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Imageboards started in Japan, they are closely connected to Anime and Hikikomori culture. Japan is a huge and wealthy country & teaches English in high schools.

So why are Japanese an exotic minority here?
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>>70915230
bump for interest, who can answer?
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The Japanese suck at English. Very few of them speak it well.

Speaking of which, can someone explain to me why almost all Scandinavians seems to speak almost perfect English, even the young kids? How does that happen?


Th
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Because the japanese fucking suck at any nonweeb language
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>>70915230
1) The Japanese are terrible with English.
2) The Japanese dislike foreigners.
3) They have their own websites.
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They have their own imageboards.
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>>70915230
Because we have 2ch.
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>>70915452
Fucking this.

And Japan doesn't teach English so much as they teach memorization.
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>>70915230
Because you stink of butter and Syria.
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>>70915452
This
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>>70915374
TV and movies only in English with subtitels. I am ashamed how many young Germans can not speak or understand english
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We have futaba, however futaba (while somewhat aggressive) is still far less aggressive than 4chan. If you truly want to shitpost then you must venture here.
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>>70915374
Because unlike most other countries, we watch foreign movies in the original language with subtitles.
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>>70915385
Please teach me Mongolian.
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>>70915374
they have a very international globalist view on the world, it's hard to fathom as a resident of an english speaking nation (no offense) but they think it's a virtue to speak multiple languages (as do we dutch people (we're also nordic i guess)) also they're don't really have the type of nationalists that say, france has, that refuse to learn other languages.

Also scandinavian education is supposedly godlike.
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>>70915374
>almost all Scandinavians seems to speak almost perfect English, even the young kids? How does that happen?

English is basically simplified Germanic, so for many Germanic and Scandi language speakers its pretty intuitive. Combine this with the vast amount of English media, music and culture we consume and you'd be literally tetarded not to speak English at least decently well..
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>>70915374
good education
Films and tv series aren't overdubbed
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>>70915614
>If you truly want to shitpost then you must venture here.
Well, you're always welcome.
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>>70915374
Because Scandis learn English at school.
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>>70915834
We learn French in English schools but very few people can actually speak it to any developed level.
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>>70915555
We swapped out butter for mayonnaise years ago.
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>>70915452
>>70915555
>>70915614
Do you people just lurk all the time here until someone mentions Japan?
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>>70915881
Do you learn it since primary School?
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>>70915230
Probably because they're not facing cucklish times like the rest of the west, so they don't come to vent on /pol/ like most of us but I bet there're many on /a/ and /jp/.
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>>70915892
They are Americans on military bases or English teachers.

>>70915923
Yes.
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>>70915834
Same with just about every other country, including Japan.
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>>70915655
I don't know if it has much to do with nationalism in France's case. People are just retarded. Most french can't even fucking spell their own language right, let alone a foreign one.
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>>70915834
Everyone I know was already good in English before we started to study it in school. English classes were mostly a joke and few took it seriously. Subtitles and nobody else speaking your language do wonders for learning English.
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>>70915892
Mostly. Its like watching a nature documentary and I have learned much about western ecology because of 44chan. Americans and Australians are obviously the alphamales and hunter-gatherer's of this society while germans, Canadians and most European countries are the betamale. South East Asian are scavengers that eat shit and leftovers. Sweden is cockslut.
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>>70915655
It was godlike.
Now it has declined a lot. Mostly because they want to "include" the dumb and retarded kids into everything. Not to mention all the immigrant kids. So they lower the level of education to fit everyone.

>>70915834
Yep. We have mandatory English classes from the 3rd or 4th year to the 10th. German or French (optional) from the 8th to 10th.
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>>70916056
based nip
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>>70916056
Fuck yoj I thought we were allies
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>>70916070
That's the basic education though.
The English classes follow most higher basic education as well. With optional courses in business and/or technical English.
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>>70915230

Its as if they have their own 4chan or something
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What are non-native English speakers opinions on the language?

Grammar, sound, etc.
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>>70916056
This is not a gook. This is either a nigger on a proxy or a nigger teaching English in Japan. Either way, it's a nigger.
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>>70916070

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9VOFKCCaOQM
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>>70916038
You mongol fucks are terrible at English, you rally shit. Your disgusting language rolls into your English. Fuck I'm glad hockey teams are choosing swedes and avoiding Finns like the cancer you are>>70916056
O
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>>70916348
俺が黒人と思ってるかい?(笑)
確かに日本に住んでるクソ軍隊のアメリカ人が多いが、俺はただのニートや。
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>>70915452
T. US marine corps
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>>70916252
Why the fuck do you pronounce everything so weird.
A is a not ey
C is ce not zsi
E is e not i
G is ge not dji
H is ha not eyzh
I is i not ayy
J is jot not dhsey
O is o not öu
U is u not you
W is not dubbelyu (to be fair we pronounce Y üpsilon)
Remove your French shit words too. It's woods, not forest.
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>>70916460
Oh wow! Never seen treason be performed so enthusiastically before.
I only feel sadness for our Swedish brothers now.
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>>70915230
>exotic minority

Where is the english teacher thread? >tfw being nip

I'm serious, if you want to spot real nips, trust those with broken english. By the way, why do you want nippon posters?... its like to chat with autists

>>70916252
It's hard to "think" in english. A lot of ESL's have this problem. It's like a broken translator in our head.
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>>70915655
Yeah, dunno why, but poeple in Frogland think its actualy cool to hate on the US (communist party leftovers ?), also, everything is dubed so english is not that present in our day to day life.

Btw, thanks based 4chan for giving me a decent level of english.
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>>70915733
Finnish isn't Germanic, so this doesn't seem to be an ample explanation for why Nordic people speak English so well.
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>>70915733
>Germanic and Scandi
You mean Germanic?
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>>70915230
Because:
a) Japs like to seclude among themselves and don't want to associate with dirty gaijin
b) Japs can't into Engrish
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watashi wa pen desu
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>>70915230
Japanese can't speak english for shit, it's actually fashinating how they can fuck around with such a shitty language as their own, and yet they can't wrap their head around something way simpler.
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>>70916460
Bork bork! We must summon Anders
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>>70916825
harro pen
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>>70916838
Way simpler?
Japanese grammar is the simplest shit ever.
Only thing that is hard about nip-nong is the Kanji.
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>>70916838
The grammar is entirely different. In Japanese if you only catch the last part of a sentence you can still understand the general meaning of what someone was saying but for English you have to pay attention to the entire sentence much more. Many Japanese can probably understand written English but speaking/listening to it is far more difficult.
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>>70915881
French is a useless relic of a Language. Nobody remembers their French lessons because nothing noteworthy in the world of commerce or politics happens exclusively in French. English, on the other hand, completely dominates in this regard. People remember and improve their English after being taught the fundamentals because they figure out very quickly that's insanely useful to know.
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>>70916988
Can you give an example of a Japanese sentence with English words?
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>>70916573
なぜクソ黒人は風俗やクラブ客引きってことやってんの?
あれは怪しい過ぎてから絶対に遠慮しておこう。
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>>70915230

There are actually no native Japanese people here.

The ones you do see behind the flags are either foreign workers, tourists, U.S. servicemen or just good ol' I.Ps
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>>70916988
Huh? It's completely opposite.
Japanese is an extremely context-heavy language whereas English is not.
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>>70917082
The blacks in Tokyo and clubs are there to scam tourists into going into their overpriced bars, they work at clubs to scare off people that might cause trouble. The government turns a blind eye to their suspicious activity like how they turn a blind eye to most crime in Japan. Prostitution is illegal here but you can buy a prostitute in front of a police officer and nothing will happen.
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>>70915374
They can but they can't, much like non-germans will never quite get German hurmor due to it being very much based on little quirks in language, most scandinavians will never quite get our language, but will be able to communicate intent well enough.

Think of how many eastern Euro and Scandinavians overuse 'ing' they even have cases of the habitual be.
This is a very minor teaser as to the differences in non-native English to native English.

It's an Australian example, but most native English speakers can comprehend it, where non-natives can't - 'Cop'
In many places it means Police (Cop is abridged 'Copper' due to police badges being made of Copper) However in Australia is takes on a multitude of extra meaning, largely revolving around the idea of receiving something (originally receiving punishment from a 'copper')
To 'cop' something is to recieve it, like getting a fine is 'copping a fine' getting punched for being a dickhead, 'I copped a hit' 'fair cop mate' is another, usually being a question of whether a particular action was valid (ie. should you be doing this?)

Non natives will never quite get the nuances in our language.

What does this have to do with OP?
Nips too, like little in jokes with language, they can't do that on an English language board...
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>>70917048
toire doitsu ijuu reipu unching style.
make germany great again
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>>70917278
>Japanese
>Complaining about crime rates
???
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>>70917048
Store go!

Or more specific:
Store (locative particle) go (verb ending deciding conjugation)

I think, though. I don't speak moon.
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>>70917185
You don't know that with any degree of certainty. You just want people to take you seriously because nobody else does in your life.
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>>70917208
Context and subtlety is important in Japanese but because of the large use of subject modifiers of you only catch the last few parts of a sentence you can still grasp the general idea of a sentence. English is more descriptive but will place the action/been/subject sporadically throughout a sentence so you have to pay attention/listen intently the entire time.
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>>70915230
>>70915304
They have their own websites to post on. Why would they come here?
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>>70917353
Only in big shitpile cities and even then the crime is minor comparatively speaking. Blacks forcing people into buying counterfeit goods and businesses being fucked by Yakuza. Most Japanese don't live in big city areas so most don't deal with crime enough to complain about it at all.
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>>70917048
Genkidesuka?
How are you
Genki = health/healthy
desu = is like is/am/to be/
ka = is what they used to make a statement into a question
so its basically saying literally
healthy? while being directed to an individual

oder mit deustch grammatik
japanish: alles gut (du/ist) (?)
german: alles gut?
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>>70915374
As an English teacher in Japan, I can confirm that even the Japanese teachers of English here suck at English, even though it's their job...

>>70915528
Yep, it's a lot of rote memorization of word lists and set question-answer pairs. No one gives a damn about actually using the language, as much as I try and implement genuine communication exercises.
They always say it gets in the way of memorization... memorization isn't the same as learning...
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>>70917357
I just realized that people who learned English as a second language probably have a vastly superior understanding of the nuts & bolts of speech in general. I don't even know what a transitive verb is.
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>>70917278
Strictly speaking, only vaginal intercourse prostitution is illegal. There are also some evasions of the laws like soaplands, but generally it's completely legal to fuck a hooker in her asshole, finger her cunt, get pissed on by her and whatnot against money as long as you don't stick your dick in her pussy.

The FAQ of any brothel will say that vaginal intercourse is strictly forbidden and owners mostly try to enforce it (whether the girl actually abides is a different matter).
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>>70917546
>>70917562
is that right? im trying to avoid romanji but yknow 2 alphabets and kanji are a pain in my ass
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>>70917816
Why are you avoiding romaji?
It was the way I was taught Japanese...

>Learn spoken language first, then written.
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>>70917928
oh really? i was told it was better to avoid it - how long have you been learning for and on the scale of 1-10 how goods your speaking?
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>>70916988
Why do japanese people like loanwords so much? Even for things that have japanese words to denote them.
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>>70917487
>most don't deal with crime enough to complain about it at all
>complain about it
>complain

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/border-mexico/article/Photos-show-destruction-from-10-years-of-Mexican-6621726.php#photo-8933527
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>>70917928

I learnt Japanese at SOAS which is is pretty much the best uni in Europe to be taught Japanese. and they had us learn hiragana and katakana in the first weekend we we started classes. No romaji allowed, at all.
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>>70918020

Give me an example.
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>>70918020
>hate foreigners
>love their words and alphabets
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They stick to their original japanese imageboards. Moot didn't create 4chan. He just copypasted it and made it in english.
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>>70915622
underrated
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>>70918200
ソックス 靴下
ダンス 踊り
マップ 地図
I don't really see these particular words so much, but there are a lot of them and it makes me sad, when I'm forced to read broken english instead of japanese.
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>>70918513
We have a ton of English loanwords in our own language for shit that already has a word for it , mate. Like дoктop for instance among others.
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>>70918680
You can find дoктop in a lot of languages, i think, but I'm not happy with those new hipster words either. They are just ridiculous sometimes.
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>>70917816
What, is "genki desu ka" right? Yes, that's day 1 Japanese.

>im trying to avoid romanji but yknow 2 alphabets and kanji are a pain in my ass

If you have memorized literally anything in your life you can memorize the kana. Just set aside an hour a day for practice and you will have it learned in a week.
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>>70915374
Japs suck at English compared to Europeans. Its like how very few Americans are bilingual (except for the spics) because the US is a huge country where everyone speaks English. There's very little need to know a second language unless you're interested in travel
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>>70915230
Japanese people don't even want to leave their houses nigga why would they immigrate?
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>>70916027
Speaking for Quebecois, they are very scornful of speaking other languages even though most know English well enough. They'll treat you like shit if you don't attempt to speak French to them. They're especially angry towards middle easterners, Chinese and indians who don't speak French.
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>>70918014
>>70918146
Fair enough, maybe it's better to avoid it at an adult level.

I learned Japanese at Primary school and continued it at high school (through year 10, I didn't do any language courses in 11/12)

Not trying to bash or anything,u just sharing my experience.
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>>70916056
Hahahaha, stay based Japan.
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>>70916252

I fucking love it. I prefer writing in english than in spanish, plus memeing in spanish just doesn't flow as naturally as it does in english.
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1. Their English is often not so good.
2. They don't care about what is going on around the world. Why should they talk with foreigners then?
3. No time.
4. Most never heard about 4chan.

Source: Lived there long enough and my qt girlfriend is Japanese.
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>>70915230
>teaches English in high schools.
that answers your question

Not many of them can speak English very well.
Those that do, have high paying jobs which sort of implies they have no reason to frequent /pol/.
Now the ones that speak good English and post on here are either expats or maybe engineers that had no choice but to learn English because they have to work with foreigners.
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>>70922738
goddammit look at those trees!
it's almost like they aren't radioactive.
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>>70916968
>Kanji
Jap imported Kanji from China.
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>>70924338
And England imported the alphabet from Rome.
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>>70916252
awesome for memes and shitposting. That's it
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I don't think any pure blood "normal" native Japanese people post on /pol/ regularly. >>70917487 sounds close but I still suspect he's half at best. クソ軍隊のアメリカ人 sounds clumsy, maybe try クソ米軍 or something. は would also probably sound more natural there instead of が. And 黒人だ.
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>>70925126
Hehe, zing! oucha! Good one, homes...
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i just want a qt 3.14 nip

how do i get one? should i learn japanese?

Kaiju kamehameha totoro RAYYYYGUN

is this enough?
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>>70915374
finland is best land
west mongolia best mongolia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJoHeTtgePo
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>>70915230
Because this is an english speaking board. duh.
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>>70915555
What's the problem with butter?
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>>70924338
>Jap imported Kanji from China.
>>70925126
>And England imported the alphabet from Rome.
And half of their vocabulary from the French!
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>>70915733
>English is basically simplified Germanic

This is so incredibly wrong, you retard. It has a Germanic heritage but is much, much closer to French and Latin.
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>>70916056
thinking people are beta cos there country's are cuked go call some eastern block betas
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>>70916108
trust straylia to think that's a based account
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>>70924338
>dog is 大
>dog should be 狗
Who made this?
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>>70915655
>the type of nationalists that say, france has, that refuse to learn other languages

We learn 2 foreign language in middle school though.
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>>70930476
Stick to eating burger and giving jew money
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>>70915230
They only know speak japanese. They're a good country, but far away from Germany, UK and US. Despite of all degeneracy of these countries.
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>>70930476
>dog is 大
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>>70916252
Is confusing.. why do you write letters and don't pronounce them? In spanish every letter that you see is pronounce. Spanish has very clear rules.
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>>70916673
>Btw, thanks based 4chan for giving me a decent level of english.
Yes! thank you 4chan, my english has improved a lot.
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>>70930739
Lol desu
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>>70931174
wtf i hope the qt nip is worth learning that puzzle
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>>70915374

Because their education it's God-tier.

In Spain almost no one knows english, unless they go to any english academy or start to shitposting on /pol/.

And i have a great example, 3 years ago in my high school, two exchange students come to my classroom.
The guy was from Swiss and the girl from Finland and both spoke english perfectly, well the girl wasn't able to pass english exams here in Spain, when our level is shit-tier.
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>>70931631
>why do you write letters and don't pronounce them?

Usually those spellings are vestigial remnants in which the pronunciation changed but the spelling remained the same. For example "signal" and "sign" both originated from the Latin word "signum", but the g in the latter became silent.
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>>70932145
qt nip knows engrish bro have no ph34r
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>>70931174
Isn't 大 big and 狗 dog ? I thought 汉字 and Kanji always had the same meaning but different pronouciation.
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>>70915230
Because they have their own board to shitpost in.
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>>70917816
>>70919166
if you cant memorize katakana and hiragana just give the fuck up your not gonna learn jap took me about 2 weeks on an app in my free time
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>>70932685
大 is big, 犬 is dog, and just for fun 太 is fat. 猫is cat. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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>>70932685
大 is big, and the dictionary says 狗 is dog though I didn't recognize it. Usually Japanese write 犬 for dog.

>I thought 汉字 and Kanji always had the same meaning but different pronouciation.

I think there are a lot of exceptions. I don't know much about Chinese, so I can't really comment.
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>>70932685
stop talking out ur ass tard
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>>70933165
>>70933275
>>70932322
nip bro is it tru youd pretty much have to live in nihon if you wanted to become fluent
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>>70933352
Stop eating burgers fatass.
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>>70915230
Because they're so beta and awkward they can't handle the bantz.
They're all on their own weaboo websites
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>>70933495
You could try to voice chat with some japs every day for conversation practice, but that sounds like a pain. There are plenty of Finns, Swedes, and other Europeans who are exceptional in English even though they don't live in an English speaking country, so I suppose it's possible.
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>>70915230
They browse 2chan
Also nips aren't really involved with anything but domestic politics
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>>70933520
never
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>>70916056
Always based as fuck.

>>70917082
My eyes always go wet when I think I'll never hear Anna's sweet voice again. I thought Japan was clever enough to know a fucking PTE.
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>>70917562
That explains their good grades. Jesus. How can they say that anyone has learned how to do their job if the only thing they know is to bark on command?
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>>70915230
reporting in
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