So I encountered a person recently that was an advocate of the Zeitgeist Movement. I asked him to give me some info on it and he pretty much said that it's main goal is to implement a resource based economy where abundance, and not scarcity, would come about. However, the more he got into it, the more socialist and collectivist it sounded. So /pol/, redpill me on this. Is this just repackaged socialism?
>>70896176
no, it's even worse. it's mental retardation since it's never going to happen.
move on..
>>70896176
yep, just socialism but a little bit more edgy, and kinda like a cult.
Any utilitarian belief system that involves keeping as many people alive as possible is inherently flawed.
>>70896176
It's repackaged forgot to take my anti-psychotics
It's tin foil m8
>>70896176
I bought into this garbage for a year or so in high school.
It's communism without calling itself as such. It's fucking garbage.
>>70896244
as always fpbp
Is there any greater bullshit kino than this?
>>70896176
the zeitgeist movie was good. everything after that, including any views Peter Joseph espouses, are utter dogshit. He is a techno-communist and a retard, just watch his "debate" with stefan if you want to see for yourself.
>>70896551
Link?
Peter Joseph is a yammering pedantic prick. But hes right about a lot of things. With advances in automation the labor market will collapse and it will start producing for humanity, resources being its common heritage.
Its scientifically redpilled a.f
>first zeitgeist got released almost 9 years ago
Time flies m8s
First movie serves as a good baby's first redpill, since eventually you'll debunk it yourself.
The trilogy is shit though.
>>70896797
how does the cruise-liner turn around to leave?
zeitgeist was the conspiratorial folks answer to bush's neoconservatism not understanding what the true problem was
>>70896176
>So I encountered a person recently that was an advocate of the Zeitgeist Movement
Wait, that's still a thing?
It's socialism meets the new age/theosophy.
>>70896176
holy shit is it 2009 again
some good things but the guy goes off into some new age hippy-commie bullshit as the answer to our problems.
another example of doing a good job pointing out the problems but terrible on how to fix them.
The ideas are good but to put it in practice you need a non religious racially homogeneous population with 130+ average IQ which is not going to happen in the next 1000 years
>>70896176
Though I found the first movie to be kinda interesting because of the research and background they did in global topics, at the end it still looks to me like a pseudo red-pilled movement looking for some kind of utopic socialism.
>letrashman.jpg
Automation can never make a better product or make it with fewer resources. It can only make products worse with each iteration without intervention.
You can't meet the customer's expectation in the benefit of the product by confusing the operational model with the tools it uses.
It is magical thinking to think that machines will ever replace people.
It is equally magical thinking to believe there is a narrative called a "red pill" that has all the answers. You just replace one dogma with another.
Transcend the dogma, and stop confusing socialism with organization.
>>70896176
>>70896551
The whole Zeitgeist thing is a red herring. The part 2 and on turn into outright lies.
>>70897442
It just sinks after everyone gets off. You cannot leave the island.
>>70896176
Sourceless navel gazing. The film just doles out what ifs, does some fantastic mental gymnastics, and is ultimately what you have to do to make socialism appealing.
>>70896176
Just watch to movie faggot, its a dictators wet dream.
Its like North Korea but where you get anally raped by robots daily.
>>70896176
It took me a few years to watch it...
I was intrigued by so many other things.
Im a movie buff. Its worth a watch. Its 3 conspiracy stories if i can recall.
I guarantee most of these kids giving their input havent even seen it, yet alone they arent over 17, they dont have concept of culture, knowledge of history, religion etc. It takes life long experience to absorb that stuff. Brushed off by dumb and dumber very easily.
>>70896176
dont follow cults/ideologies/systems/weird man clubs and such, rule 1 of life
entire doc was based on jordan maxwell stuff, who is interesting but repetitive person and money thing is eustace mullins/ezra pound(accusers of merchants). doc maker made his fame with it and is trying to capitalize on it.
