Anyone here ever been in the chair force?
Is there anything good that you could start a career on there?
>>70961589
Saw a few places like south korea, italy, south Africa.
>>70961589
yeah man airforce is fucking great, get shit ton of money, hotels, girls like the uniform, benefits, pension, idk about USA but candian miltary will pay for your university and pay for your move and food. Its so much better than my old farming jobs, and you get to see the world. I work with Americans from fort hood at norad actually.
>>70961589
I joined 3 years ago, have no university, making 60k a year, 20k car is payed off, have my own place and a gf, in this shitty economy military is awesome, and its oldschool no pussyfooting liberal fags, well as much as in civilian world.
>>70961589
I did 9 years as a 2T2x1. I got out and became a overseas contractor.
>>70962898
thats revolting man omg
>>70962657
>>70962863
Is there any truth to the theory that Syrian refugees are being housed at CF bases in order to be given weapons training in secret?
I wanted to be an airforce pilot when I was a kid.
Then I grew up and I think I'm too tall. I also wear glasses so that's out.
Now I'm about to graduate with a degree in chemistry and I feel like I want to join the military. It was something I wanted to do for forever but I feel like I would wash out quickly. I'm not fat or anything, but I feel like it wouldn't be for me.
>>70961589
I gunna go back to school to get a bachelors and look into become an air force officer. Ill probably just go for a military career/retirement
>>70963068
Nothing wrong with a jizz rag canada bro.
>>70963160
Tallfags BTFO
>>70963105
Nah, we hardly got any refugees and the ones we did get were women and children. Canada is a pretty white country, the big cities like Toronto are not but the rest of Canada is really white lol, the maritimes and NFLD have virtually no minorities, i think trudeaus liberal image is just for show and votes desu.
>>70963160
Do airtraffic controller like me, its hard but worth it
>>70961589
>>70964062
Everyone works for big brother and the man, may as well milk the system and get a good life out of it lol
>women and children
Well that's mildly calming if true. I don't agree with your assessment of Trudeau's intentions though. I got the impression practically everybody was against bringing in any refugees at all, yet he did anyway.
>>70963160
i think the height cutoff is like 6'4 or 6'5, and you can still pilot with glasses as long as your vision is within a certain range, you can also get a waiver for certain kinds of laser surgery
>>70961589
If your looking for career skills outside the AF go into Satcom.
>>70964608
I'm not really allowed to give political views considering hes my boss, but hey who doesn't hate their boss right? Lol
>>70963105
Nope, I live in Halifax. I know the Air Force base CFB Shearwater was making room for them but apparently nothing happened. And my buddies from CFB Stadacona said they didn't even get any news on potentially relocating.
>>70964608
Honestly, anyone was better than harper though, met him in Nunavut once, guy was a weird fuck.
>Maple leaf fighters
What's an air force?
>>70965768
I worked with your Air Force in Antarctica. Dont you guys have like 2 C-130's?
>>70965127
You probably shouldn't answer ITT, but I do hope you have a psychological tipping point at which you'd defect or become a mole-in-place. There's no way this country's cucked civilians could ever stand a chance against the state if it decided to go rogue. We would need trained fighters on our side.
>>70965247
Makes me wonder if 25,000 refugees were even brought to Canada at all. Could it have all been a lie?
>>70965304
He is a weird fuck. The only two occasions in which Harper has been seen in public since leaving Parliament were both in the United States. I assume he has a lot of ties down there to powerful neoconservatives. Also his demeanor at the 2010 Olympics was downright sketchy. He looked depressed or shaken. He probably literally has paranoid personality disorder in the clinical sense.
>>70961589
Don't go open general
Don't join without a guaranteed job no matter how long the say it will take and for the love of God don't join, pic related
>>70962898
Ayyy my airtrans brother
>>70965919
5x C130Hs but they're old as shit and will need to be replaced. Our minister of defence is buying two C17s but a lot of people (even greenies) want to replace the C130s as well as they're great for small/shitty runways.
>>70963940
Holy shit bruh, Rapcon or tower?
Can I join the Air Force without doing that gay ass "Basic training" shit where you get yelled at?
I would join the military for a nice paying job but I don't want to do that gay shit where you get yelled at.
>>70966874
Then you simply are not military material.
>>70966874
Fuck thats a dumb question
>>70966959
I just don't want to do that gay shit.
Don't they have jobs for people that don't require basic training?
>>70966874
I've been through basic dude. It's seriously easy. They've even shortened it down to 7 weeks it's you can't handle that don't seriously consider joining
>>70967151
Sure, its called being a civilian working at the bowling alley.
>>70967151
I'm not in the military, so take my words with a grain of salt, but I think you can become a contractor, and depending on what you do(Like driving Semi-Trucks across the middle east) can get you a lot of money, but you won't get government benefits and you can die.
>>70961589
>4 people on a stand
as a maintainer im triggered
>>70967243
I've been talking with a recruiter(Going to enlist in airforce) and I was told it's 8?
>>70966410
A cop? Nice.
General rule of thumb for anyone out there, stay as far away from the flightline as possible, the exception being if you actually fly. Don't accept a job that involves maintenance or an ASVAB score in any area that is less than 60.
Just don't do it, you'll hate your life. Also, consider coming in as an officer.
>>70967323
I think almost all if not all, are prior military.
>>70966410
Why are their covers always so dirty looking? I have never seen Security Forces with covers that were clean. You look at Tac-P and those guys always had clean covers. Never SF.
Thinking of joining USAF
Anything i should expect?
>>70967589
hurry up and wait
>>70967243
I can "handle" it, I just don't want to do it.
I've seen videos of it and it looks gay as fuck. Constantly getting yelled at, having to jog in place as a punishment because someone ELSE fucked up... yeah, fuck that shit.
Can't I just show up and try to get a job like normal? I don't want to do anything combat-related anyway. I could do some IT shit or something.
>>70964062
>Marines
That explains why he's such a homosexual
But seriously, idk what to do anymore, i dont know what i should do in the AF either
>>70967548
They don't give a fuck I imagine. Most hate their job, so they lack the same pride.
>>70967589
A total shit-show if you do anything related to maintenance. You'll probably work and live with knuckle dragging mongoloids for your first 4-10 years, but if you make it long enough to retire you'll be set before you're 40 depending on how old you are now.
>>70967635
no if you dont want to do it you wont be joining .doesn't matter if you go guard or reserve or even officer you still have to do basic like everyone else
>>70967428
Were you in the military? Also, how do I prepare for the ASVAB?
>>70967548
Tacp and all other special forces actually had to work to earn their berets they hold them in high regard I'm sure. Also I'm pretty sure they don't wear them as often as we do. They deploy a lot and whenot not deployed they train which I'm fairly certain they don't wear berets when training. We use our berets every day when we work.
>>70967812
the asvab test will pretty much tell you what your strong points and weak points are. after you take it you sit down with your recruiter and go over a list of jobs you "qualify" for.
>>70967923
>Were you in the military?
Yes.
>Also, how do I prepare for the ASVAB?
There are study guys, like ASVAB for dummies and such. I didn't study and made a pretty mediocre score. I didn't give a fuck either, and landed a pretty easy job, but you don't want an easy job. You want the hardest one you are capable of to avoid being surrounded by morons and lazy check collectors.
>>70967923
there are practice ones online you can take, as well as books filled with hundreds of them, it's fairly easy, I think I got a 135 score, 97 percentile, told me I could do any job in the Army including maintenance and I can barely identify a wrench.
>>70967382
They changedon't after I graduated but when I talk too new guys they say it's seven weeks of actual basic. then an eighth week where you go to the old bulldog training squadron as an in between basic and tech school period and talk about your feelings or some shit
>>70967635
You sound like a whiny bitch. It's only 2 months and it's easy, stop crying. If you don't like it don't enlist.
In fact, please don't enlist, the military has too many cry babies already.
>>70966199
They have, but most have found accommodation either through the city or by families. There was a story on here maybe 2 or 3 days ago about two refugee kids choked a girl in grade 3 with a chain shouting "muslims will rule the world" or something like that. But the majority were moved to the GTA area.
>>70967428
I'd rather be on a flight line than in the missle field.
>>70968159
I probably will qualify for fuck all, im not the best with STEM
>>70967995
Oops. Meant to say special operations
>>70968388
Being stuck in a bunker all the time probably isn't fun either, but I would take that if it meant I didn't deal with idiots daily.
>>70968180
What can I expect to do on a day-to-day basis? As in, what time do I wake up, and the moment after I wake up, what do I do? Then after that? And so forth. I'm really just trying to get a better understanding of what to expect.
Also, how would go about doing Air Traffic Control or being a Drone Operator? I really have no interest at all with being a mechanic.
Do army bro. Dude nobody ever saw any real shit flying planes or sitting on aircraft carriers. I will warn you though: you will get addicted to combat and firefights. Besides that you're gonna have a fucking good time. Being in the shit is good for the soul dude. Be a grunt dude.
>>70967894
Like what jobs are there in the AF? Im not the best when it comes to shit, but i could probably fix shit if they taught me how
>>70968771
During summer monthes we woke up at 0545 every day. Some days like when we got our blues or if you have kp then you can expect to wake up at 0400 sometimes. After that we would make our beds line up on the wall and fall out for pt.
>>70967923
>ASVAB
>Study
It's really just a common sense test. If you graduated high school there is no reason you can't make at least a 90. Hell, I made a 93 with a massive hangover.
Is a security forces officer a good choice?
>>70961589
I've had several people in my family go into the Air Force, and they all say that it was easy as fuck. Most of them are career and relatively high rank, so they basically just tell people what to do and sit around signing papers all day.
Is there anything good to start a career there? Not really. Unless they get you flying helicopters or repairing helis/jets, you have zero career prospects out of the Air Force that doesn't pay minimum wage.
One of my friends went into the Marines and people were falling all over him to get him hired when he got out, 'cause I guess apparently they think he's got stronger credentials than other applicants 'cause he was part of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children and not one of the other groups.
So, honestly, if you want an armed forces group to join that'll have career prospects post-service, you can pick whatever the hell you want. The trick is getting them to put you into a job that gets you trained FOR a career, usually anything involving fucking around with air/land vehicles, radar/radio, electricity, or demolition. Alternatively, you could stay and make a career of the armed forces.
If they plan to stick you as an MP or some other shit job, fake your death or run away to Mexico.
>>70968180
If you need to study for an ASVAB you should just kill yourself. It's a basic common sense test.
>>70969556
Speaking of kill yourself, I knew a guy that got a 10. A FUCKING 10.
>>70969307
>>70969556
What is on the test?
>>70969307
I'm currently in highschool(Senior, 18 y/o), just worried that when I take it I'm gonna do poorly and get a shit job. I'm not retarded or anything, I take an honors class and AP(college class, you get credits for taking it). If you do shit the first time, are you able to take it again?
>>70968632
When you say bunker I think your under the impression I'm deployed. To clarify I go to a missle field and provide security for minute man 3 launch facility's while they undergo maintenance operations.
>>70966874
That stuff can be pretty fun, it's just like school.
>>70969774
It's 10 categories, but the things that count are the arithmetic and language. There's shit like solving weird shape puzzles and shop and engine questions. It basically just grasps a line of what you're good at.
That being said the test is really only important where it counts. For example if you want to be a mechanic you need to test well in the specific categories that the branch that you are joining has decided you need to test well in. I joined to be a infantryman in the army. The only thing I really needed to test well in was the CO portion. Overall the test is really fucking easy. If you can read, do basic math, and tell a hammer from a wrench you'll get any job you want if your joining army. Other branches won't let you pick your job though. So depending on necessity for the job and where you did well on the test you'll be told what job you're doing unless you're joining army.
>>70969132
If you want to go as maintance do yourself a favor and choose a specialist job. Dont fall for the crew cheif meme of having your name on the side of the plane etc. Intergrated avionics on heavys (not fighter jets) all the way.
>>70969924
They'll let you take a practice one. If you do shit on that, hit the books and brush up, though most of it's high school level shit. Unless you were a huge fucking retard and slept in all your classes, you should be just fine.
I scored high enough on the ASVAB when I was considering going into the Navy that they were ready to drop me into a nuclear submarine doing reactor work.
I say this as a mostly C/B student throughout my entire life. The ASVAB is piss easy, and you should consider offing yourself if you don't get high enough to at least land yourself a job maintaining vehicles.
>But anon, why did you turn them down?
They basically wanted me to lose a ton of weight and I didn't lose enough in time, so I guess they gave up on me. I'm sure someone got fired for it, but who knows?
>>70966410
USAF Nam era vet here, true then, true now.
>>70962898
Dad pic... what does it mean by shooting...?
>>70970498
As far as "military lingo" goes, will I be taught all of that in Basic?
Also, what should I be doing right now to prepare myself for the next 4 years of my life in the Air Force?
>>70970802
You just catch on as you hear people say stuff.
>>70962657
lol it's always non city canadians joining the forces
The only hard part of the ASVAB for me was the math portion. Math sucks. Everything else is piss easy. It is essentially 11th grade shit.
>>70970802
Yes. Being prepared to be away from family for long periods of time. Knowing how to work and interact with normies. Being able to live independently
>>70970498
I got a 98 on the asvab without studying
I'm also a stupid individual
U are correct, there is no reason to worry about ASVAB
>>70970412
Well i can read, write, and do basic math, and im decent with tools
I just get angsty when written tests are involved.
>>70970928
Because they're real men
>>70970763
He means thats where he blows his load.
>>70970802
>Will I be taught military lingo in Basic?
You'll pick it up as you go along, but it won't hurt to know going in. Doing research on that shit is simple.
>What should I be doing right now to prepare myself for the next 4 years in the Air Force?
Hit the gym, lift weights, do a ton of cardio. If you're not beating your previous record every other day, then you're in trouble. If you're too poor to afford a few months of a gym membership, do body weight exercises and don't slack off. My Marine friend said boot/basic was cake because he decided to hit the gym to supplement recruitment PT.
Whether or not he's full of shit is anyone's guess, but it can't hurt to look good going in.
>>70971081
Yeah. The ASVAB is the least of your worries going into the armed forces.
>>70964956
SATCOM is good. I was Ground Radio. If I had to do it again though, I would have gone telephone. Specifically inside plant. Those guys make bank on the outside.
>>70967923
Asvabs has a max score of 99, national average is 50. My score was a 86, got me qaulified for SECF with the navy. I would say enlist, its a pretty good gig (at least thats what I am told, I'll find out on June 1st)
>>70971067
I'll miss them a little bit, but I'm not very attached with my family so I think that'll be easy enough. I'd also consider myself a normie so I don't think I'd have a problem with that.
But the live independently--I thought you live on a base with a bunch of other people in a barracks? What do you mean by that?
>>70971165
It's on a computer dude. just don't stress about it you'll do fine bro.
>>70971341
Wait a 98 on that sub-SAT test actually qualifies me for shit?
>>70971209
T-Thanks...
>goes to bathroom and pukes
>>70971273
How does retirement work? I've been told things like "20 years and you're done", but could you go into a little bit more detail on that? How would just serving for 20 years be able to provide myself financially for the rest of my life without picking up another job?
>>70971447
Yeah its the aptitude test for the military, basically says what job you qualify for
>>70971341
>national average is 50
What really? I thought it was around 60?
>>70971447
They're trying to weed out the retards that are only there to take orders and collect a paycheck, from the people who are self-sufficient and capable of learning things more complex than breathing, eating, sleeping, aiming a gun and pulling the trigger.
>>70971548
I never personally served. Everything I learned about the military was from years upon years of being regaled by people in my life about it. When it comes to retirement, I'm sure someone else would be able to answer that question.
>>70971666
No, it is 50 according to my recruiter
>>70971548
I think this should help youhttp://m.military.com/benefits/military-pay/the-military-retirement-system.html
>>70971081
I signed up to take that shit last minute.
Didn't know shit about mechanics. But scored an overall 85.
The thing is most others got a fucking 15. I'm not even sure how. It was dumb as fuck.
What is the equivalent to the word Cat?
A feline
B dog
C bigger dog
D biggerer dog.
>>70967428
>>70967923
>>70969307
>>70970498
>>70971341
Word of wisdom, just because you score high on the ASVAB doesnt mean you smart enough to actually complete Tech school for your first pick.
Half my 2T2 tech school was full of 90th percentile wash outs.
>>70971379
You will live on base for the first few years but after a while when you hit staff Sargent or even Senior Airman they will want you to live off base but don't worry you get a housing allowance to help pay bills
>>70972054
I am am expecting it, come A school, I am going to washout because math is not a strong subject of mine
>>70971426
Thanks, mil is my permanent back up plan, im not afraid of anything anymore. I just want to knownwhat to expect because i feel like i will end up there within the next few years
>>70972273
Fix your strengths.
>>70971273
You can literally search up the scores for your age in pt.
Airforce is easy.
For females below 30 scores are
54 situps max min 38
47pushups max min 18
10:27 runtime max min 14 minutes.
>>70972380
Not everyone can do math, tech school isnt for everyone
>captcha is 7200 kings
WE WUZ NUMBERZ N SHIET
>>70972537
Just read keep reading a basic maths text book. You get better with practice.
>>70971980
>The thing is most others got a fucking 15.
The trick is that the ASVAB isn't really a test of intelligence, more of a test of common sense/knowledge. Most people don't do a fucking thing out of High School and likely didn't have anyone to teach them any skills that could have been useful. Likewise, it goes without saying that most people don't have any fucking common sense, so it doesn't surprise me people make scores that low.
>>70972054
I hadn't intended to go for the nuclear submarine option, anyway. I would've preferred something challenging that didn't involve me being in charge of the lives of people several hundred feet underwater in an aluminum tube.
>>70972472
I suggested he hit the gym to supplement his PT because they're not going to let him in until he manages to consistently hit their expectations anyway. Getting to that point and quickly surpassing it would make life in basic considerably easier.
>>70972327
Join now. Do 11B army. You'll almost definetely get deployed in the upcoming war with Isis. War is fun honestly. You'll know you're a man when you get your combat badge.
>>70972707
What's that?
>>70972380
Yeah I am trying too, but like >>70972537 says its not for everyone. Can anyone tell me what happens if I burn out of A-school?
>>70972683
I just cant do math bro, ive always sucked at it, its the one subject i flat out cant learn
Also why does my ID keep changing?
>>70972767
11B? It's the infantry. Front lines grunt work.
>>70972783
What makes you think you suck at maths, like what do you have trouble with. Is it arithmetic??
>>70970412
I did the test here in aus they offered me any position.. Then found out my gf was pregnant. Suddenly army didn't sound so good. I am 22 doing mech/elected engineering and have degree in comp sci. Are there any jobs whee I won't die and not have to move homes too much?
>>70971481
Your welcome german bro.
>>70973068
For me its algebra or higher, funnily enough im decent at geometry
I just cant do math, ive always been bad at it.
>>70972694
Definitely right. Op you should really lift and work out. Get in shape and stay in shape or you're going to stay in medhole for months while you're there. You don't want that. Don't get hurt either else medhole.
The hardest thing there is studying to get a good score on your end of course exam. You don't have much relax time. Because even when you are standing in formation you will study you're bmt book they give you.
>>70972707
Women get combat badges these days for just being around when something goes boom. Our military is a joke.
>>70973120
I don't know about aus military or how it works. Or even how pog life works to be honest. Married guys get good shit in the army and hardly ever get deployed. Get married and then pick a cooking job or something you pussy. Or tell your girl to get an abortion and come fight Muslims like a real man.
>>70973068
It is just I don't retain the information well, I can do the math if I have notes, but with out them I can do math for shit. Which is why I am worried about Sub school, I know it is very math intensive, and I don't do well in testing environments without notes.
>>70973166
How much time have you spent on it?
Have you tried sitting down for several days and just mastering the very basics?
>>70973344
It's about what it means to you dude. When you earn that shit after weeks on patrol and being in real combat situations it means a lot to you. I don't even tell people I have it. My memories are all I gained from the military and they're all I've ever really needed.
>>70973166
I didn't have to use math and I'm a fucking maintainer working on f 35s and shit. Math shouldn't kill you. Just study. Get a tutor whatnot.
>>70973429
Well i can do basics, if not under pressure and given time. But i tried hard in grade school, it just never clicked.
Guys I want to be a sensor operator in the USAF. Is that a bad idea?
Pic a 1a job
>>70971292
That is what I was 2e6x3 , was in one of the last training schools for telephone. I am a cibtractor now and manage a pbx switch and call manager.
Do they let ausbros into us mil?
>>70973657
I would probably enjoy being the guy that pulls the triggers on drones
>>70973797
Have to get a green card first
>>70973715
I'm 1c852 ATC maintenance, I love/hate my job becuase half the time all we do is paper work. Also my ncoic can be a autistic twat
>>70962657
How's military life in Canada? Is it cold as fuck? Are you as good as the US? Thinking of joining up since I'm Canadian.
Trying to be a 35n. Advice?
>>70973657
no not really they are about to get a sign on bonus or something. you will just be a huge tool who gets flight pay and wears the suit even though you aren't really flying
>>70973578
Go here. https://www.khanacademy.org/math
Just do Early Math, Pre Algebra and Algebra 1. Keep doing Early math and pre algebra for as long as you need.
Do you do any fitness by the way?
>>70973978
Use it all the time, great site
>Do you do any fitness by the way?
4 or 5 sets of 65 push ups and 55 sit ups a day, and I try to run when ever I can
>>70973978
Fitness aint an issue, only problem i have are my knees, but my brother and father both have this problem and were in the USAF and Army. I can work it out. Thanks anon.
>>70973886
Yeah, that didn't exist when I joined. You could get a good conracting job on the outside. Just get an ethical hacking cert and work for ARCYBER and you will start at 120k.
>>70962898
Port dawgs.
>>70974186
Great, just treat studying like fitness.
>>70974186
>4 or 5 sets of 65 push ups and 55 sit ups a day
If you really want to get strong do SS or SL and go from there. Push-ups aren't enough (where is the back? where are the legs?) and sit-ups are total trash.
http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html
http://startingstrength.com/articles/abs_rippetoe.pdf
>have college degree
>98 ASVAB
>job prospects, friends
>can't shake this growing sense of duty to my country, mixed with a restlessness at being locked up in an office and going to wine tastings and choosing between linen shirts
How do I explain to my liberal northeastern family that I want to become an infantryman? Do I acknowledge it's a stupid waste of time, or try and push the nobility and advancement opportunity of it?
>>70974715
Why infantry?
>>70974715
You dont
If they object tell them you are your own man
>>70974701
This
Get that fuggin core strength
Push ups don't help for shit because your pectorals won't help you when you have to lug around heavy bullshit.
>>70974415
Oh I do, math out of this book everyday. I understand the material, I just need notes to do well on tests.
>>70974715
You could enlist as an officer, and you don't need your families permission to enlist so why wait?
>>70974715
>98 on the ASVAB
>11b
Are you okay
Do you have brain damage
Get a higher end MOS
If you want combat tours a decent number of MOS's will let you see action
Don't get a job that's going to count for nothing when you get out
If you want to go the combat route you better be prepped to do private security work afterwards.
>>70975194
hi jake, i see you're a wells fargo user too
>>70974701
>>70975191
I will check it out thanks
>>70975194
>You could enlist as an officer, and you don't need your families permission to enlist so why wait?
Officers are basically middle-managers today. If I like being in the army enough I can always go to OCS when I re-up, but I want to start out on the ground floor.
>>70975076
I'm not worried about them objecting, I'm worried about upsetting them. They're very soft people. I love them for it, but this will be a hard thing to break.
>>70975048
I want to be like my favorite video game, Call of Duty: Ghosts, obviously.
>>70975438
Indeed, those guys are fuckers though. You know they don't protect your account against fraudulent cashiers checks?
>>70974701
>http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html
seems to be down
https://web.archive.org/web/20160321025501/http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html
Another study tip is to use spaced repetition software like anki (check out the the user manual/videos). It can be used for most subjects and it really helped me.
https://www.gwern.net/Spaced%20repetition
how to make good flash-cards: https://www.supermemo.com/en/articles/20rules
>>70975337
If I wanted to go career army, I'd consider it. I don't have that hatred for POGs like people shitpost about.
I just consider the infantry to be the most complete way to do my service. Anything else would be inadequate to me, half measures. I don't think duty involves sitting at a desk taking pressure readings on the new Corps of Engineers bridge.
>>70975337
Not an Air Force related question, but one pertaining to the Army's Warrant Officer Candidate School. Basically, score 110 on the ASVAB and the Army will let you fly any of their helicopters that you qualify in with NO college required, no commission required. You're instead commissioned as a Warrant Officer.
Anyways, how hard is it to get that job and score high enough to be taken for that job, and how stressful is Army life as a helicopter pilot? With WOCS and Ft. Rucker involved?
>>70974715
are u 18? if not why are you even on 4chan. if you are, why do you need your parents permission?
>>70975960
I did a bunch of research on the WOFT program before I decided against it.
The biggest hurdle is just the sheer time it takes. You have to wait up to six months before you can take the SIFT or AFAST test. That's the general aptitude test that you study up for. If you can get a 90% or better on it, which is the base threshold to continue, it takes two years before the review board will get back to you on whether you've been accepted into the program. That's two years at home, going to school or whatever, not knowing how you did. THEN you get your contract and go to basic. All in all, it can be a 3+ year process. Don't plan on doing it unless you're patient. I'm not patient.
Might try to switch MOS to 15X when I'm done with my first run, though.
>>70975960
To put things into perspective:
>23 years old
>Law enforcement
How fucked am I? I'm studying helicopter flying currently, civilian-wise.
>>70975828
I'd say just do it to get it out your system. You'll regret it as you get older. You could also be a reservist instead.
>>70976287
Because I have a healthy relationship with my family and this kind of decision probably won't jive with what they intended for me to do.
>>70975337
>>70974715
i also got a 98 on the asvab and a 136 GT. i enlisted 11b. i would recommend signing up for 11b with Ranger option, or 18x if you really want to do a combat job.
>>70975591
>Officers are basically middle-managers today. If I like being in the army enough I can always go to OCS when I re-up, but I want to start out on the ground floor.
If you aren't up for consideration as an officer when you enlist, then fair enough for sticking with it that long. But don't waste your time being enlisted. Pay and benefits are worse. And the more people you have above you, the worse shit is.
Plus officers earn the big bucks and get great retirement benefits.
>>70974715
don't fuck yourself over by going infantry, it's not nearly as cool as you imagine.
if you're serious about joining then you better put that degree to use and become an officer.
>>70976513
healthy relationship or not it's your life to live
>>70975591
Again, if you want a cool combat job, go Ranger batt or sf. A regular army infantry unit is going to make you want to kill yourself.
And don't go officer just for the pay. They don't make 'big bucks' and you'll never get to do any of the cool shit you want becau.e like someone else said you'll be busy managing
>>70976520
18X is a trap. The actual rate of 18X candidates becoming Green Berets is around 6%. Everyone else washes out or snaps their shit up in training.
Option 40 looks doable, though.
>>70976590
I've consumed as much "army life is shit" media as a person can, trying to dissuade myself. Didn't work. I've made my piece with doing drills on a hot parking lot all day and just waiting for things.
>>70976427
Weekend warrior stuff seems bad.
When I graduated college I had no luck finding jobs, so while living with my parents I tried to join the airforce but was overweight by about 7 lbs. They also pissed me off by being closed randomly when it was a 30 minute drive over to their office, and then they lost my ASVAB test that they shouldn't have let me take before weighing me.
So I went over to the navy to join up with them, but got hired for a real job before I got to ship off and now I'm making fat stacks.
Not sure why I'm rambling about shit nobody cares about, just make sure your bmi is good before you go OP.
My gf is joining the air force. Are we done? She wants to make it work but I know it will be over once she leaves for basic.
>>70977071
>and then they lost my ASVAB test that they shouldn't have let me take before weighing me
I swear they do that shit on purpose to weed out people who get easily annoyed by administrative inefficiency. If they were actually that incompetent we'd all be dead by now.
>>70977272
youre fucked unfortunately. in the armed forces people can be and most of the time will be sent away for long periods of time. sorry anon.
>>70977071
How much do you make nigger?
Did you commision with that college degree? please elaborate. sounds like you turned your life around.
>>70977272
Break up with her for her own sake. It's too much stress on both people, unless they're absolutely set on getting married in the end. Tell her that if she's ready to get back together when she's done, you'll be happy, but that it would be a mistake to try to keep it going and ending up resenting each other.
>>70961589
I'm 24 and in the enlistment process. Wish me luck man! Already got a 96 on the ASVAB, (which I know means nothing) and just need my medical checkup done!
Shipping out to BMT near the end of May next month.
Let's hope the group penis inspection exams upon arrival go well
>>70977410
trust me they are that incompetent
>>70961589
If you want more opportunities for learning a viable trade/ skill, I'd join the USN.
AND, if your family has a history of mental illness, you may qualify for the nuke program
>>70971341
what's your rating?
a lot of people think that scoring 90+ on the ASVAB makes them albert einstein
it doesn't. in fact they're some of the dumbest people i've ever had the displeasure of working with.
>>70978273
I studied for the ASVAB before I took it. I didn't realize until later that it's not a test you should try to max out, otherwise it's not an accurate representation of your aptitude.
One of my old friends refuses to join because he got a 95 and he's convinced that they would force him to be an intelligence officer.
>>70967909
So everyone in the motherfucking Air Force has been through Basic Training?
Even the geeks who work on the computers?
Go look for a USAF reserve or guard unit that needs pilots. I'm guessing you're too late to join ROTC or anything that makes pilot slots easy. Bring alcohol to each unit you interview at. I did ROTC and am active duty and likely going to a fighter unit, but no guarantees yet. Pic related.
>>70966592
Those old ass h-models fly better and are 100x easier to maintain than some of the newest Js, and make 17s look like chumps in tactical ops.
I fucking miss working in them. Purest workhorse there was outside E models.
>>70977684
I'm reasonably buttpleased in how it turned out. I'm making $70k at 25 in a decently affordable city, exactly where I wanted to live (charleston SC). I could be richer, but I could also be working harder.
I passed the ASTB and was waiting around on some list when I got called up by one of the big companies I'd applied for and decided it would be foolish to give up the opportunity.
Got lucky really, but I regret not joining sometimes. When I see the big navy ships sometimes I feel like a piece of shit. Especially because theres a lot of navy guys in my family and they give me shit for it.
>>70978684
I'm jelly. Good luck Maverick.
>>70967909
Retard. Officers don't go through the same basic training as enlisted. Most I had in ROTC was a month of being yelled at my O-2s and O-3s who are support pussies and not scary, plus some ROTC people who were deemed to be good enough to be "trainer assistants" and are only a year older than the people they train, who have no real respect for them. Shit was easy.
>>70978646
I reckon so
I was looking at cushy army jobs like working in the recruitment office as an admin assistant
>have to do basic
>>70978684
>>70978879
Also, why the fuck am I showing as Canadian? Fuck leafs. USA USA USA
>>70978646
It's called basic because it's the bare minimum. Passing basic requires middle-school tier Presidential Fitness Test scores. Middle schoolers could probably pass the rifle requirements, too.
>>70962657
kek if you're in the air force and not a pilot you're just made fun of by other branches and civilians alike.
>>70979182
Air Force Special Forces are pretty cool. PJ has the highest washout rate of any military MOS.
Only problem is that if you do wash out, you wash into the Security Forces, the closest thing the military has to mall cops.
>>70961589
PJ's are by far the hardest job ever in the world ever period. Not one person on 4chan will ever be one. ever.
Best job is loadmaster (if you want to travel and are single) or crew chief. everything else is sludge.
1a8 reporting in
Any anon's in here a CT or used to be one?
>>70966410
>God don't join, pic related
>SecFo
not our fault you check I.D's for a living
sec fo huaaaaaa
>>70962898
I see a face towards the top
>>70979494
If you mean CCT, probably not. A former one posts on /k/ a few times a week, though. Good storytimes.
>>70978729
Oh, im stupid. I read over the part where you said you got hired for a real job before you committed. That's beast for a 25 year old.
Damn, was the ASTB hard, did you go deep in the aviation/navigation lingo?
I'm working on my engineering degree. If Trump becomes president, I will serve 100%.
>>70979842
yeah the ASTB was a bitch, especially the math part. fortunately my uncle is an engineer and he sat down with me for several hours going over a study book teaching me all the geometry stuff I'd forgotten years before.
i wanted to do intel, but now I'm working in supply chain so if I ever end up serving (would def consider under trump) im sure theyd shove me into a supply role. could be worse. good luck with your degree anon, engineering is as good as it gets. I'm just a business tard who got lucky.
>>70979429
I want to commission and FLY, but if that doesn't go to well I want to be a PJ officer (combat rescue officer).
What worries me is the possibility of washing out of PJ training. What are the consequences? I don't want to be put in security forces, I've read the stories of what a nightmare it is.
>>70979779
Nah, I meant crypto.
>>70978646
Yes. Basic is easy and pretty fun. Plus there's top quality banter after like two weeks.
>>70980247
You wash into security forces. It's not like the army where you revert to your original MOS.
You're better off joining and applying to PJ selection after a couple years, when you're in the mindset all the way.
>>70976526
The fuck flag is that
>>70980247
You're fucking retarded. You don't go for either of those as a BACKUP. CRO is way harder to get into than flying, and flying isn't easy either. It's almost impossible to become a CRO straight from being a civilian.
You'll be a good UAV sensor operator.
>>70980957
Recommend some decent back-ups?
>>70981618
Literally if you fail out of any AFSC you're going to be a Security Forces bitch checking IDs at the gate and giving people speeding tickets for going 19mph in a 15mph school zone. As in: fucking worthless. If you aren't committed to pilot or CRO (CRO being with the additional physical training you should have started years ago), you don't belong. Any other AFSC is fine, you probably won't fail it unless you're retarded, but all washouts go to security forces. Just know there is no "backup" to any AFSC
>>70977410
they are pretty incompetent. They will make you jump through hoops due to pure self laziness.
>>70980247
they really need pilots right now so literally anyone without a turban will get a pilot slot (probably not a fighter though)
if you wash out of PJ (85% do), no harm no foul. but try not to get FTT (failure to train)
>>70964610
You can get kicked out for laser eye surgery. They won't pay for it because it's elective. Also no you can't pilot without perfect vision.
Also, a Chemistry degree? Piloting is overrated shit anyway, with any tech degree you're guaranteed good shit. Also you need a 4.0 to become a pilot, as the saying goes "Poli-sci and you fly".
>>70982707
if you have a job that is sub-60 DLPT, then you might get stuck into SecFo
still, I know a pj washout who became a SERE instructor. anything can happen if you're not an ungrateful airman
>>70961589
Being a helo pilot is a pretty sweet civilian career. You could be an aerial cop, do rescue evac out west, be a private pilot for executives, or just hang out in Hawaii and give tours.
>>70983773
that's just not true. you can get lasik and they have no problem paying for it. and yes, you can be a pilot without having perfect vision.
they let pilots go DNIF ALL the time for all sorts of reasons.
>>70973120
>Any job where you won't die
All of them
>Where I won't move homes too much?
Meh. If your kids aren't even in school you shouldn't give a fuck regardless. They'll pay for your lodgings or you can get a nice house on base.
Just join you faggot, its three years of military service to become a naturalized citizen and then you can troll on 4chan without being spotted instantly due to your flag.
>>70984138
USAF won't pay for LASIK until you're actualyl active duty, which most pilot-selects aren't when they get selected .Perfect vision definitely isn't necessary though. Tons of dudes with glasses around here.
>>70984729
yeah you just wear the glasses until they let you get lasik. big deal.
>>70984729
you can get a million and one waivers for depth perception or whatever.
>>70985207
Some jobs it will DQ you for it.
>>70966874
>>70967635
>>70978646
You sound like an asshole. As a member of the military you have to uphold certain standards and represent certain qualities.
You have to take fitness tests once or twice a year in the least physically-demanding branch of the U.S military (the Air Force).
If you really can't stand to go through basic training you wouldn't enjoy your time in the military.
>>70984729
>which most pilot-selects aren't when they get selected .Perfect vision definitely isn't necessary though. To
Does a contractor do the LASIK? Service members can't sue when a military doctor fucks them up.
>99th percentile on DLPT
>99th percentile in all four categories
>any job I wanted, 300k starting
>hey why don't you take this test too?
>take it and pass it
>impossible to get a different job from the one that needed that test
guess which MOS it was
>>70985398
Which ones? Med gets a bad cred for removing people from training and getting people out of jobs. In 2016, it's not true. You don't get DQ'd, but you do get DNIF and the Air Force has no problem removing people who stay DNIF.
>>70985861
standards so low. marines have to run 3 miles for their. navy and army run 2 miles. ours is 1.5 lol and the pushups and situps are bleh
but CRO and PJ's are a ripped and beautiful specimen
>>70986175
DLAB, linguist
Been talking with my recruiter for some time now about enlisting in the Air Force. Wanted to do some aircraft maintenance job but not sure anymore.
Any recommendations?
I'd like to at least do some physical stuff and be outside a lot.
>>70986386
welp that was fast
>>70986599
yeah they never want to let go of their linguists. What was your DLAB score? also, it's a sweet gig
>>70986568
crew chief is probably the best. you work directly on a plane. I know a few grease monkeys who love it. you'll learn a lot about planes and parts.
>>70986756
This is my first choice initially. But apparently they're only like 50% manned and morale is really low. Probably working like 12-hour shifts. I also plan on going to school while I'm in so I wasn't sure if this would be a good fit even though it seems really cool
>>70986756
It's been a while, 120 something. What makes it a good job?
>>70986175
You are probably learning a camel fucker language too aren't you?
>>70987073
my buddy goes to school and is a crew chief. school is hard to juggle with the AF but take 1-2 classes at a time and enjoy your time in the service. don't burn out or try to rush anything. whatever you don't finish will get paid for afterwards with your 9/11 bill.
the air force works the way all jobs work. if you do something you love, every day is interesting. if you just aren't interested then it will suck.
>>70987259
the military is downsizing and saving money, but linguists are pretty much the only non-combat AFSC/MOS that still get bonuses.
What makes it the best IMO is that you get paid to live in Monterey and learn a language from native speakers. You won't find that anywhere else in the world. For 8 hours a day for 32-64 months, you will learn a language straight from the source.
The jobs for every branch are cool. All of it is classified and it's not scrub work. It's hard to get in, but they take care of you if you make it (1/3 washout, mostly because they are lazy/medical issues/PT tests).
Afterwards, you can get your 6-digit salary as a civilian and the opportunities are crazy. Some people become english teachers in their target languages. CIA will hire you. NSA will hire you.
you also get an associate's if you graduate DLI and take a couple CLEP tests
tl;dr
>What makes it a good job?
money, a second language, you won't be a boring grunt
>>70971341
Wow I got an 88 but it looks like you scored higher than me on almost everything
If my wife is a doctor should I bother enlisting/commissioning?
I don't need money and I don't need to do anything that I don't want to do, like babysit 150 kids as a Lieutenant or work 12-16 hour days for years straight.
>>70987944
Thanks, that does sound pretty good
>not being a boring grunt
probably the most important thing on that list
No. I've never been in the chair force.
i was in the civil air patrol guys does that count am i a cool air force man
>>70966625
Atc is great. Looking to get hired on FAA like most ppl nowadays
