Should Poland have returned Danzig?
>>70845294
YES!
>>70845416
Just kinda realized how uk/france went to war over a city reverting back to its original owner when at the end of the war half of europe was annexed by the most brutal regime in history.
>>70845294
Nie kurwa, Gdańsk jest Polskie.
No.
Return it, so that Germany could fill it with mudslimes? Kek.
They would fill it with T*rks and refugee trash, East Prussia needs to stay Polish.
>>70845416
Niemcy pls go
>>70845986
This. Polish heritage and culture is more noble than the Szwabski heritage and culture.
>>70845294
Gdansk is rightful Polish soil.
>>70845294
its more polisch then german. no.
>>70846245
>>70845294
no, preserve its culture and architecture. don't allow germans to cuck it.
All German clay should be returned, but at the moment Germany is cucked and Poland isn't, so it's best that they take care of the land until VIERTES REICH.
>>70846587
agreed
>>70845294
Yes. Commie Jew "Poles" killing ethnic Germans in the Danzig Corridor is the reason why Hitler invaded Poland in the first place.
>>70845294
Giving back implies, that it was their to begin with. It wasn't. The question is - should we have given it up and joint the anti-komintern pact. Probably. Hitler actually wanted to - in return - give Poland Ukraine, once the Soviet Union was demolished. Fair trade to be honest.
However, Hitler was at that time considered to be a compulsive liar. And it seemed a better idea to make a deal with the Brits.
>>70846780
The retardation is strong with this one.
>>70846780
>Commies
>In 2nd RP
>That have concentration camp for them
>>70846587
Gdansk isn't German clay. Prussia never reclaimed all Reich soil, and thus were an illegitimate Reich. The land they held is not German land.
it's a compensation for German crimes
>>70847508
Poles didn't make a deal with the brits, the brits/french put their foot down for self interest.
>>70845294
I'd say just make Prussia its own nation, kinda like a third option to end German polish shit shows of >muh dan-gdasnk
>>70848131
So HRE when?
>>70846587
Please, go fuck yourself. >>70846322
>>70848161
fuck off, slavoj, hitler did literally nothing wrong
No, Gdaňsk was rightfull German toil.
>>70848706
Sudeten
>>70845294
Right of conquest.
>>70848608
I disagree
half of north Italy is Swiss clay. did we ever get it back? no. so fuck no to return Danzig.
>>70848395
Never, if Merkel has anything to say about it.
>>70845294
Why the fuck would they get it back? Right of conquest mean anything?
Should we return Quebec to France?
The fuck are you smoking?
Yes.
Danzig, Breslau und Stettin sind deutsche Städte wie Berlin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmPvm3C-qJs
(link blocked in eurocuck countries)
>>70845294
back in the hitler days- yes, not because it was righfully germans, but because we werent in a position to resist germany, today? nope, we probably could rape germany in 4 weeks :^)
>>70845682
GB and France went to war because Germany because they invaded all of Poland. even then there was a long build up which forced the Allies to give Hitler an ultimatum.
>>70845821
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>70845294
Well, I would have done it if the Germans agreed to protect my eastern border against the gommies.
>>70845682
So it has more or less been German since 1793?
Härjedalen and Jämtland have been Swedish since 1645. Bohuslän since 1658.
Give it back?
>>70848913
>berlin
>deutsch
eher türkisch
Germany can't have Danzig/Gdańsk now. So many white people, almost zero kebab, jamal, nigger. This city just isn't german enourh anymore
>>70845986
Germany wouldn't be cuck central if the Allies hadn't shit bricks over the demand of Germany for Danzig to be returned.
>>70846322
So it has more or less been German since 1793?
Härjedalen and Jämtland have been Swedish since 1645. Bohuslän since 1658.
Give it back?
>back
?
>>70849015
I'll do you one better and offer you the entire country.
Please, take it, there's nothing you can do which is worse than what we're doing to ourselves.
>>70848806
I am filing that in the perpetuation cabinet.
>>70849061
That's clearly not what he's asking.
Obviously it doesn't make sense to return any of the German clay now, since there aren't any Germans there anymore. But that wasn't the case in 1939.
>>70845986
>Turks and refugee trash in Nazi-Germany
Mate, go to sleep
>>70849131
BRING THEM BACK
>>70845294
>returned Danzig?
Danzig was a free city state at that moment with 95% german population. There was nothing "to return" at the moment. Poland send it´s military to the city and would have taken it by force at some time.
The start of the war wasn´t directly about Danzig though, that "could wait till later". Hitler wanted to negotiate:
Hitler’s proposal was to be “in the form of a ‘Diskussionsgrundlage’ (basis
for discussion)”, but it was an absolute condition that a Polish negotiator vested
with plenary powers was to receive them.110) The German documents confirm
that Hitler did not wish to present Poland with an ultimatum but rather that he
was considering for the negotiations to take place over a more extended period,
since their most urgent point is named as being the cessation of the persecution of
the Germans in Poland.111)
At 3.15 a.m. on the 30 August, thus even before Dahlerus had arrived in
London, Lord Halifax already knew that “the 30 August is not an absolutely
unconditional date”.112)
As a result of the discussion with Dahlerus, Lord Halifax advised the Polish
government in the evening of the 30 August (5.30 p.m.):
“a) not to fire on fugitives or members of the German minority who cause
trouble, but to arrest them;
b) to abstain themselves from personal violence to members of German
minority;
c) to allow members of the German minority wishing to leave Poland to
pass freely;
d) to stop inflammatory radio propaganda.”
>>70850269
The reaction from Beck was to be expected (30 August, 7.15
p.m.):
“The Polish Foreign Minister… enjoins the British government to refrain
from pronouncing its views and positions on purely Polish matters unless
expressly empowered to do so by the Polish government. It is the most rude
sovereign-great power standpoint. The evaluation of Polish questions is the
sole and exclusive decision of the Polish government.” 114)
Poland’s position now was much more rigid than in March 1939, before the
British guarantee. If, over the five months from October 1938 to March 1939, she
had shown readiness to negotiate, now she no longer need “fear negotiations”,115)
even less so, since the Polish military leadership was convinced of their forces’
superiority over the Wehrmacht. Even with his allies, Beck kept his cards close to
his chest.115)
On 30 August the British government had further aggravated the situation by
not informing the Polish government of the German readiness for negotiations (Germany send the desire for negotiations out at the 28th or so. Since Poland removed their diplomat from germany, germany had to send info to britain and britain forwarded that info to poland... yet they didn´t do this on purpose so that germany thinks poland doesn´t wanna talk) until the late hour of around 12 o’clock midnight. Poland, for her part, used the
30 August for worsening the situation by announcing in the afternoon general
mobilization, which had been decreed the day before, and by stopping rail services
to East Prussia at first in parts, then on the 31 August stopping it completely by
blowing up the bridge at Dirschau.117)
>>70849015
Gdansk more or less has been Polish for 700 years and German/Prussian for 200 years + 100 years Teutonic.
>>70850410
Lord Halifax even
rejected the German suggestion that he might advise Poland to send a
representative for immediate German-Polish negotiations.118)
Ribbentrop read aloud to the British Ambassador the German
negotiation proposals intended for Poland. He was later criticized for not having
handed over the proposals in written form, having only conveyed them “at top
speed” and unintelligibly. One cannot fabricate a case of wrongdoing from this
oral presentation. The Minister Plenipotentiary and chief interpreter, Dr. Paul
Schmidt, disputed the claim that Ribbentrop had been reading too fast and
indistinctly.119) For the rest, there is the memorandum of Minister Plenipotentiary Schmidt in the German documents; 120) it is stated therein that Ribbentrop “had
read... slowly and clearly, and had even given explanations on the main points”.
The proposals were ready. Their content matter had been known to the British
government since the morning of the 30 August (cf. Dahlerus’s talks in London).
The proposal for negotiations to be discussed, as drafted on the 30 August by
the Reich government, contained the following points:
a) the return of Danzig to the Reich (“Nobody in Poland denies that Danzig is
a German city from a national standpoint”).122)
b) a plebiscite on the affiliation of the Corridor territory (West Prussia), under
international control, not before a period of twelve months. If, as a result of this
vote, the Corridor were to return to the Reich, then Poland would receive the
harbour of Gdingen and an extra-territorial road through West Prussia. If, on the
other hand, the population of the Corridor voted in favour of Poland, then the
Reich would claim the right to an extra-territorial road to East Prussia.
>>70850658
c) a guarantee of non-aggression extended to a period of 25 years, indeed, a
guarantee of the Polish state and thus of Poland’s frontiers in general.
The proposal, or rather claim, thus put by Hitler did neither contain the reintegration
of the province of Posen nor the valuable industrial areas of Eastern
Upper Silesia, arbitrarily and unlawfully detached from the Reich in 1921, nor
any other rectification.
Shortly before his conversation with Ribbentrop, Henderson wrote to his
Foreign Secretary, warning him:
“If there is to be any genuine peace in future between Poland and her
powerful neighbour grievances of latter which are not of Herr Hitler’s making
but national must be eliminated. In my opinion in order to achieve this end
City of Danzig as distinct from port must revert to Germany; there must be
direct and extra-territorial communication between Reich and East Prussia;
and German minority in Poland must be got rid of by means of some exchange
of population. On no other basis can there ever be genuine and lasting peace
between the two countries. No diplomatic compromise has a hope of surviving
indefinitely.
Having only just written that Hitler “would refuse such a basis”, so Henderson
must have been rather surprised in his talk with Ribbentrop that the German
proposal contained precisely that which he himself had outlined as being the
German minimum demands. Hitler, after all, did accept this “basis”, and Henderson
even described, straight after the meeting with the Reich Foreign Minister, the
German offer as “not unreasonable”.
>>70850942
Lipski, for his
part, should at least make an attempt for the preservation of peace and to sound
out the Reich Foreign Minister on the possibilities for negotiations. But in vain!
In a note to London he gave vent to his exasperation:
“The German proposals certainly do not endanger the independence of
Poland...The German acceptance of a plebiscite in the Corridor is curious...
The Poles must put themselves in the right by making a gesture of some
kind, or else we must all fight.” 126)
"Lipski had told Forbes that he had
no reason to interest himself in any notes or offers from the Germans. He had
had many years experience of Germany… he stated his conviction that unrest
would break out in this country in the event of war and that the Polish army
would march triumphantly on Berlin.” 129)
Lipski described the German proposals offhandedly as “a sign of weak-ness”.130) Polish leading circles were ridiculing the German readiness for
negotiations, and it was not only Warsaw radio that expressed such an attitude.131)
Lukasiewicz in Paris:
“They [the German proposals] are so immoderate that the German government
must have gone mad, or else is now pursuing an out-and-out provocation
to goad the Polish government.” 132)
Such a misinterpretation of Germany’s willingness to negotiate embodied the
very opposite of a peaceable attitude. Even Lord Halifax voiced his irritation –
albeit too late – on 1 September
>>70845294
Would have made no difference. Czechoslovakia handed over the Sudetenland. Germany still invaded.
>>70851260
The ever-worsening crisis leading up to this date –1 September 1939 – did not
stem from Hitler’s initiative, as can be proved, but rather from the initiatives on
the part of Poland and Britain. It was these two countries that in August 1939 left
the leadership of the Reich with the only alternative of either choosing between
humiliation beyond all reasonable demand – also in the form of relinquishment
of Danzig for all times and the expulsion of the rest of the Minority Germans
from German territory in Poland – or the struggle for Germany’s rights to existence.
The Polish General Kazimierz Sosnkowski, Minister without portfolio in the
Cabinet in exile, revealed on 31 August 1943 to allied representatives of the press:
“Poland’s decision on 30 August 1939, which was based on the decree for
general mobilization, marks a turning point in the history of Europe. Hitler
was now confronted with the inevitability to wage war at a time when he was
hoping to achieve further victories without bloodshed.” 162)
On the 1 September at 9.50 a.m., or rather at 10.45
a.m., the British government was again informed by the Swedish mediator,
Dahlerus, that
a) Field Marshal Göring had received orders, in view of the Dirschau bridge
having been blown up, resulting in an unavoidable suspension of the transit route
through Poland into East Prussia, and in view of the fighting having taken place
in the Danzig area the day before (31 August), to drive back the Polish army from
the border region and to destroy the Polish Air Force along the frontier;
b) Poland’s refusal to negotiate with Germany was seen by the government of
the Reich as proof that single-handedly nothing else could be done on their part;
c) he, Dahlerus, had
“arranged with permission of the Führer a very friendly discussion with
the British Ambassador and the Polish Ambassador.” 166)
>>70845682
So you are saying if Hitler got his road he wouldn't have annexed half of europe? are you saying that poles triggered him so hard he just went balistic?
>>70851485
Neville Chamberlain did, once again, deliberately misinform the House of
Commons on the 1 September, when he stated:
“We never got a copy of those proposals [Hitler’s from the 30 August] andthe first time we heard them – we heard them – was on the broadcast last
night.” 168)
It was just as misleading, when he asserted that Ribbentrop had read these
proposals to the British Ambassador “at top speed” – meaning unintelligibly –
and had “proved” with this that they were not at all meant to be taken seriously.
This speech by Chamberlain, which once again contained thus (compare his speech
of 25 August) deliberate distortions, did not only expose the power structures
within British democracy, according to which the people were not consulted on
matters of vital importance to their existence, were not even given correct
information, but it also exposed London’s anti-peace orientated policy. Because
– as stated – honesty is a precondition for a policy of peace! But the British
government was not honest in the last days of peace:
1. They did, without having been unconditionally authorized by Poland, dupe
Hitler about Polish willingness to negotiate and the British desire to mediate,
asking the Reich Chancellor to draw up his basis for discussions. But Halifax, in
fact, was not taking any action commensurate with an intermediary; indeed, he
was fully cognizant,
“...that Polish Government have not looked with favour on the possibility
of mediation” [this referred to the Roosevelt message of 25 August 1939] 169),
yet, nevertheless, he extended on this 25 August the unconditional guarantee
to this Poland in a war-mood, in accordance with his determination that
“any attempt to patch matters up had been out of the question since the
conclusion of the German-Soviet agreement.” 170)
>>70851620
2. As can now be proved, Halifax fabricated on the 28 August a Polish assurance
of readiness to negotiate, he deceived his Ambassador, Henderson, and he added
to his subterfuge manoeuvre concerning the Note to Hitler of 28 August so much
explosive matter by way of giving false news accounts to diplomats and the press
that he had made it impossible thereby to reach a peaceable settlement.
3. At the same time, Halifax was sending alarming messages to the Polish
government, without, however, informing them in good time of the steps they
had taken in Berlin and of Hitler’s reaction. He thought it important that they
should perceive in Warsaw his guiding principle, i.e. his “line”.
4. London did not protest about the Polish general mobilization, which had to
be attributed in part to the Halifaxian alarmist news from the day before.
5. Lord Halifax violated his own preconditions, which he had conveyed to
Hitler two days before (28 August), when he did not, for one single moment, take
any action whatsoever as intermediary, not even at this point or beyond.
6. The British government thwarted Hitler’s expectation of a Polish
plenipotentiary by delaying, from the evening of the 29 August to the early hours
of the morning on the 31 August, and they made so many provisos in the
communication that was eventually transmitted to Warsaw that they were thereby
provoking a rejection from Poland. They frustrated, thereby, a direct German-
Polish contact that they themselves had recommended from becoming realized,
and they made the – blown out of all proportions – “question of procedure”, i.e.
how should the German proposals be imparted to the Polish government, insoluble.
The British government, therefore, was using these three days from 28-31 August
for advancing the war, while simultaneously keeping Hitler in the belief that they
were continuing with intensive mediation efforts.
>>70845294
What a beautiful place. Also, return it to whom? It was always originally theirs'.
Besides that, the Germans would just let it get flooded with sandniggers and ruin it.
>>70851671
7. Lord Halifax also made use, during the last discussions between Hitler and
Henderson, of unproved rumours according to which Germans in Poland were
committing acts of sabotage. In this way he deliberately set out to also aggravate
these last talks.
8. Chamberlain and Halifax – to mention just the men responsible – did mislead
and did incite the House of Commons and world opinion on many particulars.171)
This stance cannot be explained by saying that London took their bearings
from Italy’s secret affirmation to stay out of a war (18 August and 1 September
1939), as well as from the information supplied by German resistance adherents,
according to whom the majority of the German people was against Hitler and
requiring only a display of firm language from the British government to bring
about a putsch within the Reich.*) The pushing by the conductors of “public
opinion” in Britain and the USA, as well as that of the advisers in the Foreign
Office, but also the position and ultimate objective of the British government,
had been decided before these pieces of information were known. Concerning
the atmosphere in London during the last days of peace, there is a range of
documents produced for the historian to see. Here are just a few:
Chamberlain in a private letter to his sister of 10 September 1939:
“The final long-drawn-out agonies that preceded the actual declaration of
war were as nearly unendurable as could be. We were anxious to bring things
to a head, but there were three complications – the secret communications
that were going on with Göring and Hitler through a neutral intermediary, the
conference proposal of Mussolini, and the French anxiety to postpone the
actual declaration as long as possible, until they could evacuate their women
and children, and mobilize their armies. There was very little of this that we
could say in public.” 172)
>>70851790
The Polish Ambassador, Raczynski, wrote:
“Later that evening [2 September 1939] Duncan Sandys came to see me at
the Embassy. He told me that he, Churchill and their friends would not give
way and that they could count not only on moral support from the Labour
Party, but on a large section of the Conservatives. All were resolved not to
capitulate, and if Chamberlain were to weaken once again, he would be
overthrown.” 173)
Sir Horace Wilson, Chamberlain’s closest collaborator, on 2 September 1939
to the press Counsellor of the German embassy in London, Dr. Fritz Hesse:
“England is resolved upon war, and is no longer keen on a compromise.”174)
That was the reply to a compromise request, which the Reich Foreign Minister
von Ribbentrop had transmitted by telephone on the 2 September to the press
Counsellor of the German embassy in London:
“The Führer is prepared to withdraw from Poland and to offer compensation
for damage done thus far, on the condition that we get Danzig and the
road through the Corridor, provided Britain takes on the role of mediator in
the German-Polish conflict. You are authorized by the Führer to submit this
proposal to the British Cabinet and to take up negotiations on this immediately.”
175)
The British historian, A.J.P. Taylor:
“Ministers, led by Halifax, warned Chamberlain that the government would
fall unless it sent an ultimatum to Hitler before the House met again...
In this curious way the French, who had preached resistance to Germany
for twenty years, appeared to be dragged into war by the British, who had for
twenty years preached conciliation. Both countries went to war for that part
of the peace settlement which they had long regarded as least defensible...
Such were the origins of the second World war, or rather of the war between
the three Western Powers over the settlement of Versailles; a war which had
been implicit since the moment when the first war ended.” 176)
>>70850531
And Germans lived there the entire time it was even relevant as a city. Arguing who owned it is pretty silly for any sort of claim, by that logic Poland should still be part of Russia since they owned it for a good amount of time as well.
>>70851883
In conformity with this strategy, Chamberlain and Halifax showed a complete
disregard, both before and after the start of the war, for the Baltic States, for
Poland, for Italy – to say nothing of Germany – but also treated France, willing
for peace, in the same manner, when they
a) caught France unaware at the end of March 1939 with the guarantee to
Poland;
b) rejected immediately and with finality the mediation attempts on Mussolini’s
part from the 31 August and the 2 September – for the convening of a conference
for the 5 September – and, thereby, rendered ineffective the approval for
this plan from Paris;
c) on the 3 September, high-handedly, without consulting the ally, sent a twohour
ultimatum to Germany and were urging Paris shortly after that to follow
suit.
Ten minutes before this ultimatum from London expired, at 10.50 a.m. (3
September), Dahlerus in Berlin announced to the British Foreign Office that Göring
had received formal permission from Hitler to fly to London in order to reach a
rational resolution (suspension of all hostilities on the condition that the troops
remain at their current fronts for the duration of the talks).
“Mr Dahlerus telephoned to the Foreign Office at 10.50 a.m. to say that
the German Government had drafted their reply, which was on its way to us.
It should reach us by 11, though he could not guarantee that.
>>70852023
As far as Lord Halifax is concerned, who, already on the 21 July had rejected
Henderson’s suggestion of stopping or, rather, restricting press polemics184), there
exists a further incriminating quotation from the last day of peace:
“There was disquiet in the British House of Commons. A Member of
Parliament from the Labour Party met the British Foreign Secretary, Lord
Halifax, in the lobby on 2 September. ‘Are you still hopeful?’ he asked. ‘If
you mean hopeful for war,’ answered Halifax, ‘then your hope will be fulfilled
tomorrow’. ‘Thank God!’ replied the representative of the Labour Party.” 185)
>>70845294
Would have saved everyone a lot of trouble desu. But they didnt have to return the city. THey just had to build a railroad to it from Germany and let the people vote on it.
Really the eternal Polack fuels the war.
>>70852122
I guess thats enough spam for now.
>>70846322
Skane is Danish clay swedecuck. Not a mudslime interacial breeding ground you sick fucks use it for.
>>70848949
not sure if this is a bait.
Do you seriously believe that they went to war cause of Poland? They went to war cause of Poland in order to hand Poland over to the Soviets after the war? Why even go to war because of Poland if they dont care for Poland? Do you see the dissonance?
Winston Churchill writes impressively in his memoirs about these military
measures, which were taken both by the British leadership and the Dominion
governments and the Colonies at the news of the German-Soviet Non-Aggression
Pact.29) It was a question of a world-wide mobilization – against Germany, not for
instance (also) against the Soviet Union. Therefore, not morals and
humanitarianism could have been London’s motives. London failed to take into
account that it was only the British-Soviet military negotiations which moved
Hitler to come to an arrangement with the Soviet Union. One may accept
extenuating circumstances for the British reaction to the 23 August – from the
blame of having provoked the Stalin-Hitler Pact really in the first place, London
cannot be acquitted. The British reaction made the situation even more hopeless
and emboldened those powers that had an interest in a military conflict against
Germany. Peaceful means of reconciliation were not at all considered.27)
On 26 August, on Hitler’s advice, Ambassador Henderson took the German
alliance offer of 25 August to London. There he was detained until 5.00 p.m. of
the 28 August, a time span, which led to a “stagnation” of the talks.30) When on
that 28 August Henderson presented to Hitler at 10.30 p.m. the British reply to
his alliance offer to Britain and to his request for assisting him in settling the
German-Polish differences (from the 25 August), Hitler was bound to believe
that the British government had utilized the three days for intensive talks with
Warsaw and had influenced Poland to negotiate now, under the patronage of Great
Britain and France. Emphasizing that the situation was “extremely urgent”,
>>70848949
>give Poland guaranteed defensive alliance
>Germany invades poland to take german land occupied by german people that was given to poland in the versailles treaty
>USSR invades poland to spead communism
>GB and France Declare war ONLY on germany
>the war resolves and Poland is completely controlled by the USSR despite polands 'allies' bieng the winners.
Hmmmmmm. You should rethink this.
>>70852461
Hitler
was informed that the British government would be ready,
“to proceed as soon as practicable to such discussions... His Majesty’s
Government have already received a definite assurance from the Polish
Government that they are prepared to enter into discussions on this basis.” 31)
As already pointed out, britain lied, they never told poland about the negotiations.
In expectation of this mediation, thus confirmed, and of the now existing
Polish readiness for negotiations, Hitler would now draw up his negotiation
proposal, which he handed to Ambassador Henderson on 29 August.
Hitler, however, had no knowledge of what had really taken place during
those three days (26-28 August) in London. He was unaware that Lord Halifax
had not taken advantage of these three days for making an effort at mediation,
and that he had this, the most important démarche before the outbreak of war that
was forwarded to Hitler on 28 August, falsified with intent to defraud. The Polish readiness for negotiations, as asserted, did not at all exist and, furthermore, the
British government was not willing to mediate, as there was now, according to
the statement made by the British Foreign Secretary to the Polish Ambassador on
the 25 August “any attempt to patch matters up... out of the question.” 32) This
deception by Halifax, hitherto veiled in various ways, had also not been realized
for a long time by historians, since they too had been fooled by several falsified
documents, or rather, documents based on false reports (one of them in the
Documents on British Foreign Policy, the others in the “Polish White Book”, the
“British Blue Book”, and the “French Yellow Book”).
>>70852612
On 28 August Halifax fabricated an alleged telephone message coming from
Kennard at 4.00 p.m., the subject matter being the Polish readiness to negotiate,
and smuggled it into the British documents. For the historian today, it makes its
appearance as doc. 420 in the Documents on British Foreign Policy. This
“document” cannot be genuine and it is thanks to the historical contribution of a
German man to have discovered this, twenty years after the end of the war, and to
have drawn the historian’s attention to it.33)
>>70850531
Norway was formed in 872 so Jämtland has been Norwegian for 773 years...
>>70848255
Certain guarantees were made by the British and French governments in order to keep Poland out of anti-komintern pact. And these promises were not kept. Neither Britain, nor France acted the way they were supposed to. War was proclaimed, but no sigificant military action was taken.
Of course you are right in saying that they acted out of self-interest. They wanted to go to war with Germany (as it was becoming a continental hegemon), but at the same time they wanted to buy time for military build up. Thus - they forced Hitler's hand with Poland.
Nevertheless - a deal was made.
>>70845294
lol
>>70852774
actually Harald was the one who did it in modern times that is thoroughly documented in the sagas.
There was a king before him, his name was nor and he was said to come from finland. Some of his sons were agdir, mære, roge.... we can go on. The thing is, this was such a long time ago that it's a sagn not a saga. But it prolly has some truth to it never the less.
Also the God Sæming and his offspring were to rule norway, Frey in Sweden and Skjold in denmark. Our line died out so we have the danish ones today. I must admit, I do not know the blood line of the kings 1300ish-1905
>>70853818
>modern times, haugöld/moundage/haugalderen
>older times, brinnöld/burnage/brennalderen
The heathens recognized these two distinct different time periods, as we do today with the stoneage etc. There was a change of culture one went from burning the dead, to burring them in mounds. As the name says
>>70853818
>Our line died out so we have the danish ones today
Black death
...but let's keep on topic.
Stop stop stop stop fucking making Poland threads fuuuuucking stop
>>70846322
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>>70852122
Jesus Christ, you subhuman Kraut fags nobody cares about any of that. Just die out already.
>>70845294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ7_5MMboo4
>>70845294
Yes. The refugees need more clay to live on
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Thanks for your useful input. You truly are a great contribution to discussions Captain Butthurt,
