I support both Sanders and Trump.
I like them both for very different reasons.
fight me.
>>70964133
If it comes down to the two of them which will you vote for?
>>70964133
I did too, but on top of the anti-vax, Trump made those comments about punishing women who get abortions - I shouldn't have to explain how fucked that is.
I'll vote for 3rd party Trump against Hillary and Cruz though
>>70964203
Probably Sanders.
As mush as I dislike his immigration policies, I do like the fact that he has more experience and more solid plans moving forward. What he wants to do with big banks is something that just needs to happen sooner rather than later, as well as his prison reformation plans.
As silly as a wall sounds, I actually like the idea a lot. Trump wants to make getting into the country illegally harder, while making getting into the country legally easier. He's pro immigration. Also every country that has taken in Syrian refugees has been shit on in terms of rapes and general crime. Why should we stick our neck out risking taking in terrorists, when you are just gonna fuck us up anyway?
There's a lot more going into my decision than just that but those are some of the major points.
They are polar opposites.
If you like them you are just a mindless anti-establishment contrarian-cuck. You just desperately want to be a part of some sort of revolution but you are so devoid or character, opinions and ideology that you don't care about what it is.
IMPURE IDEOLOGY! SAD!
>>70964975
>If you like them
If you like them both*
>>70964975
>doesn't know what non-partisanism is
They aren't polar opposites. Not even a bit. Stop being a tribalist faggot.
>>70964133
Trump and Bernie run third party as pres and v.p.
>>70964133
Why fight? It's a completely logical choice.
>>70964133
Anyways, I agree with you OP. I'm proud that both wings produced anti-establishment candidates who both seem genuine in their desire for reformation. I'm siding with Trump because Beenis Sanders has lost me on his social policies and siding with Black Lives Matter. Also, the left needs some deflating. I'm afraid that if Beenis wins, the regressive liberals will feel vindicated in their bullshit and social "progress" will just get worst.
>>70964699
Shillery is fucking 2 faced and untrustworthy, I'd never have her as president.
the anti vax stuff is annoying, but there's no way he will be able to pass or decline any laws about it. It's not a legal matter so I don't care. The abortion thing is fucked up, I agree but you have to understand who he is as a person, and I believe he's okay with loosening Abortion laws, and he said the punishment think to win favor with republicans. The GOP already hates how anti establishment he is.
These 2 are basically both 3rd parties. Democrats and republicans can bite me.
>>70964975
that's actually not true, they are both pro civil liberties if you do your research. Bernie is generally more "nice guy" about it than Trump.
Go do some fucking research and stop being fed by the social media and news outlets that are disgustingly bias. be more like >>70965216 he is educated.
>>70965375
The issue at hand is they both have a WHOLE LOT of dumb blind followers that think the other is fucking evil or a terrible choice. So I'm bound to piss those people off.
I only like Sanders because he at least seems to go into Washington with the best interests in his heart, even if his mind doesn't seem to think through things. Positives, he's anti-NAFTA, wants to get rid of the NSA, and may do something about the legal monopolies internet companies have, especially in major cities.
I don't like Sanders at all economically or when it comes to immigration/refugees though, so I'm mostly against rather than for. Trump is still my #1 even though he's pro-NSA atleast somewhat.
I'd still prefer Trump and Sanders over anyone else though because I think if we stay the current path with people like Cruz, Hillary, Rubio, etc., we'll just end up seeing the collapse of America. With Trump we can see a revival in American Capitalism, a return to American Manufacturing, a rise in American Nationalism, etc. With Bernie we would hopefully see a removal of spying programs in the US, a breakup of "legal" monopolies maybe (even if it is through government regulation rather than free market), and potentially a shift is Democratic politics to be less authoritarian. I would prefer a candidate who's Libertarian mostly, but with a sense of nationalism and restriction when it comes to illegal immigration/refugees, but that will never happen.
I'm kind of all over the place I guess.
>>70964133
Typical sanders supporter inciting violence
>Deport illegal immigrants
vs
>Give amnesty to all illegals, fly previously deported people back to USA
>Stop H-1B
vs
>Give H-1B visa-holders more money
>Stop muslim immigration, no refugees
vs
>Bring in upwards of 100,000 refugees
etc.
These candidates are not compatible. Supporting them both because muh revolution duude is just sad.
>>70964133
Bernie's passionate about (what he calls) fixing the corrupt Government
Trump isn't a cuck
They both have good and bad traits, it's all about who is the lesser of the two evils.
>>70966240
>Political candidates have different platforms
You are literally shitposting.
>>70964133
You are a faggot and a cuck kill yourself reddit shill
>>70966490
Yes they are different, that's the point you faggot, literally stupid cuck.
>>70966240
/thread
>>70966092
Sanders has a really well thought out economic plan. Mathematicians and economists have gone over the numbers and say it should all work out. His prison reform is going to save us enough money to pay for free community collage alone. On top of that he wants to break down big banks which will end up creating more jobs, and he wants to work on the crumbling infrastructure of this country which is going to create even more.
My problem is with his immigration. I don't want illegals to be able to stick around freeloading off my country, and he seems to be very forgiving to them.
>>70966149
fight me.
>>70966240
this is one single issue dude, chill. I don't agree with Bernie on this. Even though his plan is not quite as exaggerated as you made it.
>>70966332
I honestly think it's not the lesser of 2 evils this election.
>>70966565
there's the fighting :)
>>70966828
again, 1 issue.
>>70966970
>1 issue
Well what issue are they in agreement on? That single-payer healthcare is an ok idea?
Otherwise I'm at a loss
>Tax reliefs
vs
>Tax increase across the board, quoted saying not opposed to 90% tax bracket
>Get rid of Obamacare
vs
>Make Obamacare even bigger
>Expand the military
vs
>Decrease military spending for muh free shit
>Work
vs
>Free shit
>>70966970
>well thought out economic plan
>favors false statistics over facts to get elected
He's a flat out liar >>70966565
There's a word for someone who supports a shameless liar: livestock :^)
![bernie-sanders[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ny3jKPy.jpg "bernie-sanders[1].jpg")
>>70967645
>Building a billion dollar business empire
vs
>Writing delusional cuckold rape fantasies
>>70967645
>Trade
>Funding Caps
>Both anti-Nafta
>NRA is cool with them both (no seriously)
>Both are populists in response to Americans feeling like their interests aren't represented
I mean shit, dude. I don't know how autistic or just stupid you are. They aren't mutually exclusive people. And your "muh revolution" feels like projection. I don't think you are a retard but I believe you are arguing in bad faith. Only the biggest fucking retard couldn't see how they are similar.
>>70964133
>I like them both for very different reasons.
no you dont
>>70968635
Bernie is anti gun and anti White. Stop with the blatant shilling r/sandersforpresident
>>70968635
So just basically irrelevant policies except trade (which Trump would obviously be a vastly superior negotiator in)
You've done your shilling here, now you're free to go back to wherever you came from.
>>70969044
I'm gonna sound stupid, but I cannot figure out what the r/ is supposed to mean, did you mean w for "with"?
>>70969079
Get out of here you sheeple drone. no one cares. I've already told you my point and if you choose not to hear it, then that's your deal, I'm not gonna keep amusing you.
I agree
If America can't be great again then Ivwant to see it burn it the mosy pathetic way possible
>>70969044
In an earlier post I made it pretty clear that I'm a Trump supporter. And comparing these two, to show how they are similar makes me shill? Come on /pol/, you are better than this.
>>70969079
>They are complete opposites
>Except when they are not
>Ha, I won
>>70969967
>They are ideological opposites
>"Look at these similar irrelevant policies"
>"BTFO"
Jump off a fucking cliff.
>>70964946
I take it you haven't seen the interview were he literally can't explain what he actually plans to do to banks.
>>70966970
>Sanders has a really well thought out economic plan
just stop
>Trump is a nationalist
>Sanders is a socialist
The only solution is to combine them.
>>70970249
>Still doesn't understand how two populists who show up to the same election season with platforms against crony capitalism are similiar
It's not like I disagree with you. Sanders is a cuck, and Trump would be better. I just don't know how you fail to see a centrist trying to give them both a second look.
>>70968635
the NRA gave him a D- rating
go lie somewhere else
>>70964133
I agree, but I like trump more. Both of them are independent but I'm afraid that Bernie boy wants to be the next Vladimir Lenin.
>>70971358
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-nra-helped-put-bernie-sanders-in-congress/2015/07/19/ed1be26c-2bfe-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html
>inb4 Washington post
This is where I heard the NRA thing from. If it's all a complete lie I will apologize to my Swede friend
>>70972034
>picking the least of two evils (Smith and Bernie) is now equal to "being cool with"
only in ameritard land
oh and let's not forget that Bernie's opinions on gun control have become more retarded over the years, to the point where he said he would "ban semiautomatic weapons used for killing" (not even kidding, look it up)
>>70973055
I agree with you on your second point, I think is stance on the 2nd Amendment is retarded. But Sanders is against gun manufacturers being sued for mass shootings (which is a stupidly obvious thing to be in opposition of, but not with libs)
>>70964133
suck for you. neither of them will be elected.
