Building 7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_w75WessnM
>>70911419
Oh yeah. It's a "fire". A super strong invisible one, too. Transports buildings to another dimension with its swamp-gassiness
It's a weather balloon
>>70911505
Holy fuck it's 2016 (2015+1) and you autist still believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories?
>>70911585
No way man
that's totally a legit spontaneous collaps.
are you nutty?
>>70911419
Can anyone explain what the fuck happened to that building?
>>70911627
:^)
>9/11 Truth is a meme. KSM hatched the plot and with help from UBL and Saudi royal money the US ignored the threat and gained permanent casus belli again the ME.
Demolition, plane swaps, energy, even the sacred cow WTC7, its all a circlejerk. I've spent approx 1000 hours researching 9/11 since 2007. AMA
>>70912074
does your name end in -berg or -stein?
>>70911585
yeah dude buildings just collapse like that all the time on their own cmon I mean ugh I cant even
>>70911627
It was damaged by north tower (WTC1) collapse, and the fire was ignored leading to progressive collapse
>>70912142
-er
>>70912142
his name is probably scholmo ovenfuel
>>70911585
Yes bro the jet fuel was so hot but so so hot the completly melted the whole infrastructure of the beams so homogeneous and perfectly that both building collapsed on a straight line.
>being this retarded
>>70912216
How many times have 767 crashed into buildings? Also tube in tube design vs traditional "grid" design
>>70912320
happens all the time bro i should know, i have family in sandy hook
>>70912394
no plane hit wtc 7.
some debris maybe hit it and "lit a fire".
apparently If I forget a lit cigarette in the office, the 40 floors building will collapse.
btw what is the best conspiracy theory about 9/11 documentary with actual facts and footage?
>>70911585
>>70912374
both buildings had asymmetric collapse initiations
>>70912447
That webm tells the story of controlled demolition.
But let's hear the resident experts theory, on how it 'really' happened.
>>70912490
Fahrenheit 911
>>70912374
the metal doesn't have to melt, just get hot enough to bend
Here is what I think the "conspiracy" on 9/11 is.
>government knows planes are hijacked
>some upper brass in charge
>don't do any thing, figure they will be hostage situation since just about all hijackings in the past were hostage situations
>instead of scrambling jets they just track them
>2 min before first plane crash figure our they will crash the planes
>scramble to erase all evidence you knew of the plane hijacking after the first crash
Some one fucked up, did not follow proper protocol and created minor inconsistencies in data evaluated over the years and now its a huge conspiracy theory over some peoples ineptitude.
>Debating 9/11 fuckery and cover-up on /pol/
>>70912602
70 stories below the impact?
>>70912603
lucky larry
>>70912487
If the building was 100 yards from where 2 110 story skyscrapers had just impacted into the ground BTFO the entire underground integrity of the area, torn a 25 story tall hole in the building, and you lit about 1000 cigarettes all over the building at once and let it burn for 6 hours then maybe
>>70912673
Why did the debris pile smolder and burn for 3 weeks after the event?
>>70911627
half of it was destryed when noth tower fell on it.
resulting "earthquake" from the other towers weakend it further.
>>70912716
Asgardian Magic.
Seriously why don't you just get an education or watch some films on demolitions instead of begging /pol/tards to spoon-feed you.
>>70912544
/thread
wtc 7 probably collapsed partially due to foundation giving in to the exceeding stresses
>>70912374
1, they didn't fall straight down, half the tops toppled and landed streets away.
2. Jet fuel can't melt steel, But Jet fuel + Aluminium fuselage creates an exothermic reaction which burns 3x hotter which WILL melt steel.
learn2metallergy
Learn2chemistry
>>70912891
>But Jet fuel + Aluminium fuselage creates an exothermic reaction which burns 3x hotter which WILL melt steel.
>>70912602
so you are telling me that whne the plane crash somehow the jet fuel spread and trickled down exactly where the beams were, from the main tank of a 747 wich is in the belly so that would put it in the middle of the building wich is basically inside the building since the plane nose dove the building so then the jet fuel became really hot because there was some fire wich obviously makes sense and spread out into the side beams and trickled down to make it bend and crumble.
>OK
>>70912490
For 9/11 truth point of view I recommend:
Decade of Deception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqqelDq4P48
Everything is a Rich Man's Trick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
Anatomy of A Great Deception:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc
These are some of the best researched
>>70912969
yes
Jet fuel + fuelage creates liquid "lava effect"
this is what is seen coing out the windows before collapse
>>70911585
>using le current year meme unironically
Holy fuck it's 2016 and you still don't believe 9/11 was a false flag?
>>70912960
>>70912891
With the plane positioned somewhere in the middle of the building, blanketed in debris and with no route for heat to escape, the temperature would have rapidly escalated, reaching 660 degrees Celsius (1,220 degrees Fahrenheit), the melting point of aluminum — of which there was 30 tons in each plane fuselage — within an hour. The molten aluminum would then have heated up further to between 800 and 850 C (1,470 and 1,560 F).
"Then molten aluminum becomes [as liquid as] water and has so much heat that it will flow through cracks in the floor and down to the next floor," Simensen explained in an email. There was an automatic sprinkler system installed in each ceiling, and it was filled with water. "When huge amount of molten aluminum gets in contact with water, a fierce exothermic reaction will take place, enormous amount of hydrogen is formed and the temperature is locally raised to 1,200 to 1,500 C," or 2,200 to 2,700 F.
http://www.livescience.com/16179-twin-tower-collapse-model-squash-9-11-conspiracies.html
>>70912603
I'm pretty sure that if a commercial flight deviates significantly from its assigned path and altitude and doesn't respond to flight controllers, then people will inevitably be notified. Wouldn't make sense for there to be a coverup of that.
For anyone who doesn't get it let me spell this out
>building 7 CLEARLY brought down by controlled demolition
This is where you have to start growing a pair and using some common sense. Lies and placating explanations will be proposed but anyone with even the most rudimentary knowledge can see from the video in the OP that building 7 was demolished suddenly, uniformly, and totally.
>using logic and not assumptions what must this mean?
At some point prior to 9/11 building 7 was "rigged" to be brought down in a controlled demolition
>why?
good question.
>why continue to deny and lie as the NIST did in their conclusion that office fire lead to a universal and total sudden collapse?
another good question, the answer to which would likely lead to further questions that the powers that be don't want asked.
>one last question to ponder
if building 7 was rigged for collapse without any foreknowledge how many other buildings and sky scrapers (inhabited or in public use) the world over are currently rigged to be utterly destroyed at the push of a single button even as you or I sit here?
>>70913181
not in 2001 retard.
you fucking kids believingthat current procedures were in place 15years ago.
>there are people on this board right now that weren't old enough to be exposed to the social conditioning psy-op experiment 9/11 false-flag attack on the United States
>>70911627
it was rigged to blow
Literally the only explanation that makes a lick of sense.
Some groups came up with a bullshit computer simulation of the collapse where they basically worked backwards to try and figure out how to make the whole structure collapse - not from looking at the actual evidence in the debris, which was all melted down/dumped ASAP with investigators prevented from getting any access - but rather from the "official investigation" which said it happened x way, and the simulation then had to prove it happening x way.
Officially, the collapse of the WTC buildings magically started a fire in the basement of WTC 7. This fire just so happens to hit a huge fuel tank in the basement and becomes a raging inferno that somehow, quite astonishing really, gives off pretty much no smoke yet manages to melt and destroy a single support beam that then, amazingly, causes the entire building to collapse pretty much instantly. If you look at videos of the building, the fire you see is actually entirely constrained to an upper level floor, rather than the basement, and is only one a single level, with windows blown out only on that level, like explosions went off for that floor only.
The 2001 attacks were planned and carefully executed demolition jobs. WTC 7 is the smoking gun for a lot of the circumstantial evidence around the larger WTC buildings and the other plane crashes that all point to this fact.
There was an absolutely massive shilling campaign online and in the media trying to make anyone and everyone who didn't believe the official story to be a 'conspiracy nut'. Meanwhile critical eyewitnesses start committing suicide with two gunshots to the back of their heads, video evidence gets mass confiscated by intelligence agency sweeps and never published or revealed, and the 'investigation' into the attacks is underfunded and the evidence largely destroyed before it can even be looked at.
>>70913242
Do you know how they keep planes from colliding in midair? Each plane is assigned a specific path and altitude, and deviating from either of those is considered a serious matter requiring immediate attention. This is basic shit.
>>70913234
riiiight.
controlled demolition.
in the middle of the day, with millions people watching on TV.
Yeah the government planned one of the most elaborate false flags but overlooked this somewhat important point
or did the wtc7 pilot sleep in so the government thought "fuck it, we just bombed the pentagon, 2 WTC towers but fuck it , blow WTC7 anyway, noone will notice?"
you fucking dipshit
Also you have no clue who a demolition is prepared.
The BBC reported on its collapse before it happened, with WTC-7 still clearly visible in the background as they were reporting on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677i43QfYpQ
>>70913358
no shit,
but in 2001 it wasn't a red light warning you fucking retard
>>70911585
You would think someone with decades of Nazi Guilt Studies would know a thing or two about false flags.
>>70912602
Protip: The steel used in the WTC is rated to survive for 16 hours, at least, at the temperature it was 'officially' exposed to.
There is absolutely no realistic scenario where the support structure of the buildings could have collapsed from heat within a 40min - 2 hour timeframe. Especially when the fire hardly even existed.
Compare it to actual skyscraper fires and the collapse of the WTC from "fire" looks like a fucking joke.
>>70913418
this is incorrect
the report was it was ABOUT to collapse.
or were the 100s of reporters in on the conspiracy?
>>70913500
read the thread.
there is
>>70911419
>le buildings fell down on their own footprint
No, the buildings destroyed an area of 6 city blocks, multiple towers had to be torn down due to the extensive damage they received
WT7 had half of the side facing WTC torn out after the collapse.
>they fell at free fall speed
literally not true.
>le current year
>still believing the official story
Hey everyone knows terrorists brought down the WTC, they found their god damn passports in the rubbles. Remember? What else do you truthers need?
>>70913566
>was about to
See the undedited video you faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M26-B44qQIs
>>70913649
Anyone who believes WTC7 was a controlled demolition is a retard and has never hung up christmas lights, let alone been on a construction site.
>>70912320
IT'S THERMITE PAINT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U39mtKT48b0
>>70913440
Hahaha yes it was. The military wouldn't be notified the moment somebody moved from their assigned path, but considering that there were 32 minutes between hijacking and impact, and that the controllers could actually hear what the hijackers were saying, I would recommend that you stop being a little shit.
Especially since NORAD and NEADS were contacted directly by the ARTCC for Boston, and fighters were in the air minutes after impact.
>>70913708
they also found passports of other passengers
some still in the jeans pockets with half a leg inside,
they also found seat cushions which are highly flammable
>>70911419
>2016
>Still believing goat fuckers with box cutters did 9/11
>>70913804
incorrect.
>>70913330
>shilling campaign
on a level that surpasses anything that came before it and is still fiercely defended online and on television (even to this second)
You want to see how powerful 9/11 truth is look what happened to Jeb!
Trump so much as sniffs in the general direction of Bush+9/11 and the Republican's presumptive nominee with millions of dollars behind him goes fleeing in the opposite direction with a puddle of piss behind him and drops out.
>>70911419
>>70912969
Fuel is kept in the wings you black fuckwit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnLcUxV1dPo
>>70914008
this.
this post exposes conspiracytard for the ignorant fucks that they are.
>>70913751
It was obvious to Danny Jowenko (RIP). I guess he was a retard... a retard with a controlled demolition company.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DRhwRN06I
WTC7 is a litmus test of rationality. You failed, faggot.
For you, 2 + 2 = 5 if it is officially declared by a socially accredited or government appointed expert or institution.
Open your eyes and use your brian, moran.
if you go with the official narrative you're either a shill or a complete fuckwit. there i said it.
>>70914186
hundreds of individual explosives drilled into the centre of key support posts.
each one connected to each other to create a circuit.
1 wire gets dislodged, it fails to go boom.
half of north tower falls on wtc7, somehow the wiring stays intact
you keep believing your delusions of conspiracies. you are clearly using them as an escape from your pathetic life
>>70912490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk
Retarded keyboard detectives, cherrypicking your evidence to suit your delusional theories
I'm pretty sure now that You are compensating for your low to middling intelligence by creating fantasies of secretive ubermensches running the world, so your "discovery" of their super secret hidden plots makes you feel more intelligent that the average person who isn't "smart" (read: delusional) enough to have found them.
Even worse, due to you finding others with similar neuroses (like most of this thread), you find people who are reinforce your delusions and allow you to share and combine the delusions to create webs of conspiracies that only you guys are smart enough to know about, circlejerking over how "clever" you all are while rational human beings desperately try to educate you.
I kinda feel bad for you.
because conspiracy theorists believe that the government is capable of literally anything, and that in fact they achieved literally everything worth achieving sometime around world war 2 and have kept all of it hidden ever since. Interdimensional travel, time machines, teleportation, universal panacea, human cloning, alien diplomacy.
These people think all this has happened in recent human history, most of it in the last century, and that its all just being kept secret because...because they need more money.
God knows what they're going to buy with more money, since they can apparently just jump to a dimension made entirely of gold bullion and cancer cures, but whatever.
Keep in mind these are the same fuckwits who believe the worldwide Illuminati Jew NWO conspiracy litters the world with clues so crafty neckbeards can "expose" the conspiracy.
Yeah we're capable of pulling off 9/11 and God knows what else, but let's put our fucking logo on the dollar bill. Foolproof.
>>70914386
>you will never make youtube money from conspiracy theorists
>>70912320
R U A MOLTEN METAL EXPERT??????? DIDNT THINK SO!!!! SO SHUT UP WITH THIS BULLSHIT
>>70914447
>more money
power != money
>>70914555
Facepalm
>>70914447
>neuroses
"16 posts by this ID"
and counting...
>>70914341
>hundreds of individual explosives
He literally says in the video it would take very little to do a controlled demolition of WTC-7.
Typical retard, not even watching what he's attempting to discredit. He'll take vague promises that shadowy people have officially said something that supports his views, but as soon as he encounters an actual living demolition expert questioning his views he doesn't even listen to the guy's assessment.
>>70914008
fuel also would've burned up almost entirely within a few minutes. That stuff burns fast and all it served to do was ignite materials in the building itself - material that the building was definitely rated for.
That in itself pretty much obliterates the 'muh jetfuel' meme.
And it's still ignoring the fact that the steel used in the WTC still wouldn't have begun to fail for almost half a fucking day at the temperatures the official report tried to claim, yet magically it was enough to weaken and collapse the entire building within a couple hours, twice.
It's so much bullshit I'm amazed that people still believe it.
>>70914447
>this post
Jesus christ Australia, this is shitposting on another level.
>>70914745
It's not shitposting, he actually, honestly, believes the official story.
>>70914447
>booty blasted CIA shill
You better up your game if you're gonna post under this flag m80
>>70914696
upper kek
>>70914447
i totally believe this!
can't argue with reason goyim lol haha
>>70913318
I was only 9 when it happened, I remember kids at school talking about WW3 with Russia and North Korea
>>70911505
>>70911585
>mfw two of my highschool history teachers explicitly insinuated that building 7's collapse didn't make any sense, and one of them lectured us on how buildings don't collapse like they did
YOU ARE NOW AWARE PEOPLE WHO WERE THREE YEARS OLD ON 9/11 ARE NOW LEGALLY ABLE TO POST ON 4CHAN
>>70913318
I remember being 12 or 13 and my old man coming into my room hell early and saying "wake up dummy, time to see history." I think it was just after the first strike and then when the second one came it all changed and blew up big time "world changing" etc. He was a former pilot so he was obsessed with how the mudshits managed to get the flight paths right and tried over and over to fly the same route in a flight simulator and thought it stunk from the get go.
>Pull it
Why would they put explosives and destroy this random building? All WTC buildings were damaged in one way or another. Why destroy this one? If it was impossible for it to colapse just by standing near the twin towers why would they do this? Wouldn't that look suspicious? They had the JFK files there or what?
Why would they kidnap 40 people, murder them, find their decoys who would call their family then fake a catastrophe in Pennsylvania? WTC and Pentagon wasn't enough?
>>70915233
>and tried over and over to fly the same route in a flight simulator
he's probably on some watchlist now.
>>70914720
holy fuck!
"very little to demlosh a building"
with some super secret thermite explosive right?
>>70915288
It contained numerous SEC files/cases and I think also a mass of Clinton related files.
>>70914924
fuck you cunt.
you fucking Gillard butt sniffing bogan pedo
>>70915089
and did it happpen?
no
>>70915199
you fucking retard.
you remember an obscure comment from a teacher 15years on?
the power of autism
>>70915231
yup, and they speak of this false flag as if they lived it,
Google is not research
>this one Aussie so shitter shattered he's posting from multiple devices.
>>70915233
you fucking retard
it was 2001
why would they even suspect?
hindsight is fucking messin with your reality
>>70912277
that pic makes me think it would do anything BUT collapse evenly
someone even titled it "GASH MIDDLE PORTION," and that is supposed to convince everyone???
>>70915288
this
>>70915559
we had inside jobs before.
why is the truth so hard for troofers to accept?
>>70915464
>austrailia
>not remembering anything he was taught in school
Color me surprised. Also it wasn't obscure, one literally spend the whole day lecturing us on how the two main towers collapsed wrong and the other "fire" one shouldn't have collapsed at all.
>>70915365
good one fuckktard.
"huuurrr hey guys what should we do with all these SEC files?"
"Should we shred them, does them in bleach, incinerate them meticulously?"
"Nah , lets just blow the building up"
fucking retards
> /pol/ will defend this
>>70915612
involving planes flying into 4 buildings?
you fucking tard
>>70915625
>heat travels downwards
oh boy
>>70915625
because it is an escape from their pathetic mundane lives
>>70911419
New Yorker here, and in town that day. Just admit you're a victim-denier; taking away the method in which they were murdered and that they existed too. would you - when you pass away - prefer if people denied your death and existence?
>>70912571
> Fahrenheit 9/11
Sorry, I can't watch that movie. I'm from North Carolina and Michael Moore is boycotting my state.
>>70915365
What an overkill. If they wanted them destroyed they could burn them.
Over here like 70% of politicians should be hanged for their past to say nothing of the so-called moral authorities but they handled that shit years ago.
>>70915817
They did burn them.
Then they demolished the building to cover up the fact they burned them.
Is it at all possible that when the towers were hit the government rigged the first floor with explosives to ensure a controlled demolition instead of possibly damaging other towers around them. More people would have died otherwise so it seems logical, just wondering if they would have had time
>>70915900
Sounds risky. I'm glad I don't work for them. What did they do to cover up the fact they demolished the building?
>>70915900
this is next level retarded shit
>>70916006
lol
THIS!!
huurrrrr
blow up the building to cover up they burnt SEC files.
forget to coverup building demolish>>70915900
Wired for demolish the week before
Conspiracy faggots believe nobody noticed this
>>70916006
Mass media and shilling campaign to convince everyone it was done by middle eastern terrorists, simultaneously setting the stage for an invasion of Afghanistan to free the poppy fields that the Taliban had gained control of.
And once that was done, why not go whole-hog and take out some other middle eastern thorns-in-the-side under the same false pretenses?
There was a lot of money involved, not just in the insurance fraud or elimination of SEC investigations, but also in freeing the poppy fields to bring worldwide opium production back up and destroying nation states that kept the middle east stabilized.
All the while fleecing the taxpayer and getting all the war spoils.
>>70916232
dude, you're trying so hard you're blowing your cover!
>>70916330
and yet with all they money, they still GFC with countries going further in debt.
Huurrrrr.
government created false flag to invade other countries to make more money
>trillion dollars in debt.
good theory fucktard
>>70916429
Fuck!
הו חרא הם אל לי !
>>70915625
>heat travels downwards
>gets stronger as it moves away from it's source
>office material fueled fires are enough to take down a sky scraper
The WTC buildings had like a 5x redundancy factor. Even if the top part of the building was taken out by the plane + fire weakening the beams, only the top would collapse onto the bottom and nothing would have been flattened, it would have possibly slid off the top and that would have been a huge thing too. But there's no possible way a plan slamming into the top of the building can literally pulverize so many bodies and parts of the building into thin air. You need bombs for that. You also need bombs to take out that whole building.
This whole thing is a sham, now who did it is the real question.
Sandy Hook and 9/11 were both our government.
These are the same people responsible for MKUltra, you tell me they wouldn't do it. They just need a reason and evidently found one.
So people state the WT7 had offices of CIA and shit and have the mayors recluse room and the building held lots of sensitive data right. So why wouldn't the building have some sort of An hero capabilities. I'd say that it probably had the infrastructure to be demolished if the need arose, probably similar to a number of places across your country. I think that, weather to cover something up, or to take advantage of the situation for a few rich buddies, the guys in charge were like "shit; most of everything will burn, lets test the big red button" it would make securing the area easier and pretty much give the site a completely new WTC while making sure that stakeholders aren't losing anything. Also may explain why it took a lot longer to fall as you would want to get most salvageable stuff out and place stuff that needs to be destroyed in spots where it will be destroyed
>>70913171
JP5 and aluminium might melt or deform steel but they don't cause steel lattice to turn into dust and disintegrate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG57LD7lkGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M&t=3h43m45s
Here are multiple accounts of explosions by trained professionals and citizens alike.
>>70916703
it didn't pulverize bodies.
they found parts of passengers all over the city
>>70911419
its cgi. the towers are actually still there, just covered in a giant nyc colored tarp
>>70916785
almost there roofucker
one more step
>>70916922
no
they state "it SOUNDS like explosions"
my cat just yawned, it sounded like a chicken clucking.
my cat must be a chicken
>>70916936
It did pulverize bodies though.
>>70917009
No, watch the witnesses explain it. The lobby(that means FIRST FLOOR) was exploded before the building even collapsed. You can't explain that even with the finest tier of shitposting, Australia.
>>70916829
holy shit you are retarded.
it collapsed!!! it didn't disintegrate.
>>70917074
holy fuck you are retarded
>>70917164
You can do better.
>>70916922
>democracy now
Ok now I know why my lecturer believed this conspiracy. He would always advertise Democracy Now on any topic like protests in Ferguson.
>>70917177
That's quite a fire. look at those core columns glow like they're ready to buckle
>>70917236
their world is changing.
>>70917236
>"It's Spider-Man"
>>70911419
>Naudet Brothers RAW_AND_UNEDITED_medium.mp4
>>70917079
>it collapsed!!! it didn't disintegrate.
>>70911585
>>70911585
Yes my fdreinds surly sand people were capable of this
>>70917259
I have no idea what you're talking about but it sounds like a non-argument.
>>70917459
strange that it entered the building with no major impact 'recoil'
>>70917453
Totally unrelated. Fucking hated him.
>>70917424
like playing Jenga
>this is the only footage released of the impact
>the impact of a plane into one of the most heavily monitored buildings on earth
>>70912603
You don't know shit about the whole story. Everybody, strictly everybody fucked up during 9/11. Incredibly enough, officials in charge were all promoted after 9/11. Coincidence?
Watch: 9/11, a new Pearl Harbour on youtube.
9/11 conspiracies are impossible to talk about.
I want to see the facts and decide what to think for myself, instead there's just an endless stream of misinfo, people calling eachother shills, people going ''oh god, you people actually believe in CONSPIRACIES lol?'' etc.
>that baby is nearly old enough to post here
>>70917177
this guy in the picture iron man or something ?
>>70913401
>Also you have no clue who a demolition is prepared.
bird brained drunkard.
can only type abo pidgin.
>>70917624
it wasnt in 2001 fucktard
>jet fuel can't melt steal beams meme unironically posted over and over again by delusional neckbeards
>conveniently overlook the fact the ~35000 litre payload of fuel was delivered by a plane weighing around 170000kg travelling at 170 metres per second
>b-but it was a perfectly orchestrated inside job conducted and then kept in perfect secrecy by hundreds of individuals, none of whom ever left any evidence behind to suggest a cover up!
truthers really need to fucking kill themselves
You idiots do realize that all WTC buildings were part of a complex with shared underground levels right?
It wasnt just a bunch of buildings on a concrete slab.
Try having one of the rooms in your house burn for hours and then collapse into the basement without affecting any other room in the house at all
>>70917679
this is pretty apt. There is so much info that the only thing I can say for sure now is that the Bush administration had foreknowledge and either purposely or accidentally didn't act upon it. I'm definitely open to other ideas though.
>>70917679
Here you can watch witnesses talk about their first hand experiences. It's worth tons more than anything some shitposting aussie could ever tell you on here.
Honestly I'd advise you to watch the whole documentary even though it's a daunting task, it's split into 3 sections so you could always set aside 1 1/2 hours each part. If you really can't be assed then I'd suggest watching part 3 above the first and second part.
>>70917679
>>70916922
forgot to link
>>70917763
u wot
>>70911627
>>70912277 >>70912780
the towers fell pretty much straight down. how would they damage a building to the point of collapse with how they fell? why was wtc7 the only big building to fall when others were in the same radius
>>70913858
weak trole
>>70915625
But anon, if heat traveled downward stuff like ballooning couldn't float.
>>70912780
>half of it was destryed when noth tower fell on it.
Classic straya trolling.
WTC7 was so far away only its facade was damaged, and only in a shallow, uneven way. Which then somehow produced a total, symmetric collapse.
Nothing weird.
And the WTC buildings who were closer to the towers and were ACTUALLY seriously damaged by their collapse, didn't have a single total collapse.
Nothing weird.
And 3 weeks later, the WTC7 area was still 800 C° hot.
Nothing weird.
Ernest Armstead, paramedic:
>I think of her as the living dead. I talked to the living dead. And I lied to the living dead. I told her to hang on, that help was coming. But I pronounced her dead in my mind. And she knew that. I put a black tag with a small white cross around her neck. And as best she could, she gave me hell for it. The psychiatrists and those from the post-trauma team say it is good for me to talk about her and the rest of that day. They say it is the only way I will come to terms with what happened and finally free my mind of her. So here I am talking to you.
>This lady was among a half-dozen people I saw who probably fell a thousand feet or so when American Airlines Flight 11 crashed into the World Trade Center. I am not sure how she got on the plaza. Maybe she was on her way to Los Angeles and was ejected from the jet by the force of the collision. Or maybe she was an office worker in the tower sitting near one of the windows and she was swept away when the building caved around her. Or maybe she was trapped and jumped to escape the flames, though I don't think so. I happened upon her even before most of those people were seen jumping.
>She was an elegant lady. About my age, early fifties. I could see that even with all that she had been through. I could tell that she had her hair done up very nicely. Brunette. She had on tasteful earrings. She was wearing pretty makeup. And in my profession you notice clothes because so often you have to cut them into pieces to save lives. That was the first thing that came to mind: This lady is well dressed....
>Triage is the first thing that should be done at a disaster like this. It basically means dividing the injured into four categories so that backup medical teams can move quickly in and give treatment to those who need it most urgently. The categories are indicated by colored tags that are hung around the injured person's neck.
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http://youtu.be/RAAztWC5sT8
If you want to know the truth watch this vid. Lots of kikes behind it which is no surprise really
>>70918081
Hot gasses rise. Conductive heat can travel downwards.
>That certainly is what I was thinking when I met the lady in the plaza, the big open space between the two towers that had a fountain ad a round sculpture in the middle. I had finished tagging everyone from the stairwells, when I turned to face the plaza.
>I saw something that was so horrific that I am glad I missed it the first time around. When the plane hit, an incredible amount of debris from the collision rained down on the plaza. Most of it was chunks of airplane and building that had little meaning to me. But amid the destruction, there were a half dozen or so people, I ran toward them, my triage tags in hand. There was a man having a seizure and his eyes were rolling into the back of his head. He had struck the pavement so hard that there was virtually nothing else left of him. There were a couple others that I never got to, but I could see from a short distance that they were dead. And then there was the lady with the nice hairdo and earrings.
>When I got to her, I ripped out a black tag. What impressed me -- and scared me -- was that she was alert and was watching what I was doing. I put the tag around her neck and she looked at me and said, "I am not dead. Call my daughter. I am not dead." I was so startled that for a split second I was speechless. "Ma'am," I said, "don't worry about it. We will be right back to you." That was a lie. She couldn't see what I could see. Somehow, I guess it was an air draft or something, her fall had been cushioned enough so that she didn't splatter like the others. Still her body was so twisted and torn apart that I could only ask myself, Why is this lady still alive and talking to me? How can this be? Her right lung, shoulder and head were intact, but from the diaphragm down she was unrecognizable. Yet she was lucid enough that she continued to argue with me. "I am not dead," she insisted again. I am convinced she had some medical training because she knew I had given her the black mark of death. And she resented it
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>"Don't worry about what I put around your neck," I told her. "My coworkers are coming right now. They're going to take care of you."
>I knew I had to keep going, but she had so deeply shaken me that I lingered for a second or two. Then I stepped over her to get to the others. I put a black tag on the man having the seizure. But another wave of casualties arrived in the lobby from upstairs, so I needed to return. As I headed back, I stepped over the lady one more time. And as eerie and unsettling as our first encounter had been, the second was even worse. She started yelling at me.
>"I am not dead! I am not dead!"
>"They're coming, they're coming," I replied without stopping.
>"I am not dead! I am not dead!"
>I can honestly say that I didn't fear death, though I walked for hours in a wretched place I can only describe with a biblical reference -- "the valley of the shadow of death." I felt death, I heard it, I saw it and I smelled it. And with that lady in the plaza, I even talked to it.
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http://www.deuceofclubs.com/books/160_sep11.htm
>>70912487
It's okay. Sometimes buildings just fall down when other buildings fall.
Like how often do they come down in America? Not that often. Maybe the WTC7 building just didn't want to be lonely and decided to sudoko at the time of his bros deaths.
It makes sense if you don't think about it, stop thinking about it.
Crazy conspirator nut jobs.
Just accept the stories they tell you.
Thinking is bad.
text book shilling ITT
it's always fascinating to see them in action
take notes goyim
>>70918089
>800 C° hot
Micronukes in the basements of towers 1,2 and 6. All the gold was removed beforehand to fund the holy oil crusades. Tower 7 was command and control and removed at the the end of the day with a classic controlled demolition.
Truth be told, the entire complex had to go because it was loaded with asbestos. Too bad every constitution in the west had to go with the complex just because the designers thought asbestos was the greatest thing since sliced bread. You could have flown airliners into those towers all day and they still would have stood for 1000 years. The powers that be relied heavily on mass cognitive dissonance but had to kill any talk of nuking civilians at all costs, but believe your eyes, just look at the complete vaporization of WTC 1 and 2, most of the towers were turned to dust, left smoldering molten craters lol.
Thinking about the 3000 dead white Americans gives me a boner
>>70917935
no they didnt retard, the top floors toppled
>>70917177
what an attention whore ffs
>>70917258
CARL
Why didn't the 9/11 people just hug the columns and slide down on them like in my pic?
>>70911627
>...we decided to pull it...
Larry Silverstein
>>70918152
>>70918250
>>70918314
Jeez. I really hope this is fake.
>>70918999
Not how that works pal
>>70918516
REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE THIS ON /POL/ WHEN YOU SEE A RETARTED ARGUMENT.
>>70918999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIq75vL-Cew
he didn't climb so good
>>70918314
>let the bodies hit the floor
t. globalist cabal
>>70919144
it could be, I mean the chances of even just two people surviving such a fall at the same time are pretty slim even just momentarily, but I've seen the guy mentioned in CNN articles and stuff from 2002-2004ish.
>>70912490
Empire unmasked.
http://www.ancreport.com/blog/the-empire-unmasked-on-the-joe-rogan-experience/
Anything else isn't worth your time.
Except the earlier version War by deception which isn't as detailed but is free
>>70912603
This falls apart due to Cheney ordering the interceptor plane trailing the plane that hit the Pentagon to continue to stand down.
The anthrax attacks also deconstruct the idea that is was mere incompetence.
>>70917459
All these angles make it look absolutely devastating.
Here's a better perspective...
Its ridiculous to believe the plane crashes caused the collapse of these two enormous building. There was zero structural damage to the building two floors down from where the planes hit. That means there still was 76 completely unscathed and structurally rigid floors on one tower and a staggering 92 on the other.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING WAY FOR A BUILDING TO COLLAPSE INWARDS ON ITSELF WITHOUT THE USE OF EXPLOSIVES. A more natural intuitive collapse for the towers would've been that they would've lurched from the crash site upwards AND in the event of catastrophic structural failure ( which is still highly unrealistic given the sheer size of a WTC tower) the lurched top portion of the tower would've 'bend' at the crashsite and causes it to start tumbling.
>>70911585
when the designors specifically said "we built them to withstand this kind of attack",
and n one bats an eyelid
>>70919853
heresay
>>70915808
That's some loopy logic, Hymie.
>>70915808
i dont think anyone dosent have compassion for the victims its just strange how it happend
>>70919894
I believe they were designed to withstand 747s, not 767s, but yeah I'm not sure why the designers of the towers specifically designed them for airline impacts, and then in the aftermath of 9/11 the American government kept saying that "nobody had any idea airplanes would be used as missiles against buildings!"
>>70911585
>>70919853
How about this fucking falls apart because of three collapsing towers for no good reason?
I mean... that's pretty fucking big elephant in the room
>>70918999
Real people ain't Spiderman, pally.
>>70919853
Also the forced deportation of many many 9/11 suspects from the country so they would no longer be under FBI jurisdiction and under the CIA jurisdiction is also a massive red flag.
With such wonderful gems of quotes as "we need to get these people out of the country before they spill the beans".
Here's a question: what purpose does demolishing building 7 serve? Assuming that everything the conspiracies say is true and that this was a false flag operation, why would they bother to hit building seven? The WTC had already been hit, and so had the Pentagon. United 93 already happened, too.
So... why building seven, which neither gives an awesome heroic story like United 93 or an image that is recognizable to Americans like the WTC or the Pentagon?
I don't like the government, so I'd like to be convinced. I'm legitimately interested.
>>70915694
where are the stars?
oh wait, it was daytime when they took the shot.
ok, I get it.
Why don't have skyscrapers have ladders on the side and emergency parachutes on the upper floors? Even my flat's building has the former.
>747s not 767s
>>70920149
Doesn't really matter all that much...
Amerifats fucking hate 9/11 threads on /pol/. It normally takes a huge effort to get any kind of meaningful discussion underway without these obese faggots shitting up every thread.
They know their gubbermint did this but want to pretend they live in some free country, the best place on earth. Forget thew jews did 9/11, it was the american government first, then the american public covered it up in their shame.
>>70920387
It exclusively contained government offices. The third plane crashed in the field, so they had to go ahead and detonate the thermite charges without the plane hitting it.
>>70920455
>americhubs
>ladders
imagine burning alive while trying to overtake a fatty on a ladder
>>70920387
There were documents in there that needed to be destroyed
>United 93
>>70920387
Ow yeah... this gem
wait for it......
>>70920455
because nignogs would climb up the ladders and steal and rape.
>>70920455
Could you imagine climbing down 104 stories of ladders and fire escapes?
>>70920587
>It exclusively contained government offices.
Most of it was Salomon Smith Barney
>>70920635
MH17 crash for comparison
If people still believe any of the 'official' story... im sorry man, those people can't be helped. They flat out refuse to look at this objectively.
>>70920725
can you imagine falling 100+ stories to your death because it was either that or die of fire and smoke inhalation?
>>70920286
>three collapsing towers for no good reason?
15 years of bickering over endless and meaningless minutiae of how the buildings fell isn't going anywhere and isn't that important.
If someone burns down your house do you spend all your time finding out if the arsonist used kerosene or gasoline or do you spend all you effort trying to find out who burnt your house down?
Motive
Means
Opportunity. And who had these.
The whole "buildings fell to fast" discussion is just a massive red herring that is making it so much more important questions aren't being asked.
Like
Why were several Israeli mossad front companies arrested with fake passes to the basement levels of the towers to do "work on the sprinkler systems" (which failed in both towers that day BTW) a week before the attack?
Why were there several vans pulled over that were owned by an Israeli mossad front company one of which was filled with high explosives?
How did the hijackers avoid every attempt at wiretapping by the FBI?
Why were all of these key suspects deported out of the country so they wouldn't face FBI questioning?
This is just a very small few and there more all of which is explained in explicit detail and documentation provided for it in
>>70919746
Do us all a favor and stop bickering over kerosene or gasoline and start asking who the arsonists were
>>70920822
I'm not arguing with you, that isn't what I said.
>>70920863
>isn't that important.
>>70920866
>gayjew
>>70921097
What? I wasn't disagreeing with him. How hard is that to understand?
>>70921224
Its your ID
>>70917891
We all agree that there is a big penis?
>>70917236
ssshhhhiiiieeeettt.
>>70920387
United 93s destination was new York.
Both it's flight vector and speed would have had it hitting WTC 7 shortly before its collapse.
>>70920635
Faggots like this are directing away from actual important questions and instead are using cherrypuced pictures that demonstrate their ignorance of how planes crash.
Ironically his posting of a plane thag was actually shot down entirely debunked the idea that it was shot down due to the clear difference of debris feilds.
The reason flight 93s debris feild is so concentrated is because it took a nose dive directly into the ground.
It wasn't trying to land
It wasn't shot down both of which create extremely large debris feilds.
It flew straight down into the ground.
Also over 95% of the plane was recovered and reconstructed.
The two big questions are what I already mentioned.
Where was that plane going(the official story says it was headed for the capital building despite what I already mentioned)?
And the real big one.
The official story says that Muhammad Atta the ring leader State side was on that plane flying it.
But he is nowhere to be heard on any of the flight data recordings despite every other hijacker being on there.
>>70920635
>>70920778
Do us all a favor and stop repeating disinformation spewed from charlatans which just poisons the well and causes people to dismiss serious inquiries and evidence as well.
There is having an open mind and then there is having a mind so open your brain falls out and idiots that repeat propaganda that uses a couple of cherrypicked images and massive unfounded power of suggestion tactics does no one except the perpetrators of this crime favors
>The reason flight 93s debris feild is so concentrated is because it took a nose dive directly into the ground.
>>70921500
Bro..broo..stop trying man.
Not sure why you're laying so much shill into motives and suspects.
>>70920918
>everything I said
>your head
Do yourself and everyone else a favor and leave the thread
Watch this fairly short breakdown of some of the evidence explained i n the film I linked and come back when you've digested it
These are the extremely important and damning things that have zero wiggle room to argue against which makes it infinitely more important than endlessly arguing over the minutiae of the towers which not only gets nowhere but keeps us from presenting evidence which stands on its own and makes "muh towers fell to fast" unneeded entirely.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QphxGBXiA-M
>>70911419
also building 6
nevar forget
>Pull it
>>70921500
>Both it's flight vector and speed would have had it hitting WTC 7 shortly before its collapse.
7 hours to fly from PA to lower Manhattan?
>>70911543
this
>>70917258
are you kidding me?
>>70912320
That's part of the plane burning dumb fuck
>>70921744
>continues to further my point by spreading cherrypicked images and sloppy Photoshop with nothing more than empty power of suggestion which came from sources that are known disinformation places.
>has the guile to call others shills.
>motives and suspects.
Gee it's almost like finding out who did this is what's important
>hey goyim don't worry about whondid this here are some videos suggesting there weren't even planes at all a missile hit the Pentagon and the towers were brought down through dustification.
>just ignore all of the Israeli fingerprints and mossad agents all over the place as well as the CIA and men like Michael chertoff covering for 9/11 suspects
BTW
Guess what?
A plane that dives nose first doesn't create a crater as deep as the plane.
A basic physics 101 course will tell you this.
>>70920455
>>70920822
I have learned that the new safety code essentially requires a fire-safe, reinforced vertical stairway through the building in case of an emergency. They are inside the building.
I've been in them before but I didn't realize they were designed almost exclusively to act as a fire escape. They're the standard way to travel up a tall building but I guess there is a reason they are so cold and ugly.
Big enough buildings get multiple of them and wider stairs and doors.
>>70921751
Oke, so you're definitely shilling towards a "Whom" not "what" narrative. Completely laying aside the very real skepticism on WHAT actually happend on 11 september 2001.
I'm merely arguing, and pretty convincingly if i say so myself, that the towers didn't collapse due to the plane cashes and that what crashed in Shanksville most certainly wasn't a 757.
Straight from the lease holders mouth... the fire department demolished the building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq-0JIR38V0
>>70922202
>Gee it's almost like finding out who did this is what's important
But Sherlock, If the buildings where rigged to explode wouldn't that kinda force us to reevaluate who could've possibly been behind this attack on US soil? New York no less.
BUT S-STEEL BEAMS
HOLOGRAMS
CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
MUH BLURRY PICTURES
Fucking mouth breathing morons.
>>70922809
(you)
>>70922321
>Oke, so you're definitely shilling towards a "Whom" not "what" narrative. Completely laying aside the very real skepticism on WHAT actually happend on 11 september 2001.
Again
Whtvis more important.
Who burned your house down?
Or if they used gas or kerosene?
>and that what crashed in Shanksville most certainly wasn't a 757.
Never mind that over 95% of flight 93 was recovered as was the DNA of nearly everyone on board the flight recorder etc etc etc.
The idea that it wasn't 93 originated by the lose Change morons who only gained notoriety due to Alex Jones who is a known charlatan and it serves to distract from that little detail of the head hijacker who was supposed to be on that flight was absolutely not on that flight.
Just because it is "in the official story" doesn't default make it untrue.
In fact many well poisoning theories get more wrong than the official story such as Simon shack's shit which says there were no planes and it was all holograms.
Or Judy woods who says the towers where brought down by some kind of space weapon.
What you do by repeating easily debunked shit like "93 wasn't in shanksville" that anyone can look up and see is false they think immediately "oh he is one of those retards" and it just makes it that much harder for people that bring up verifiable real evidence to reach people because they are automatically associated with retards.
Tell me.
Has the last 15 years of bickering over how the towers fell brought the perpetrators into any sort of spot light?
>>70911419
>>70911585
>it sure would be nice to get that fuckhuge insurance policy on these two shitty towers and simultaneously remove the dangerous information hidden away in the tower right next to those shitty towers while also giving a reason to invade the middle east and guarantee my friends and me even fuckhuger amounts of money from the oil fields there...
>>70922809
