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Daily reminder that if you're westener and support capitalism, you're part of the problem
you will be purged soon enough
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>>70921030

Anyways, dont worry you commie scum, we support National Socialism, and it will be you who is purged.
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Why Are We Nationalists?

We are nationalists because we see the nation as the only way to bring all the forces of the nation together to preserve and improve our existence and the conditions under which we live.

The nation is the organic union of a people to protect its life. To be national is to affirm this union in word and deed. To be national has nothing to do with a form of government or a symbol. It is an affirmation of things, not forms. Forms can change, their content remains. If form and content agree, then the nationalist affirms both. If they conflict, the nationalist fights for the content and against the form. One may not put the symbol above the content. If that happens, the battle is on the wrong field and one’s strength is lost in formalism. The real aim of nationalism, the nation, is lost.

That is how things are today in Germany. Nationalism has turned into bourgeois patriotism and its defenders are battling windmills. One says Germany and means the monarchy. Another proclaims freedom and means Black-White-Red [the colors of the German flag]. Would our situation today be any different if we replaced the republic with a monarchy and flew the black-white-red flag? The colony would have different wallpaper, but its nature, its content, would stay the same. Indeed, things would be even worse, for a facade that conceals the facts dissipates the forces today fighting against slavery.
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>>70921119
Bourgeois patriotism is the privilege of a class. It is the real reason for its decline. When 30 million are for something and 30 million are against it, things balance out and nothing happens. That is how things are with us. We are the world’s Pariah not because we do not have the courage to resist, but rather because out entire national energy is wasted in eternal and unproductive squabbling between the right and the left. Our way only goes downward, and today one can already predict when we will fall into the abyss.

Nationalism is more wide-reaching than internationalism. It sees things as they are. Only he who respects himself can respect others. If as a German nationalist I affirm Germany, how can I hold it against a French nationalist who affirms France? Only when these affirmations conflict in vital ways will there be a power-political struggle. Internationalism cannot undo this reality. Its attempts at proof fail completely. And even when the facts seem to have some validity, nature, blood, the will to life, and the struggle for existence on this hard earth prove the falsity of fine theories.

The sin of bourgeois patriotism was to confound a certain economic form with the national. It connected two things that are entirely different. Forms of the economy, however firm they may seem, are changeable. The national is eternal. If I mix the eternal and the temporal, the eternal will necessarily collapse when the temporal collapses. This was the real cause for the collapse of liberal society. It was rooted not in the eternal, but in the temporal, and when the temporal declined it took the eternal down with it. Today it is only an excuse for a system that brings growing economic misery. That is the only reason why international Jewry organizes the battle of the proletarian forces against both powers, the economy and the nation, and defeat them.
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>>70921070
watch out, you get arrested for supporting fascist scum
shoo shoo
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Get back in line.
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>>70921134
From this understanding, the young nationalism draws its absolute demand. The faith in the nation is a matter for everyone, never a group, a class or an economic clique. The eternal must be distinguished from the temporal. Maintaining a rotten economic system has nothing to do with nationalism, which is an affirmation of the Fatherland. I can love Germany and hate capitalism. Not only can I, I must. Only the annihilation of a system of exploitation carries with it the core of the rebirth of our people.

We are nationalists because as Germans, we love Germany. Because we love Germany, we want to preserve it and fight against those who would destroy it. If a Communist shouts “Down with nationalism!”, he means the hypocritical bourgeois patriotism that sees the economy only as a system of slavery. If we make clear to the man of the left that nationalism and capitalism, that is the affirmation of the Fatherland and the misuse of its resources, have nothing to do with each other, indeed that they go together like fire and water, then even as a socialist he will come to affirm the nation, which he will want to conquer.

That is our real task as National Socialists. We were the first to recognize the connections, and the first to begin the struggle. Because we are socialists we have felt the deepest blessings of the nation, and because we are nationalists we want to promote socialist justice in a new Germany.

A young fatherland will rise when the socialist front is firm.

Socialism will become reality when the Fatherland is free.
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>>70921144
Why Are We Socialists?

We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism’s nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.
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>>70921203
The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of wages, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day — though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform — but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the fatherland. The bourgeoisie does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeoisie and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.
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>>70921144
>Finnish
>Supporting Communism

Guys, you missed one, back to the wall.
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We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers’ state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.

Socialism is possible only in a state that is united domestically and free internationally. The bourgeoisie and Marxism are responsible for failing to reach both goals, domestic unity and international freedom. No matter how national and social these two forces present themselves, they are the sworn enemies of a socialist national state.

We must therefore break both groups politically. The lines of German socialism are sharp, and our path is clear.

We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism!

We are against Marxism, but for true socialism!

We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature!

We are for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party!
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Why a Workers’ Party?

Work is not mankind’s curse, but his blessing. A man becomes a man through labor. It elevates him, makes him great and aware, raises him above all other creatures. It is in the deepest sense creative, productive, and culture-producing. Without labor, no food. Without food, no life.

The idea that the dirtier one’s hands get, the more degrading the work, is a Jewish, not a German, idea. As in every other area, the German first asks how, then what. It is less a question of the position I fill, and more a question of how well I do the duty that God has given me.

We call ourselves a workers’ party because we want to rescue the word work from its current definition and give it back its original meaning. Anyone who creates value is a creator, that is, a worker. We refuse to distinguish kinds of work. Our only standard is whether the work serves the whole, or at least does not harm it, or if it is harmful. Work is service. If it works against the general welfare, then it is treason against the fatherland.

Marxist nonsense claimed to free labor, yet it degraded the work of its members and saw it as a curse and disgrace. It can hardly be our goal to abolish labor, but rather to give new meaning and content. The worker in a capitalist state — and that is his deepest misfortune — is no longer a living human being, a creator, a maker.
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He has become a machine. A number, a cog in the machine without sense or understanding. He is alienated from what he produces. Labor is for him only a way to survive, not a path to higher blessings, not a joy, not something in which to take pride, or satisfaction, or encouragement, or a way to build character.

We are a workers’ party because we see in the coming battle between finance and labor the beginning and the end of the structure of the twentieth century. We are on the side of labor and against finance. Money is the measuring rod of liberalism, work and accomplishment that of the socialist state. The liberal asks: What are you? The socialist asks: Who are you? Worlds lie between.

We do not want to make everyone the same. Nor do we want levels in the population, high and low, above and below. The aristocracy of the coming state will be determined not by possessions or money, but only on the quality of one’s accomplishments. One earns merit through service. Men are distinguished by the results of their labor. That is the sure sign of the character and value of a person. The value of labor under socialism will be determined by its value to the state, to the whole community. Labor means creating value, not haggling over things. The soldier is a worker when he bears the sword to protect the national economy. The statesman also is a worker when he gives the nation a form and a will that help it to produce what it needs for life and freedom.
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>>70921149
So, how did that winter war end? Was it a nice victory?
oh yeah...You lost
https://youtu.be/3oXNs5sP_T4
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>>70921352
A furrowed brow is as much a sign of labor as a powerful fist. A white collar worker should not be ashamed to claim with pride that of which the manual laborer boasts: labor. The relations between these two groups determine their mutual fate. Neither can survive without the other, for both are members of an organism that they must together maintain if they are to defend and expand their right to exist.

We call ourselves a workers’ party because we want to free labor from the chains of capitalism and Marxism. In battling for Germany’s future, we freely admit to it, and accept the odium from the liberal bourgeoisie that results. We know that we will succeed in bringing new blessings out of their curses.

God gave the nations territory to grow grain. The seed becomes grain and the grain becomes bread. The middleman of it all is labor.

He who despises labor but accepts its benefits is a hypocrite.
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>>70921375
That is the deepest meaning of our movement: it gives things back their original significance, unconcerned that today they may be in danger of sinking into the swamp of a collapsing worldview.

He who creates value works, and is a worker. A movement that wants to free labor is a workers’ party.

Therefore we National Socialists call ourselves a worker’s party.

When our victorious flags fly before us, we sing:

“We are the army of the swastika,
Raise high the red flags!
We want to clear the way to freedom
For German Labor!”
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>Why Do We Oppose the Jews?

We oppose the Jews because we are defending the freedom of the German people. The Jew is the cause and beneficiary of our slavery He has misused the social misery of the broad masses to deepen the dreadful split between the right and left of our people, to divide Germany into two halves thereby concealing the true reason for the loss of the Great War and falsifying the nature of the revolution.

The Jew has no interest in solving the German question. He cannot have such an interest. He depends on it remaining unsolved. If the German people formed a united community and won back its freedom, there would be no place any longer for the Jew. His hand is strongest when a people lives in domestic and international slavery, not when it is free, industrious, self-aware and determined. The Jew caused our problems, and lives from them.

That is why we oppose the Jew as nationalists and as socialists. He has ruined our race, corrupted our morals, hollowed out our customs and broken our strength. We owe it to him that we today are the Pariah of the world. He was the leper among as long as we were German. When we forgot our German nature, he triumphed over us and our future.
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>>70921367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBlWfpK0Nb0
Back to the grave with you
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>>70921367
>this is what reddie scum believes
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>The Jew is the plastic demon of decomposition. Where he finds filth and decay, he surfaces and begins his butcher’s work among the nations. He hides behind a mask and presents himself as a friend to his victims, and before they know it he has broken their neck.

>The Jew is uncreative. He produces nothing, he only haggles with products. With rags, clothing, pictures, jewels, grain, stocks, cures, peoples and states. He has somehow stolen everything he deals in. When he attacks a state he is a revolutionary. As soon as he holds power, he preaches peace and order so that he can devour his conquests in comfort.

>What does anti-Semitism have to do with socialism? I would put the question this way: What does the Jew have to do with socialism? Socialism has to do with labor. When did one ever see him working instead of plundering, stealing and living from the sweat of others? As socialists we are opponents of the Jews because we see in the Hebrews the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation’s goods.

What does anti-Semitism have to do with nationalism? I would put the question this way: What does the Jew have to do with nationalism? Nationalism has to do with blood and race. The Jew is the enemy and destroyer of the purity of blood, the conscious destroyer of our race. As nationalists we oppose the Jews because we see the Hebrews as the eternal enemy of our national honor and of our national freedom.
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But the Jew, after all, is also a human being. Certainly, none of us doubts that. We only doubt that he is a decent human being. He does not get along with us. He lives by other laws than we do. The fact that he is a human being is not sufficient reason for us to allow him to subject us in inhumane ways. He may be a human being — but what kind of a human being is he! If someone slaps your mother in the face, do you say: “Thank you! He is after all a human being!” That is not a human being, it is a monster. Yet how much worse has the Jew done to our mother Germany, and is still doing today!

There are also white Jews. True, there are scoundrels among us, even though they are Germans, who act in immoral ways against their own racial and blood comrades. But why do we call them white Jews? You use the term to describe something inferior and contemptible. Just as we do. Why do you ask us why we oppose the Jews when you without knowing it are one too?

Anti-Semitism is not Christian. That means that it is Christian to allow the Jews to go on as they are, stripping the skin from our bodies and mocking us. To be a Christian means to love one’s neighbor as oneself! My neighbor is my racial and blood brother. If I love him, I have to hate his enemies. He who thinks German must despise the Jews. The one requires the other.
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The greatest achievements of the Jews was to put the fascists against the communists
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>>70921533
Christ himself saw that love did not always work. When he found the moneychangers in the temple, he did not say: “Children, love one another!” He took up a whip and drove them out.

We oppose the Jews because we affirm the German people. The Jew is our greatest misfortune.

It is not true that we eat Jews for breakfast.

It is true that slowly but surely, he is stealing all that we have.

Things would be different if we behaved as Germans.
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This must be one of those cucked Finns that wanted to suck Soviet cock during the cold war.
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>>70921665
We still have them
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>>70921665
Nope, grandparents and parents were Soviet :^)
I'm merely studying here
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>>70921310
work sets you free
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Take a seat my soulless friend
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>>70922314
you got it wrong
if you support capitalism you have no soul
but me, as a communist, have as soul
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"[T]he thinking person, by intellect usually left-wing but by temperament often right-wing, hovers at the gate of the Socialist fold. He is no doubt aware that he ought to be a Socialist. But he observes first the dullness of individual Socialists, then the apparent flabbiness of Socialist ideals, and veers away."
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"The only thing for which we can combine is the underlying ideal of Socialism; justice and liberty. But it is hardly strong enough to call this ideal ‘underlying’. It is almost completely forgotten. It has been buried beneath layer after layer of doctrinaire priggishness, party squabbles, and half-baked ‘progressivism’ until it is like a diamond hidden under a mountain of dung."
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"We have reached a stage when the very word ‘Socialism’ calls up, on the one hand, a picture of aeroplanes, tractors, and huge glittering factories of glass and concrete; on the other, a picture of vegetarians with wilting beards, of Bolshevik commissars (half gangster, half gramophone), of earnest ladies in sandals, shock-headed Marxists chewing polysyllables, escaped Quakers, birth-control fanatics, and Labour Party backstairs-crawlers. Socialism, at least in this island, does not smell any longer of revolution and the overthrow of tyrants; it smells of crankishness, machine-worship, and the stupid cult of Russia. Unless you can remove that smell, and very rapidly, Fascism may win."

- George Orwell

tl;dr stop being a pack of soulless technophiles and demented degenerates, and show capital S Socialism as humane, warm, unobtrusive, and kind
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>>70922547
>commies want everybody to bee the same,no freedom,no art,not culture,
>we are all equal and the same,we have no liberty and feed of the tit of the almighty state
>massive genocide of millions, but we still have a soul!
VS
>capitalism,freedom, its a gamble, the thrill,if you got $$$ you can do whatever you want(as long as it doesn't infringe on others)
>dont have $$$? then get of your lazy ass and work for it
Yeah sure comrade, shut up or back to the gulag for you
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If your kid brings two sadwitches to school, finds one of the other kids has none and gives him one, this is good.
This is not communism through. This is charity.
Your kid is given a good upbringing and knows to help a fellow man.

If your kids does not give a shit, and gobs both of the sadwitches, this is not capitalism. This is bad, but its because your kid is a dick, and your failure as a parent.

Communism is when teacher takes all sadwitches from all the kids, threatning to beat them if they do not give. The sitting at his teachers table and cutting each and every sandwitch in as many pieces as there are kids in the class. He does that for so long the kids all have belly aches from being hungry, the bread turns stale, and some pieces that were cut first begun to rot. Then he picks ten of the freshest pieces and takes them for himself, for cutting the bread. Then he takes those pieces and puts all of them into a bucket after old floor cleaning water that he just emptied to mix them up. And then finally he walk around the classroom giving every kid their fair share of sadwitch pieces.

So kids are now hungry, sad, and istead of a meal they have a small pile of sandwitch pieces that some are dry, some are damp from bucket water, some are even rotten, and some are still edible.

This is communism. You have to be retarded to want this.

t.Person from an ex-communist country
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>>70920904
> ITT: Useful Idiots who think they are Fellow Travelers

Marxism in all it's forms is a failure
Mensheviks : FAILED
Bolsheviks: FAILED
Trotskyites: FAILED
Leninists: FAILED
Maoists: FAILED
Khemer Rouge: FAILED
Zapatistas: FAILED
Fascists: FAILED
Nazis: FAILED

the list goes on.
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>>70920904
Reminder that socialism is equally as cancerous as capitalism. Corporatism ftw.
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>>70925509
> unironically supporting Fascism
> failing to recognize that Fascism is The Authoritarian Socialist State of Marx

read Das Kapital and Mussolini's Doctrines of Fascism

Fascism IS Marxian Socialism re-branded to sell in Italy

it's literally the same shitty product in a shiny new package.
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>>70925213
Tito was comparatively okay, given what happened after his death.
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>>70920904

Back to your containment board at 9chan you autistic retard
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>>70926065
>not internationalist
>not stateless
>class collaboration rather than class warfare
>money still exists as a reward for work
>corporations still exist
>borders not only exist but are given extreme importance
>traditions and culture given large importance and promoted
>races and genders aren't seen as equal
How in any way is fascism like Marxism?
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Get out of Finland you scum
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All Commie shits must hang.
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>>70926417
>that bad posture
>that edgy attitude
>that floppy fringe
Communists never change
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>>70926561

That death looks way too honorable for such a faggot.
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>>70920904
m8, this is the 21st century
no one believes in communist shit anymore
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>>70926293
> compares Fourth Stage Utopian Communism to 3rd stage Authoritarian Socialist State
> cant even understand Marxian Theory

The Authoritarian Socialist State is the proposed intermediate step between Marx's Proletarian Revolution and the ultimate (and fictional) end stage of Utopian Communism

had you read your Marx you would understand this and recognize The Authoritarian Socialist State for what it is, an essential part of the Marxian Plan

much in the way christians believe you cant get to "heaven" without first submitting yourself to christ, Marxists believe you cant go from Proletarian Revolution to Utopian Communism without first progressing through The Authoritarian Socialist State.

"mainstream" Revolutionary Communism (Bolshevism) rejects Fascism because Fascism bypasses the Proletarian Revolution, kinda like Protestantism rejects the intercessionary power of the priests and the confessional in the remission of sin, replacing it with a "personal relationship with jesus"

Fascism is Protestant Communism
the same goals, the same holy scripture, the same mechanisms of control, but differing on the minutia thus, schism.

like all schisms, the various sects hate each other with a passion and call each other heretics.

to outsiders (like me) it's still the same basic shit, but to the believers of course, it's TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!!
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>>70926897

Maybe not in South Korea. You have such a contrast up north that the idea of supporting Communism seems absurd.
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>>70925213

Mensheviks : Jews co-opted it
Bolsheviks: Jews co-opted it
Trotskyites: Jews co-opted it
Leninists: Jews co-opted it
Maoists: Jews co-opted it
Khemer Rouge: shitskins
Zapatistas: shitskins
Fascists: wat
Nazis: Jews co-opted it and played both sides
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>>70921367
Finland exists still as Finland.

Soviet Union is no more. Who won again?
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Daily reminder that if you're Aryan and support Anglos, you're part of the problem
you will be purged soon enough

FTFY
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>>70921785
Go to study in soviet union, faggot
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Back to /leftypol/.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hJWlKk4oas
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China = works
Titoism = worked
Cuba = worked
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>>70928907

China isn't Communist at this point.
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>>70927859
> Marxism only failed because the jews broke it!
> Marxism only exists because the jews invented it!
> jews both created and destroyed marxism because ummm... errr.... welll...
> Fuck You JIDF!!!

thats some mighty fine logic you got there faggot.
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>>70928297
Come this summer to Saint Petersburg to booze with us.
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>>70928907
> China
so successful at Marxism that they have abandoned pretty much every ideal of Socialism except One Party Rule and Dictatorship

> B-b-b-but muh Tito!!
hows them balkans workin out for ya these days?
without the soviets to prop him up, tito fell like a sack of shit.
his dictatorship was weaker than castro's

> Cuba
a worker's paradise so awesome that people try to paddle inner tubes 90 miles through shark infested waters to get to miami.

fucking cubans even snuck into Haiti for fuck's sake.
HAITI!!!
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>gommunism

even shows for autists know communism sucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioDuLqK_LuY
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>>70929433
These countries didnt have an option on the table to be rich western democracies...EVER.
The chioce was always between brutal capitalism dicatatorship and communism. Communism was always better.
Today people are poorer in balkans than under Tito.
Also Castro was always much better than the alternative.
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>>70929732
> muh Jared Diamond assertions
check out Bermuda, the richest per capita nation in the americas (beating the US by a fair margin) and the lowest "wealth disparity" in the western hemisphere

and ohh my, whats that? bermuda is Majority Black African, with a lengthy slavery history, and shit for natural resources?
how can this be???

bermuda doesnt even have a legendary tobacco and cigar industry, yet they have capitalismed their way to the top

but yeah, sven, marxism is always the best choice.
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>>70930255
>marxism is always the best choice
Its not that easy. Different things work for different nations. Democracy doesnt work everywhere.
The point I'm making is that not everybody has that luxury to have those choices.

Chinese hybrid communism works, like it or not.
Working 3 jobs to survive in US doesnt look like its working out any more.
Capitalism only works if you have someone or something to exploit. It's a huge drain on human and natural resources. It's not a sustainable system.

It's fair to day that communism needs more human rights, but capitalsm is killing the planet.
Good luck with that.
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daily reminder that commies are low life scum
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>>70930255
>bermuda doesnt even have a legendary tobacco and cigar industry, yet they have capitalismed their way to the top
Are you forgeting 50 years of sanctions on Cuba?! Dont be silly. Cuba never had a chance!
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>>70931154
>US wont rrade w/ cuba
> rest of world still does
> No Chance

really sven?
is that how you wanna go out?
declaring that if the US wont trade with you, youre doomed?

REALLY?

get serious faggot.
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>>70930255
dude, bermudas are harbor for economic criminals, they should be nuked
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>>70920904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az4GUQu7OsI
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>>70920904
I grew up and stopped being a socialist. Started to think critically. Try it, mongol
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