>Hundreds of raucous protesters, including striking Verizon employees, converged on a McDonald's restaurant in Times Square Thursday demanding a $15-an-hour minimum wage for fast food workers.
Is it finally happening guys?
http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/14/news/companies/mcdonalds-times-square-protest-15/index.html?sr=fbmoney041416mcdonalds-times-square-protest-150620PMVODtopLink&linkId=23448313
I make 18$ an hour as a technical assistant for a viral pathology lab. Fuck off.
>>70945438
Cure zika pls
>>70945438
You should have studied less lol.
>>70945438
>appeal to accomplishment fallacy
>false dilemma fallacy
>anecdotal fallacy
got more?
>>70945438
Stating hourly wage without location is meaningless. $15hr minimum makes sense for NYC because of how expensive living expenses are.
>>70945063
i make 25 bucks an hour, and get MASSIVE penalty rates along with long work hours and holiday shifts
i'm a cop, the work is grueling and it gets to the point where i walk in my house and collapse onto the bed after a shift, but it's worthwhile and i feel i have an obligation to help my community
if you seriously think you deserve anything similar to the amount of money i get, for making fucking burgers, you need to rethink your career choice
>tfw make $14/hr after eight years of annual $0.40 raises at walmart.
>>70945063
>Be landlord
>Minimum wage doubles
>Looks like rent is going to double next year too
>Poor people still poor
>>70945680
That's a good point. Imagine how fucked states like Alabama would be with a 15$/hr minimum wage.
>>70945951
Hey backroom man, what's for lunch today?
Just robot my shit up
>>70945661
wut...?
>>70945438
>Look at all these people organizing to better their lives
>Fuck them
> Fast food restaraunts all automate.
> This leads to better menus since they are no longer limited to choices that johnny excon can put together.
> This leads to a new fastfood war.
> We Demolition Man now.
Here's an idea, if you don't like what you make get a different job. There's a reason no skill jobs pay no skill money.
>>70945661
An idiot points to a turtle and calls it a Varanus komodoensis. The idiot is you.
>>70946346
> Arbitrary inflation will better their lives.
>>70945940
>>70945940
I don't it's fair that a lad like you who helps his community gets $25 an hour and the BP CEO gets a $14m bonus (when even the BP shareholders thought he shouldn't), but hey, incentives amirite
>>70945063
Didn't de Blasio already sign a bill for NYC?
Do those fucking retards finally realize it's not going to be $15 until 2020 or so?
>>70946346
The issue is more that $15/hr is an absurd demand. I'm very liberal economically, and I'd definitely be in favor of $10/hr or $12/hr, but $15...
Mexican, engineer, 5 years expertise. 4.23 USD per hour. Gotta go wetbacking to USA before is too late.
>>70946480
Cuomo fucked the whole state to $15/hour by 2022 I think, same as California.
>>70946467
Not justifying the extreme disparity but if they wanted him out they could do so.
The reason ceo's are so highly paid is because they are literally the figurehead for the company. Company fucks up, it's their face plastered on the news.
That's idea anyway.
>>70946467
I think that a person who oversees the refinement and delivery of oil to hundreds of millions of people each year is worth more than someone who only affects people in one community, but hey, equality amirite
>>70946583
Minimum wage if it rose with inflation and profit growth as other sectors did over the last 30ish years would be roughly $21/hr. Which is just basic math so the 15 is a very conservative raise compared to where it would be.
>>70946467
work's work senpai, somebody's gotta do it and most people won't
captcha: riot detroit
>>70946201
i hope this shit gets in faster as im able to help developing robots
>>70946457
>Making a higher wage will ruin their lives
>>70946763
Do the math on jobs "worth more than minimum wage", get back to me, then shut the fuck up.
>raise minimum wage
>prices of everything from foodstuffs to rent increases because of it
and what was accomplished then? Really. Besides bigger numbers.
>>70946763
It's naive to think you can arbitrarily change the pay rate and expect employers to take the hit and not pass the difference to the customer.
>>70946680
Didn't fast food workers get priority immediately to 15 after a year though? I don't have a problem with 15/hr for NY overall per say since it's just the state, and it really is nothing more than a temporary bandaid. But fuck that faggot for prioritizing god damn fast food workers over everyone else who does more important work.
>>70946763
>and profit growth
Do you see where you fucked up, faggot?
>>70946763
>if it rose with inflation
Okay fair en-
>...and profit growth
Damn you're retarded. You think people just work twice as hard to double profits? What is technology, the risk of which is held by the company not the employee
>>70946201
A robot will never ask for $15 an hour, and it will never sneeze in your food. I can't wait!
>>70946747
In the same year they made $6.5b of losses and kicked 7000 people out of a job? Pay him more, sure, he's the manager, but that's just fucking excessive.
>>70946694
CEO in charge of billions of dollars, thousands of employees lively hoods, responsible to thens of thousands of stock holders.
BP employees push a few buttons hand people cigarettes and say that will be 40.75 please swipe your card.
that is why they don't make the same money
>>70946826
You just missed the point. It's not a higher wage when the cost of living moves in accordance.
>>70945661
>>appeal to accomplishment fallacy
When was this a fallacy?
>>70946893
No.
Tell me jew.
How does ceos going from 50x to almost 500x, excluding bonuses, the wages of their employee not factor in to profit growth.
>>70945063
I agree there needs to be an increase in minimum wage but $15 is fucking idiotic. These fags seem to forget that you aren't suppose to make flipping burgers at Wendy's or Burger King a life time career.
>>70945063
Your job can literally be replaced by a machine and we're right at the point where that would actually be cheaper compared to your current wage. But sure, go ahead and protest because you want more money. Really good move.
>>70946951
Or fuck up your order or make hundreds of people sick every year either.
I make $39 an hour as a food artisan at Wendy's
McDonald's workers are garbage people and should just be paid in the garbage food they heat up.
>>70947020
You really think the cost of everything will grow proportionally?
>>70945063
Can fucking fastfood restaurants rollout automatic machines so we don't have to fucking listen to these fucking parasites anymore?
>>70945063
>why are there no restaurants or grocery stores in liberal/progresive-ruled, nigger infested areas?
I can't really object to it - it's NYC and someone has to work there right? I don't think any business in NYC is hurting for money, so they can afford to raise their employees' wages.
And for any insecure moron that cares if their salary is too close to a McD's employee, I bet you still wouldn't unabashedly claim the title "burger flipper".
>>70947209
Yes just like they've historically always done.
If you put lettuce on my chicken sandwich after i specifically asked not to. you dont fucking deserve $15 an hour
How to get $15 an hour: get a different job.
>>70947067
>bringing in ceos' salaries into an argument about how regular employees' wages should go up simply because profit growth does
Do you see where you fucked up in that post, faggot?
>>70947307
Source that. Things do eventually grow to parity, but it takes a long fucking time. Enough time for someone's life to improve.
>>70946820
Fuck you. I'm studying for robotics. Wait for me.
>>70946194
I'm home on a NEET simulation for 11 days ("vacation"), so I might go out for lunch.
I'm tired as fuck as I work overnight as you know.
>>70947421
Show me one single time any service based employer didn't pass a financial hit directly to the consumer.
>>70946747
>oversees the federal teat sucking
>oversees the spreading of corruption and the lobbying for invasive foreign policy of the US government
The only thing oil execs deserve is a noose from a tall tree
>>70947197
>$39
Not anymore. You're fired.
>>70945063
I'm guessing the amount of times inflation is mentioned in this thread is zero as usual.
Having minimum wage not tied to inflation is having a decresing minimum wage. The US minimum wage is currently much lower than it has been in a long time, because it hasn't been bumped up to meet inflation.
If it was adjusted for inflation since last time, it'd be roughly 15 dollars.
This means that the 15 dollar minimum wage that'd "ruin everything" for businesses.. is the same fucking relative cost they already dealt with earlier.
The left and right are economically illiterate retards.
>>70947320
>anons go on and on about how retard work deserves retard pay
>anon turns around and bitches about retard quality from retard pay
You get what you pay for, faggot
The easiest way to find out how much your job is worth is by posting an ad with the wage online.
>>70945063
>>70946680
Shit, NBCLA is showing a bunch in Los Angeles, protesting for nation wide $15/hour
>>70946201
Robots deserve rights to.
I demand days off and a living wage for robots.
>>70946672
>"""""""""""MEXICAN ENGINEER"""""""""""
>"""""""""""MEXICAN ENGINEER"""""""""""
>"""""""""""MEXICAN ENGINEER"""""""""""
>"""""""""""MEXICAN ENGINEER"""""""""""
>"""""""""""MEXICAN ENGINEER"""""""""""
>>70948195
kek
>>70946672
>Mexican Engineer
You mean the guy that designs bridges with aluminum struts?
>>70946352
>Implying you wouldn't get Jack Black'd instantly in a demo man situation.
Fuck them. People work their ass off for years to make that and all this would do is fuck the hard workers. Poor people will still be poor and those who actually worked for their pay will now become poor because everything will rise in price.
California is about to become Detroit on a bigger scale because of that faggot jerry brown. The fucker even said it wouldn't be good for the economy here, but he did it anyways.
>>70946352
>mfw demolition man was right
Considering that the value of minimum wage when adjusted for inflation was like $11-12/hr in the 70's, I don't see why anyone would be against this today. People are making less while everything costs more.
Shit, McDonald's has programs about how to enroll the gibsmedats employees on govt. welfare so they don't have to pay them.
Fuck McDonald's.
>>70947878
Probably one of the retards you're referring to but how exactly can any wage not be tied to inflation? A rate may be listed arbitrarily but wouldn't it eventually be adjusted naturally if they ever hoped to fill the position?
Why protest random restaurants? They should be in front of the HQ.
>>70945438
I make $14.50 and i'm a manager of a hotel.
>>70945661
Are saying his post is
>NOT
>AN
>ARGUMENT
?
> McDonald's workers
Who cares? It's not like they're pilots or teachers. These people are nobodies.
McDonalds could fire them all and replace them with stupid teens within a few hours.
Stupid Bernie supporters.
>>70947878
>not taking population density into account
lol swedes
more worker -> less value they have
>>70948539
Because others work or go to school for years to get a high paying job. It's called minimum wage for a reason.
Every fast food restaurant is having 4 or 5 for $4 deals now, so it's getting pretty cheap.
>>70946763
So your solution to inflation is more inflation? Idiot.
>>70948573
Not even the companies, but politicians. These idiots want it changed nationally, business can't change minimum wage. If they could, they would lower it.
Companies are given a minimum to pay, why pay more when they don't have to?
>>70947878
> A wage is a payment in currency.
> Currency is tied to inflation.
> A wage is not.
wat.
>>70948539
>>People are making less while everything costs more
>infinitely increasing amount of people
>land and resources are roughly the same
>surprised that value of goods rises and value of labor decreases
>>70945661
>The fake fallacy fallacy
>>70948521
Just hope Taco Bell doesn't win in the real one. Although I heard it was changed to Pizza Hut for the euro releases.
Would you like fries with that phased plasma bolt burst, meat-bag... er, uh I mean Sir?
>>70949017
>Being payed by the currency that is tied to inflation.
>>70946194
I work at a walmart in alabama and the starting pay is $10.50
It has royally fucked everything up, but anyone with some sense already knew that was going to happen. Theyve had to cut hours and cut full timers to part time. Some ole bullshit.
>>70949277
Enlighten me then. Are stocks traded in gold pieces?
>>70945063
Some simple numbers here.
McDonalds sells 6,000$ worth of product in a day.
Pays for 128 man hour from open to close. That's just about 2,000$
So right there 1/3 of the money taken in on a given day, gone.
Not even counting what it took to buy the food that they sold.
Nor the maintenance on the store.
Or even what Corporate spends on corporate matters.
>>70945680
its not even that
raising minimum wage will just force the bossman to fire people, overload the rest to make up for the lost man and give everyone the 15.
That is until more shit becomes automated lol
>>70947042
>I accomplished this therefore everyone else should
>>70949205
Del Taco is better.
Taco Bell only has the Crunchwrap going for them
>>70949519
I like that /pol/ keeps saying buy gold, but can only list one or two companies that take gold and only African and Middle East countries because their money is worthless
>>70949801
They changed the game with the whole 24-hour thing though. I remember making 3am runs to there back when you literally couldn't get food after 10pm unless it was a cracked out Dennys or Waffle House.
>>70945661
>the calling out fallacy fallacy
I remember when I first took rhetoric class too
>>70948888
You do realize minimum wage wasn't touched for like 40 years right? People today are making drastically less than their counterparts decades ago while everything costs more today. It is significantly more difficult to escape poverty today. It severely cripples social mobility.
I'm sorry that you're angry that your hard work feels undervalued, but welcome to capitalism: Your employer values you so little that he only pays you what he legally needs to avoid prosecution. Its why we have such fucking strict building codes. People will rather you die than invest in the safety of their buildings. Ethics and moral guiding principles don't mix with money.
Go help these people, because it'll turn around and help you when your kike employer sees he can't get away with undervaluing the effort you underwent to educate yourself.
Not helping raise minimum wage is literally enabling your Jewish overlords to cuck you out of a reasonable salary.
>>70946951
Then Judgement Day™ comes and the machines Rise
>>70946467
The CEO makes decisions that affect the entire company. One bad business decision and they face bankrupting the entire company.
Go start your own company and become a billionaire if you have a problem with how much they make.
>>70945063
People who live in New York city probably should have something like a $15 minimum wage based on the cost of living in that city.
Although, desu if you're poor you don't belong their. Not really sure who would do the poor people jobs though.
I went to McDonalds on my way home from work today.
In the 5-10 minutes I was there, the bouncers had to throw people out on three separate occasions. One obvious junkie, one old drunk, and a group of teenagers being loud pricks.
Give those guys a raise, they're definitely earning their cash. One of them was a little asian guy who looked properly into it though, like he lived for this shit, so he might be up for doing it for free anyway. Like a mad fast food security gurkha.
>>70949033
>do nothing while the cycle of poverty increases and the rich get richer while your fellow countrymen suffer
>emigrate to wealthier nations and take advantage of currency exchange rates to send money back home that's actually realistic compared to the cost of living
>submerge yourself wrists deep in shit just so your kids have enough to eat and go to school
>create a spiralling downward economy where price of goods is dependent on money earned by the diaspora rather than local economy
>production and industry leave your country
>forced to work even harder as price of goods back home increases
>number of migrants increases in your host nation which also drives down your wages because your employer can replace you
>everyone loses
>>70950300
>People today are making drastically less than their counterparts decades ago while everything costs more today
>while everything costs more today
You better be kidding.
Apart from property, which is obviously common sense since land doesn't magically expand while the number of people in your shit city infinitely does, most things that offers the same value are far more expensive then.
>>70946672
>Mexican engineer
If anyone should be building wall...
>>70945661
I can smell the cheeto-crusted fingers on the keyboard from here
>enter McDonalds for first time in a while
>there's about 20 self service computers
>there is only one McSpastic cashier working
>service is way quicker and efficient than before
Why do they demand pay rises when computers are already doing most of their job?
>>70945063
They will leave without a fight. They know they do not deserve or even really need $15/hr. They are not willing to risk getting beaten into a coma by riot police over it.
>>70950300
>I'm sorry that you're angry that your hard work feels undervalued, but welcome to capitalism
Don't blame this problem on capitalism, commie. Of course employers will try to get away with paying you the minimum amount possible, but that's exactly why there's competition. Competitors want labor, and good labor in particular is a valuable and limited resource.
These are fucking McDonalds employees we're talking about. They don't even need to know basic algebra, a calculator does all the work for them at the register, and everything there can be automated. Their labor is not worth $15/hour, and paying so the business would lose profit.
>>70945063
Why stop at just $15 a hour?
>>70951006
>McDonald's
>Bouncers
Maybe I live in a low crime/white area but I kek'd and thought there was a McDonald's theme dance club in the UK haha.
>>70951067
>>the rich get richer while your fellow countrymen suffer
Wrong. Competent people gets richer, incompetent people gets poorer.
>>emigrate
Actual competent people don't do this here fortunately.
Only trustfund babbies who can't compete with actual competent people do this.
>>70945438
cost of living in NYC. mcdonalds at time square.
>>70945661
>Substituting explanation for premise
Just because the arguement is fallacious does not mean it is wrong nor void.
They need to take all these 15$ employees to camps, gas them, and replace them with robots.
>>70948195
Atchually, electronic engineer. But thats funny, under mexican design and supervition, our constructions are el crapo. Under white supervition we are the finest.
>>70945063
>live in NYC
>go to mcdonalds in times square when relatives came to NYC and wanted to go there
>machines already there
>go to mcdonalds by my jewuni near union square
>machines already there
>go to chinatown to take a piss in the mcdonalds
>machines already there
>go to soho mcdonalds
>go to downtown brooklyn mcdonalds near my old high school
>machines already there
>literally one cashier on duty, some cooks and a manager/supervisor in all of them
>tfw what is going to happen to the "fight for $15" protestors get what they want in NYC and I just got the sneak peek of it
I just feel sad for the small business owners here in NYC since it's already hard enough for most of them to even operate without having to hire temporary/off the book workers.
I am 19 years old and am a first year Air conditioning apprentice, I earn $10/HR AU. How the baboons think they deserve $15 an hour is baffling.
Is there any serious talk about raising the min wage in the US or are they just a vocal protest group
>>70948463
>implying I didn't make 15$ per hour in my braindead college internship
>implying I don't make way more now
>implying wages ever scale with effort
>implying you don't have crab mentality
Mccdonalds loves scamming its customers as much as it loves taking advantage of its committed work force. Given the company's value, $15 dollars isn't even the least they should be paid...they should earn so much more, for without them the company would be in taters. This is one of companies which is almost entirely dependent on customer service.
Singularity is here bois
>>70951117
http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/fossil-fuels/the-real-price-of-oil
>8x more expensive today compared to 1970
>"only" 3x more expensive even with oil PR shills bullshitting the numbers
>>70949547
>pulling numbers out of your ass and hoping it'll look like a point when you stick them together.
>people want to be paid $2400 for flipping burgers
I don't need 15$ an hour
I do it for free
>>70950300
There will not be jobs for me to slave away at if the minimum wage is raised too high, and $15/hr is far too high. $10.50 is probably more reasonable. Not that it matters much since we are only a few decades away from mass automation and the death of the minimum wage job.
>>70950675
It is 10.50/hr and a $15/hr minimum wage was put in the works for ~2018, but got delayed due to the budget issues.
>>70952231
The $6 million dollar mexican?
>>70946672
>Mexican Intellectuals
>>70951989
I work at a grocery store where I make 11 an hour recently hired and all I do is talk shit and eat blueberries in the back
This thread is making me realize how lucky I am
>>70950300
>You do realize minimum wage wasn't touched for like 40 years right?
Why not? Those faggots like to protest, why took them so long now.
Again, they're retards asking for change for NATIONAL MINIMUM WAGE by protesting outside restaurants.
>>70951701
>be born poor
>job is so shit they literally tell me to enroll for food stamps because they don't want to pay me enough money to eat
>told by boss to work hard because he was also poor, but "toughed it out with the money you're making right now"
>mfw it was enough to rent an apartment in the 70's, feed himself, AND pay for his college due to tuition rates being so low
Yeah keep telling yourself that
Seriously commiefuck, how can you justify that your current minimum wage are not livable when 80% of everyone else not in the fucking USA can live with a small fraction of what you earn.
And yes, that includes living costs.
Here in Indonesia, minimum wage workers had to work 3 hours for a meal in McDonalds and 80 hours just for rent every month.
If human beings are all equal and the same, what makes you commiefaggots there deserves hundred times more than the average worker here for the same fucking burger-flipping job?
Hint: It haves lots to do with your EVUL 1%
>>70951989
Apprenticeships always get garbage pay, the minimum wage for them here is below the regular minimum wage
>>70945951
I heard the managers make a shot load at wal mart
>$15 an hour to flip burgers
Fuck man, I made less money than that back when I worked help desk. I wonder if these people realize how many of them will be laid off if this happens.
>>70952155
> That kawaii bandana.
>>70952114
http://www.forbes.com/sites/caroltice/2013/08/30/million-dollar-burger-the-most-lucrative-fast-food-restaurants/#436ccafb6594
~~$2.6mn /store annum
Which is about $71k /day on average.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/196672/employees-per-establishment-in-us-fast-food-restauants-since-2002/
With an *average* of 15.45 employees (assuming 24h operation) that means Mcdonalds has to pay out 370.8*Minimum wage.
If we assume $15, then McDonalds pays $5562 per day to employees.
Which is like 8% of their daily revenue.
Very bad hypothetical situation which was very unspecific but you get the idea...
>>70945951
>tfw make $14 an hour under the table because I'm pretty good at Photoshop
>>70952576
Don't stay in an area you can't afford.
Go to cheaper place, be an entrepreneur there.
The only education you'll need is a few tabs away from your browser.
Your boss didn't have google and internet and shit, and he still made it.
>>70952576
grow the fuck up, stop using frog memes, start working harder
the gap you're experiencing between him and you is the fact that in the 70s either you starved to death or worked every day of your life until you succeeded
>>70946201
That's not true. I live in Phoenix and have never heard of a robot McD's.
>>70945995
>Someone else capitalizes on the opportunity and expands their complex, keeps rent the same
>Landlord that raised rent is now left without tenants
>His wife leaves him
>Sees her a month later taking public transportation
>Who is she going to go see?
>From the window he can see his wife straddling Bernie Sanders with her eyes rolling up into her head
>landlord's greedy fw he gets cucked by the combination of free market forces and prudent regulatory socialism that is the american economy
>>70952597
>Seriously commiefuck, how can you justify that your current minimum wage are not livable when 80% of everyone else not in the fucking USA can live with a small fraction of what you earn.
Because your standards of living are so low other nations literally export factory work to you to take advantage of how little you're worth relatively to their own countrymen
The cost of living in America is not the same as the cost of living in some shit backasswards tropical island in the Pacific.
>>70952917
>implying his bleeding heart tenants would bother moving out when they can pay with their new EARNED wages
>>70952840
I wonder about this
Does anyone know of a good place to live in America where a minimum wage job can keep you living on your own and fed?
>>70952576
Literally just borrow money to go to college and get a 2 for 2.
>>70952597
They are fat and lazy and want the nicer things in life. Even our poorest of the poor, who are so poor that they need government food aid, can afford phones and a safe apartment and possibly a car. Most of their sob stories are about how riding the bus to work is hard and they got an apartment that is too expensive so they do not have much spending money.
They are so privileged just for being Americans and they do not realize it.
>>70952114
I work at a McDonald's. I can read the projected sales numbers.
I can read our projected man hour number.
And I can do basic math.
>>70952917
>sanders doing the cucing
>sanders not the one being cucked
What fantasy world do you live in?
He was cucked out of his own speech by BLM protestors. The bulls were fucking female. And he stood there and took it like a good little cuck.
someone post that image of him
>>70953084
Sorry, dipshit, you need roommates. It was like that even for the boomers.
Ether way, minimum wage doesn't need to exist.
>>70952800
That seems more like it, when I was working at a store that paid minimum wage the weekly wage budget was 5% of the takings from the week before, no high street store could survive spending 33% of its income on wages.
>>70953084
I did it back before I went to college living in central PA. Worked as a temp worker in a warehouse. Fucking sucked.
>>70952991
>cost of living
Oh I didn't know a big mac in the US is 45 FUCKING DOLLARS.
Do you even reading comprehension?
And no, minimum wage burger flippers doesn't deserve a middle-class standard of living.
That would ruin the entire definition of middle-class.
>>70953323
Central California
>>70953259
Yeah thought so
I do know of some studios that still charge around 700
That with a full time minimum wage job at 11 an hour seems within my limits
>>70945063
$15 a hour to poison people?WTF
>>70952839
I'm shit at photoshop so I might hire you. Gotta love demand.
>>70952710
I don't know anyone from my shift who as went on to become management in any form (other than the four who became department managers which are still hourly). Propaganda saying they promote from within is bullshit because out back in personnel office there is pics of all the management with their first position held at the company was a management trainee.
I don't have a GED and I will never see this hourly wage if I get fired. I honestly don't know what I'm doing even in my 30s.
>>70953403
>studios
>STUDIOS
senpai, move out into the middle of bumfuck nowhere and rent a 3 bedroom 1 bathroom plus ensuite house
i'm out on a post in the middle of bumfuck nowhere: QLD and i pay 210 dollars for this
Does the USA really have like 30 year old people that work at McDonalds and just cook shit. The only people in Australia over like 21 working at McDonalds are the Managers and If the plays is 24 hours the night shift and They would probably be getting $25-$30 an hour because of penalty rates.
>>70952056
why even give it a head?
>>70952800
most mcdonalds in the US are franchised not corporate owned. the margins for franchise stores are thinner, you have to buy the food, certain technology, license, etc. from McDonalds authorized suppliers and then pay employees + keep your building up.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-typical-margins-for-a-franchise-restaurant
>Here are the average numbers for a McDonald Franchise in the U.S.
>As per my experience consulting clients, these costs are slightly higher and on average a McDonald's can be assumed to make between 6-8% in Operating Margins.
the franchisees would be BTFO by a $15 minumum wage. the law is passed but doesn't go in effect until 2017 in seattle for $15 minimum wage and most cashiers in the area at mcdonalds got replaced by pic related. and that's just the start. robots making the food is next (done in some areas, but wider rollouts).
>>70953496
Oh break room anon I don't know if you remember me from trump threads
I use to ask you questions about how you get to work and things like that every night about 2 months ago
I would tell you I'm also 30 and couldn't find a job or even get hired at Walmart
Well I moved out of state and was hired within a week at a grocery store
>>70945063
I make 12 an hour as head of maintenance for a church
FUCK OFF
this is better than a law forcing the employer to pay them $15
this way they can negotiate with mcdonalds and do proper business, make their own agreements
>>70953258
Those that are cucked do not realize who the bull is. - Confucious
When I last tried to tip the guy who sweeped up my chips he shit a Big Mac
>>70945063
$15 an hour just to put food in a bag and hand it out the window in between scratching your ass?
Sounds great. You're all fired.
>>70953067
Paying more when you can pay less? That's not how the free market works...
>>70951649
>Don't blame this problem on capitalism, commie. Of course employers will try to get away with paying you the minimum amount possible, but that's exactly why there's competition. Competitors want labor, and good labor in particular is a valuable and limited resource.
Have you ever traveled outside of America? Did you ever notice how all the stores here are...samey? Every drug store sell the same few brands. Everyone carries the same cigs and chips....
Do you really think you're in a free market society my friend? A society where your choice of internet providers is Comcast and....Comcast because they have a deal with Verizon not to service your area?
Have you ever looked up H1B visas and what they're doing to the tech sector?
You are owned as a slave to a few brands. You don't have a choice. You are given the illusion of choice. You are owned.
are these commie fucks trying to raise welfare benefits with these pay increases?
GAS THEM ALL
>>70953704
Human designed robots are better at getting around places because every town on the planet is designed for humans. Plus human shaped is a pretty good design if you want a bipedal robot. We are well designed creatures.
Stupid fucks! If they bothered to keep up with politics, they would know that our Cuck of a governor already passed the $15.00 hour minimum wage law. It will go up $2.00 an hour over the next 3 years till it hits 15.
Stupid fucks protesting to get what they already got.
>mfw burger flippers will be making almost as much money as I do with a job that required a bachelor's degree
>>70953629
That is exactly what is happening.
They want workibg the cashier at the Mcdonald's to be a legitimate career option. Thwy are fucking idiots. I hope they are replaced with machines
>>70953783
That has jack shit to do with capitalism or free trade
That said it doesn't take a genius to figure out that black baby isn't your kid
mcdonalds robots when?
im sure the service will improve, the niggers at the ones by my work can't get a two item order correct
>>70953981
/thread
>>70953744
I vaugely remember. I believed I mentioned the city I live in and how the buses stop at 6pm and dont run on the weekends. I drive a 2004 /pol/ approved nigger killer (a Subaru). I only live a 5 minute drive from work if I decide to not follow the speed limit.
Glad to hear you got a job, though I'm not sure how much you had to leave behind in moving.
>>70954008
that don't make any sense
>>70953915
Liberals generally sucks at free market, that the point I was trying to make.
Hell I can even argue most people became liberals because they suck at free market.
>>70945940
sounds like you're too fucking spoiled for it
>>70946680
$15 is stupid and still leaves everyone poor and unable to buy shit. you cant raise family or buy house with that.
call me when someone wants to really change and make the minimum $99 per hour or even more.
then we can all be rich. no more poor fags ever again
>>70954074
Lol this is fucking funny as. You pretty much can't do that shit here because once you turn 21 then they have to pay you like $20 an hour so any job that requires no skill has people under 21 doing it.
>>70952917
NYC is one of the most in demand places in the entire world. The other place that kept rent lower will fill up quickly and the place that raised rent will fill up quickly afterwards too.
>>70945680
I can see it now one cashier getting paid $15 an hour and fifty people in line
>>70954099
Yeah I was that Anon moved out to Colorado I didn't have much I actually took everything I owned my shitposting masturbation machine and my bag of clothes
>>70946763
this is why we need a minimum of somewhere between $99 and $400 per hour
>>70945063
All fast food should close their doors for good and deport their ex employees to prevent welfare maximus.
>>70954176
You can also argue that you can fly and have heat vision.
It doesn't really matter, does it?
But back to the real topic at hand, $15 an hour is pretty sweet. I'm so glad the Occupy movement made today's political environment possible and shifted the national culture to the left.
>>70946951
>>70947176
This. Can't wait for a guard robot incase any niggers decide to fuck the place up and rob it. The robot electrocutes anything it touches
>>70954139
Robots are shaped like people because they need to move around houses and shit that were built for people. A horse cant fit through your house, so you would not want a horse-shaped robot.
>>70954289
Which is why we need a living wage guarantee.
>>70945438
i make 25$ and im a novice carpenter lmao.
>>70954417
Death robots guarding your property is probably illegal in Canada. I know in the US you cannot set up a trap with the intent to kill someone with it. It would probably just be allowed to restrain the intruder and alert the police.
>>70954235
tell that to the next cop that saves your life
"25 dollars an hour to potentially spend the last 5 minutes of your life vomiting blood on some random guy's floor? That's too much!"
>>70954478
Why don't we just stop with the keynesian monitorist policy that is creating the situation instead of doing what is essentially a reverse split on min wage so they can keep doing it?
Perhaps you're just a fucking idiot.
>>70947011
then you become a CEO.
they get paid because there are only so many people in this world that can do that job.
if it was easy why are you not a CEO right now making all the wrongs in the world better?
same reason you are not starting for the Lakers... no aptitude and most certainly no ability
Who's ready for 10 dollar whoppers?
Good thing I dont really eat fast food besides maybe once every 1-2 months.
>>70953742
LMAO at that pic.
Useful idiots BTFO
>>70949572
Automation will happen no matter what. Basic income is the obly future I see after that. Nobody is goong to want to be poor.
>>70945063
> be a landlord for apartment building
> wages go up, so do my costs for maintenance and other services
> the new min wage earners rent now goes up to reflect my costs
> they now have the same amount of free money after everything around them goes up
> we just created a new poor
Feels good.
>>70953981
>You are owned as a slave to a few brands. You don't have a choice. You are given the illusion of choice. You are owned.
Don't talk like you, as a citizen of US are not directly responsible for this.
You lot got too privileged and weak you let this happen to your nation. Globalists running your education systems, the media indirectly running your 'democracy'.
These things doesn't just happened. These things happened because you let the elites and the jews got the better of you lot.
>>70946201
>robots make your food with near-perfect precision and don't bitch or complain.
>super fast and efficient service
>don't have to worry about some spic/nigger spitting/doing something to your food because "fuck whitey"
>no niggers
>no spics
>no fucking niggers
>no fucking spics
IM READY FOR THE FUTURE
>>70954552
Why don't we implement anarcho syndicalism and grant workers ownership of the fruits of their labor?
>>70946201
what a shame this is not a factual article. all the quotes are office space references
>>70953981
>Have you ever traveled outside of America?
I was born from another country. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that the US, even with all its faults, is by far the best for starting businesses or finding services. Most other countries poor people suffer from hunger. But not the fucking US. The poor folk here suffer from fucking obesity. All the poor immigrants will sing "sign me up" in unison.
>You are owned as a slave to a few brands. You don't have a choice. You are given the illusion of choice. You are owned.
False. I (and every person here) can freely choose not to buy those services. They're not protected by the government, they'll go out of business. I think you're confusing the 'illusion of choice' with what was already chosen by the people. Everyone uses facebook even though it's a botnet but that doesn't mean it dominates my life. I remember when myspace was the big bad, and when google didn't exist. You don't know shit.
>>70954417
>guy robs store
>robot electrocutes him and beats the shit out of him
>handcuffs him
>hovers away
>OOOOWWWWW LIFE ON THE OUTSIDE AIN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE
>>70947421
if you really wanted to improve someones life why are you here talking about the bullshit poorfag $15 per hour? that wont do jack monkey shit.
improving would be the minimum $99 per hour.
stop being a bigot homo republican and lets make some real change
>>70945063
>we are worth more
These faggots don't know how free markets work
>>70946680
SOAR
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In Before $20/hr Living Wage
If McDonald's Get'$15, everyone needs to demand $50 a hour to be able to eat and support their family
>>70954785
>a nurse dies every day
sounds like you need to re-read my post, junior
>>70954490
>>70954425
that still don't explain why it has a head, there is no need for a head on that robot, it just needs the arms
>>70954742
>anarcho syndicalism
because no one would invest in start ups, dolt.
>>70945063
Fuck off op. I may have been lucky to work at a family owned business as opposed to anything owned by the jews, so i already make this. But since most people DO work for the jews, voting in a better wage is fucking asine and childish. Start your own business, move up in position, change jobs, or man the fuck up.
>>70954425
wouldn't it fit in more places if it didn't have a head though?
>>70954836
Why can't we just blame realty for this
If it was just cheaper by a hundred or 2 then no one would need higher wages
>>70954408
>It doesn't really matter, does it?
It does though.
If people that wants $15/hour are generally shit financially, then you will be giving $15/hour to people that would waste those capital for unnecessary shit.
That won't be good for your economy at all, even more inflation etc etc.
>>70951777
It just means the workers of viral pathology lab companies should band together to demand higher wages for their services. Instead said lab rat looks at fast food service industry workers demanding a higher wage and instead of going. 'I deserve more money for my work too.' He believes his wage is static and thus by raising the wage of fast food workers to be $3 less than his, his job will be less considered less valuable.
In other words he's just a perfect pawn for the jews who pit workers against workers.
>>70947421
Then why not 200$ an hour, more money is more better, right?
>>70954408
Yeah, not having jobs is pretty sweet, bro.
>>70954478
Is a living wage a recent meme? I remember my mother kvetching about this in the early 90s (she wasn't an activist or anything, just a low skill worker like myself).
>>70954711
UBI is one of the most r-selected things I have ever heard.
>>70954309
I hope to see you around in the generals (I guess not so easy since I only trip up in this case)!
>>70945680
Everywhere is expensive in keknada since commodities cost like 2 to 3x over here compared to the states and housing prices in major cities are starting to reach the retard levels of hipster america. Plus we end up spending like 30%+ of our income on taxes once you factor in sales tax. Combine that with the shit value of our dollar and some one who is paid $15 american dollars is earning on par with most university grads here.
>>70946816
Fast wood work is not necessary or respectable work. We'd all be better off if the fat slobs learned to cook and all fast food joints fucked right off out of here. Any person with any self respect does not eat that shit.
Fuck off, you are not worth more than the factory workers or tradesmen.
>>70954408
Why stop at $15? Why not $30? Why not $100? Is there a downside?
And if the downside is "Inflation" then why is $15 NOT going to cause it?
>less than 400$ per hour
Kek you guys are pathetic.
Even hobo here makes at least 25$ per hour.
>>70955075
"Livable Wage" is a buzzword, it sounds better than "Socialism."
>>70955146
>Fuck off, you are not worth more than the factory workers or tradesmen.
you do realize i'm a cop, right?
>>70945940
>i make low bucks and work too hard for it
>this is everyone else's fault and you deserve to make less than me
lol maaaaaaate
>>70954503 #
oh wait holy shit, you?
you think there's a good chance of that happening to YOU?
HAHAHA
cops arent dying left and right in white counries dude
the contruction industry has a much higher mortality rate
>>70945063
Why don't we just give everyone a billion dollars then nobody will be poor anymore and we will all drive ferraris and live in mansions in the best parts of town right guys?
>>70954802
I envision something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao5bl5bqptY
>>70954917
>>70954978
I do not know actually. I was thinking maybe it could be useful because you would need to see a lot of things at head-height, but a robot could just put little eyes on its hands or something for that and then move the hands to where it wants to see. This thing just seems to have a flashlight for a head, so maybe they just wanted it to look more human for the aesthetics?
>>70945063
DON'T DO THIS
Hooker will be charging more that $20 a hour now
>>70954503
This. Back the fuck off the cops, they keep you alive, just like the military. Except the military gets to know who to shoot.
>>70947878
I mean to me that makes some amount of sense. Hasnt it always been kinda proportional to the times. When was the last minimumwage change? and I asume that was proportional. So could it not use some updating, maybe not $15 but something livable to atleast get on your feet with an education or something.
>>70945940
>grueling
>cop
K.
>>70954779
>False. I (and every person here) can freely choose not to buy those services. They're not protected by the government, they'll go out of business. I think you're confusing the 'illusion of choice' with what was already chosen by the people.
Then you'd mostly likely die unless you live under the delusion of the rugged individualist who lives off the land.
>>70947878
>Increasing the minimum wage with inflation won't increase the inflation rate.
Uh...
>>70955395
>americans would literally die by not using facebook
I'm not even surprised m8.
>>70955354
You do know an education used to be alot more affordable before the federal student loan bubble right?
Colleges charge so much because they know all their students will be getting big gibs from the feds.
>>70955395
>Then you'd mostly likely die unless you live under the delusion of the rugged individualist who lives off the land.
False again. I make $95k salary, and I'm entry level in my field.
>>70955395
>He cannot innawoods
McKillYourself my man.
>I make $$ an hour doing [blank]
>Minimum wage employees want 0.5$
>How fucking dare they.
I live in california. I earned more than minimum wage. When the minimum wage increased so did my wages.
But I guess /pol/ has a contrarian quota to fill.
>>70955340
Cop here. No we don't.
Fuck off bootlicker.
Your type is even worse than niggers.
>>70953332
>>cost of living
>Oh I didn't know a big mac in the US is 45 FUCKING DOLLARS.
>Do you even reading comprehension?
>thinking people in a fucking tropical island climate have the same climate challenges as a country in temperate climates
>actually trying to equivocate the economy of scale in America to Indonesia
>>70955354
> When was the last minimum wage change?
A few years ago.
>>70952850
>idealizing the 70s like hippies didn't exist
>>70955570
>I live in california. I earned more than minimum wage. When the minimum wage increased so did my wages.
That's what they call inflation, paco.
>Not working in a field where you get paid a salary
Lots of poorfags itt
Will your mother's pension go up when hyper inflation hits? No? Then it's a terrible idea, unless your name is jamal sr. without a dollar in retirement savings to your name.
>>70955150
no downside except if we had $110 per hour i could work 3 hrs a day and be fucking rich.
everyone could do it and still have time to smoke as much weed and play vidya as i want
ya we need 100 per hour fuck ya
>>70955652
But my dollar still has the same purchasing power.
>>70946417
>if you don't like what you make get a different job.
>implying it's that easy
>implying all the jobs haven't been shipped over seas
If you don't have like a MD or JD or Master's degree here.....you're fucked
>>70955340
>keep us alive
So do the guys running the water works, dumbass
just another common job
>>70955256
>low bucks
25 AUD an hour isn't actually that bad
point is, I've been working at this job for multiple years. i've actually been personally advised to try for SERT (yes, the counter-terrorism squad)
if you're over 20 and you're still working at a mcdonalds, you need to change your career. i joined when i was 21, i'm 26 now.
>>70955262
yes actually, there is a very large chance
i know you probably haven't been to australia in the past 5 years, but the ice problem is getting worse and guns are seemingly popping out of people's "locked" safes and into the hands of degenerates
i've already been shot at, there's a chance i'll actually be hit some day
that day may be the last day of my life senpai, i have a wife and kids.
>>70955372
>hasn't done 16 hours straight and then been brought back 10 hours later for another 12 hours
>28 hours of work with 10 hours rest
sounds like s o m e o n e has never seen the workload of a cop in bumfuck, woop woop.
>>70953084
Cincinnati has been good to me. You can find apartments and cars for pretty cheap and once you get your feet under you there's a load of higher educational/vocational schools around.
Lots of jobs in the low to unskilled markets in manufacturing/logistics sectors as well.
I pay $435 a month for a one bedroom, 537 sq. ft. apartment.
