>you're not rich
>you dont' own a corporation
>you're swamped with college debt
Seriously? Why wouldn't you vote for Bernie? He'll do everything to benefit you.
>>70973807
Hes a commie and youre a fool for believing everything will be free
>>70973807
Because I'm not greedy enough to put myself ahead of my country (if everything he said were true anyways)
>>70973807
>you're swamped with college debt
Wrong.
Got my degree with no debt.
Fuck off faggot.
>>70973807
REMINDER TO IGNORE AND SAGE SHILL THREADS.
>you're not rich
i want to be
>you dont own a corporation
i would love to
>you're swamped with college debt
no, i got a useful degree
>>70973807
Holy shit, bernie is still candidating?
>>70973807
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>>70973807
>is going to raise taxes and reduce your income
>is not going to pay off your college debt and will in fact make it harder for you to pay it back
Sanders is for children and retards
>>70973807
>you're swamped with college debt
Even in his own plan he doesn't say anything about forgiving current college debt, learn his policies before you shitpost.
>>70973807
If I were American I'd only ever vote for Bernie if I wanted the system to crash. I'm not yet at that point yet.
>Always vote for the most racist and volatile candidate
>Will immediately stop doing so when a candidate mentions nationalizing all banks and prisons
>Until then I will just continue antagonizing Liberals because Liberal tears nourish me
>>70974230
no he's not, he's raising taxes on the rich. And there's no debt to be paid off when he writes it off.
>>70974248
Why wouldn't he forgive the debt? it's all free college, so al lthe debt would be removed.
>>70974491
>Why wouldn't he forgive the debt? it's all free college, so al lthe debt would be removed.
READ HIS POLICIES
I bet if you did more reading, you wouldn't support him.
>no he's not, he's raising taxes on the rich. And there's no debt to be paid off when he writes it off.
a 30% tax on every investment affects more people than you realize. Not to mention the enormous economic implications that would have.
>>70974665
We won't need such a big 401k anymore when he expands social security and medicare. So that 30% wouldn't hurt us as badly as you think
>Voting purely in your own interests and not for the good of the country
Stay pleb
>>70974085
So youre a temporarily embarassed millionaire?
>>70973807
hello sweden
>>70973807
>I don't mind if the pie shrinks as long as I get more of it
LITERAL Bernie supporter logic
DUDE FREE STUFF LMAO
>>70973807
I am actually inclined to think that he is a good candidate. If he was national-socialitst (building wall and no benefits for illegals) I would consider him best candidate.
>>70973807
My parents are in the top 0.5%. If this geriatric wins they're moving to Singapore.
What's good for the people is more important than what's good for me.
>>70973807
>we've got to apologize for slavery
I'm never gonna vote for such a fucking cuckold. Dude is a total pussy.
>>70973807
>>you're not rich
But I like guns.
>>you dont' own a corporation
But I like to say politically incorrect things in public.
>>you're swamped with college debt
>Seriously?
>implying I fell for le college meme
>Why wouldn't you vote for Bernie? He'll do everything to benefit you
Because he's a commie.
>>70973807
>do
>>70975088
>economics are a zero sum game
LITERAL retard logic
>>70973807
>>70973884
>>70973807
>assuming I don't own a corporation for tax purposes
>assuming I'm below the mean and would benefit from collectivist policies
HE'S A JEW WHO IS OPEN ABOUT HIS HATRED FOR THE WHITE RACE
He's even said "white people don't know what it's like to be poor"
He's a cuck to BLM
>>70973807
>>70973884
Nobody believes everything will be free you fucking idiot. He'll negotiate to find a reasonable compromise with republiturds.
>>70973807
>>you're swamped with college debt
He's not going to do a damn thing about my college debt and he's not going to reward me for actually having paid my debts. Once again, the guy that does what he's supposed to and pays their loans off gets screwed by the kike.
>>70975300
The fucked up thing is, even if Bernie was elected and white people all across the country collectively apologized for racism, it would never be enough. We could apologize and pay out billions upon billions in reparations and they would still blame whitey.
>>70973807
>you dont' own a corporation
You think nobody on /pol/ owns stocks? You've never invested? Why would I care what you think?
>>70973807
>He'll do everything to benefit you.
Destroying the economy and destroying freedom benefit me?
>>70975469
Look at this tool.
He still believes in the American the political system, what a naive little brat.
>>70975518
If he 'forgives' college debt the economy will crash
how do you 'forgive' more than a trillion dollars away?
It isn't possible , these college kids are naive and gullible.
>>70975068
How did I know you would bring that stupid liberal mantra up?
>lol you want to be your own boss and follow your dreams lol what a stupid head.
This is liberals excuse for why actual middle class Americans vote republicans. Its this or they just call them dumb and pretend they don't know whats best for them.
Liberals sure do like deciding things for other people in the name of the "greater good".
>>70975661
And that would be assuming he even would have the power or the means to do it which he won't
Because I am in the middle class.
Don't pull that 'He wont tax the middle class' shit. He has no fucking chance of funding any of his plans if he does not tax the middle class into being poor.
>>70974491
Ohhhh, so you're trolling. I thought you were just a reddit fag.
>>70975661
by taxing the 1% of corporations. And cutting miltiary, because the US spends too much on military. 1 missile costs like 100 million dollars, and we can do without 100 missiles lying around.
And since these engineers are smart and make tons of money, they can be placed into more productive areas of industry.
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
>>70973807
Americans are too classcucked to vote for him. Their loss. Hope Trump or Clinton shafts them hard.
>>70975469
What reasonable compromise? Taxing the shit out of your people or taxing the shit out of your people even more?
>>70975781
it won't matter if you're poor, your tax contributions will even itself out by improving the roads, healthcare, social security, and other needs. You won't be able to buy your mercedes benz, but you'll benefit by having better healthcare coverage and more social security wages.
>>70975844
>From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
i need a house more than you so im taking yours
>>70975673
>>70975068
>>70974085
I don't want to interrupt the bickering, but according to a fairly recent fascinating study by the National Bureau of Economic Research, poor Americans who vote in favor of the rich and against the poor don't do it because they think they themselves will be rich one day. It's because they perceive themselves as the second-poorest class in society, and not the poorest, and they feel that as long as someone else is worse off, they'll be happiest. If they're making $10/hr, for example, they don't want to raise the minimum wage for the guy making $7.25.
Just thought I'd throw that out there. Carry on.
what's trumps position on college debt? probably something racist like doubling the amount you need to pay back to keep the poor people poor
Murca has already starved and ignored so many people. You say that healthcare's suddenly free and it will be flooded with millions of 3rd world Murcan peasants who have been avoiding the hospital for years. System collapses.
You can't give Murcans free shit either. Murcans are stupid and need to be controlled with religion. You can't convince a Murcan not to steal or rape people without the threat of eternal torture. And greedy and superficial Murcans go through dollars like cocaine. So when you give them free shit, they don't educate themselves and they don't help others. They just piss it away on superfluous bullshit they've been hypnotized into desiring.
Murcans need to be brought into the [CURRENT MILLENNIUM] slowly.
>>70973884
He is a commie like Trump is literally Hitler
>>70975986
Good idea. Why don't we just let the government manufacture everything the people need. Sure we would have to be slaves but hey, at it won't matter because you get benefits like food and shelter.
Why do humans have the desire to be slaves?
>>70976108
We can just follow Canada's lead. You guys have a great economy right now
>>70975986
>You don't know what's best for you, the government knows whats best for you.
Please kill yourself.
>>70975360
>Canadian economics
I never claimed it was a zero sum game. I was just pointing out the well known fact that there are tremendous deadweight losses associated with nationalization and that rigid labor laws destroy employment and significantly lower GDP/capita
I can dumb things down for you a bit, in sure you had a tough time understanding the above sentence given you're a Bernie supporter
>>70976149
Governments are supposed to protect the people. Social Contract theory states the people provide for the king while the king protects the people.
Same thing here. We give more taxes to the government, they'll protect us more.
>>70976108
>they don't help others
Americans give more to charity than any other country on the face of the Earth.
>you're swamped with college debt
I'm not, because I didn't study at a fancy private university without being able to pay for it.
>b-but your EUROPEAAANNN
Yes, where public college is free. Just like in the US.
>>70976048
That sounds like complete conjecture. Source please.
its sounds like commies just need an excuse to tell them why "the people" don't want their ass backwards economic system even though it would benefit them personally.
>Everyone only votes for personal benefit.
>>70973807
Bernie's problem is that he came too early. Communism won't come to America for at least a few more decades
>>70973807
In Canada, people like him are the reason you don't have to be scrooge McDuck to get 35% of your pay check stolen from you by the government.
$20/ hour and that's what I'm taxed at, 35%. In other provinces, it's even worse. Don't trust Bernie, the cost of everything will sky rocket, and your gross pay will drop. Our free health care isn't even that great, if you have a chronic illness, you will spend several months on welfare just waiting to get properly diagnosed, and then treatment for it will cost you hundreds of dollars every month.
>>70976373
>Yes, where public college is free. Just like in the US.
US isn't free. It's heavily subsidized though if you maintain a minimum of a 3.5, and get grants and not loans.
>>70973807
I'm not a retarded nigger lover with a PhD in nigger loving studies and outstanding debt in the 6 figures.
I have a masters and no debt, and my taxes would go up under hernie.
Get your own shit nigger.
>>70973807
Communism only benefits the poor in the very short term.
>>70976266
Now I know you're just trolling.
>>70976075
>the government determines the cost of college.
You better be shitposting aussie
>>70973807
>you're swamped with college debt
>im-fucking-plying
>>70976373
>Yes, where public college is free. Just like in the US.
Technically it's not free, it costs differing amounts based on a number of factors. My tuition for my local university amounts to ~5k a semester (that's living off-campus), but it's completely offset by scholarships and pell grants that pay for everything..
>>70973807
>make college free
>unless you already paid for it lol
Fuck him
>>70976293
So you're telling me I'm wrong? We can give underprivileged Murcans free shit? I'm not so sure about that. You sure they'd make their communities better off with it? I was under the impression they were greedy, disgusting slobs that can't be given any liberties or dignity?
>>70976583
>>the government determines the cost of college.
He is right though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMGoB01qiA
>>70976113
>He is a commie like Trump is literally Hitler
No, Sanders has nothing but good things to say about Castro and Che, says they be gud bois. He also Honeymooned in the USSR and part of a communist group, so yeah, he's a Commie.
>>70976743
I'm saying that the Americans who earn money give the most to charity. Some Americans are beyond hope. It's probably 50-50 which one you'd get.
>>70976482
It's actually not a whole hell of a lot better here.
I think I paid ~27% last year.
>>70975986
I have had no problems with the health coverage I voluntarily pay for. Plus I dont have to deal with the insane waiting periods that I would have to deal with in any nation with socialized healthcare. I have little interest in social security. I am smart enough to actually fucking save up for my own retirement. I would prefer the money that is taken from me and others like me for social security to be given back. I would be able to afford all the things you mentioned plus more with a middle class wage. I know what I want much more than the government knows what I want.
I'm not just an ordinary middle class citizen either. I was not born into it. I was born poor as dirt. Our household fucking struggled to keep the power and electricity on. I have seen my family resort to government handouts, then become dependent on them until they were refusing very good job offers (~50k) for the most menial of reasons like 'I can't stand all day, it will hurt my back'. I got fucking tired of it, spent insane amounts on an education for a job that would actually get me money, then because of that choice I had no issues at all paying my student debt because I was able to get a good job fairly easily right out of college.
This shit does not benefit anyone of any class other than those who seek to be dependent class, and the increased tax hikes would expand that dependent class into people who were in the middle class before they came into effect.
>>70973807
>I'm skilled and young
>I've co-owned and founded two already and will own more.
>I'm not swamped with any debt what so ever.
And you know what? I like Sanders, think he's a sweet ol' hippy and though likely to create obstacles for people like me, his policies are at least compassionate.
But I believe the human soul is nurturedby goals, hop, climbing and achieving so I'm going to MAGA with Trump. Anyone who believes the same should too. "Ask not what your country can do for you" as one fmaous democrat once put it. Time to MAGA.
>>70975046
Why else would you vote? Individuality trumps collectivist communist thought.
>>70973807
>Don't care about money
>Own my own mechanical trade business
>Have more dept with wholesalers than I ever did with college
Plus US politics are none of my business.
I imagine people would like for the economy to be capable of supporting some jobs when they graduate from free college.
i will never understand why the proletariat votes for the bourgeois
aka poor rednecks voting for trump
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>>70973884
God, people like you are so fucking stupid.
OF COURSE EVERYTHING WON'T BE FREE
>>70973807
He's not gonna get rid of your debt though. The only candidate who has stated a plan to make college education tuition free plus erasing student loan debt is Jill Stein.
>>70976846
Best not to marginally increase tax rates on those generous rich earners since they're just going to give away that much money anyways. We wouldn't want filthy American peasants climbing out of the crab bucket.
>>70976980
Because the democrats don't care about poor whites. And they know that Bernie offers then no chance of giving then a better life
>>70973807
Im allready poor I dont want to pay a higher payroll tax each week out of my check
>>70975469
>he'll negotiate
So the guy who gets his stage taken over by niggers, the guy who crumbles down in debates, etc. will negotiate it? kys
>>70977195
i really think you're mentally retarded and it took less than 140 letters to figure this out
>>70973807
He's fucking retarded. His main talking points are breaking up mug big banks and making college free. He has absolutely no fucking plan to accomplish this. Bernouts are retarded
>>70977154
"Marginally" isn't 10-10% on income and 30% on stocks.
>>70977277
>alt right
spotted the delusional fag who thinks a businessman who cheated his way into wealth can run this country
![1320855300113[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/C6XF6oi.jpg "1320855300113[1].jpg")
>>70973807
>Wall Street has corrupted our government!
>I know lets make the government bigger!
Remember to sage slide threads
>>70973807
Because I'm not buttblasted over majoring in something stupid. That's why all these young people support Bernie. They can't take responsibility for choosing a useless degree and subsequently not finding a job related to it.
>>70973807
> it's all about what will benefit you
>>70976848
What makes it more devastating is the cost of goods. In the United States, Subway advertised $5 foot longs, for us, a foot long costed about $8. A $3 difference might not mean much, but we don't eat once/day. Everything is more expensive and it adds up, having to pay almost 10% more in taxes doesn't help.
If you want a good laugh, compare how much you pay for beer, to how much a Canadian does.
trumpfags explain to me how bernie sanders is giving shit for free if you know all about his policies
>inb4 no replies
ITT Trump Trolls too retarded to reason or read any policy from political candidates.
>>70976980
They are literally cucks. Poor rednecks in trailer parks are literally where the modern form of cuckolding comes from. Racist shitheads that secretly want a nigger to fuck their wives. Kind of like all those Christians that hate gays a bit "too" much.
So, since they are cucks, they like to see a big strong confident man do all the fucking. They can't do any themselves. When you talk to them the way Trump does, they turn into victims and get all passive, technical, and whiny about how unfair you're being. But Trump can say any bullshit he wants and derp all over the place and it's not a problem. They like to watch and don't mind a little mess ;)
>>70977315
>smdh i can't even
please god, raise senator mccarthy from the grave to save us from this mess of a people that communism has created
Personal responsibility
>>70977315
Go ahead and name a time in the past decade the democrats helped poor whites
>>70973807
Yeah I'm not sure his Darwinian economy, which is what kind of economy we'd have after his economic plan crashed our economy, will benefit me in any way.
Well other than the implicit lawlessness that would allow me to kill every nigger on site but I don't feel that's really worth it.
>>70977665
Almost politically correct Hillary
This could be a good meme
>>taxes to go up for 'free healthcare' still waiting for my 2500 back for Obama care potential savings
>>free college for Muhammad and jose while I still pay back 100k, further dilute the BS degree value.
I might actually give a fuck if he was talking loan forgiveness,but it's not, it's all for new gibs. The rest of his gibs are for non white non males.
Because there is more to politics than voting on shortsighted ignorant perceived self interests, especially when that person will damage Liberty, engorge the government and take from others and destabilize things to give you your gibsmedats.
>>70977638
thats the problem with american politics, dumbfucks just literally vote for whoever is most entertaining ... it's the dumbest shit ever.
>>70977665
>conservatism is good
>2016
Maybe back in the old days where religion and base values could prosper this country conservatism was good, but now where technology and science is at an all time high; it is not the answer
please remove yourself from this great green and blue earth
>literally supporting a party that turns a blind eye on climate change
>literally supporting a party that cares more about money than the health of the planet
>literally supporting a party that encouraged the invasion of vietnam
>>70977776
Whites are born out of privilege. If you think I',m a cuck for saying this kill yourself.
It's clearly fact that if you are white you get more job opportunities, college calls etc. There is data to back this up, yet I guess I'm a cuckster who loves niggas! XD
>>70977960
>you're probably poor
>you're still doublethinking yourself that crony-capitalism is the best thing we have
>>70976980
http://takimag.com/article/why_democrats_lost_the_redneck_vote_scott_locklin/
Also Trump's policies will directly benefit the "proletariat" unlike the democucks' who want to bring in ten million more hispanics and muslims to compete with them
Anti-immigration has always been a cornerstone of pro-union/labor policy, right up until your ideology got hijacked by corporatists and you were too stupid to notice since they paid lip service to your faggotry and abortions
>>70977757
>Implying I can be anything but rich as a white man.
OP is delusional and needs to check his privilege.
>>70978060
>will directly benefit the proletariat
this is how i know you're fucking pants-on-head retarded. He's giving tax breaks to everyone... does Trump realize we are still in debt and if anything we need to slightly raise our taxes?
I have every reason to believe that this will not promote growth but do the opposite, low taxes only works if the economy is in good shape, which it kind of isn't idiot
>>70977776
Name a time they helped poor minorities in the past decade.
The two parties are the same faggot. Both are corporate cocksuckers and don't give a shit about anyone who makes more than 6 figures. There's probably a few exceptions within the parties, but they are considered outsiders,
because i took out college loans to get a good job
now that i'm close to graduating and getting said good job, bernie wants to take my munnies away
>>70978046
>It's clearly fact that if you are white you get more job opportunities, college calls etc.
[citation needed]
You know the opposite is true. But based on your other responses you're just a troll with nothing of value to say.
because retards on /pol/ are not smart enough to vote in their own interests
>>70978222
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/01/28/us-education-still-separate-and-unequal
i'm such a cuck oh boy!
>>70978046
Yeah no you are either a troll or retarded
>>70976758
still better than fucking TRUMP
Higher taxes, shilling and racism are his end game.
>>70978280
Taking money from my dads stash would be in my self interest, doesn't mean I'm going to do it you faggot nigger.
>>70978046
You mean it's clear if you're born white you're 50% less likely to kill someone or rob a store before the age of 18, things which tend to impede the willingness of others to hire or educate you
>>70978193
Don't pretend you give a fuck about the debt when you intend to use any of that extra tax revenue on handouts to niggers and single mothers. And you only raise taxes when the economy is in good shape you shit eating retard. It's the other way around. Keynes was logically correct, even if every single politician is too retarded to follow him in practice.
>>70978046
I know it must be bait if you think LBJ was a conservative. Literally Great Society cucked us up for the next 200 years.
And lol at you just making fun of the guy asking for help for poor whites. Poor whites are some of the poorest people in this country. Niggers choose not to go to school, but whites in Appalachia do not even have schools, or police, or hospitals. Practically Nicaragua up there.
Muh white privilege
>pic related
>>70973807
>>70978467
>economy is a completely complex and dynamic thing that literally never stays at a pure constant
>KEYNES WAS RIGHT!
oh shit dog what are you saying
>>70973807
He's the left wing of fascism and there to hold capitalism neatly in place, fuck him.
>>70978193
>lower taxes when the economy is doing well
So we should raise taxes when the economy is doing poorly? What the fuck? Talk about compounding an economic crisis.
>>70973807
Shit up liberal retard
Talking to your kind is like teaching Spanish to a rat
>>70973807
because I'm not a selfish faggot who wants to burn the entire nation for my own personal benefit.
>>70973807
>I'll never make anything of myself so I should vote for Bernie as a young person and give up trying
Because he doesn't give a shit about whites, so why should I want to vote for him?
>White people don't know what it's like to be poor
Bullshit. I guess me, my parents who were poorer than me, and my grandparents who were dirt poor don't know shit about having live day to day with no money.
>>70973807
He'd just make things worse
the rich don't have enough money to create demand
>>70978425
how is that equivalent penchod?
>>70978612
Are you a nigger?
All you're doing is dodging points and spouting nonsense. You think raising taxes and adding millions of people to the labor pool and hiking the minimum wage will all somehow benefit the lower class? The money will dry up and it'll fail just like every socialist shithole the hispanic mongrels down south have built.
>>70977638
a fucking leaf
>>70978046
Not poor. I chose to get a BS and a MBA. The debt is my responsibility. I have a great job and benefits because of those credentials I worked towards. Is it annoying to pay them off? Yes. But what moral authority do you have to punish all the people that delayed marriage,kids,or a home to pay their student loans back?
I'm not paying 7000 more a year to feel altruistic. I can do donations at church and habitat for humanity and feel great too.
>>70973807
>ruining the economy benefits me
>>70978824
Where the FUCK is the notion that we want to just live off of the fucking government by voting for Sanders?
We want to have a better opportunity in the world, and that's probably last thing (good) Sanders supporters want.
I fucking hate the alt right, always thinking that people are freeloaders... fucking get off the propaganda wagon that feeds you this fucking delusional view of life you crony-capitalist faggot
>>70978985
no, and if i was it wouldn't matter you delusional faggot
>>70978346
>usnew.com
Great source retard lel
>Since the killing of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, by a white police officer
Uhuh :^)
>Lower expectations become self-fulfilling prophecies
Yeah it's the parent's expectations that cause this, not the fact that IQ is heritable. :^)
>78 percent of black children were read to with the same frequency.
Once again it's the coon's parents fault.
>But black children are much more likely than white children to be enrolled in low-quality day care.
This is literally pulled out of their ass. They give no reference nor citation for this figure and even if they did what is their standard for low quality or high quality care? Literally meaningless
Explain pic related you worthless cuck
>>70978985
he's a beaner
you can tell from the broken english
>>70973807
>you're not rich
I'd like to be, one day.
Hard to get there with Sweden-tier taxes.
And hard to get any business done with a Husby-or-Malmo-tier society.
>you dont' own a corporation
Again, I'd like to.
And I don't think that owning your own enterprise is somehow evil.
>you're swamped with college debt
Except I'm not.
Thank you, dead grandparents.
>>70979130
>blacks complain and make a big statement that acceptance rates for them are absurdly low
>uni and colleges see this and now make cultural diversity a main point in their mission statement
ok
and the website itself isn't a source you fucking idiot look at the graphs and they have sources on them you illiterate retard
>>70978958
Because just because something helps you doesn't make it right or the proper thing to do.
Taking money from people with bernigger level taxation might help you on the short term but actually on the long term would hurt the whole nation and you. He will also further take away your rights so good luck with that.
Nope, I'm middle class and he wants to raise my taxes more than $4,000. I make $42,000. Fuck that cuck
>>70978869
They didn't, they're white. They never were harassed by thte police, didn't get refused loans because of their skin colors, passed over job promotions, endure countless number of racist jokes, or be discriminated against simply because they looked different. You're only poor financially, you're not poor spiritually as well
>>70973807
>>you dont' own a corporation
kek
are people this stupid?
all you need is $100 and internet access and you could own a corporation
>>70975028
>Expands social security
Holy shit no
That is a failing system that needs to be abolished as soon as possible, not expanded!
But of course a Sanders supporter doesn't understand that the math doesn't work, mathematics are not a socialists strong suit
>I plan on being rich
>I plan on owning a firearms related company
>I won't be swamped with college debt because I took 3 years out of my life to get my gi bill
Seriously wtf. The wussification of the American male has gone too far. Want free college? Don't bitch about rich folks involuntary giving you free shit, man up and join the army, or make your own fortune thanks to the free market to pay off college debts.
>>70973807
You're the cuck, Bernie is the bull.
Won't someone PLEASE pay for the mistakes I've made that I don't want to pay for myself? Why can't someone do it all for me?!? Why am I responsible for my own finances?!?? RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
>>70975469
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Oh fuck you actually believe that don't you?
You poor silly bastard.
>>70979519
>join the military!
>get shot and die
>Never get to use the GI bill
GREAT ARGUMENT THERE
>>70979397
this, it's unequivocally true
It sounds liberal as fuck to say whites aren't REALLY poor but it's true, whites are born out of privilege this is a fact.
I mean what race was enslaved in the US and which wasn't. It's that simple.
I WANT to be rich someday.
>>70973807
He'll benefit degenerate poor people, not the middle class.
>>70974078
This. Ignore the shill.
>>70979519
>man up and join the army
>MAN UP AND LEECH OFF TAX PAYERS TO GET A DESK JOB IN THE ARMY
nice buddy, it almost sounds like you're the embodiment of which you hate
>>70979519
>armed forces member
>implying that he earned his and it wasn't welfare
>>70977494
My reddit senses are tingling.
>>70979253
Learn to use English before calling other's illiterate. I didn't say the graphs didn't have sources, I said you provided it as a source.
Do you know how citations work? This is why affirmative action is bad, we have literal retards with only a tenuous grasp on the English language that think they're educated.
>>70974491
He's raising the taxes on everyone, friend. Oh, wait your unemployed and that doesn't concern you, my bad.
>>70979397
>They were never harassed by thte police
They were. They also didn't punch cops and think they could get away with it
>didn't get refused loans because of their skin colors
They didn't get loans because they wouldn't be able to pay them off
>passed over job promotions
Which is why my grandparents both worked in factories? And my parents have never been promoted?
>endure countless number of racist jokes
Oh shit, JOKES. How horrifying.
>discriminated against simply because they looked different
I'll give you that, I guess.
>>70979606
If you go back far enough, everyone had an ancestor who was enslaved by somebody.
>>70979397
>>70979606
(You) guys are faggots.
>>70973807
Fine. I'll just give up on go on the plantation. Why bother go to work?
>>70979738
I don't understand how pulling a straw out of my argument gives you that conclusion anon
>>70979774
>IN THE U.S.
Clearly there were fairer skinned slaves but we're talking about this country here buddy, nice evasion of the fact
>>70973807
>swamped with college debt
No, I have $13k in loans and I'm working a $55k a year job, I've got it well under control.
These sob stories you hear about fags getting philosophy degrees and $80k of debt are a very, very small minority.
We're looking at 0.1% of the population who will be enslaved by government garnishment of their paychecks due to student loans, and they have it coming due to their moronic decisions.
If you don't value personal feeling and instead require "freedom of the group," he benefits you.
Which means he doesn't.
I own a business why would I vote the guy who wants to tax me more to pay for you lazy shits? just get a job lazy fuckers. you already got a degree literally what else do you need
I've changed my mind. I want Clinton to beat Sanders. She won't rock the boat, she won't do shit for "minorities," she won't tax the rich. She'll string these stupid niggers and spics along while giving them absolutely nothing back, just like they deserve. Were only the Republicans so skilled at manipulating the mentally retarded.
It's the next best thing after a Trump presidency.
>>70979862
>Clearly there were fairer skinned slaves but we're talking about this country here buddy, nice evasion of the fact
>History before 1776 doesn't matter
>>70973807
>Gutman
>cuck
>commie
>the fucking Zodiac Killer
>>70979908
next on delusional americans who use their life as anecdotal true 100% evidence and fact that he isn't wrong This Fucking Faggot Is Pretty Much Smart And Basically You're Fukn Retarded
>>70979719
You disagree with national security? Seems to me, that's where I want the majority of my taxes going. Please explain your thought process.
Obama is having the battle of his life to get a program like Obamacare funded, how in the fuck is Sanders going to be able to pass a goddamn single payer commie health care system?
>>70980029
Our national security budget/plan is fine as it is, in fact it's so fine that even a budget cut wouldn't hurt us.
You really think we need a BIGGER army?
This isn't 1940 anymore General Retard
Gun grabber
>>70980000
REPEATING DIGITS
>>70980244
I can't believe someone didn't even take a fucking minute to read that back to himself and think what a terrible formed argumentative satire piece this is.
And secondly, I can't believe a retard on a Kazakstanian image sharing board posted it thinking that he was right.
1) surely there will be legislature to block the leechers of college who stay there indefinitely
2) surely you are fucking retarded
>>70980029
We already have like 10 aircraft carriers. We are absurdly well defended. That F-35 program the Republicans keep bitching about has already spent over a trillion dollars on a plane that is basically just as efficient as the last model.
Absolute waste. We should instead cut taxes on the poor and middle class.
>>70973807
>I'm not rich
>I don't own a corporation
>I don't own a home
>I live paycheck to paycheck
>I have a son
>His tax plan will increase my taxes paid each year by 400%
I mean.. I like to eat food most days.
>>70973807
Because I just paid off my college debt this month with the money I earned from my 9-5 job and my 6-8 job.
>relying on another man-a yid at that- to break your shackles
(rake my shekels, maybe)
>>70973807
>"Muh Socialism"
>Benefiting anyone.
100 + years of failure on the part of Marx and his retarded ideas are enough for most of us.
Kill yourself.
>>70973807
Morality is more important that material shit. I may not have all the things some people have. I earned what I have and so did most of these rich people. It is wrong to steal, no matter how little it may harm someone it is fucking wrong. If you cannot understand this you are a nigger tier pleb. Virtue is what make humans great this candidate does not represent virtue at all. In fact I would say he advocates the opposite. The people you are talking about have debt and it's their problem and I will not let it become other peoples problems so you can subsidize the stupidity of your voting block.
>all the DUDE FREE STUFF LMAO clowns in this thread
Normal people SHOULD vote for the guy who promises them the most stuff. They should vote for their immediate self-interest. After all, rich people are voting for their self-interest too (voting for the guy who'll give THEM the most free stuff / opportunities / asspats), and thanks to decisions like CU they even get to vote with their wallet too, in a way regular citizens can't.
Why do the middle class love to roll over and shill for the wealthy so hard? You're not rich peoples' friend, and they're not yours. Vote for your interests, because you better believe they'll be voting (and lobbying) for theirs.
>>70980166
You are correct, it isn't 1940, however I believe that federal taxes should go to more practical things. Priority being keeping the nation secure. You see, if we have security, only then can we be legitimately safe to continue on with daily life, economic progress, whatever. Then we wouldn't have to fear anything coming and taking all our shit.
>>70980244
Guess that makes Rick, the objectively smartest person in that universe, the democrat?
Sounds about right family :^)
>>70978363
>A FUCKING LEAF
>>70980432
it's just an image, bro
doesn't change the fact that he's a gun grabber and therefore cannot be trusted.
>>70979862
>alt right
>bad
>Bernie supporter
I mean its clear your from reddit since the beginning.
The government is a business and Trump didn't cheat his way to successes.
So how exactly is Bernie a good deal maker? The only things he ever passed where name changes to post offices.
>>70980665
You seriously think if we cut a few million from our Nat. Defense budget that we'll perish from some random ISIS attack?
We'll have more than any country if we do cut the budget
>>70980448
I agree we should cut taxes whenever possible. What we need to stop doing is dumping money into useless social programs and put it towards practical things like national defense and infrastructure.
>>70979397
>discriminated because they look different.
They also act differently and they have an average IQ of 85
>>70979397
>discriminated against simply because they looked different
>>70980614
Voting for immediate self-interest isn't necessarily a good thing. One should vote for the decision that will create the most happiness.
>>70980614
Short sightedness
If sanders really does forgive student debt I want a fucking refund for my diligence and responsibility for paying mine off in five years. Also, additional compensation for the hard work it took to get my scholarships.
>>70973807
>you borrowed against your future because your parents didn't do all that much for you and you're too young in your career to have overcome the debt and made a good life for yourself
FTFY. Just because most of us are in our 20s and early 30s doesn't mean we're stupid. Fuck off back to your home (pic related).
>>70973807
>swamped with college debt
No I'm not. I actually gave a shit in school and I got so many scholarships I'm going to have made a profit just from going to college. Student loans are not a fact of life.
>>70980823
I gather you would be satisfied with a "good enough" system to keep you safe? Do you also buy second hand parachutes?
If Bernie was a smart man he would have promised a living wage and cited the eventual rise automation and AI as the primary motivation [to help displaced workers ect]. This would have ensured him at least two battalions of /pol/ fighters - The NEETS and /g/eefugees
But he is not a smart man and chose instead to pander to retarded reddit cucks and niggers about ridiculous college loans scheme and BLM
>>70980740
D- record from NRA
not a gun grabber, just a little scared about big rifles, what can you expect from a leftist
at least he didnt get an F
a lot of people in this thread probably think i'm a diehard bernie fan, in fact i'm kind of not.. i'm merely choosing the lesser of two evils ... i don't agree with his $15 an hour wage increase maybe like $10 or $9 but 15 nationwide is extreme and almost impossible
The only reason I'm not voting for him is that his administration would be an SJW free for all. I'm voting Trump based on cultural issues alone.
>Would raise taxes on everyone
>Would ban fracking, which is the reason gas is so cheap
He'd fuck over all of us
>>70981116
Is this real?
>>70976048
This actually holds some truth, although it's not because they want "poorer" people to suffer. If I make $15/hr and bernie raises the minimum from $8 to $15 then due to inflation I will lose half of my income
Why would you take out a loan on a bad degree?
Take up a fucking trade
>>70981125
>lesser of two evils
What evils would that be? Socialism is the second most evil ideology in existence right after communism.
>>70973807
>you're not black
Why would you vote for a democrat?
>>70976048
2% of full time workers in the US are on minimum wage
Only 2%
This is a non issue
>>70981487
I have a better idea. Don't go to college until you have enough money saved to afford it without a loan.
>you're not winning
>the corporations keep moving your jobs
>you're swamped with illegals
Seriously? Why wouldn't you vote for Trump. He'll do everything to win for you.
>>70980244
your strawman won't work here
>"I'm not in a position of prosperity."
>"There-for the policies of the State should change to benefit me by the cost of others, regardless of the potential consequences, cause who cares about future generations, amiright?"
Congratulations, you've became Greece.
>>70981116
Yeah, Murca needs to get smart. Spend tax money on killing jobs, not creating jobs. And tax some of those massive profits from automation to give every peasant some minimum standard of living.
Eventually, we essentially have apple (not the fruit, the fucking phone) trees that create products for us in our own homes with no fossil fuels, only raw materials. Scarcity will be massively reduced and we won't need much currency to survive and the taxation goes away. We just have to seize the means of production at some point so we don't all get enslaved.
OR, be someone that's doing ok on their own and on the right side of the walls when we send out the hyper-intelligent drones.
>>70980432
Here's the other part of it, the part that was supposed to be posted first
>>70980709
Juan, the fight isn't about the Democrats versus Republicans, only the retarded think that. It's WAAAAYYY bigger than just "red vs. blue"
>>70973807
>wreck my country
>benefiting me
mkay
>>70982295
Implying Rick is a Statist, ever.
Shame.
>>70981536
>hillary "I am only doing this for power" clinton
>donald "I am good friends with the political dynasty that is clinton" trump
>>70983314
>bernie "I wrecked the economy but at least you feel like you're loving and tolerant" sanders
>voting
>ever
no
>>70980991
>>70980928
Poor people with poor people reasoning. It's natural to be depressed, look inward, and criticize yourself when you're poor and every indication tells you that you're a loser that knows fucking nothing. Meanwhile, rich dumbasses have an inflated sense of self-worth and think they're good enough to take from losers who think they're being pragmatic and modest.
The basis of the American Dream has always been the delusion that ypou CAN become rich and you CAN own a corporation(I'm sure some poor people can if they're exceptionally gifted, but most can't).
This delusion of being rich is the life fuel of America. Poor cucks will vote for rich fucks because they actually BELIEVE they will be rich fucks someday
>>70974473
>having private prisons
Granted, prohibiting prison work is retarded, but making the prison be run like shit by the friends of a few politicians is worse.
>>70983478
Easy not to vote when you're 15.
I don't have college debt. I went into the military and got free college.
>>70983842
i pay taxes for this fucking retard?
>>70973807
>>70975469
>>70983952
You don't pay taxes lmao
I'm NEET and live off of my parents charity. I don't need handouts from the government. I hate Sanders though because all he promotes is class and racial division and he is an ineffective senator.
>>70983952
Murcan soldiers are the biggest fucking welfare queens alive. Murca has lots of them because it just doesn't feel right if there isn't a steady flow brown people getting killed somewhere on the planet.
>>70975469
no way dude
ill buy a pizza and YOUR paying for it
>>70973807
Because I don't want to sacrifice the economy for my personal """""""""""benefit"""""""""""
>>70973807
because I get up every morning to do something I'd rather not, and he wishes to take away more of my compensation for doing so.
>>70983575
The American dream is relative autonomy and space for even poor families allowing working class people to become near-middle class. That is the American dream. The lottery winning nonsense was made up by Communist Jews to destroy the dream, the way hypersensitivity to terminology was made up to attack freedom of speech.
Trump actually wants to do something about h1b abuse which is gonna be my biggest obstacle to getting an entry level job. I am voting in my best interest by voting for Trump.
I want a job, not handouts.
>>70982588
Tell that to the eblic strawman poster, Tyrone.
I was merely responding accordingly, ayyyy
>>70975360
Economics for the most part are a zero sum game. The positive sum comes from intellectual property innovations.
>>70973807
Because I'm already out of college and paid most my college debt back (didn't have too much because I got a scholarship and had a career plan going into college). The current system worked for me and I already get 30% of my check taken away for taxes. Why would I vote for someone who won't benefit me and tax me even more?
>>70975046
That's literally why you vote to begin with, if you don't believe in a democracy then don't vote.
>muh free college
>>70984081
someone who actually got the quote VERBATIM
unlike 999/1000 others who try
Would he remove my DACA?
Honest question, its not like I can even fucking vote.
>>70973807
False consciousness.
>>70987231
yes, but you won't need it afterwards
>>70989782
Could you explain further? I am not keeping up with this election and I pretend Trump does not exist because it is not good for my mental health.
>>70973807
US Churches are Corporations.
US Schools are Corporations.
US Towns, Townships, Cities, Counties, States are Corporations.
-
Democratic National Committee (Democratic Party) is a Corporation or Cartel.
Republican National Committee (Republican Party) is a Corporation or Cartel.
how does it feel pol/?
Betrayal?
And it looks like not a quick search on internet to prove this out... perhaps hidden fact?
-
Like State Budgets that use underfunded pensions to get loans or balance the budgets??
http://www.truthinaccounting.org/
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http://www.taxjustice.net/
https://www.citizen.org
www.ctj.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_consumer_organizations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_watchdog
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/census-immigrant-population-over-15-in-record-16-states-over-25-in-6/article/2586955
http://cis.org/Camarota/Map-Number-Immigrants-Minor-Children
Immigration by the Numbers -- Off the Charts
www.numbersusa.org
http://WWW.USAWatchdog.com
http://www.chapwoodindex.com/
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowstats.com
http://www.zerohedge.com
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/web/presidentialtaxreturns
http://www.Opensecrets.com
http://www.truthinaccounting.org/
http://www.dailyjobcuts.com/
http://www.globalslaveryindex.org/findings/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Slavery_Index
http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/rental-households-number-of-renters-homeownership-rate-middle-class/
http://www.activistpost.com/
>>70974259
I'm pretty close to that my leaf
>>70976048
> It's the kulaks who are the real enemy of the people, not the elite vanguard of college educated revolutionaries. How dare they own more than one cow.
>>70973807
Bernie ignores the law of unintended consequences
>you're not rich
Not yet
>you dont' own a corporation
True, but corporations provide us with goods, and I don't want to pay more for shit due to taxes
>you're swamped with college debt
No, cause I'm not entirely ignorant about personal finances
>>70992611
>Not yet
lol
>>70993474
Its not hard if you know how to spend money. I make 35k a year and already have 100k in investments.
>falling for false promises from politicians
It's literally the oldest scam in the book.
Did you also invest in Ponzi schemes by any chance?
>>70993974
please kill me
>>70973807
>>you're not rich
And I never will be if Bernie is elected.
>>you dont' own a corporation
The ones that will either leave America to avoid Bernie's taxes or crush the little guy to make up for their losses?
>>you're swamped with college debt
I'm not though. Even if I were, that's my burden. My cross to carry. I'm not going to steal from other people to lighten my load. I have this cool thing called pride. It basically means I'm not a bitch who takes handouts from other people.
>>70973807
So are you saying that if you're stupid you should vote for Bernie?
>>70995156
pol is full of EMO Dudes.
Or ADD dudes.
If u R frustrated, could be you are dealing with rabble.
30 September 2014, Final Monthly Treasury Statement, Outlays and Revenues, Table 5.
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 2014 = $3.5 Trillion (B. Obama)
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 2012 = $3.54 Trillion (B. Obama)
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 2010 = $3.45 Trillion (B. Obama)
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 2008 = $2.98 Trillion (G.W. Bush)
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 2006 = $2.65 Trillion (G.W. Bush)
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 2004 = $2.29 Trillion (G.W. Bush)
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 2002 = $2.01 Trillion (B. Clinton)
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 2000 = $1.79 Trillion (B. Clinton)
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 1998 = $1.65 Trillion (B. Clinton)
Total-Federal Government Actual Budget 1997 = $1.6 Trillion (B. Clinton)
$T Debt Added
J. Carter, ,$0.37 T (4 yrs)
R. Reagan, $1.69 T
G. H Bush, $1.4 T (4 yrs)
W. Clinton, $1.627 T
G. W. Bush, $4.357 T
B. Obama, $6.365 T (4 yrs)
B. Obama, $8 T (6 yrs est.)
Here is the Salary Increases for Federal Employees:
Total--OPM Outlays 2014 = $138.63 Billion (What?)
Total--OPM Outlays 2013 = $133.7 Billion
Total--OPM Outlays 2000 = $71.8 Billion
Total--OPM Outlays 1997 = $64 Billion
