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https://www.verizon.com/about/news/senator-sanders-needs-get-his-facts-straight
>At a speech last night at the University of Buffalo, Sen. Bernie Sanders said, "Over the years Verizon has made billions of dollars in profit, but in a given year has not paid a nickel in taxes." Sen. Sanders is dead wrong on this issue
>Verizon complies with all tax laws and pays the taxes it owes under the law. In 2015, that amounted to $8.445 billion.
>>70896727
jeez, how the heck does a trillion dollar company only have to pay 8k in taxes? vote for bernie down with the 1%
>>70896727
>net of amounts REFUNDED
very sneaky wording
>>70896840
Do they teach reading comprehension up there, leaf? It means nominal taxes were even higher
>>70896834
>dollars in millions
>1k= 1,000,000,000
You fucktard
>>70896834
AMERICAN....
>>70896727
You guys realize this just galvanizes his base, right? It's exactly the same as when the MSM shits on Trump.
There's not a Bernie supporter in the world who gives a flying fuck what the CEO of Verizon has to say.
>>70896906
That was said? How do you know this? Why does it matter? Nominal rates are not "income taxes"? They are saying they paid and were returned massive refunds. Nominal means "a rate" or "a number". That is a NET. Or a total. So encompassing everything, before, during, and afterwards. Whoops. Looks like you're the retard
>>70896840
What?
>>70897152
They are saying they were refunded those amounts. They didn't pay diddly after it was all said and done
>>70896840
It's probably about estimated taxes paid were higher than the actual tax amount.
>>70897320
So a shell game of lies basically. I think it means nothing but "here are our refunds. We will call them tax payments and to hell with you for not figuring out our legalese"
>>70897399
I don't know how it works in Canada, but in the US everyone must pay 100% of previous years tax amount in advance, or 90% of the current year's tax in advance. So having refunds aren't abnormal.
>>70897498
Up here taxes come off each cheque and then you do your filing once a year before the end of the first quarter to assess your entire last year. Refund if you paid too much with credits. Another payment if you were under. It doesn't matter when you need to or how much you need to claim. Calling refunds payments is disingenuous
>>70896727
http://standuptoverizon.com/taxes/
>>70896727
This probably includes the income tax that comes out of your individual paycheck. e.g. your personal taxes.
It also probably includes FCC crap like e-911 and other franchise taxes.
>>70896727
Got nothing to say?
>>70896727
but they took at least a 100 million in subsidies
http://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/prog.php?parent=verizon-communications
>>70897896
Looks like that's the reason the table only starts in 2013. It's pretty obvious that Verizon is up to tax trickery when they have multiple companies under the Verizon name and their taxes paid somehow doubles in a period of two years
>>70898157
Yeah. They got practically no refunds in 2013 and then it's easy to rake in refunds
>>70898138
one and a half billion bailout
3 1/2 million for a billionaire ?
>>70898952
trump has more than one company.
retard.
>>70899575
so whats your point?
>>70896834
Idiot. Go eat a burger, watch your mom fuck a nigger and get out of this forum.
>>70896727
I don't understand what "income taxes, net of amounts refunded" means. And for "employment taxes", are they counting the income tax their individual employees have to pay?
I'm not sure who is jewing who here.
some of these are every year. they talk about austerity, can't do nothing about the water, cuts for schools and social programs and they have all these gifts for the richest corporations/people in the world
what ever happened to every man for themselves?
>>70896920
>>70897006
>>70900030
>American
>Can't handle bantz
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Wow, you almost never see big companies making statements like that.
Verizon for president 2016
>>70896834
Now I just feel sorry for you.
>>70900030
>>70896920
>>70897006
newfags eating the bait right up
We are lucky anyone does business in this fucking country.
Sanders is damn fool that would be the head of another great recession if elected.
These politicians just don't have a damn clue.
>>70896840
Income taxes paid - refunds received = tax net of refund
>>70896727
He was wrong about Verizon, but companies like Google, Facebook, GE, GM, etc, get away with paying next to no taxes because they're butt buddies with the Obama regime. Didn't the Obama family use the fucking Google corporate plane to go on yet another tax-payer funded vacation recently?
The corruption and tax dodging is real, but Bernie's plan to fix it is the opposite of what should be done. The problem is caused by government having too much power, and that they can be bought. Increasing the power of the government to stop tax cheating companies that are only able to get away with cheating because they are in bed with big govt is retarded. More taxes will just rape the small businesses which provide the majority of jobs in this country, and a majority of which the owners are not rich, not even millionaires. That's who gets hurt by Bernie's tax plan, not the rich.
>>70897195
As an accountant I can tell you you're a retard
>>70896834
Kek, make sure you visibly put your /s
>>70900611
The problem is caused by government having too much power
>>70899691
more companies means trump organization isn't the only thing he's getting taxed on.
>>70898138
>moving the goalpost
I agree bailouts are stupid, but thats not the fact in question.
>>70900869
so? this one got over 3 million taxpayer dollars
>>70898952
>>70899415
Virtually every major company gets subsidies from state and local governments, directly or indirectly, whenever they build something that creates jobs. At the local level, it's often discounts on property taxes for a certain number of years and special bond financing. At the state level it's usually enterprise zone tax credits and sales tax discounts. Learn what your local economic development agency does and don't be a retard.
>>70901147
so if they charge too much for jobs you may have to starve? wtf?
>>70901098
Oh shit, I thought that was tax, not subsidy.
>>70901147
maybe they should ask for free drinks and blowjobs
>>70896727
>2015 Operating income: $33,060 million
>2015 income taxes paid: $5,293 million
>Effective rate: 16%
>Corporate tax rate: 20%
Corporate shills will defend this
http://www.verizon.com/about/sites/default/files/annual/verizon-annual-2015/downloads/15_vz_ar.pdf
>>70901358
too
Bernie responded and basically said "ha ha I dont want your support lol". I get that some companies are dodgy as fuck, but fuck Bernie. This is a baseless claim.
>>70896727
Can we verify that verizon isn't just lying?
>>70900825
That's what I said isn't it? If they have too much power its a larger problem when they can be bought so easily. Reagan was interventionist as fuck, hardly an example of small government conservatism.
>>70901539
Not really, we would have to rely on the IRS to be honest.. And since they've basically become a political enforcement arm of the Obama regime along with their tax collecting duties, that is doubtful.
>>70901590
>>70901551
so just down size the government and the problem will go away?
corporations will be honest?
anyone here own a farm?
>>70900728
>>>/leddit/
>>70901590
Jesus fucking christ. I just can't.
>>70901772
That's not what I said. I clearly said the other part of the problem is how easy it is to buy politicians. If the government is smaller at least they won't have SO MUCH power when they can buy politicians. It's a good step to take on the way to campaign finance reform.
inverted capitalism
>>70902081
>>70901590
Epic shoop
>>70901590
>Trump makes completely accurate statement
>"pants on fire" for some inane reason
>Bernie makes completely false statement
>"Mostly true" with some tongue-in-cheek faggotry
I hate Politifact.
same shit up here, and it ain't gonna change until it changes down down there
actually everywhere uk greece italy everywhere
>>70902360
>>70902458
Oops did I get inspect-element troll'd?
:^(
>>70902298
s-sauce?
they take the risks, that's why the make the big bucks?
>>70896727
why are you so quick to believe verizon before fact checking their claim?
>>70896727
Bernie voters don't care about facts even it slaps them in the face over and over.
They just dismiss them and move on like the kike has never told a lie and is not manipulating them.
Anyway we want to push this fucker through because he is easy pickings and at the same time we want a fissure between Hillary and him so his voters get mad when Hillary closes him out by some backroom deal much like the RNC is trying to do.
>>70903270
And Trumpfags don't care about his Israel agenda
because it worked out so well in 2008
now they're coming for your savings/retirement money
and if you thought this guy might be the savior
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/22/matt_taibbi_why_isnt_wall_street
>>70901772
>so just down size the government and the problem will go away
Yes that's exactly right
>>70904110
I don't go to reddit. I've known some of this shit for years.
I used to have a twitter but I told the truth to our pm when he was talking to some ukrainian official and twitter closed all my accounts
>>70900576
>>70900651
>this man gets paid legitimate currency as an "accountant"!!!
Jesus Christ.
>DURR I WILL REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID AND THEN MAKE FUN OF YOU FOR IT
>Refunds are refunds
Yes I know. Thanks.
>Refunds means what? They they paid any tax? Or something else?
The fuck are you on about? Verizon fucked up. I caught it. Nobody has explained to me anything about that, only questioned it more. And you think you are better at this because you claim it is your profession. 20 trillion in debt is nothing. It's my fault, not theirs. Durrrr
>>70904234
halfwit>>70903713
some people may have to find out the hard way
too bad they have to take us all down with them
>>70904380
not an argument
>>70904474
Im not arguing with you, I don't care.
what happens if Im right?
the system will die sooner or later
the sooner the better
>>70901276
It's a screwy system at the local and state (or provincial) level because all of the towns and states are in competition for, at least in the short term, a finite number of jobs. The supply side logic is also that making business less expensive will cause companies to hire more people. The result is that governments hand out sweeteners to preferred industries figuring that the subsidy will be less that the total benefit generated by a new office or plant coming into town. In practice, smart companies hire site selection consultants who then pit locations against each order to extract the maximum amount of revenue. The end result is that there are more jobs for the winners in this competition, but it comes at the expense of other locations and lost tax revenue. Some of the more cynical types refer to this being a prisoner's dilemma situation that actually hurts the economy as a whole because of the distortions created.
>>70904615
capitalism runs outta other peoples money
again
>>70896834
I Leled at least. Good job
>>70904708
I know, a race to the bottom.
thing is it's buying jobs or bribes for jobs
it's too expensive
everyone has to live in poverty so we have jobs?
>>70904714
you don't even know what you are saying m8, literally not an argument.
>>70904866
ok im not going to argue
you probably didn't even know until just now but you're the expert
don't forget, they're privatizing everything too
so pretty soon you may have to move offshore if you can't afford the rent
>>70904312
what are you getting at? are you saying virizion employees dont deserve tax refunds or something
>>70905447
I'm not needed here you are all far too idiotic
>>70896727
>even dignifying Sanders with a response
The guy is a complete hack, just aping whatever provocative and blatantly false shit he can to rile up his supporters and make himself out to be their messiah.
>>70903500
btw, if it comes true and everyone gets ripped off again, shouldn't we do something about these moron republican voters?
>>70900825
>it totally happened, my friend said so :^)
>Republican think tank magically controls the budget during the Reagan years, never-mind the Democrat controlled Congress
'dumb plebs voting against their own economic interest' is one of the most annoying and tired liberal memes around
>>70906119
https://beta.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/2011/08/12/apocalyptic_crisis_budgeting.html
https://legacy.wlu.ca/homepage.php?grp_id=2481&f_id=35
call him idiot
