured that if Assad and Russia win the day, their opinions will be as worthless as they truly are.
>>70997389
Yeah but the engine will toast AFTER it catches the Valkyrie, which will make the Valkyrie have to nurse poor foxbat back to health :3
LIGHT ENTERTAINMENT
>Putin solves the syrian conflict
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=HNxkMHChBN0
5 days until the Battle of Aleppo.
Are you comfy yet?
>>70994205
>Mach 2.5
Mach 3.2, and then the engine melts.
The SR-71 is a little more impressive in my book because nobody actually knows what the max speed is. A comfortable flight in excess of Mach 3.5 from Shull evading missiles in Libya is the best we are going to get.
Nobody really knows how fast she could have gone. The mig 25 melting her turbojets had a problem like that as well. To go fast enough to melt turbojets is psychotic.
>gif related
>an SR-71 doing low speed shenanagins and looking like a fucking nightmare come to life
>>70996922
They're all post stall maneuvers like the cobra. They're not controllable angles of attack.
A 100 degree angle of attack while retaining full controllable flight would be psychotic. The X-31 was capable of a comfortable 70 degrees, while the super maneuverable F-18 was capable of 65 with 70 pushing it. The F-35 is locked at 50 degrees and is only capable of the high angles of attack in testing.
It's like doing the extreme cobra compared to doing half of the extreme cobra and then just flying at the 100+ degrees you pushed your plane into. There is no stall.
That's the crazy shit that can happen in the future with fly by optic and the paddle thrust vectoring.
Put on the eurobeat, because we are about to take initial D into the skies.
>>70998753
Too early to get comfy.
Wait till the day before. It will be extra comfy.
>>70998758
To be fair, Migs also had to carry missiles and shit while going fast, not just cameras. And another thing i read recently is that americans had to use dummy companies to buy titanium from USSR
>>70996706
Obligatory post
Obligatory theme music
http://youtu.be/AWCvIcx0h6U
>the great preschool and bakery holocaust
Remember the 6 million loaves of bread.
Go to Google
Type in 2204355
Click "I'm Feeling Lucky"
???
PROFIT!
>captcha: 12th Ohio
>>70996372
no
>>70998753
I though it was 6 days
>>70999310
/thread themes/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XewOH8co2o
bump for patriotic fervor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJLbsizAmEw
>>70999003
The Mig was an interceptor.
The blackbird was a fast. It was the definition of speed which had taken a corporeal form.
And let's not forget that the Mig was created by mere mortal men.
The Blackbird was created by a God who, in his reverence, came down to earth to hand craft this beast and claim domain over not only the Earth and the stars above, but even concepts like velocity, friction, and gravity.
>you will never meet Kelly Johnson
>>70983006
Turks look like serious operators
pretty sure they would btfo any european military easily
>>71000595
>The Blackbird was created by a God
thats too far, man. I like it, but when i see someone going full fanboy over it, thats just bad
>>71000595
They actually did make an interceptor version of the SR-71 called the YF-12. The plane was slightly bigger than the blackbird to make room for holding missiles inside. The project was eventually cancelled when somebody realized that a plane that requires 20 hours of prep-time before it can take-off would never work as an interceptor. However, the missiles developed for the system continued to be developed and became the Pheonix missile system that served as the primary weapon for the F-14 Tomcat.
And yes this plane was actually built.
>>71000804
hope they're ready for eternal insurgency
>>71000804
>pretty sure they would btfo any european military easily
Britain or France could take them. Germany could not.
>>71000813
I'm not going fanboy over the blackbird.
Kelly Johnson was a god. The Mig 25 and the SR-71 are some of the most incredible feats of human engineering.
And their first flights were in 1964.
The Blackbird really was speed incarnate. It leaked fuel on the ground because it's design accounted for thermal expansion. It had to refuel after it took off.
While refueling, the tanker had to move at its max speed, something dangerous for the boom operation, and the blackbird had to move at a cripplingly slow speed where it was prone to engine blowouts and stalling. It's design was that specialized.
The fact that nobody knows what the max speed of the aircraft was, and if there even was a max speed, just makes it more incredible. It's criminal that no psycho pilot didn't just throw the hammer down until the engines (or airframe) broke. It's possible that the Aircraft would have disintegrated in the atmosphere like the space shuttle before the engines stopped accelerating the plane. Modern jets are a frightening thing when you realize there are more than a few that still do not have a max speed.
But Kelly Johnson was indeed a God. You simply cannot argue. It's just a fact.
