>he doesn't take SSRI's
who /ssri/ masterrace here? reminder that you're a cuck if you go throw the degnerate jewry of everyday life without a little serotonin help
this is a political topic, mods. /pol/ acts like SSRI's are big pharma mind control use by the jews
Fucking autocorrect. through*, not throw.
>>70948295
ssri's are literally no different than drinking heavily then snorting cocaine. that's how fucking crude they are. no one has any fucking idea how they actually operate. cocaethylene formed in the liver during a coke and alcohol binge is much the same as taking a pharmaCo-capital, government endorsed ssri. but no one questions the reliability or efficacy of such drugs because if you need a prescription for it and it's government subsidized then it must work right?
>>70948899
As some one who has both drunk heavily and taken SSRIs, you're talking out your arse.
>t. school shooter
Why the fuck would I want those things on my record? I'd rather self-medicate than be marked mentally ill.
>>70948899
>no one has any fucking idea how they actually operate
nigga what
>>70949173
Shit like bipolar medication is infinitely worse looking on a record than a small dose of an SSRI to help with anxiety
>>70949036
i've done both as well. as i said the drugs are crude. they affect people in vastly different ways, by virtue of the fact that they target various different receptors indiscriminately. but of course it is ultimately for the best to take them right? big pharma would never push cheaply produced drugs with unproven efficacy to a huge target market that they actively attempt to widen; of course they wouldn't. they've never acted in an unethical fashion in the past
OP is either retarded or a shill, move along
>>70948295
>tfw on Zoloft for years
I have no regrets desu. I was so anxious all the time that I could barely leave my house. Eventually had a panic attack and my parents convinced me to go to a doctor. He prescribed me Zoloft and Xanax and changed my life.
>inb4 pharmaJew
Whatever, dude. My brain is fucked up and whatever magical shit is in SSRIs unfucks it. It works so well I don't even have to take Xanax any more. Haven't had to in two years or more now. Sure, there are some side effects - I have a hard time cumming and my emotions are more nuanced - but it's waaaaaaaaay better than being nervous as fuck all day, every day.
>Taking the chemical kike
>Shilling for the chemical kike
JIDF please leave
>>70949270
literally one second on google or wikipedia will begin your redpill journey into the world of anti-depresants: dissimulation, subversive advertising, ghost writers, funding to political parties in exchange for subsidy...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor
>>70949964
Fuck you. I'd be an alcoholic were it not for Zoloft. It's the only thing in my entire life that has ever calmed me down and taken away my anxiety other than booze.
>>70948295
Jews be shilling but I ain't buying.
SSNRI here
gotta take the edge off a little bit
SSRIs erase your personality.
If you're undergoing heavy therapy and you need something short term to help with emotional regulation, that's fine. Take wellbutrin for six months while you're in an outpatient program. Any notion that it's okay to take that shit long term, or that it's any kind of "solution" to shit, is retarded and destructive.
>>70949833
Retarded for treating anxiety issues that run in my family on my mom's side?
>>70948295
this thread is ginning me PTSD, you guys are all nuts, now wander this place is a shithole
>>70949882
This. My mom takes Zoloft, called it a "game changer."
I was scared for years to finally make the jump and just say "fuck it, let's try Celexa" because of years of /pol/ shitposts about SSRI's being le jewish mind control tic tacs
>>70948295
>Not self medicating with cannabis
>would rather take the pharmaceutical Jew than a proven medical herb that's been used for thousands of years
>>70950089
Same. That's when I finally gave SSRI's a try, I had become a full blown alcoholic in trying to suppress the anxiety, and my family has a long history of that.
>>70950349
>SSRIs erase your personality.
Not in my case. It's more of a mellowing out. If you imagine your emotions as a sine wave then SSRIs - in my experience with Zoloft - decrease the magnitude of the emotion wave. Lows become higher and highs become lower.
I went on Zoloft for anxiety, though, not depression. Not sure if it's different for depressed people.
>>70950349
Changed my mom's life for the better and she's still the exact same woman, same personality, etc.
Probably just means you already had a shit personality if it changes you that much m8
Does Prozac count as an SSRI?
I used to take 60mg but it didn't really do shit.
>>70950681
I smoked weed every day for over two years. That shit will ruin your life, seriously. I stopped a few weeks ago and only recently started SSRI's.
>>70950819
Yes. I'm pretty sure at least.
>>70950591
It's done wonders for me. I'm very, very thankful for it. Good luck to you with your medication.
>>70950697
100%. The only thing that ever helped my anxiety was booze and I know for a fact that had I not been prescribed Zoloft that I would be a raging alcoholic today. So thankful for my parents intervening and my doctor for hooking me up.
>>70948295
Extremely serious mistakes about the nature of the solar system didn't matter too much until interplanetary travel became a possibility. Extremely serious mistakes about brain "transmitters" and "receptors" didn't matter too much until the drug industry got involved.
"Three years before Prozac received approval by the US Food and Drug Administration in late 1987, the German BGA, that country's FDA equivalent, had such serious reservations about Prozac's safety that it refused to approve the antidepressant based on Lilly's studies showing that previously nonsuicidal patients who took the drug had a fivefold higher rate of suicides and suicide attempts than those on older antidepressants, and a threefold higher rate than those taking placebos."
>literally ingesting the blue pill
>in 2016
>>70950819
Yes. Prozac is an SSRI. It was one of the first and still heavily used today. I've only ever been on Zoloft, though, so I'm not sure about the subtle differences between SSRIs. I know Prozac has a longer half life than most.
>>70950932
"Using figures on Prozac both from Lilly and independent research, however, Dr. David Healy, an expert on the brain's serotonin system and director of the North Wales Department of Psychological Medicine at the University of Wales, estimated that "probably 50,000 people have committed suicide on Prozac since its launch, over and above the number who would have done so if left untreated."
The Boston Globe, 2000.
>>70950982
Viagra isn't an SSRI, though.
>>70951018
Anyone who has been reading the mass media and watching television in recent decades is familiar with the use of tryptophan as an antidepressant. Tryptophan is easily converted to serotonin and melatonin in the body. The most popular kind of antidepressant, the “serotonin reuptake inhibitor”, is said to act by increasing the action of serotonin in the brain. Many people have read articles in popular science magazines explaining that a deficiency of serotonin can cause depression, suicide, and aggression. Estrogen is often said to achieve its “wonderful” effects by increasing the effects of serotonin.
Reserpine is an ancient tranquilizer, derived from a plant used in India for centuries. It has a powerful tranquilizing action, has been used to treat hypertension, and was found to be an antidepressant (Davies and Shepherd, 1955). It lowers the concentration of serotonin in the brain and other tissues. Isoniazid, an antidepressant that came into use in the 1950s, is effective, but it probably has no effect on serotonin. When those drugs were popular, serotonin wasn’t recognized as a “neurotransmitter.” It wasn’t until the 1960s that our present set of doctrines regarding serotonin’s effects on mood and behavior came into being.
>needing mind altering drugs to live your life
Fucking low energy betas. KILL YOURSELVES.
>>70951313
This is partly because of the involvement of the drug industry, but the U.S. government also played a role in setting a pattern of confused and perverse interpretation of serotonin physiology, by its policy of denigrating and incriminating LSD, a powerful serotonin (approximate) antagonist, by any means possible, for example claiming that it causes genetic damage and provokes homicidal or suicidal violence. The issue of genetic damage was already disproved in the 1960s, but this was never publicly acknowledged by the National Institutes of Mental Health or other government agency. The government’s irresponsible actions helped to create the drug culture, in which health warnings about drugs were widely disregarded, because the government had been caught in blatant fraud. In more recent years, government warnings about tryptophan supplements have been widely dismissed, because the government has so often lied. Even when the public health agencies try to do something right, they fail, because they have done so much wrong.
>>70949422
What if it's worse than anxiety?
>>70950916
Thanks mang, you as well
>>70949036
But did you snort some coke at the same time?
>>70951018
You're saying that people who suffer from debilitating depression tend to commit suicide? I don't see a link
>>70951402
In animal studies LSD, and other anti-serotonin agents, increase playfulness and accelerate learning, and cause behavioral impairment only at very high doses. While reserpine was used medically for several decades, and was eventually found to have harmful side effects, medical research in LSD was stopped before its actual side effects could be discovered. The misrepresentations about LSD, as a powerful antiserotonin agent, allowed a set of cultural stereotypes about serotonin to be established. Misconceptions about serotonin and melatonin and tryptophan, which are metabolically interrelated, have persisted, and it seems that the drug industry has exploited these mistakes to promote the “new generation” of psychoactive drugs as activators of serotonin responses. If LSD makes people go berserk, as the government claimed, then a product to amplify the effects of serotonin should make people sane.
The “serotonin reuptake inhibitors” are called the “third generation” of antidepressants. The monoamine oxidase (MAO) inhibitors, that came into use in the 1950s, are called the “first generation.” When their patents expire on a “generation” of drugs, the drug companies find reasons for claiming that the new drugs are better. Every doctor in the country seems to know that the old MAO-inhibitors are dangerous because they can raise blood pressure if you eat certain kinds of cheese while taking them. In fact, statistics show that they are safer than the new generation of antidepressants. It is hardly possible for a physician to prescribe the most appropriate drug, because the medical licensing boards are thoroughly indoctrinated by the drug companies, to believe that the safest and most effective drugs are those whose patents are still in force.
>calcifying your pineal gland
>>70951331
>implying it's not a chemical problem in the brain that is also hereditary
>>70951451
Not sure what you're asking.
>>70951697
It's on my mind every moment I'm conscious, on whether or not I should just veer left onto the median, or to open the window and jump, or just walk into traffic.
>>70951619
While it is true that the newer antidepressants increase the actions of serotonin, it is not true that this explains their antidepressant action. This is a culturally conditioned promotional construction. Since different antidepressants increase, decrease, or don’t affect the actions of serotonin, a radically new kind of theory of depression and the antidepressants is needed. Theories based on “transmitter” substances and “receptors” are favored by the drug industry, but that kind of thinking is hardly better than the belief in demons and their exorcism. If an herbal tea cures depression because the demon doesn’t like its smell, at least the patient never has to abandon a remedy because a tea patent has expired.
In the world of “neurotransmitters” and “receptors,” there is ample room for the development of speculative mechanisms of drug action. Serotonin is regulated by the rate of its synthesis and degradation, by its uptake, storage, and release, and by its transporters, and its effects are modified by a great variety of receptors, by the number of these receptors, and by their binding affinities and competitive binders. “Different receptors” are defined by the effects of chemicals other than serotonin; this means that serotonin itself hypothetically gains some of the properties of every substance that shows some binding competition with serotonin. This complexity*note 1 has made it possible to argue that a given condition is caused by either an excess or a deficiency of serotonin.
>>70950188
dream lover come rescue me
>>70951928
That sounds more like severe depression instead of just anxiety, although they're both manifestations of the same problem usually.
Being constantly suicidal would probably need to be dealt with something stronger than a low-dose of Celexa like I take. Not to say that I never have suicidal thoughts, but I never actually seriously contemplate it and it's not constant.
>>70948295
>i need chemical crutch to deal with reality
stop celebrating that youre a weak insecure beta
>>70951970
The drug companies like to call some of their new products SSRI, “selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors,” meaning that they don’t indiscriminately increase all the biogenic amines, the way the old MAO inhibitors supposedly did. Every drug does many things, each a little differently, so it’s technically true to say that they “selectively” do this or that. But the term “antidepressant,” as distinguished from “tranquilizer,” says that the drug is intended to relieve depression. Injecting serotonin never does that, but sometimes adrenalin or dopamine does, and these “SSRI” drugs increase the activities of those other amines enough that those changes could explain the altered mood, if it weren’t for the need to speak of a “new generation of drugs.” Injecting serotonin, or increasing its activity, can cause sedation, helplessness, or apathy, but these drugs have that effect only some of the time. Therefore, they aren’t called tranquilizers. If they were really selective for serotonin, they just wouldn’t be antidepressants. And chemicals that antagonize serotonin do seem to function as antidepressants (Martin, et al., 1992). When an SSRI is used to treat irritability and aggression, it is appropriate to call it a tranquilizer. When drugs are used empirically, without really understanding the disease or the drug, classifications, descriptions, and names are subjective. The serotonin situation reminds me of the history of DES: For almost twenty years, this synthetic estrogen was marketed for the prevention of abortions; then it came out as the “morning after” contraception/abortion pill. “If increasing serotonin isn’t the cure, then maybe decreasing serotonin will be the cure.”
>>70952245
You realize that it's beyond debate that issues with anxiety and depression to an extent that medication is necessary are the result of chemical imbalances in the brain, right?
There are certainly attention-whoring pathetic faggots who think their "panic attacks" or "stress" means they should down Xanax all day, but for a lot of people it's a chemical problem in their brain that is completely out of their control.
>>70948295
>'fixing' psychological problems with medication
its like you don't even try to fix the root cause of your problem(s). i feel bad for you zoloft zombies
>>70952245
THIS
>>70952361
To begin to understand serotonin, it’s necessary to step back from the culture of neurotransmitters, and to look at the larger biological picture.
Serotonin and estrogen have many systematically interrelated functions, and women are much more likely to suffer from depression than men are. Serotonin and histamine are increased by estrogen, and their activation mimics the effects of estrogen. Serotonin is closely involved in mood disorders, but also in a great variety of other problems that affect women much more frequently than men. These are probably primarily energy disorders, relating to cellular respiration and thyroid function. Liver disease and brain disease, e.g., Alzheimer’s disease, are both much more common in women than in men, and serotonin and estrogen strongly affect the energetic processes in these organs. Liver disease can increase the brain’s exposure to serotonin, ammonia, and histamine. It isn’t just a coincidence that these three amines occur together and are neurotoxic; they are all stress-related substances, with natural roles in signaling and regulation.
>>70952512
Yeah let me tinker around in my brain and manually fix the chemical imbalances myself.
Dumb nigger.
>>70952620
There are good reasons for thinking that serotonin contributes to the nerve damage seen in multiple sclerosis and Alzheimer’s disease.
The high incidence of multiple sclerosis in women, and its onset during their reproductive years, is well known. The number of brain lesions is associated with the ratio of estrogen to progesterone. Estrogen activates mast cells to release histamine and serotonin, and activated mast cells can produce brain edema and demyelination. Blood clots have been microscopically associated with brain lesions like those in multiple sclerosis, and the platelets in clots release neurotoxic serotonin.
In Parkinson’s disease, the benefits seen from increasing the concentration of dopamine could result from dopamine’s antagonism to serotonin; anti-serotonin drugs can alleviate the symptoms, and 5-hydroxytryptophan can worsen the symptoms (Chase, et al., 1976). Other movement disorders, including akathisia and chorea, can be produced by serotonin. In autism, repetitive motions are a common symptom, and serotonin is high in the blood serum and platelets of autistic children and their relatives. Irritable bowel syndrome, another kind of “movement disorder,” can be treated effectively with anti-serotonin agents. This syndrome is very common in women, with premenstrual exacerbations, when estrogen is highest. One of the side effects of oral contraceptives is chorea, uncontrollable dancing movements. Some research has found increased serotonin in people with Huntington’s chorea (Kish, et al., 1987), and positive results with bromocriptine have been reported (Agnoli, et al., 1977).
>>70952503
i was diagnosed with bi polar disorder and generalized anxiety disorder. i prescribed several drugs, mainly benzos and ssris. i spent years on them.
3 years ago, i quit them cold turkey. after the insanity of getting off that shit, took about 6 months, ive never been better. so fuck off you weak child. you dont need shit.
needs
>food
>clothing
>shelter
addiction/wants
>your petty, dirty, govt regulated drugs
>>70952855
The neurosteroid, allopregnanolone, for which progesterone is the precursor, facilitates the inhibitory action of GABA, which is known to be deficient in some disorders of mood and movement. This suggests that progesterone will be therapeutic in the movement disorders, as it is in various mood problems. Progesterone has some specific antiserotonin actions (e.g., Wu, et al., 2000).
The “serotonin reuptake inhibitors” “are presumed” to have the same effect on the brain that they have on blood platelets. They inhibit the ability of platelets to retain and concentrate serotonin, allowing it to stay in the plasma. This uptake-inhibited condition is a model of the platelet behavior seen in multiple sclerosis and Alzheimer’s disease.
Serotonin and its derivative, melatonin, are both involved in the biology of torpor and hibernation. Serotonin inhibits mitochondrial respiration. Excitoxic death of nerve cells involves both the limitation of energy production, and increased cellular activation. Serotonin has both of these actions.
In hibernating animals, the stress of a declining food supply causes increased serotonin production. In humans and animals that don’t hibernate, the stress of winter causes very similar changes. Serotonin lowers temperature by decreasing the metabolic rate. Tryptophan and melatonin are also hypothermic. In the winter, more thyroid is needed to maintain a normal rate of metabolism.
Increased serotonin interferes with the consolidation of learning. Hypothermia has a similar effect. Since estrogen increases serotonergia, and decreases body temperature, these effects help to explain the long-observed interference of estrogen with learning.
If you need drugs to feel 'normal'
Kill yourself. Because nature wouldve already.
>>70953125
Although ammonia, produced by fatigue or liver inefficiency, creates torpor, it can also cause convulsions. It synergizes with serotonin, and both of these promote excitotoxicity.
Serotonin’s other names include thrombotonin, thrombocytin, enteramine, and 5-HT, its chemical name (5-hydroxytryptamine). These historical names derive from its role in the intestine and in blood vessels. In 1951, it was discovered that enteramine and thrombotonin were a single substance, and its involvement in circulatory disease, especially hypertension and vascular spasms, was the focus of research. (The increase in the number of “cardiovascular events” recently seen in the study of women using estrogen is what might be expected from something which increases serotonin dominance.) It causes vasoconstriction and vasospasm, and promotes clotting, when it’s released from platelets. Especially when it is released from mast cells, it is considered to be an inflammatory mediator, along with histamine. Edema, bronchoconstriction, immunosuppression, and joint swelling are produced by the release of serotonin from platelets or other cells. As inflammatory mediators, serotonin and histamine are directly involved in asthma, hives, gastrointestinal damage from alcohol, nerve cell damage, edema, and shock.
The broadly protective effects of antihistamine drugs have been energetically exploited by the drug industry for fifty years. Why haven’t antiserotonin drugs been similarly emphasized?
Is it an evil conspiracy of epic proportions? oh vey shut it down!
>>70953606
Research on LSD and its derivatives led to drugs such as bromocriptine, which oppose the effects of histamine and estrogen. Some of bromocriptine’s effects are clearly antagonistic to serotonin, though bromocriptine is usually called a “dopamine agonist”; dopamine is pretty generally a serotonin antagonist. Methysergide, a related drug with antiserotonin activity, is effective in protecting the brain from the effects of strokes. But there is a general disinclination to understand the broad biological meaning of these effects.
>>70954098
I think the corrupt campaign against LSD played a large role in this: If the therapeutic value of LSD and related drugs (e.g., methysergide) with expired patents,*note2 used as antiserotonin agents, became widely known, the existing system of power and profit would be threatened. The war on drugs has always had its ulterior motives,including justifying domestic and foreign interventions in issues that have nothing to do with drugs. And in the case of the serotonin/antiserotonin mythology, this “war” has been rewarding to the drug industry--Lilly makes over $2 billion annually on Prozac. Each suicide caused by Prozac would appear to be balanced by several hundred thousand dollars earned by the corporation. If the war on drugs were serious, this would be a good place to start. And in weighing what corporate punishments might be appropriate, this corporation’s financial support for universal capital punishment should be taken into account. Many experiments have shown that estrogen is very important for aggressive behavior in animals, and estrogen promotes serotonin’s actions. Some research shows that increased serotonin is associated with certain types of increased aggressiveness, and antiserotonin agents decrease aggresiveness (Ieni, et al., 1985; McMillen, et al., 1987) but the clearest research has to do with the crucial role of serotonin in learned helplessness. Learned helplessness is a biological condition that is created by inescapable stress. In this state, animals that would normally swim for hours will stop swimming after a few minutes and allow themselves to drown. They simply don’t have enough mental or physical energy to overcome challenges.
>>70954135
In learned helplessness, the level of serotonin is high, and an excess of serotonin helps to create the state of learned helplessness.
Serotonin activates glycolysis, forming lactic acid. Excess lactic acid tends to decrease efficient energy production by interfering with mitochondrial respiration.
Heart failure, hypertension, muscle hyperalgesia (Babenko, et al., 2000), some panic reactions, and other maladaptive biological events associated with problems of energy metabolism, are promoted by excessive serotonin.
Autistic children and their relatives have high concentrations of serotonin in their serum and platelets. Members of a family tend to eat the same foods and to share other environmental conditions. Prenatal hypothyroidism and various kinds of imprinting, including hyperestrogenism, could account for this. Some studies have reported that thyroid supplements help autistic children, and anti-serotonin drugs have caused improvement in both children and adults.
Serotonin tends to cause hypoglycemia, and hypoglycemia inhibits the conversion of thyroxine into the active T3 hormone. Hypoglycemia and hypothyroidism increase noradrenaline, and autistic people have been found to have more noradrenaline than normal. These changes, along with the general hypometabolism caused by excess serotonin, seem to justify the use of a thyroid supplement in autism and other serotonin-excess syndromes.
>>70954752
Overdose with the serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or with 5-hydroxytryptophan, which has effects similar to serotonin, can cause the sometimes fatal "serotonin syndrome." Symptoms can include tremors, altered consciousness, poor coordination, cardiovascular disturbances, and seizures. Treatment with anti-serotonin drugs can alleviate the symptoms and usually can prevent death.
The serotonin syndrome has been reported in users of St. John’s wort as an antidepressant. Since the other large neutral amino acids compete with tryptophan for entry into cells, the branched chain amino acids have some anti-serotonin activity, and this could be a justification for their use by athletes, since tryptophan and serotonin decrease glycogen stores and reduce endurance.
The only amino acid that has ever been found to be carcinogenic is tryptophan. Its ability to mimic estrogen in promoting the release of prolactin is probably responsible.
A large carbohydrate meal increases the ratio of tryptophan to the competing amino acids, and it has been proposed that this can shift the body’s balance toward increased serotonin. In an animal study, bromocriptine, which shifts the balance away from serotonin, reduced obesity and insulin and free fatty acids, and improved glucose tolerance.
All of these observations are easiest to understand in terms of the suppression of cellular energy. Serotonin, like estrogen, lowers cellular ATP and interferes with oxidative metabolism.
Serotonin, like histamine, has its proper physiological functions, but it is a mediator of stress that has to be systematically balanced by the systems that support high energy respiratory metabolism. The use of supplements of tryptophan, hydroxytryptophan, or of the serotonin promoting antidepressant drugs, seems to be biologically inappropriate.
>>70952503
>he needs a pill to cope with reality
>not being able to enjoy your brief time on this earth
>literally worrying about birds farting so much that you can't even go outside and meet someone
If hitler was alive you would be the first purged
>>70954843
Many of the symptoms produced by excess serotonin are also the symptoms of hypothyroidism. Thyroid, progesterone, and high quality protein nutrition are central to protection against the serotonin syndromes. (Progesterone, like LSD, can inhibit the firing of serotonergic nerves, but an overdose, unlike LSD, never produces hallucinations.)
One of the many actions of the "SSRI" (such as fluoxetine, Prozac), which aren’t related to their effect on serotonin, is to increase the concentration of allopregnanolone in the brain, imitating the action of increased progesterone. Following this discovery, Lilly got Prozac approved as a treatment for premenstrual syndrome. Since the production of allopregnanolone and progesterone depends on the availability of pregnenolone and cholesterol, a low cholesterol level would be one of the factors making this an inappropriate way to treat PMS.
If we think biologically, starting with the role of serotonin as a damage-induced inflammatory mediator, we can speculate that an infinite number of irritating substances will be “serotonin reuptake inhibitors.” The particular history of the “third generation antidepressants” is one that should disturb our tranquility.
That's all folks. original article here in case you havent looked already. It has notes and sources worth reading too.
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/serotonin-depression-aggression.shtml
>be anxious as fuck
>can't leave the house without starting to get a panic attack
>realize i need to take a step back and get away from the overstimulation of society
>quit all my addictions and meditate regularly
>anxiety is completely gone
man that was really hard! should have just popped a bunch of pills instead.
>>70950469
Maybe your mom is a hysterical bitch that needs to calm down without the use of drugs.
Also, really, a woman having anxiety issues? Did you get NY Times to stop the presses so you can publish your findings?
>>70955332
all this seratonin info is helpful. I've been on anti depressants for decades, but they just make me sluggish in general, but last weekend, just half a tab of lsd made me feel completely normal for the first time in a very long time. thanks for the posts, something for me to look into.
>>70957631
I took LSA, an analog of LSD, in high school a few times. I had issues with bullying and depression my first two years. After I took the LSA my Junior year, I realised none of it mattered, that my time there was finite and it would be over. That boosted my confidence, dampened my anxiety, and I stopped being bullied as much. It really did help.
I don't take it anymore because I feel like it served its purpose, and taking more would be just for recreation.
>>70950591
JIDF shillpost
>>70955266
>what are chemical imbalances in the brain
>what are their effects on mindset and happiness
it's not a choice nigger
>>70956487
Only fags meditate senpai
>>70957278
She works two jobs, full-time. Well meme'd though. Like I said, it runs in her family is absolutely hereditary
>>70958089
I'm not trying to sell Zoloft or SSRI's to people who don't need them. But for people like me who actually have chemical imbalances it helps straighten things out.
If you can handle life in this world without taking SSRIs, then you aren't fully redpilled yet.
>>70959170
Is she single?
>>70958089
These meds do actually work for some people, and they can make a difference, though I think only a small percentage really benefit from them long term. But sometimes they only work for a brief time by shaking up the neurochemistry, a few months perhaps, and then the body/mind begins to get back into old habits if the underlying personal/medical issues that caused the feeling of depression are not addressed or changed.
Of course, the pharma industry expects people to essentially 'subscribe' for life to their drugs, instead of use them as emergency solutions for acute situations. And most people would prefer taking a magic pill to solve the seemingly intractable issues in their lives, because they can't easily recognize the conditions in their personalities/relationships/etc that are causing them grief, and they have bought into the meme that it must be a chemical imbalance because everyone else seems happy enough.
So not everyone who is pro antidepressants is a shill, they or their friends/family may just have a positive experience with them at this point in their lives, but in 5, 10, 20 years, their opinion may be quite different.
>>70956487
>I quit weed and now I'm all better!
Fuck off
I've been on SSRIs since the early 90's. I was a total wreck then, and they helped me get my shit together enough to get to work.
I despise Paxil/Effexor. They're the devil to get off of, and in fact I have been on the same, miniscule dose for years because it's so scary to reduce it.
I would never advise anybody to take this shit long term like I have.
>>70952914
I bet you're a fucking blast at parties
>>70960529
who are you quoting?
>taking drugs with tons of side effects and unknown mechanism of action despite being shown not to perform better than placebo in clinical trials
Whew my laddie
>>70959551
Nope. Her and my dad both work.
>>70959333
This desu
>tfw /pol/ shitposting gave me anxiety/depression
>>70960635
I started only weeks ago. I plan to do it for about a year and then reevaluate.
I took SSRI's for 4 months, all it did was calm me down
I quite like being able to get angry about stuff so I stopped taking them
>>70952914
No need to project, you're clearly salty about your past addictions.
>>70961032
>everybody suffers from tons of side effects
>""""unknown""""
>implying they don't genuinely help the people who should actually be taking them
>>70961555
It's about anxiety, not anger.
>>70961708
Oh. Well my anxiety has shot right up since then actually
>>70961032
the mechanism is the same way mdma is working or other empathogenics
there are unknown parameters though since brain has billion of synapses like the transistors of a cpu but the mechanism is known
>>70961798
Well there ya go
>>70962302
I like my anxiety too
I don't want to like being outside
Fuck outside
>>70955266
lol hitler used drugs all the time, you faggot
not that it matters, he still sucked niggerdick
>>70962546
>4chan: The Post
>>70948295
>america
>take SSRI's
>go on shooting rampage
>>70948295
Enjoy fampai.
>SSRIs can cause various types of sexual dysfunction such as anorgasmia, erectile dysfunction, diminished libido, genital numbness, and sexual anhedonia (pleasureless orgasm).[35] Sexual problems are common with SSRIs.[36] Poor sexual function is also one of the most common reasons people stop the medication.[37]
>Occasionally symptoms of sexual dysfunction may persist after discontinuation of SSRIs.[35][38][39][40]
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor#Adverse_effects
>>70962744
I read numerous case studies about the particular drug I take before I started my prescription, there wasn't one incidence of sexual dysfunction.
The pharmaniggers have to list off of every potential side effect under the sun or their balls will get sued off.
>>70949422
>Shit like bipolar medication is infinitely worse looking on a record than a small dose of an SSRI to help with anxiety
That's bullshit, and I speak from first-hand experience because it hurt someone I knew very much.
If you want to teach English in Japan, one of the documents you must provide (in addition to a criminal background check) is a medical record, including all prescriptions for the last five years, signed by a doctor. Here's an application form. I know this because I went through this shit myself five years ago, and a good friend of mine (oneitis from high school) was rejected due to her meds and tattoos. We were supposed to make it to Japan together.
https://jetprogramusa.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/2016-self-assessment-medical-form1.pdf
Someone from the consulate/embassy will call the doctor to confirm.
My best friend was rejected for a CONSTRUCTION job due to his criminal record (mischief under $5000, his only conviction). This was at the height of the Toronto building boom. I guess they thought he'd steal from the yard or something. I heard a story from a guy at a party that his friend couldn't get an accounting job, despite having a 3.8 GPA from one of the best schools in this country, because they check your credit, and the guy's credit was shot when he got kicked out of this house, maxed his cards, and missed payments.
Medical record, criminal record, credit history, all of this shit will block off jobs for you, and nobody really gives a shit about your excuses.
>>70962744
>>SSRIs can cause various types of sexual dysfunction
Oh no what am I gonna do about all this sex I was having
>>70948295
>Use ssri get psycho. geez thanks doctor sshekkelstein for fucking up my mind when you dont know shit
>>70963241
You can't be this stupid. What was she taking? Having trouble with anxiety and taking a low dose of medication to help isn't a red flag for 99.9% of employers
>>70963241
How would they have any way of verifying whether or not the information is accurate? Medical records are private, are they not?
>>70963509
>31 posts by this ID
buddy, you're fucked.
>>70964047
It says right there that they contact your doctor.
>>70964641
Okay, but what's stopping you from going to a different GP than one who prescribed you an SSRI?
>>70956487
kind of hard to "step back" when you work 45 hours a week and its an office job that you are required to physically bring yourself to everyday.
They do work, problem is, today they give pills to anyone.
>>70963413
they can affect jacking off too. i was on an ssri and one of the side effects was much less penis sensitivity, took forever to orgasm, and orgasms felt much weaker. it took months after I stopped to get back to normal
>>70948295
Enjoy being retarded, by the literal definition of the word.
>>70952503
>You realize that it's beyond debate that issues with anxiety and depression to an extent that medication is necessary are the result of chemical imbalances in the brain, right?
no its not you dumb faggot, there is no concreter proof of the chemical imbalance theory
>but for a lot of people it's a chemical problem in their brain that is completely out of their control.
prove it.
>>70948295
>cuck if you go throw the degnerate jewry
>MEMESMEMESMEMES
why the fuck havent the mods banned your ass already
>>70964641
Posting in my own thread about a subject that intrigues me is so fugged XDDD
>>70965308
Which is why I believe that the people who say they don't do shit or that the effects are too adverse shouldn't be on them. If you're actually supposed to be taking them, they work like they're supposed to.
>>70967287
>theory
>>70967351
Because it's relevant to politics
>>70957879
Josh?
>>70948295
No and fuck off. I took Paxil and it caused permanent brain chemistry changes which left me even worse off for years and caused weed to trigger anxiety attacks in me for years when it was all that could help me.
It erased my personality and sex drive and made me brooding and quick to anger. The shit is all poison.
>>70957879
I loved LSA
>>70968627
>The effects it had on me are the effects it has on everyone
You probably just have a shitty doctor
>>70949882
This. I've had depression and anxiety for years I guess. been on zoloft for about 20 days and I feel confident it will get me up out of my bed and a productive member of society. I've tried every natural remedy I could and none of it even gets close to the effect I have with zoloft and it won't even be full strength until 4-6 weeks in.
No one knows why anxiety and depression are on the rise but I know its not my fault. There is a village in canada where 9/10 pregnancies result in girls and the 1/10 boys are feminized. THEY know that it's because of the factory across the river, whose fumes drift throughout their town. But before that I'm sure there were people saying "It's in your head," "anecdote," ">taking the pill jew," and kids blaming themselves for being less than a man naturally. Know we and they know that it's just bad luck and nothing to do with genetics. That's how I feel.
>>70949882
>My emotions are more nuance
What?
>>70969753
>No one knows why anxiety and depression are on the rise but I know its not my fault.
It's either hereditary, overstimulation, or instant gratification
>>70951331
>>70951658
>implying it isn't wholly environmental and a sign of the times and the poisoning of the population.
>>70951643
I've gotten more magical since being on it. Able to sit in silence and not think a thing just BE. I was only able to do that when I was really young. And I can dream, prophesize, and communicat with the other side.
>>70952914
Talk to us in 10 years. Also you're a fucking retard for not tapering so I'm sure you're overstating you mental wellness as well.
>>70953350
Even jesus drank wine and ate bread. Are you saying you know better than go?
>>70965470
I had that when I was on zoloft the first time before I quit because I felt I got a taste of no anxiety and tried to do it naturally. Now I'm on zoloft and seroquel for bipolar disorder and while it take me a while to orgasm sometimes they are crazy powerful like almost blackout powerful.
>>70970954
You're talking out of your butthole, famalamadingdong
>>70971139
>implying it isn't wholly environmental and a sign of the times and the poisoning of the population.
>>70952503
One simple question: If some people's brains are 'chemically imbalanced', then what does a 'chemically balanced' brain look like? How do you measure such a thing?
I used to be like uou fags, then I chose to change my viewpoint. I became a ranger, went to war, saw many countries.
The love for my country keeps me going and love for my future family. You need to center your pride and hope and stop being beta.
Fuck yeah
>>70962744
>>70963413
>>70965470
ya i tried a couple ssris, one completely ruined my libido, the other made me unable to orgasm but i could still keep it up (was good for my gf at the time though fucked her 1.5 hrs, not including foreplay)
ended up ditching it just take the occasional klonopin when i feel the walls falling around me and im good
