Does Libertarianism inevitably lead to Fascism /pol/?
>>70934410
He seems to be swallowing as many red pills as he can right now
To be honest though, for libertarianism to work you do need a White society.
No.
>>70934410
>for libertarianism to work you do need a White society.
You mean socialism
If dindus don't want to work in a libertarian society they starve
>>70934410
>>70934410
Only in the sense that Libertarianism can only work in a small homogeneous nation with secure borders.
I do not think, however, that there is anything inevitable about a political evolution from libertarianism to fascism.
Fascism is what happens to libertarians when they lose hope.
>>70934410
Unchecked? Yes.
Checked? No.
Actively being weakened? No, anarchy literally ensues.
This is all given that foreign influence/intervention/invasion are kept to a minimum.
>>70934770
>>70934754
>>70934719
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>>70934528
Not an argument.
>>70934719
The more non-whites you have the more likely those that don't work and are starving will riot and steal from those that do
You need a White society that doesn't naturally grave government gibs to keep the system healthy
>>70934829
What are you looking for? I posted, >>70934754
>>70934410
Stefan BTFO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcv3OJIcuY
How will ancap degenerates recover?
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>>70934410
From a libertarian perspective, both communism and fascism are basically the same thing, that is, authoritarian collectivism.
>>70934410
>every criticism presented about libertarianism degenerating or being conquered by fascists/monarchs will be exactly the same as Aristotle's criticisms of democracy
>>70935143
this pic is going in the file
I still don't really understand the libertarian position to do away with ALL forms of government.
I understand bringing government down to the state and even town level, but I just can't comprehend getting rid of even that. Wouldn't that lead to total anarchy?
>>70936135
Miniarchists are also libertarian.
>>70936087
It's my ms paint OC
>>70936366
So should I just take libertarians at their word when they say they want to "get rid of government" and not just reduce the size of government?
>>70934410
Well nothing's inevitable. But libertarianism is unstable.
>>70934528
Nationalist libertarianism is the way to go. The thing is, some libertarians, especially the weirdo left leaning ones, who claim to be ancestors to the founding fathers, or classic liberals, forget they were nationalist. Its why the articles of confederation didn't work.
The federal govt is to be only as strong as needed to counteract foreign interests and mediate interstate problems; but it can never be an open border free for all. That will only work if the whole world were libertarian.
>>70936135
>Libertarians
>All ancaps
>>70935681
One is collectivism to defend against foreign powers, one is collectivism for some social economic engineered bullshit.
>>70934410
Damn I hate this retard. Mostly because he wants to talk about from the useless philosophy side of things without knowing how shit really works. Hear him talk about money creation and the like is completely laughable.
Reminder that the only reasonable Libertarianism is giving power to the states, not the feds
From there we can individually decide on if we want weak or strong state governments
>>70936751
Is this meant to be some kind of argument?
The powerful always prey on the weak. There's no way that isn't going to get more extreme if you depower a government from monopolising force and the mandate to control and rule.
The weak - and outsiders - will always be demonised and exloited...which is the route to Fascism.
>>70934410
No.
I am convinced that libertarianism is a phase that eventually gives into pragmatic thinking into something more radical, but that isn't necessary fascism.
Seen plenty of An-Caps go full communist or Bern
>>70936587
/thread
Actual libertarianism in a democracy would not lead to fascism, it would probably just lead to liberalism because poor people women and niggers would vote themselves free gibs.
Anarchy is what always leads to fascism.
DO
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>>70936842
Obviously it isn't. Since it is a fact that listening Monyneux talking about economics (real world economy policies rather than the bullshit libertarian on paper economics or free market on paper economics) is laughable.
>>70937038
As a fan of Molyneux I find this hilarious
>>70937108
Still not an argument.
Any specific economic argument of Stefan's you'd care to refute?
UNCOMMON
>>70936575
>The thing is, some libertarians, especially the weirdo left leaning ones, who claim to be ancestors to the founding fathers, or classic liberals, forget they were nationalist
Right, which is why they forced people of many different cultures and nations into a collective, you fucking retard. Federalism is the opposite of nationalism. Federalism is telling you to work for the man living hundreds of miles away from you, who doesn't share you culture, your religion, or maybe even your language.
Go tell the southern nationalists about how great federalism is.
