I don't get why everyone on /pol/pins all the Soviet Union's agreements and mistakes to Russia. To remind you all, the Soviet Union consisted of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Lithuania, Moldova, Latvia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Armenia, Turkmenistan, and Estonia. Someone tell me why Russia gets all the blame and the rest of these countries don't get any shit at all.
>implying satellite states had any power
Moscow pulled all the strings.
>>70916747
>ukraine
no such country
>>70916863
>Implying Poland is a country and not just a meme
someone need to put you back into place, Polska? It's obviously not space.
>>70916747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJpQeA3-tfI
>>70916747
Mongolia wasnt part of the USSR tho
>>70916747
Because Russia is legally the succesor state
>>70917550
It might as well have been. It was a buffer from Japan.
>>70916747
Because Russia ran the Soviet Union. On paper it was a union of semi-equal states, but in practice it was "Do what Russia wants or starve." You think the Holodomor was just because Stalin didn't like Ukrainians? That was a shot across the bow.
>>70917919
Actually other shit states dont have anything to complain. Russia alone payed ALL foreing debt of Soviet Union. Other states did not pay anything so they can stfu
>>70918118
For the first time I will say this. I am sad you guys won the winter war.
>>70918017
>he thinks hoholmordor was real
>>70916747
All those countries had the same say on how the Union was run as Norway had on how the Third Reich will be run, or Straya had on how the British Empire was run.
>>70918017
Famine also affected southern Russian regions and Kazahstan. Why? Because those regions were the major food producers which had their food confiscated to be transferred to cities to support fast industrialization. It wasn't targeted at Ukraine.
>>70918173
You don't win wars by losing territory.
>>70918244
Australia actually had self government. For example during the war Churchill asked Australia to send more troops to help in North Africa and they told Britain to fuck off because they were fighting the Japanese. Australia also enjoyed extensive self-government with its own laws etc.
The empire when it came to dominion territories was more of a trade-military alliance really.
>>70918292
>we dindu nuffin, soviets were good boys, give more money for jewish bolshevism
>>70918591
>hurr durr I'm a retard that can only talk in memes derp
>>70916969
Wanted to turn it off because the dude looks like a chink John Lenon cosplayer, but it was a pretty legit video
>>70918317
You don't win a war by grabbing a little bit of land while losing massive amounts of troops and equipment while fighting a farmer state that has less population two bigger cities in your land.
You were 20 dudes that jumped two, 10 of you woke up in the hospital, 5 didn't wake up at all, but you sure as hell won that cap that you managed to nick from them.
>>70918318
I was talking about times before WWII, but alright, maybe it wasn't the best example, but the idea is there.
>>70918789
It doesn't matter, we achieved our primary objective, therefore we won. You don't unlock any achievements by killing many enemy troops in war.
>>70918739
>calling other people retards while defending jewish soviet "union"
lmao are you lobotomized or something m8
>>70916747
>AusFAILia
> blaming rape victims for enticing their rapist
Eat a sack of kangaroo shit, m8.
>>70916747
>Yygur
>Wigger
top lel
>>70918118
Countries occupied by an agressor have nothing to complain about?
>>70918859
Most achievements are link with exactly that. Do you even game, skrub?
Pyrrhic victory if you are so inclined, but don't kid saying that you achieved your primary objective, you merely achieved AN objective. Fascist-capitalists that abused the proletariat retained their independence in the rest of Finland, against stacked odds. But naturally taking whole of Finland was never the goal, right? Right, guise?
>>70916844
Beria, Staline, Kaganovitch and a lot of other Soviet leaders were not Russian
>>70919241
Taking Finland was an optional objective. The main one was pushing the border away from Leningrad to try and make it a bit safer when Hitler will inevitably use Finland to attack it. We proposed them to exchange that land to twice as much of ours but they refused so we had to take it by force.
If we really wanted to conquer them we would have done so during or after WW2.
>>70919476
>If we really wanted to conquer them we would have done so during or after WW2.
yeah no, that would lead to massive losses to your already rekt army and a huge wave of hate for the soviet bolshevism, possibly risking of involving norway and sweden which are western allies and you get a new war that removes your nation forever, like Patton and others insisted on doing
>>70919476
And you seriouslybelieve that? Probably other expansions were also linked with just trying to protect yourself? That you actually wanted just Karelia and not whole of Finland, that it was not a way to save what very little face you could in that situation?
>>70919476
Shh Sergei no tears now... only vodka and sauna.
>>70916747
>Why doesn't anyone blame what the British empire did on India?
>>70919666
Why would defeating and denazification of Hitler's allies would be a bad thing? We did this for half of Europe. Our army was not "rekt" it was modernized, experienced and on the roll compared to pre-war times.
>Norway, Sweden
>relevant
top cuck
>>70919714
Again, we wanted to move the border away from Leningrad and proposed to do this peacefully. Look at prewar maps, it's insanely close and most of the city was in direct artillery range.
>>70919724
No tears, Finns are bros. :^)
>>70918017
>stalin geogrian
>hrushev , bregniev ukrainians
>russians ruled ussr its all they blame
>holodomor is real
What you eat on breakfast , kevin? Kilo of blue pills?
>>70920096
Holodomor was real. It was apart of the international Jewry's plan. Stalin or any of the general secretaries after Lenin didn't have any real power it was run by the Jews and thrown away by the jews when it was no longer needed.
Russians only made up 50% of the Soviet population.
>>70920096
Hey at least stalin outjewed the jews unlike cuck hitler
>>70920304
All ussr starving in that time. Russians , belorussians and etc. Only hohols make holodomor meme from it. Its just another antirussian meme
Stalin was Georgian.
Lenin was part Jewish, part German and part native Siberian.
>>70920021
More vodka. Whatever we think of russians and vice versa, it will be all gone in 100 years when all that is left is ruins and niggers and muslims. Around the globe.
>>70916747
Maybe because only russian fags are masturbating on commies, also Russia as Successor State to USSR get all privileges from it, like nuclear weapons and veto in UN.
>>70916747
Because those countries are shit.
>>70920411
Lmao
Maybe go outside RT for Russian news mr chicken
>>70920700
And depts
>>70920304
Stalin jewed more Jews than Hitler
>>70920304
Stalin jewed more Jews than Hitler though
>>70920700
Good goy
Fuck off, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania restored the pre-war republics, we had nothing to do with teh Soviet Union.
>>70921268
>>70921268
But SU just restored Imperial borders, we did nuffing wrong.
>>70916747
>What is occupation?
>>70921636
Never happen.
This was the average russian response when they finally liberated the baltics states from their corrupt capitalist goverment
>>70921803
Sauce pls
>>70921803
Yay. We just returned they to our big Baltic-Finno-Ugric family.
Antisoviet means antirussian. Nailed.
>>70921943
Gib clay
>>70921888
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/461592/34c706c431/
Russia was the top dog
like Serbia was in Yugoslavia
but worse
>>70921991
thangs m8
>>70916939
there is no Poland too, they just do not know
>>70922051
>implying serbia did anything wrong
>>70922218
not saying they did anything wrong
but they were the top republic in terms of political power in yugoslavia
they didn't have nearly as much influence over other republics as the Russian SSR had over the rest of USSR. But they had a lot of power and influence
>>70919476
>We proposed them to exchange that land to twice
> Taking Finland was an optional objective
Boris Kosher Spiegel has posted.
>>70921991
wew lad
Yandere + Touhou Project
Noice
>>70922423
A perfect representation between russia and the baltic states
>>70919375
Still Slavs
>>70916747
>and the rest of these countries don't get any shit at all
Because Russia was the only one who made decisions you nonce
>>70922776
Guys... You really don't know how Soviet system worked. But I'm to lazy to enlighten you.
>>70923078
It work perfectly. So perfect they became a superpower. After about twenty years of its birth. Better than hitler and his cuck ideology.
>>70918242
>he thinks the holocaust was real
Because USSR was just Russian Empire 2: Electric Boogaloo.
As rebranding it was quite successful and assured them some support among weak-minded leftists even to this day.
>>70923603
I was going to say this but communists are scary and I didn't want them to yell at me
>>70923603
So those that make josef stalin a Tsar
>>70916863
>PooLand.
>>70920096
>Stalin dindu nuffin.
>He a gud boi. Industrialisation, programs and shiet.
>Holodomor not real!!!
You sound exactly like the Eternal Roach.
>>70920411
>Russians starving.
WHERE ARE THE PROOFS THAT THEY STARVED?
Oh that's right, they stole all the food from Ukraine.
>>70924621
>>70923293
>It work perfectly. So perfect they became a superpower. After about twenty years of its birth
this. When our liberals start whining how ineffective communism was (the same fags that made our capitalist economy fall apart and default in 1998) I ask them how came we got so strong so fast. But muh Gulags! As if I care, stop lying about system being ineffective faggots.
>>70920700
>Only Russia got nuclear weapons
>>70916747
Because Russians were leaders and the rest of them were cucks.
Same reason why everyone only blames Germany for WW2, even though Austria was in on it too.
>>70925406
And Italy. And Hungary. And Romania. And Croatia. And especially Latvia and Estonia (3 SS divisions and 2 Standarten of Baltic volunteers, more even than Dutch or Flemish volunteers, the most numerous single ethnicity to volunteer in the SS).
All gleeful Nazi collaborators.
>>70916747
>I don't get why everyone on /pol/pins all the Soviet Union's agreements and mistakes to Russia.
Russia forced most of them in at gunpoint. When you do that, they are your responsibility. If they revolt or ruin you, it is still your responsibility.
>>70926263
Nah, Croatia is only blamed by us, because we were their primary victims.
Jew propaganda officially only blames Germany and most people in the world don't know much about any other country's part.
>>70926263
>>70926579
Also, most Serbs outside of Vojvodina don't even know that Hungarians were Nazis.
>>70926579
283rd, 284th and 279th (Kroatische) Wehrmacht divisions fought on the Eastern front. The Regular Croatian army and Ustase fought as rear echelon troops for Germany, supressing partisans and guarding rear area deposits.
Croatia merrily cooperated.
Hell, you could say even Spain backed Germany in WWII. The 250th (Blaue/Azul) Wehrmacht Division of Falangist volunteers fought on the Eastern front, and Spain provided cheap raw materials and food to Germany. And effectively guarded its south-eastern flank, of course.
>>70926788
To be fair Franco wanted to eliminate the more fanatical fascist on his country.
>>70926962
Franco was inclined to join the Axis in 1941 except the Diplomat Hitler sent to negotiate Spain joining, was von Falkenberg, who convinced Franco not to join.
He was quite inclined to regain Gibraltar, and he did owe Mussolini and Hitler a fair bit for their help during the Civil War.
This reminded me of this =D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65SwzHAbes
>>70927237
No. I am pretty sure franco was the only one who saw the writting in the wall and refuse to join hitler and his war. Sending men and trading was just a formality
>>70927514
He changed his mind by late 1941.
>Indeed, in June 1940, after the Fall of France, the Spanish Ambassador to Berlin had presented a memorandum in which Franco declared he was "ready under certain conditions to enter the war on the side of Germany and Italy".
>Hitler and Franco met at Hendaye, France on 23 October 1940 to fix the details of an alliance... Franco asked for too much from Hitler... A few days later in Germany, Hitler would famously tell Mussolini, "I prefer to have three or four of my own teeth pulled out than to speak to that man again!" It is subject to historical debate whether Franco overplayed his hand by demanding too much from Hitler for Spanish entry into the war, or if he deliberately stymied the German dictator by setting the price for his alliance unrealistically high, knowing that Hitler would refuse his demands and thus save Spain from entering another devastating war.
>According to Franco's own autobiography, he also met privately with Italian leader Benito Mussolini in Bordighera, Italy on 12 February 1941[7] at Hitler's request. Hitler hoped that Mussolini could persuade Franco to enter the war. However, Mussolini was not interested in Franco's help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_and_World_War_II
There was also a source I once read about Hitlers diplomats screwing him over in dealing with Franko, but I couldnt find it quickly.
>>70927917
Its kind of weird knowing franco outlive the two people who prompted him up
>>70925046
>got so strong
Probably from gobbling up vast territories during the war ickuding their resources, tech from cou tries school as Germany and your economy jumping forward from the war like the United States.
>>70928827
You just afraid that Russia doesn't give you to influence all over the globe. You've got Ukraine under your control, but didn't get Crimea.
>>70922718
Stalin and Beria were georgians.
>>70922776
Leaders made choices. And most of the leaders were not russians. How great it was for Russia to give Crimea to Ukraine? How great it was for Russia to support most of other republics?
>>70924621
lol try to read atleat fucking wiki
>>70924484
Show me where i say thatstalin is goodblind retard
U see not existed thing , all balts literally lives in anti russian imaginarium
>>70929095
>>70929547
>>70929667
>>70929934
So when will another Stalin take over Russia?
>>70916747
I can't believe how many replies this got
Everyone fucking knows the CCCP had a highly centralized Russian government
Aussie's not even trying anymore and you all still fall for it!
>>70916747
>Uyghur
>Mongol
>Manchu
You what?
>>70930772
Heavily influence by the soviet union
>>70925406
>russians in soviet
>leaders
Are you retard? All leaders in soviet was Jews.
>>70931424
Even worse. Some of them were Ukrainians.
>>70931653
That would explain the famine.
>>70931653
At least we are not proud of this scum, unlike russians.
>>70916747
I don't blame Russia. I blame the Jews.
>>70931762
Do you know who oversee collectivization?
Local Ukrainian party and military units.
So if there were holdomor it was done by Ukrainians and Ukrainian Jews mostly.
>>70931762
>explain the famine
Commie subhumans stole all the food from Ukraine and took it to Moscow.
>>70932033
Must be why my grandfather was starving as a young child in belarus
>>70931871
Sure, you're proud of your bandits and murderers which you call "heroes".
>>70932033
Local Ukrainians and jews stole food and send some to Moscow, most keeping for themselves.
It was similar situation when deportation happened. In plan commies deport potentially dangerous population from border areas with their own food/tools/livestock/supplies to undeveloped core areas so they can develop them and not cause problem on border.
In reality local party give deported people 15 minutes to gather possessions and steal the rest. In result deported people land in unfriendly land with no supplies and many died.
USSR wasn't that well organized like everyone think. It was half feudal state. Ruled by former peasant and criminals. At the beginning.
Stalin really did a hell of the job. and most purges were essential to make it work.
>>70932158
All people always starving in USSR except of jewish, but holodomor It is more terrible thing it was more like genocide Ukrainians that are disagree with occupation by fucking commies.
>>70932161
>russia
>said about proud of bandits and murderers
>>70916747
>forcefully occupied and annexed
>LOL U WER DE USSR XDDDDDDDD
>>70926263
>Latvia
So?
While you're at it don't forget Latvia held the most awards and honors of any non-german SS division
>>70933211
There are no soviet heroes which can be describesd as " bandits and murderers".
>>70933583
All soviet "heroes" are bandits and murderers, which was killing their own people, Ivan.
>>70933749
Who, for one?
>>70933870
Zukow.
>>70933951
>bandit
>murderer
which one can be applied to him?
>>70934152
Butcher.
He kill more Russian soldiers than Germans.
>>70933870
Stalin, lenin, zukow, Few? so you can watch them every 9th may on commie-gay parade of those who haven’t die yet.
>>70934426
So you can say Rydz-Śmigły killed more Poles than Nazi Germany and USSR combined.
>>70916747
Someone tell me why Russia takes all the credit for the accomplishments of USSR and deflects the blame to all the problems and failures to the republics.
>>70933749
My grandmother had very fond memories of the germans. The soldiers were always polite, gave her candy and even helped her with farm work. Her family even had two german officers over for dinner at one point.
First Russian soldiers she saw in 1944 were drunk as fuck and peeing in the streets. She ran or she might have been raped.
>>70934426
>He kill more Russian soldiers than Germans.
Personally? I just have no idea how it is even possible.
>>70934574
That is right.
He was incompetent moron.
>>70934802
He has nasty habit of execution of his officers and soldiers.
>>70934798
>Surprisingly, not everyone in the German Army was a Nazi
Really?
>>70934798
You can hear similar kind of stories in all Ukraine by old people.
>>70935071
So why my ukrainian grandma tells me story how she saved waunded russian soldier, and how 2 germans rape and kill her aunt ?
>>70935941
Because they were SS dick sucking nazi's not average German Army recruits.
>>70935941
Maybe because your grandmother bitch aren't lived in Ukraine and hiding in Siberia there were no Germans, just drunk cowardly Ivans.
>>70934960
Who exactly was executed by Zhukov's order? Just give me a few names.
>>70937302
Tвoй aнглийcкий yжaceн. Bыyчи хoтя бы бaзoвыe пpaвилa.
