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Is it bad to have a high percentage of Neanderthal DNA in your genetic make up? Most Europeans have somewhere between 1-4%, is there any advantages/disadvantages of having a higher amount?
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>>70944206
I don't think it's bad to have Neanderthal DNA. Is it bad to have mongoose DNA?
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>>70944206
Being able to live in colder climates
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>>70944478
I see anti-white black people on social media use it as an insult as if having it makes us inferior genetically. Ironically most African Americans probably have Neanderthal DNA as well.
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History has shows that those peoples with Neanderthal DNA do better than those that don't have it. See: Africa, blacks.

This makes sense because Neanderthals were thought to be smarter and have larger brains than homo-sapiens.
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>>70944702
Yeah that's a fairly obvious trait. I saw an article somewhere saying that the DNA is linked to Crohns disease, type 2 diabetes, depression and a few other things/
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Advantage: not being black.
Disadvantage: no BBC.
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>>70944206

>being a literal Neanderthal cave beast

Lower than a nigger tbqh
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>>70945094
White guys can be hung though.
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>>70945094
>disadvantage
Not having to take a tv exam or pay the licence fee would be an advantage
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>>70944206
>1-4%
I thought humans shared 40% of their DNA with the noble banana, how to we only share 4% with the monkey+?
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>>70945157
How would you know? You've never met one.
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>>70944839
Who cares what uneducated and misinformed niggers think? Their capacity for reasoning and critical thought is diminished. They have to scratch the bottom of the barrel to find anything to be proud of their race for. The try to rewrite historical fact to make niggers a part of important world history. Their thoughts couldn't be more irrelevant.
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>>70944206

Go to Africa where some regions have 0%, and I think the range doesn't get much (if at all) above 1% until you hit the more racially mixed North coast and Northeast junction with Asia.

Compare that with Europe where 3% can be commonly expected. As I recall, they've even found pockets in East Europe getting into Asia where it might be in the 6% range.

Tell me how bad can that be?

The blue-eyed/blonde-hired genotype that arose out of the Caucuses a mere 2000-3000 years ago probably could never have expressed without Neanderthal genes. Even China out to Korea and Japan have up to 3%.

Again, I ask: all of Earth civilization and modern science and technology arose from populations with at least 15 and up to 4% or even 6%. How much civilization, innovation, science and technology has come from Africa?

I'd have to look it up, but I think the Andaman and Australian aboriginal populations are also near-zero or zero in Neanderthal genes, also.
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>>70945227
1-4% of of the 8% that makes us different from chimps
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>>70945227
Neanderthals weren't monkeys. Did you do Biology at school Ameritard?
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>>70945258

I've seen plenty on Jeremy Kyle.
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>>70945328
Australians have Denisovan instead of Neanderthal
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>>70945328
How can you be certain that the same mutation couldn't also happen to a pure homosapien?
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>>70945328
>Australian aboriginal have zero or near zero Neanderthal genes

False.
false
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>>70945389
I said "monkey+", Ahmed
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>>70945609
Pure homosapien is sub saharan african
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>>70945655
What does that mean, if anything? I don't understand how your brain works like you do mate so explain you mean properly.
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>>70945655
Plenty of Monkey+ in America, are you sure you want to compare them to Neanderthals?
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>>70945743
I'm aware of that, I'm saying how can you tell that they aren't able to have a mutation occur in their population whereby they gain blue eyes?
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>>70944839
Niggers use it as an insult because they are jealous
Only Caucasoids and Mongoloids got Neanderthal DNA and that's why they are tons of time more intelligent than niggers
And that's why they made 99% of the inventions and giant empires >>70944478
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>>70945961
They are, albino niggers look like an abomination though, they just look wrong
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>>70946016
Empires were forged through violence. Does that make us more savage?
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>>70946244
Not necessarily, just better at it
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>>70946244
We fought to bring order to chaos, they fight to cause chaos
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>>70945609

as said here >>70945743

Most of you guys in this topic need to spend some time on google and read through a few recent professional papers on anthropology and genetic mapping. The past 20 years have mapped things out with little room for error at this point. No one can rewrite 200 pages worth of published research into this topic.
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>>70946112
This is a naturally blonde Melanesian woman
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If you don't have neanderthal DNA, then you are a nigger.
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>>70945819
It means a step above a monkey
>>70945918
This guy gets it
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>>70946488
Looks ginger to me m8
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>>70946244
>Does that make us more savage?
A cyclic savagery has ruled civilization since it we began to organize ourselves around farms. After awhile each civilization becomes soft from an easy, organized life. A group of nomads who are more savage always invade and conquer. They in turn become soft from an easy life. And later another more savage group would conquer them. The cycle continues today.
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>>70946425
Nice diagram, wait so the English are closer than other Europeans to Asians, how does that work?
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>>70946391
This
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>>70946682
Do you not know how diagrams work?
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>>70946620
Look up Melanesian people on google you'll see other examples
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>>70946682
Where the name end up in relations to other branches is irrelevant, you need to follow the lineage
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>>70946488
its not natural they soak it in piss
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>>70946827
Oh wait it's Lapp/Southeast Asian
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>>70946682

Study the diagram more carefully. They aren't closer because they are next to them at the far right edge, In fact, just the opposite. They are more split off because of how far their divergence is to the left.

Technically, the entire four groups of Caucasoid, Northeast Asian, Arctic and Amerindian are about equally distant because they all come off the same junction.
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>>70946934
Nope it's real, soz Jose.
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>>70944206
Neanderthals had bigger brains so it explains why us "cavemen" did better in the long run. Fun Fact: Ashkenazi Jews have the highest percentage of Neanderthal DNA and the highest average IQ. Coincidence?
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>>70947167
I think I get it, so the line that disappears off the edge is our common ancestor?
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>>70947417
I thought East Asians did?
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neanderthal were cool, they didn't breed like rabbits like we used to did(and asians still do) and thats why they died.
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>>70947645
We are destined to end like them, history repeats itself

They were outbreeded by the filthy homo sapiens and miscegenation with it
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>>70944206
The presence of Neanderthal DNA in Europeans :* due to the systematic rape and oppression of Neanderthals by white people. The only Neanderthals to survive the genocide were able to pass as white due to their mothers being raped by whitey.
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>>70947839
its true, im sure they lived well while we were killing eachother and hunting other animals to extinction
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>>70947870
seriously how can americans be so dumb if they have so many smart people?
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Asians have the most Neanderthal DNA. And no, Finns don't have more than other Europeans.
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We inherited civilization from them. To be more neanderthal is to be more 'human' ironically.
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>>70948047
It's what happens when you import poor people from all over the world, some are smart and rise to the top, the rest fuck their cousins all day.
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>>70948052
>Finns
>Not asian
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>>70948052
source?

>>70948141
average pure homo sapiens=dindus in africa dancing around a bonfire
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>>70945094
>no BBC
>implying BBC isn't a myth pushed by da jooz
>implying white cock is smaller than BBC
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>>70948262
Every Neanderthal study.
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>>70947951
We?

But anon, we europeans ARE the neanderthals
or atleast the rapebabies of the homo invasion
Neanderthals were in europe first
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>>70947470

Yep. In the simplest way of looking at it, yep.

Consider that each junction represents a tribe that split and the two branches became isolated from each other. You can think of moving to the left as moving further back in time, but it's a bit more tangled than that. It's a measure of "distance" by similarity in genetic makeup.

Effectively that usually means time, but occasionally (due to mutation & crossbreeding) it just means a sudden divergence in genes.

The four groups I listed in my previous post likely are a branch of humanity that split off from all the other when they mixed with Neanderthals.

That hasn't been proven yet, but so far all the evidence seems to point that way. However, the Southeast Asian and the Pacific Islanders might also be grouped with "us" in the sense that the Neanderthal mixing may have taken place at that junction.

The thing about the Caucasoid groups is that they may have had further crossbreeding with Neanderthals after the original split. It wasn't a single event, it was several over 30,000 years.
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>>70944206
Don't be dense.
All Humans have Neanderthal dna.
And no, Africans are not Human.
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>>70945157
>neandethal had a bigger brain then humans
>somehow you consider them retarded

topkek, found the pseudo-archaeologist
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>>70947417
Is neanderthal DNA correlated with average IQ? If yes, that would almost close the IQ discussion. And if yes, source.
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Neanderthals weren't outsmarted. They were outbred.
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>>70948376
>pic
dat cranial capacity we missed out on. Shieet
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>>70947870
the map is wrong. neanderthals were mediterranean not european/white per se.
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>>70948457
yes, the more neanderthal dna the more smarter, probably because they had bigger brains and were antisocial, you can notice a lot of black people have really small heads compared to face and the rest of the body
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>>70948504
Neanderthals had no concept of time and were autistic
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>>70947532
Regarding IQ or caveman heritage?
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>>70948558
cro magnon were homo sapiens, descendants of the tall people from europe
>Being the oldest known modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) in Europe, the Cro-Magnons were from the outset linked to the well-known Lascaux cave paintings and the Aurignacian culture, the remains of which were well known from southern France and Germany.
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>>70948628
>caucasoid
>jew
REEEEEEEE
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>>70948628
Any scientific papers on this? I'd be nice if before testing someone's IQ you check how much Neanderthal DNA they have. In essence trying to predict there IQ score solely from their Neanderthal DNA percentage.
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The phrase Neanderthal DNA can be misleading. A more accurate description would be Neanderthal derived DNA. The function of most genes derived from Neanderthals is generally the same as normal homo sapien DNA. Just because the DNA came from Neanderthals and has an SNP here or there, doesn't always make the expression of protein or regulation of expression any different. Sure there may be examples of different functionality directly attributable to Neanderthal DNA, but 1-4% is greatly overstating the reality.
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>>70948640
I don't think you can prove autism from bones,
but I'm pretty sure they realized the seasons changed and day became night, ahmed

Homo sapiens invaders didn't invent the clock either
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>>70949027
Yes they did, first calendars were human made
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>tfw no neanderthal bros around today anymore

why even live?
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>>70948376

I'm out. Have other fun things in Real Life going on right now.

Have fun.
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>>70949111
Well you sure enlightened me m8
I thought they had been invented by horses
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>>70944206
Advantage: not being a nigger
Disadvantage: cuck genes
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>>70949116
He looks russian
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>>70948889
Reminder that the ideal aryan soldier used in nazi propaganda was part jew :^)
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>>70948467
Yeah, the reason there was not much if any DNA left from European Neanderthals is because migrants from the Middle East continously poured into Europe and outnumbered them. Most Eurasian Neanderthal admixture is of Middle Eastern origin and the others didn't survive.
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>>70944206

Maybe neanderthal were smarter than 'modern humans'... but were too kind and naive. "Everyone is equal" they thought.
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>>70944206

Neanderthal DNA is what separates Whites and Asians from blacks.
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>>70949116
Neanderthal phenotype obviously survived better in West Eurasians but the actual admixture survived better in East Asians. Goes to show that Mendelian traits is true.
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>>70944206
No. There are reasons to believe that they were smarter than us - we were just more social, adaptive, and out bred them.
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>>70944206
It makes people taller, more attractive, and smarter. So it probably has something to do with immune system genes that protect us from infectious diseases that existed in Eurasia but not in Africa. The stronger immune system gets you closer to your natural potential. The groups with high levels of Neanderthal DNA - Europeans and CJK countries - are also the smartest populations in the world.
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>>70944839
>2016 AD caring of what niggers say

Fuck those fucking apes. They think they had stargates and the poor fuckers can't build anything better than mudhuts in apefrica.
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>>70949734
Indios don't have neanderthaler blut either jose
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>>70944206
Obviously not considering Europe basically invented the modern world that all of the pure "african humans" now enjoy.
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>>70948850
>tfw 6'8 white man with family from southern France
Am I a cro magnon?
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>>70945090
Depression? Can we get some sauce on that? I'm intrigued.
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>>70944890
explain Eskimos, they have more Neanderthal DNA than everyone
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>>70946934
>argentinians literally whiter than spaniards
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>>70950082
>southern france
>white
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>>70949917
Yes they do, see >>70946425
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>>70950168
eskimos and amerindians emigrated from asia...
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>>70950272
but they have mountain jew runoff
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>>70950082
you're cro magnon/ neanderthal

basically ubermensch

but who's the most neanderthal DNA in europe?

der juden.
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>>70949917
>implying you're not a moor

I'm here on vacation you fucking queer.
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>>70949027
>>70949248
You tried.
2/10
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>>70949382
>>70949625
they where one sexy bunch
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>>70950439
show me actual proof of Ashkenazi jews having more neanderthal DNA on average instead of some pseudoscience pic
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>>70948965
Then use those snps as predictive variables in analysis of probability of occurrence of known coding sequences which have net positive effect on iq/g. See if the neanderthal DNA corresponds to presence of adaptive intelligence genes. Then do the same with iq/g directly. Here's a hint - second experiment has already been done. World history is the name, world map of iq is the outcome. https://iq-research.org/en/page/average-iq-by-country/gq-equatorial-guinea#
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>>70950168
it's not just neanderthal DNA that makes europeans, it's the cro magnon+neanderthal

it is thought that neanderthals were far more symbolic in thinking than cro magnons and homo sapiens

this is why the levant is full of religions

anyway, how do you guys think that they can tell how much of a neanderthal you are??

if humans and monkeys share 98% DNA, how would they be able to tell the difference, other than that 2% of DNA that's different?
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>>70950503
They must have at least looked fuckable or we wouldn't have their dna
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>>70950439
Physical traits don't necessarily correlate with higher admixture.

It's like with mulattos, sometimes one of them can look more like their European parent and the other only a lighter skinned congoid.

When Sapiens and Neanderthal mixed some of those probably retain more a Sapiens look and others picked up more Neanderthal traits. As time went on and we mixed around, East Asians ended up with 1% more Neanderthal admixture but West Eurasians with more physical traits of Neanderthals.
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Neanderthals are the only thing separating us from njggers
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>>70950495
>>70950272

The butthurt fucking spics :^)
Whatcha gonna do little brown man
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3.1% masterrace checking in.
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>>70947870
Wow, this is the most retarded thing I've seen from occupoop democucks, and that is really saying something.
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>>70950310
Family left back in the 1600's or so. And not southern France I guess that was a bad description, from southernmost border of France/Germany
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>>70950605
I can't find it but the people who take this dna test it also shows your neanderthal percentage, and the ones with the ashkenazi regularly are much higher in neanderthal percentile than the northern euros
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>>70951039
kill yourself senpai
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>>70950134
http://www.abroadintheyard.com/20-physical-traits-inherited-from-neanderthal/
Could be bullshit idk
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>>70951001
Elsas Lothringen is rightful german clay
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There is this nice article talking about Jews and their Neanderthal DNA. It's a pretty good read.
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>>70944839
>Ironically most African Americans probably have Neanderthal DNA as well.
Obviously, the American negro population is in actuality made up of mulattos/quadroons/octaroons and what have you.
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East Asians and South Asians have the most Neanderthal DNA. Of all the non-African humans, Europeans have the least Neanderthal DNA.
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>>70951236
>forgot link
https://www.darkmoon.me/2014/they-are-not-like-us-by-jack-harper/
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>>70950872
What area of Spain are you in? Ever been to Minorca?
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>>70951001
The limey was just being cheeky as the South of France is practically a caliphate nowadays.
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>>70951260
>no source
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>>70951320
Once, I'm catalan
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That explains the teeth
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>>70951039
I don't know what it is but I'm really not attracted to women with protruding brow ridges
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>>70948262

Pretty much. I would love to see neanderthal version of /pol/ back in the day.

It's disparaging to think we'll probably never discover how things like systems of government or even burial of the dead truly got started.

There's also a really good chance they spurred a level of domestication in humans since they likely only tolerated the least shittiest.
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I'm black and I have a micro penis. How fucked am I?
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>>70951213
Delete this
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>>70951439

http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2015/02/why-do-east-asians-have-more-neandertal.html

>Recent analyses have found that a substantial amount of the Neandertal genome persists in the genomes of contemporary non-African individuals. East Asians have, on average, higher levels of Neandertal ancestry than do Europeans, which might be due to differences in the efficiency of purifying selection, an additional pulse of introgression into East Asians, or other unexplored scenarios.

http://www.cell.com/ajhg/abstract/S0002-9297(15)00008-7

here is a blog article because I know that Americans have bad reading comprehension and this will dumb it down for you

http://www.ibtimes.com/neanderthal-dna-race-asians-have-closer-link-multiple-breeding-events-studies-say-1822230
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>>70950439
So you can pretty much tell when people have a higher than normal %. Stockier, big nose and ears, protruding brow ridges, weak chins and generally more ugly
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>>70951851
Southern France is rightful aquitanian clay
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>blog
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>>70950793
Probably. Then again, some could've been drunk.
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>>70951865
I don't think Middle Easterners have more than Europeans. Australoids certainly don't have more since the extra-Sapiens is mostly Denisovan.
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>>70951039
>that abstract kind of feel when Hungary is marked as ashkenazi
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>>70950793
m8, there are half-abbos and welsh are known to fuck sheep.
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>>70951946
pls stop
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>>70952303
I guess some men just have literally no standards
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>>70951039
Holly Brockwell? seriously?
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>>70952390
Flanders is rightful Dutch clay
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>>70952489
I agree with this one
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>>70952654
paris is rightful uganda clay
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>>70952654
Brittany is rightful Breton clay
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>>70952777
Skyrim belongs to the nords
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>>70953398
Praise the nine
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>>70947870

So... I'm guessing we are space invaders or stuff?
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>>70953535
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>>70951141
it's not me lol that's just the best I can find

>>70951565
really?

I love a tall girl with a supraorbital ridge.

face it, phamiglia, the perfect combo is maximum neanderthal/ cro magnon mixing.

supraorital ridges make them look like they'd make manly children/ with a stronger will
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>>70952174
yea but also we must take into account that the denisovan dna is obviously more prevalent with more dominant traits, so even though these native americans and asians have more neanderthal DNA, they perhaps don't show it as much because the asian dna is more dominant
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>>70944206
Neanderthals where not objectively inferior to homo sapiens. They had some better features and those where absorbed into the homo sapien population through introgression creating the modern admixture. Your not for example 2% neanderthal in totally random areas,that 2% is concentrated in some very specific genes. Neanderthals had a different type of brain to homo sapiens,designed for different types of problems. Introgression could allow some of these cognitive features to enhance the homo sapiens skill set and create a more versatile creature.
TL;DR admixture isn't like mixing paint(when done over long,long time),neanderthal admixture could only have been a good thing
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>>70953677
Yeah that's the plus side with breeding with a cavewoman, your kids will probably be alpha. Still not attractive to me though, prefer more effeminate women.
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PROVES Y'ALL KRAKKKAS WUZ LIVIN IN DEM CAVES AND SHIETT
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>>70944206

Franking the Neanderthal hypothasis is so new (less then 10 years) there is a lot we really don't know yet about how much mixing actually took place. Admixture of 1-4% is based on a tiny sample. I reserve judgment until I know a lot more, but the fact blacks do not have this defined admixture, and white and Asians do, it is very clearly a good thing.
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>>70954014
>>70956516

Neanderthals were fucked up primitive and inbred, their DNA is objectively a bad thing. White and Asian people are not simply "Negro + Neanderthal" the first humans who left Africa were totally different than Negros and had their fitness reduced by breeding with Neanderthals and Denisovans.

>However, using previously published estimates of inbreeding in Neanderthals, and of the distribution of fitness effects from human protein coding genes, we show that the average Neanderthal would have had at least 40% lower fitness than the average human due to higher levels of inbreeding and an increased mutational load, regardless of the dominance coefficients of new mutations. Using simulations, we show that under the assumption of additive dominance effects, early Neanderthal/human hybrids would have experienced strong negative selection, though not so strong that it would prevent Neanderthal DNA from entering the human population.

https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2015/11/03/degenerate-neanderthals/

http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/10/31/030387

http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/10/30/030148
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>>70953535
Ayy we wuz space invaders n' shit.
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>>70944206
23ndme said I have 3% Neanderthal DNA and i'm sexy as fuck so yeah.
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>>70944206
SAUCE IT FAGGOT
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Here is my question. Why is like every white trait a recessive gene? What kind of shit is that.

Mother nature is on the jews side for our genocide.
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>>70951686
Not at all I'm guessing?
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