/pol/ BTFO
But they were mostly nigs so in a way you're a faggot
>>70971534
27 Million? That's all the ghetto's are worth?
>killed by guns
Sounds pretty vague.
Is this counting cases ruled justifiable self-defense and suicides?
>>70971534
DELETE THIS
Love these posts. They always say killed. They never specify. How were they killed? Were they homicides? suicides? Legal Self Defense situations? Accidents?
Abortion kills more niggers than guns do.
Praise Allah.
Or about $6 per NRA members
>>70971765
no clear homicides, no idea if they're counting police homicides
>>70971534
Our second amendment rights are worth more than 27million. The NRA is the only organization that fights for gun rights in washington.
>>70971534
>having to include suicide,accidental homicide, and justified homicides to inflate a body count to make your point
>>70971765
Yes it includes all deaths. 2/3 of that number are suicides.
But who cares about facts.
>>70971534
>having to include suicide, accidental homicide, and justified homicides to inflate a body count to make your point
so is this where /pol/ just acts like suicides don't count...for...some reason...?
>>70971750
Overpriced.
>>70971765
It's a infograph made by a liberal so of course it is.
>>70971534
27 million seems like a pittance, also the NRA is just a lobby group like any other.
>>70972336
Banning guns will not stop suicides and suicide is not inherently wrong either.
>>70972336
>Because no one would have died if they didn't have a GUN!
>Because the image isn't deliberately trying to mislead the reader into believing all of the "gun deaths" are murders
>Because people shouldn't have the right to take their own lives
>>70972336
There's no correlation between gun ownership and the suicide rate, much less a cause to get uppity about.
Why should we condemn guns for suicide cases?
>>70972661
>>70972693
>Banning guns won't stop suicide
Suicide is usually done as a spur of the moment thing. Having guns readily available means people have easy access to a quick and easy method of suicide, resulting in more suicides than there would be if such a method wasn't easily available.
>Suicide isn't wrong
Suicide is an action made out of desperation in a time of distress. It is not something performed by a rational and healthy individual and should be prevented if at all possible.
Still waiting for a good reason as to why suicides magically "don't count" when it comes to firearm deaths.
>>70973201
>Suicide is usually done as a spur of the moment thing. Having guns readily available means people have easy access to a quick and easy method of suicide, resulting in more suicides than there would be if such a method wasn't easily available.
Overall suicide rate did not go down other countries after gun control was expended, other ways of suicide increased.
>Suicide is an action made out of desperation in a time of distress. It is not something performed by a rational and healthy individual and should be prevented if at all possible.
Stop trying to run people's lives. It's their life, not yours.
NRA: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=d000000082&cycle=2014
Planned Parenthood: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=D000000591&cycle=2014
>>70971534
$27 million?
They have only spent $24 million in a decade: https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/nonprof_contrib_summ.php?id=530116130
Your picture is a lie made by professional liars.
>>70973201
>Suicide is an action made out of desperation in a time of distress. It is not something performed by a rational and healthy individual and should be prevented if at all possible.
I'd rather have access to something that I know will get the job done.
>>70972336
how is 'killing yourself' not a decent recent to own a gun?
i'd feel trapped if i couldn't kill myself any time i took a mind to. it's a necessary plan B in any scenario. just shooting yourself in the head is literally ALWAYS an option - so long as you have a gun. and i find that comforting.,
SHALL
>>70973201
Having guns readily available stops home invasions, if you want to make the trade, go ahead.
Likewise, there are tons of other ways to commit suicide, trying to run around banning shit is a futile effort.
>Still waiting for a good reason as to why suicides magically "don't count" when it comes to firearm deaths.
Because every time it's used it's used deliberately to mislead the reader into believing it's people being murdered. "Firearm Deaths" has been, and always will be, a loaded statistic.
>muh bleedan heart! muh poor suicides!
Most people who commit suicide with a gun didn't just go out and buy it on the day they killed themselves, they probably had it from when they weren't depressed (making any sort of gun control effort useless), maybe if dumb Liberals weren't constantly pushing "muh mental health cheks", gun owners might not be afraid to GET HELP for fear of having their rights taken away.
>>70973608
>Overall suicide rate did not go down other countries after gun control was expended, other ways of suicide increased
Patently false. Australia, for example, experienced lower firearm suicide rates after their ban without an increase in suicides committed via other methods.
>>70973608
>Stop trying to run people's lives. It's their life, not yours.
Better shut down the Suicide Hotline and tell ambulances and hospitals not to respond to or treat suicide attempts because "it's der choice durrr"
>>70973805
I'd rather have people not fucking dying at all, but I guess that option doesn't let you keep your little toys.
>>70971534
Interesting choice of words.
2/3 of the 33,000 are suicides. 1/3 is homicides, 80% of which is gang and drug related. The rest are police shootings, accidents, or undetermined.
>>70971534
>during the last month of Jeb!'s campaign, sneaky, big-nosed men spent $50 million to get guac into the white house
>>70974150
HAHAHAHA
>>70974150
>Australia, for example
Now do Finland, Hungary, Russia, Poland, Belgium, Iceland, Slovenia, Serbia, Estonia, the Czech Republic, and France.
>>70974195
You left out justifiable self defence.
>>70971534
>gun makers
>nra
Wat
>>70974150
Australia has about the same overall suicide rate have the same suicide rate before and after gun control.
>Better shut down the Suicide Hotline and tell ambulances and hospitals not to respond to or treat suicide attempts because "it's der choice durrr"
If someone is calling a suicide hotline they obviously are having 2nd thoughts about it. At the end of the day it is up to them, you can try to ban guns, ropes, tall buildings or whatever else but people will kill themselves if they want to. It's their life and they are free to end it.
>>70971750
Of course if fucking does, who do you think you're dealing with here?
>>70974771
Worst case scenario if they have access to none of the above, chances are they have sharp teeth and a tongue that bleeds like a motherfucker.
>>70971765
It would include accidental shootings, you know kids killed by parents, siblings killed by siblings, people killed by kids. that sort of thing.
>>70972661
Suicide is often spur-of-the-moment I've-reached-the-end-of-my-tether stuff. Minutes or hours later, the person can feel better (less bad?) but the ready access to guns may have made that moot.
>>70972336
>pills don't exist
>blades don't exist
>tall structures don't exist
>helium doesn't exist
>>70971534
#GunLivesMatter
>>70971534
Source?
>>70971534
I love how the "/pol/ BTFO" threads are always drive-by arguments.
>"Oh, Nigel..."
>"Yes?"
>"I DISAGREE!"
>>70971534
>Thinking 27 million is a lot
>Gun makers aren't represented by the NRA
Its almost like they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, or something.
By the way, The NRA only spends about a million annually on lobbying.
>>70976769
They inflate the numbers. The 33,000 deaths per annum isn't even true anymore. They have to compile 2-4 years now before they can reach that number now. Suicides and murders are down, especially suicides and murders with guns. They keep crying about a problem that's solving itself. Which shows that they don't care about the victims involved, just banning guns.
>>70972336
America's suicide rates are no higher than other Western countries.
Their murder rates are but if you account for their minorities, and you were to assume they were 100% white, they're actually the same as the UK.
>>70971534
>$27 million is big
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
nigger have you seen the amount of money flowing towards democrat party members
>It's an Occupy Democrats episode
>>70973201
Most cases in my area is being run over by a train. Should we ban trains?
>>70973201
>Suicide is usually done as a spur of the moment thing. Having guns readily available means people have easy access to a quick and easy method of suicide, resulting in more suicides than there would be if such a method wasn't easily available.
No. most suicides are planned in advance. Also, no data has shown waiting periods curb suicides.
REMINDER
REMINDER
REMINDER
SEE PIC RELATED
THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL A ONE-POST OP. THESE ARE SHILL THREADS DESIGNED TO SLIDE THE FORUM. THEY CREATE THREADS TO FILL UP THE CATALOG AND PUSH REAL DISCUSSION INTO THE ARCHIVES. SAGE AND THESE THREADS IF YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO REPLY TO THEM.
ALSO WE SHOULD START PETITIONING TO HIRO TO CHANGE /POL/'S RULES - ADD A PROVISION FOR NOT ALLOWING "/POL/ BTFO" THREADS IN THE SAME WAY "IS X DEGENERACY" THREADS.
>>70971534
Most of those are niggers shooting each other with stolen and/or illegally acquired guns.
There is no BTFO and you have no argument as your post is only a statement and you only made one post in all this time. But this is wasted on you as this is a slide thread. Fuck off shill.
>>70971534
I don't think liberals realize how little 27 million$ is for a nation of 300+million.
americans spent over 3 Billion dollars just on doritos last year
>>70971534
>muh gun deaths meme
Fucking liberals...
How many of those deaths were justifiable homicide?
How many were suicides?
How many were actually murders?
>>70971765
Its padded out.
Another thing, the brady campaign has ten times as much money.
Ignore the lines in >pic related.
>>70978895
>2013
>Boston Marathon
>2 killed by explosives
Yeah I don't trust that.
>>70971534
How much is Bloomberg spending each year?
>>70971534
Prove the guns used in those killings were sold by the companies that gave the donations
>>70979570
He spent 50 million last year to make some stupid youtube videos.
>>70971534
>occupy democrats
>>70975824
How many suicides have you experienced to confirm this "fact"
>>70971534
>only 33,636
That's too bad. We need more niggersto kill each other and get that count up.
>>70975993
Cars don't exist
>>70972222
No one checked, but I witnessed strayabro. Nice get
I'm so glad America has gun crime. That's 33,000 less degenrates and niggers around to cause mayhem. That's real justice occurring round the clock.
God bless America.
>>70975824
>>70979837
Gun policy makes no difference for homicide rates.
>>70979860
>gunbancucks btfo
>>70979860
Well let's just say I'm glad shitheads get their comeuppance and leave it at that.
>>70971534
These people realize that the 2nd amendment predates all modern gun manufacturers, right?
>>70971636
Said what I was thinking. I'm not even racist, but 30K thugs of any color permanently off the street is a victory for the American people.
The real question is: how can we get more guns into the hands of such "people" so we can let the barbarians thin themselves out quicker?
>>70973201
So, how about all those prevented suicides in Japan? The lack of guns really put a damper on that, right?
>>70972222
Did you know that the pharmaceutical industry spends more money on advertising alone than the firearm industry as a whole in the US made last year? Did you also know that nearly EVERY shooter since Charles Whitman has been prescribed a Selective Seratonin Re-uptake Inhibitor by their psychiatrist?
>>70973201
>wanting people to become vegetables the rest of their lives when they fail at a suicide attempt
>>70979724
>Decide to look at everytown's youtube
>See this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a62n78msigo
Man this is cringe as fuck.
>>70971534
>american negros shoot each other
why would /pol/ care?
>>70980562
>>70980309
>been prescribed a Selective Seratonin Re-uptake Inhibitor by their psychiatrist
source on this?
were they currently taking or just had been taking in the past?
>>70980661
>>70980562
nice source faggot
>>70980816
Vertical lines = new gun laws
>>70971534
Last year, Michael Bloomberg blew some 75 million dollars on anti-gun campaign and election donations
one man vs an association of donors
>>70980830
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/publications/by-type/yearbook.html
http://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/pdfs/2014_GLOBAL_HOMICIDE_BOOK_web.pdf
http://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.main.MHSUICIDE
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/product?code=crim_gen&language=en&mode=view
http://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/
>>70980194
The majority of funds NRA gets are from dues paying members. Not evil corporations.
Of the 30k that die every year, a big majority are suicides. Japan has a higher suicide rate, but has extremely low gun ownership.
And of the 11k gun homicides, vast majority is from minority gang violence. Nigs killing nigs. They're just cleaning the gene pool for us. If you subtracted minority gang murders from the stats, US has a gun murder rate comparable to Belgium. A state with restrictive gun laws.
Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do.
>>70973201
>>70975824
>suicide is a spur of the moment thing
Proofs?
>>70980830
Oh, and this
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/historical-crime-data
>>70981087
wow i meant real sources that agree with my preconceived notion of gun violence you fucking bigot i didn't realize that the republican party infiltrated the uk no wonder you country is dying
>>70973201
Yet the facts say otherwise see >>70980562 >>70980661 >>70980816
>>70981245
Is this what it feels like to be trolled?
>>70979500
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2010-2014.xls
Read it here
>trusting an unsourced infographic over government statistics
>>70971534
how much did that faggot bloomjew spend? wasnt it like $50 million?
fuck off webbit
>>70981514
>>70981514
whats wrong with that it was a fair fight and the better man won you just mad that better man was black?
>>70981619
>>70971534
I gave them 750 of those dollars too!
>>70971534
>33,636 killed.
>2/3 of those deaths were suicides that would have offed themselves anyway.
The rest was probably a bunch of thugs or premeditated murders.
>>70981888
LOL I love his expression.
>>70971534
>OccupyDemocrats
Saged
>>70981888
>>70982485
>>70982566
>>70971534
>implying that this is a bad thing
>>70982485
wow, that's sex while camping.
>>70982859
>>70971534
btfo by being notified of money well spent?
.....?
ok?
>>70983115
Most of those were blacks killing blacks.
>33,636 people
>people
Half of the NRA's funding is from membership dues so 13.5 million of that is from private citizens.
>>70971534
>liberals literally want to ban guns
>"why is the gun lobby funding republicans?"
>>70983222
>>70984108
>>70984211
>>70984108
Why didn't he just shoot the guns out of their hands and maybe the tires of their bike? Why so violent?
>>70971534
What does the NRA have to do with 30k suicides and dead niggers?
>take suicides and black on black violence out of American gun violence statistics
>suddenly there's no problem
>>70971534
Hey Soros shill at least remove the Occupy Democrats watermark from your spam thread
retarded faggot
>>70971534
>/pol/ BTFO
No, you, JPFO.
>>70971534
This year Germany plans to spend 17 billion € on refugees, apparently. I guess that's the cost of keeping hundreds of thousands of rapes quiet
>>70981826
>thug druggie
>family man that just wants to go home to kids.
yeah the better man won alright.
>>70971534
Please, OP faggot, never say BTFO again, you obviously have no idea what it means.
>>70973038
We're talking about the percentage of gun deaths that are suicides
>>70981089
Eventually we're going to get nigs that are resistant to bullets. Return to the distribution of swords, perhaps?
>>70971534
> Occupy Democrats
a literal left wing propaganda page. nothing posted there should be taken seriously.
>>70971534
>tfw I paid exactly 0.002 cents worth of NRA sanctioned killings
well at least I beat the dues increase.
>>70985088
that "thug" made more money in 2 minutes than that "family man" made in an entire day plus he was physically stronger so ya the better man won deal with it racist
Just saying, if the NRA really cares about gun safety, why do they spend so much money on lobbying, and so little on their gun safety initiatives?
Even alcohol bottlers tell you to drink responsibly every chance they get.
>>70971534
>Occupy Democrats
Nice facebook meme faggot.
Fun Fact: They include suicides and police shootings in these statistics.
>>70971534
fuck off feinstein it's past your bedtime
guns save lives, and you have no right to dictate who is ALLOWED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES
You and all anti-gunners are garbage
>>70971534
Go back to redit
>>70971534
>~30,000 americans are killed each year by literal killing machines (including suicide, self defense, gang violence etc)
>~20,000 white women are raped every year by black men (din do nuffin!)
God Bless the NRA. Commies and wetbacks of all races, genders and creeds will continue to be BTFO by my AR-15.
This is a shill thread, with only one post by the OP.
Let's flip it into an NRA thread:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9lo0OxrXLo
OP is racist, BTW - hates black people like her:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-6dWsQMkDE
>>70971534
>gun makers
What now? The NRA makes all the guns in America? Who buys into these spooky memes?
>>70980661
Currently taking, the headliners like Columbine, Aurora, Sandy Vag, and supreme gentleman are confirmed. Other minors are frequent but typically aren't reported on outside of the local areas they occur in because so one gives enough of a fuck. If you google SSRI links to mass shootings brings up loads of links. Pharmaceuticals put more money into Congress than the NRA so naturally Congress isn't gonna go after the Money Titty, they're gonna go after ebil gunz instead
>>70972585
The most important difference being that they are funded mainly by the millions of Americans that pay them to work towards fighting for our rights.
>>70974150
>Patently false.
>brings up a nation that actually proves him wrong
>>70985657
Maybe because so many spend lots of money lobbying against firearms.
I get it, people are fucking stupid. It's like having to explain why you shouldn't jam a pointy stick into your eye socket. I can understand children not knowing, I blame the parents...but if you have to explain the inherent dangers of a device that accelerates a half ounce to lead and copper out of the end at speeds of 2000mph to an adult...then Jesus Christ.
>guns are the problem, not the people using them incorrectly
>all of those people killed were innocent
wew
>>70973201
Explain Finland.