Prove to me that homosexuality isn't a choice and is natural?
Also how is homosexuality not a mental illness?
>>70937744
>implying I care what you think
Some people have tried to "cure" their homosexuality through prayer and will.
They still admited they were homosexual.
After years of trying and self-punishment they couldn't fight it.
There is no such as "fighting the gay away" either you are gay, or you aren't.
how's christina doing these days? has she accepted blue arms into the faith or is it still her bearbug?
>>70938045
He thinks that if he meditates hard enough his balls will turn into ovaries.
>>70938551
yeah there are worse things he could be doing for himself. probably a better use of his time than pokeyman or sanic.
>>70937744
>homosexuality is a mental illness
>homosexuality is a choice
PICK ONE FAGGOT
>"Muh religion"
Homosexuality isn't a mental illness, it's a choice. The only people who think it is are the same uneducated cucks who say shit like
>"B-but animals don't do it-it's not natural!"
When animals can be gay too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
>>70939227
>animals do it
>it must be natural
>>70939227
"Homosexual behavior"
But there are no known mammal individuals that are strictly homosexual.
>>70939553
Yeah my bad, forgot they're animals that are philosophers that question their own existence, I also forgot that they're fully aware of the known world as well. Fucking idiot
>>70938822
Pretty much.
What counts as "natural"? A trait you're born with? Lots of mental illnesses are a quick of birth and genetics.
https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity
http://www.everydayhealth.com/longevity/can-promiscuity-threaten-longevity.aspx
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/101126
>homosexuals life expectancy is 8-20 years less then that of hetero's
>>70939387
I really don't care what they do in private.
I'm just sick of the excuses they make to justify it and push their propaganda.
Anyone have the autographed pic of chris chan telling the guy to stay straight? I only have this one.
>>70937744
>Also how is homosexuality not a mental illness?
Why gays are gay.
tl;dr Brain splice in the womb.
>>70939672
Obviously not, does that have to be a requirement? how does that have any effect on if it is a choice or not? for example when you're deciding whether or not to jack off to loli or mlp porn tonight. Just because not every other human being doesn't do the same, doesn't mean it isn't a choice.
>>70939959
So it's a birth defect then?
>>70937744
If your life is led by hedonism first, and if you don't want to pass your genes on then you're not normal.
If you think you're special enough to impede on those who are normal by pushing for laws and regulations, don't expect to be treated better in the end. The government cannot and should not be responsible for changing social opinion.
>>70938045
He's begging for money again
It's a fetish.
Good luck banning fetishes.
>>70940234
I don't want to ban anything.
>>70937744
Same-sex sexual/affectionate attraction is natural and this is easily proven because it's an easily observable behavior in many animals and mammals.
Having your whole life revolve around this attraction and making it an exclusive attraction, however, is not natural in the slightest.
So being attracted to the same sex is natural, but being "gay" is definitely not.
Jesus Chirst who cares? What's that Jesus, not even you care?
Mental illness or not, they're not hurting anyone and they're too small a percentage to bring about the fucking death of...whatever the hell it is you think they're bringing the death of.
Just let them shag in peace, the worst crime they ever commited were those goddamn parades, and let's face it, everyone who's ever celebrated thanksgiving has commited that crime
Holy shizznit its AIDS Skrillex!
>>70937744
prove to me kikes need to be allowed to live
>>70940058
So how is natural when it doesn't appear in any other mammals?
>>70937744
>Also how is homosexuality not a mental illness?
Back in the 70s faggots kikes and other leftist activists harassed the APA to drop faggotry from the DSM
Faggots are abominations the repulsive sodomites deserve to be ostracised from society and left to rot
>>70940487
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
>>70940605
>sodomites
kike detected
>>70940382
Gays have sued in the United States for discrimination many times. Two big cases that come to mind are a bakery, and a couple who hosted weddings in their private art gallery. Both denied gays service citing their religious beliefs. Both cases were won by the fags and they faced financial ruin afterwards.
>>70940689
Fuck off faggot
>>70940638
Hate when gay people use this as proof that its 'normal.' It just makes me see it as an animalistic act ultimately.
>>70939926
>Should be Encourage Fullest And More Fullest
Impress, very nice.
>>70940638
But has there ever been a single mammal specimen that has shown to be strictly homosexual?
>>70937744
can there ever be one homosexual in a tribe, no he needs a partner and so encourages this action, it's a trend and a habbit that is dangerous if it gets to everyone before the ideal of woman sets in deeper.
>>70937744
There're should be receipts made by doctors for every sick which prove that a gay with such bill is a natural gay, in other cases they should be treated like drug addicts.
>>70940747
good. americans use the cloak of religious freedom far to liberally. one of these days you'll be able to shoot someone on the street and say your religion requires you to kill someone once a week. your religious freedom can't infringe on the civil freedoms of others, incuding eating some disgusting sugar
>>70941036
No you fucking dirty mudblood croat. Their reason is religious. However it ultimately it comes down to the fact that a business has the right to deny service to anyone they want to for whatever reason. They should not be sued for exercising their rights. Laws and rights first, reasoning second.
Of course killing someone will always be illegal, no matter the reasoning.
Go fuck yourself. And BTW, Serbia is better they have Tupac.
>>70940689
>Anglo shill getting defensive about buttfucking
Not that surprising actually
>>70937744
Why do you care?
>>70937744
If we're gonna have 10 gay threads every single day can we at least try to progress the conversation along a little? Buzzwords like choice and natural are not helping either side.
>>70941459
they have a right to deny business to any individual they want to, not to an entire section of the population which is proof of discrimination. for which you get sued. and lose your shitty cake business
>homosexuality is found in nature so that means it's normal
I don't get this logic. Rape is found in nature too but that's doesn't make it normal
>>70941952
actually it does, it just doesn't make it socially exceptable in non-muslim countries
>>70941735
What is wrong with you? Do you not eat cake in Croatia?
Denial of service is done on an individual basis. There isn't only one cake bakery in the United States - the faggots can go to a different one. A private business can do whatever the fuck it wants. They only damage they are doing is to themselves - lack of profit from all the gay cakes they could be making.
Gays are simply butthurt someone doesn't accept them. They are mentally ill and validation seekers at heart.
Something like 97% of all homosexuals were molested as a child, just put two and two together.
Homosexual behavior is clearly a side effect of the emotional trauma caused by chester the molester getting his diddle on.
>>70942233
>Denial of service is done on an individual basis
You're making my point. However, if you deny an individual service and that individual sues, citing a discriminatory reason like "he was gay/black/whatever-the-fuck" you're gonna lose the lawsuit.
but these businesses all proudly fuck themselves over by openly admitting discrimination citing religious freedom. except religious freedom doesn't extend to discrimination. if you have a problem with this, write your congressman to change your own laws
also sweets are disgusting, eat meat like a real man you american dandy
>be me
>try to turn myself gay for science
>watch gay porn and try to jack off
>disgusted
If it's a choice then why would people make it, and if some people are more "willing" to make that "choice" doesn't that mean it's natural to begin with because they feel differently towards it?
>>70937744
Homosexuality is only a choice if everyone, repeat everyone, is naturally attracted to the same sex and only fags decide to act on it.
Make your decision. I get hard when my boyfriend fucks me, I get hard just thinking about his cock and being dominated. It's an involuntary response. Do I choose to act upon it? Sure, I also find women attractive and could be happy and straight too, and have been, but being a fag is fun too.
If it's just a choice then you must admit all people have the urges to be with the same sex too, but ignore them.
>>70942608
Yeah no shit they'll lose. I applaud them for not backing down and giving in either.
Do you honestly believe they are wanting to vehemently discriminate? No one has ever used their Christianity to deny service to black people, the disabled, homeless, etc. This is a very specific case involving marriage.
Anyway, we can eat both meat and sweets because we're not poor. I'm cooking chicken on the grill tonight and I'm gonna finish it off with a big GAY cake.
They way I see they just like smokers and meth users. Same people different vice. It's funny how most people try smoking but quit shortly after, same goes for people who do gay shit. The left is just using them for votes.
>>70937744
If homosexuality was a choice, you would be able to choose to like men / women freely.
>>70943220
>marriage
oh fuck you, you're now making me mad. yes, let's all pretend marriage is some sacred institution. then let's get divorced. and if we're catholic, we'll have an annulment so we aren't REALLY divorced, the marriage just never happened. isn't that convenient? and let's just pretend like the institution didn't start as a fucking busniness deal where a father would get a dowry for a fine piece of ass, it's all sacred. fuck your fake hypocritical morality, i'd rather endure>>70942908this guy's disgusting cock sucjing stories than your bullshit
>>70937744
>Chris chan gif
REALLY OP?!, I was just about to eat, well fuck it I didn't need to eat anyway
>>70943538
That guy is a degenerate and is making his decision based on how good sex feels. Marriage isn't about love and sex isn't about feeling good. I'll leave it at that and let you figure it out. Peace
>>70937744
What if I told you homosexuality is not a choice because it is a fetish.
Naturally over billions of years of evolution humans and animals have been breed to breed, it is in their instincts to mate. There is no denying that homosexuality would simply be weeded out through natural selection and having a genetic mutation being so common for thousands of years would also just be dumb to believe. It is not natural or genetics.
However, fetishes are a result of life experiences, trauma, and environment. They cause things to just tick in people's brains regardless of what they want or what is best for them.
It is not a choice nor it is a mental illness. It is a psychological thing.
>>70940853
I don't think you know what 'normal' means
>>70937744
If being gay is something people are simply born with, then being nigger is incurable, and we have to admit that there are different people that have to be treated differently. So Nogs should be treated like nogs and not like other people.
>>70939959
Here's the thing. Many people are more than willing to believe it's the result of mutation or mental illness, the problem is how vehemently opposed the gay community is to such an idea.
>>70937949
Citation needed
Also, relying on testimony people who have every reason to lie-- hurrr I tried u guise! U giise! Srsly I tried!
>>70939881
smoking is mental illness by that logic
>>70944426
dude, if you have a problem with gays, have a problem with gays. but please, if you now start supporting Conversion Therapy as "scientific" this thread will become an actual farce.
I'm Trans and it probably all related to my borderline personality disorder. No self esteem and try desperately to please people.
>>70944548
>smoking is a mental illness by that logic
it is
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/comorbidity-addiction-other-mental-illnesses/drug-addiction-mental-illness
>>70944974
>try desperately to please people
How about some pics of yourself, faggot?
>>70944980
>addiction is a mental illness
unbelievable. this is equally as stupid as the "Alcoholism is a disease" crap. what blows my mind is that actual professionals write this kind of crap
>>70945309
they also claim that global warming is 99.999% true and that all evidence that proves otherwise is a mis-calc
Science has been dead after the cold war
>>70945261
>>70943793
>you guys i totally don't enjoy being married to and fucking the girl i love and find attractive
>im a martyr ok
>>70937744
>Prove to me that homosexuality isn't a choice
The "choice" argument comes from christfags making the difference between who you're attracted to (which they admit isn't a choice) and who you actually have sex with (which is obviously a choice if you're not getting raped) so they can still blame gays for choosing to "sin" rather than be celibate and not cast any blame on God for creating them that way and then fucking retards in the right think what they're saying is you choose who you're turned on by somehow but only if you're gay somehow.
>and is natural?
There's lots of gay animals and it has evolutionary benefits such as population control, gay couples being available to raise orphaned children of the tribe, leaving feminine gay men at the camp while the other men are out hunting who can still physically defend it from attack or a gay couple being fine with going on long hunting trips since they wouldn't miss their mates back at camp like straight hunters would since they can bring them with them.
>Also how is homosexuality not a mental illness?
Leading research points towards homosexuality an transexuality being caused by hormone imbalances the fetus is exposed to in the womb which is why you get phenomena like it being more likely a man is gay the more older brothers he has because his mothers womb gets less efficient at producing the right hormones each time, so it's actually literally a birth defect lmao. Of course this triggers right wingers who are still regurgitating stupid religious arguments AND liberals who wouldn't want a gay vaccine to be developed which is theoretically possible.
>>70945707
inb4 6'3 220lbs
>>70937744
>Natural
You're on a magic typing box, communicating with others at the speed of light half-way the word. We threw out "natural" decades ago.
If you still want "natural", go be Amish you dumbfuck.
It might be a mental illness but I don't want to heal
>>70945707
wow ur a qt, waaay too much makeup tho, you disgustng cancuck
>>70946651
what's really strange to me personally though is why straight males hate gays at all since
1-they're not your competition in procuring females
2-most are effeminate and not a physical threat
literally the only reason to hate gay people is religious wankery. and religion is fine by me, i don't think religion is stupid. what IS stupid is thinking a supreme being who creaed the universe would give one iota of a fuck about some guy drilling another guy's anus because an old poorly edited book says so
>>70946795
>>70937744
First prove to us that these arguments aren't originating from christfags.
