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That's it. EU is worse than Soviet Union. >The Euro
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That's it. EU is worse than Soviet Union.

>The European Parliament on Wednesday adopted a resolution voicing concern over the “effective paralysis” of Poland’s Constitutional Tribunal, a situation which it said endangers the rule of law, democracy and human rights.

http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/248552,European-Parliament-adopts-resolution-on-Poland

How the fuck are they allowed to tell us what to do in our own country? Fuck them.
Don't they have a refugee crisis to solve!?
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Death to the eternal k*autroach and his EU
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The EU's getting too big for it's britches.

It used to only be for trade but now they're meddling in other affairs now.

Glad we'll be leaving it soon.
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>>70840451
Do they even know that what they are doing in EU parliament is illegal as fuck?
I guess they don't give a fuck since letting in anyone with no papers into EU is also against international law.
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We have all lost our sovereignty

Just two days ago the EU court ruled we had to reunite a Turkish family here in Denmark. We cannot even decide who gets to stay in our countries anymore
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>>70840848
>We have all lost our sovereignty
You can't think like that. Germany can never win!
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>>70840848
Also, we WILL ignore that retarded resolution. What are they going to do? Sanction us and in the meantime build Nord Stream 2 with Russia (who is supposed to be under EU sanctions by the way)?
If they do that it will open up eyes of Europeans and let them see their real form.
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>>70840374
We need to destroy this accursed union.
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>>70840374
Meh, it's just a scare.
They won't do anything else than just slap us on the wrist and say "or else".
What, are they going to forcefully inject our country with muslims? Good luck with that, this is just another way of saying "genocide".
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>>70841507
>Meh, it's just a scare.
Are you sure? People in EU Parliament are literally insane.
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>>70841641
Half of the parliament are women. They are going to shill each other out of there before they'll use any military on us.
Truth is, they can't do shit, and they're literally just trying to save the horrible trade system between us and Germany/France (like selling us 30-year old tanks for millions).

Stay calm, Stanisław.
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>>70841641
Orban said he will veto any sanctions against Poland that the EU proposes. So they cannot really do anything but scream about Poland being evil.
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>>70841507
I seriously think they are trying to make a scape goat from Poland to take people's attention away from planned terrorist attacks.
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>>70841641
What did they do to the Hungarian nazis for creating the evil border fence? What did they do to prevent Austria from building a barrier?
EU is all bark and no bite
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>>70841076
>>70841209
Well shit nigger, you guys are trying to repress freedom of speech. Maybe you shouldn't go there man?
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>>70841816
What about all shills from "opposition" who actively lie about Poland in EU to make us look bad? I fucking hate these traitors. How can they betray Poland with straight face like that and still call themselves Poles? I'm convinced that they know, they will never win elections in here ever again but is this a good enough reason to destroy their own country?
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>>70841843
Orban and his people are not strong enough to fight this rigged system.
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kurwa
now im pissed off.
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>>70842165

>>70842165

>>70842165

>>70842165

Advertising thread
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>>70842035
>you guys are trying to repress freedom of speech.
HOW?! FOR FUCKS SAKE! HOW!?
We are doing the same thing as the rest of Europe and USA. How the fuck we are suddenly the ones who do bad things?!
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Can't you guys leave?

Just vote out.

>>70842035

It's not like the rest of the EU hasn't fucked over free speech.

"hate speech", for example.
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>>70840374
>adopted a resolution voicing concern
Oh yeah, lots and lots of concern, that'll do it!
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>>70842404
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>>70842323
>Can't you guys leave?
First we need to get back the money that we have paid to the EU.
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>>70842039
Their cadences will last only a few more months or so, then it's all history and they won't even have any of our politicians to shill for them.
With Hungary backing us up currently in the parliament, nothing is gonna happen.
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>>70842483
Is it worth staying to get your money back?
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>>70842035
Nah, we're just putting the foreign media owners in our country out of business.
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>>70840374
EU military intervention in Poland when?
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>>70842581
What about Tusk? When will his term end?
I've heard that PiS wants to put him in jail for his crimes. This info might have influenced this whole "resolution against Poland" bullshit.
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>>70841858
The general public thinks Poland is a shithole. Nobody is going to care, really, especially since it's politics and nobody wants to dive into that.

Terrorist attacks have that thing, you know - they're noisy and everybody reacts to them.
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>>70842039

I've recently read a book called r/k selection theory which does explain the reasoning behind this.

It sounds psuedoscientific but following its assumptions logically it does make sense, and it has published papers backing most of the claims in the book.

Check it out.

The basic premise is there are two types of people: r/K

r people are low investment people in their offspring and communities, basically bunny rabbits, who have prey mentality.

K people are predator mentality, with strong intergroup loyalties, high investment in their communities and offspring, etc.

Now, r's are generally pussies and proliferate when times are good, K's proliferate when times are bad and create the conditions for good times. R can only mate/proliferate when all the K's in their environment are removed. So by destroying the K's and the community they live in, they can advance themselves and their interests.

K's don't want this to happen, since they are usually heavily invested in their group and wish to see their group prosper, because if the group prospers then the K, who is heavily invested and a predator species, will see his share of the pie grow.
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>>70842625
It depends on what they are going to do next. If it stops at "deep concerns" than we will wait for UK to leave.
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>>70842796
>The general public thinks Poland is a shithole.
>Nobody
>Everybody

How the fuck do you know what general public thinks?
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>>70842739
Turk-Junker doctrine when?
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>>70842785
In 5 months, I guess? Something like that.
And I don't know much about the whole thing with PiS wanting to put him in jail. All I know is hearsay, so I don't know much.
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>>70842965
Tusk*
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>>70842739
poland would beat germany and nobody would care xD
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>>70842917
Social networking sites and people.
Been to France, and people living in the centre of Paris, with all the knowledge in the world at their disposal, still think Poland is communist.
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>>70842986
It's probably just American TVN shitposting in Poland, but we need to see what happens when he comes back to Poland.

http://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-z-kraju,3/tusk-przed-trybunalem-stanu-liberadzki-i-czarnecki-komentuja,635074.html
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>>70843117
>Facebook
>Paris
>>>/out/
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>>70843117
fact is cleaning publics toilets I earn 2 times your doctor wage
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>>70840848
>We cannot even decide who gets to stay in our countries anymore
FUCK the EU
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>>70843117

Not many people in Western Europe go to Poland though or have much need to learn about Poland. The average person is Britbong probably thinks it's a shithole

Never expected Poland to be one of the countries I admire the most
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>>70843283
And you still eat nigger dick for breakfast, while I don't.
I'd say that's a fair exchange, with you earning more for getting so worked up.

>>70843258
Okay, whatever. Just try not to rage so much, since you're itching for a revolution.
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>>70840451
>it's
Learn English, Muhammad.
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>>70841076
hey most of us (well a lot of us) are on your side, we should never forget to seperate the people from the government. As for me we should dissolve this whole EU nonsense right now and replace it with what it was - a purely economic union.
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>>70843650
>since you're itching for a revolution
No I'm not. I want EU to act normal. Right now they are making a whore out of logic and I can't accept that as a living, thinking human being.
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>>70840374
I like how they are harping on the fact that Poland disbanded a special rule only Poland has; and the EU only gives a shit because it means leftists have less power, even when they're already a minority.

If France or the UK has a "constitutional tribunal" that got disregarded and gave conservatives less authority, the EU wouldn't give a single shit.
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Good thing EU is collapsing.
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>>70840451
>it's
hahahahahhaa
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>>70843812
Hey, we are on /pol/. Every poster is a representative of his/her entire nation.
Also, the fact that your people agree with us won't help us in resisting getting buttfucked by your government.
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>Meanwhile Merkel ignores our constitutional court and no one speaks up about

If the EU hates it, you're on the right track, Poland. Keep going.
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>>70840374
all i ever see from EU is that their "solutions" bring us closer to the EUSSR

literally bully people, force people to work, no pay, retarded rules, fearmongreling

what really is missing is the army and we really are going to live in hell once they obtain it
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>>70843821
You're getting worked, Stanisław.
Chill.
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>>70844145

How is Merkel seen by the German people now Hans? Are they still bowing to her for being a humanitarian saviour, or has the tide turned?
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>>70843917
We did have this happen to us under Blair. The House of lords used to be our supreme court as well and it was very conservative. So Blair took an axe to the House and essentially packed it with Socialists. Then he created a Supreme Court and put a bunch of lefties on it.
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>>70844298

She's currently losing ground, due to the whole "Cucked German comedian makes fun of Erdogan and faces trial" affair going on.
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Then grow some backbone and leave the union.
Soviets were involuntary, but you asked for EU membership. Jarosław Kaczyński is an idiot, but it's your country and you have right to do whatever fuck you want there.
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>>70842483

That money will never come back you idiot.

Just leave while you can, at least your people would vote for such a thing.

Ours will not.
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>>70843650
Since eating nigger dick mean to cross some of them sometimes I'll keep considering Poland as a shithole sorry
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>>70844554
>Jarosław Kaczyński is an idiot
But he loves his country.

>>70844623
We will see. EU gave us money to spend till 2020. It would be unwise to throw that money away. Assuming that they will do jack shit to us till then of course.
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>>70844849

So you are letting your nation get fucked in the ass because you are getting payed.

I thought the jews where supposed to have left by now?
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>>70844765
>I tried to learn English, but I failed: The Post

Jacques, pls.
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>>70844910
>So you are letting your nation get fucked in the ass because you are getting payed.
We are not. As I said earlier. If it stops at "deep concerns" we won't give a fuck and take the money but if they try to sanction us our national pride will take over.
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>>70840374
Korwin will make anime real
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>>70845004
désolé
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>>70845031
He will die of old age in 5 years max you idiot.
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>implying theyre not right
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>>70842304
I can't speak about what is going on in Poland regarding free speech, but people are getting arrested in Europe for hate speech. Anybody who gets arrested for hate speech in the US is going to get a nice fat paycheck via 42 USC S 1983.
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>>70845127
When was the last time they were right about anything?
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>>70845083
Way to go, write in your frog language, keep throwing salt all over the place.
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>>70845133
I guess in Poland talking about normal, common sense matters is not considered a "hate speech".
You can't openly insult Catholic church though. Not like this is a bad thing of course.
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>>70844201
My doctor said that I should look out for my blood pressure. Apparently reading news has a bad influence on my heart.
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>>70845435
>Openly insulting anyone not being bad
It's always bad, with exception of sandmen and rainbowmen, socialists and liberals.
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>>70840374
At this point I only want to see the EU burn. Dissolve that shit and let each country be it's own again. This is getting ridiculous, it's like a dictatorship by now.
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>>70840374
The EU will fall, sooner rather than later.
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>>70845954
>At this point I only want to see the EU burn
Don't forget to vote for the right party during your next elections.
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>>70846608
I will. I'll check out the local group of AfD sooner or later. This shit is going too far. I honestly wonder if they ever expected such a backlash from the members.
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>we're pretty much doomed if we don't leave
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>>70840374

nice
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>>70842145

sanctions have to be unanimous, so a veto by one country is all you need to sink the idea
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>>70847172
Is this the first time they have broken their own rules?
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>>70847216

let them. what the fuck are they going to do? block EU funds? good riddance, they're spent on useless shit anyway
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>>70847383
>they're spent on useless shit anyway
Not sure about that.
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I don't even get why the EU is necessary. We traded with each other okay beforehand and I'm 90% sure after world war 2 no-one is interested in fighting amongst ourselves. Why even have it? Are European countries (including the UK in this, so not meant as an insult) so retarded and childish that without a unifying force wed fight each other again?
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>EU still think anyone cares what it has to say

>Anybody thinks poland will actually cuck themselves because some bought out criminals told them to

Let them come at us. We survived both the nazis and the fucking commies in one centuries. What is EU gonna do? They got to be delusional if they think they will be the end of us if we step out of line
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I've been warning y'all niggas for nearly 10 years but ya'll muthafuckas wouldn't listen.

>it'll never happen

LOL
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What did everyone do with their leaflet?
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>>70848039
>That one drunk guy in the middle of the street

Is this your average euro city? UK?


They are literally the niggers of Europe. French are unbelievable pussies, and swedish and germans are literally living jokes.

You try this shit in Poland, and you will see why we were a superpower. In the past, it always took at least 2 superpowers at the time to gangbang us and take us down for good, most recently with WW2. All it took to destroy sweden was a bunch of sandniggers
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>>70848039
You may find it funny but I think Donald Trump victory is the only thing that can change EU's attitude towards Poland and Hungary right now.
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>>70848039
It's pretty aesthetic degeneracy.
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>>70848338
They must still be mad after Korwin Called the muslims Human Trash right there in their HQ.
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>>70848583
Nah, it may have something to do with the fact that the current president of EU comes from a party that recently lost the elections in Poland.
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>>70840374
Stop crying like a bitch and leave the EU already

The faster the EU breaks down the we can get free
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>>70848746
No you can't. Even without EU you will still have 2.5 million refugees in Germany. How does it make you feel, bro?
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>>70848746
What's that? I can't hear you from all the ruckus that your wife is making as she is culturally enriched by a turk, you mind repeating that louder?
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>>70840374
Poland is part of the EU, mongoloid. They signed away their sovereignty when they signed the EU charter. Should have thought about that.
Get bent.
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>>70848921
>They signed away their sovereignty when they signed the EU charter.
That's not what the EU charter says :^
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>>70840374
why do you think the brits want to leave
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>>70848921

>burger thinks EU is united states of europe

get bent yourself
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>>70849013
>"that's not what the government told me!!"

Nigger are you serious?
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>>70849198
That's pretty much what it's becoming and inevitably, what's what it'll be. The writing is on the wall, if you can't see it, too bad.
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>>70849199
Nigger, have you read it or are you just shitposting? You can find the document in google. It's just one click away.
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>>70849295
>"but the document says they won't do it!!"

Again, are you daft? If a more powerful entity made you dependent on them and said you're still "sovereign" wound you believe them?
Think critically.
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>>70849293
>That's pretty much what it's becoming and inevitably, what's what it'll be. The writing is on the wall, if you can't see it, too bad.

no, it will become a smoldering ruin. if you think anything else, you're retarded
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>>70849480
As of now, it isn't. Bet you Poland won't do anything.
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>>70849427
I don't know what to say. Are all Americans as retarded as you? The deal is the deal. People who break deals should be punished.
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>>70849427

>shouldn't have signed the document
>but the document says something else
>lel don't believe what the document says :^)

piłeś, nie jedź
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>>70849526
"Deep concerns" are not a good enough reason to start WWIII, you know?
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>Eat up Western EU money for >10 years
>Hurr help help we're being oppressed, EU wants us to do something, abloo bloo Polexit when, we're such victims ;( fuck EU scum

Never change Poland.
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>>70849615
You're talking to a nation that literally elected a president because he was a nigger. I don't think talking to him about logic over emotions will do him any good, he will just call you a racist
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>>70849526

EU is germany and germany will implode shortly because of how many abduls they imported. poland doesn't have to do anything, just watch and eat popcorn
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>>70849562
>>70849608
A stronger entity has no problem with breaking a deal with a smaller, weaker entity, this has been observed through history and continues today. The EU operates like a government because essentially, that's what it wants to become. The founding fathers had provisions on things like this. I suggest you read up on them my friend.
Never trust the government.

>>70849692
This too.
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>>70840685
>international law

top kek
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>>70849692
>EU wants us to do something,
EU wants to force us to do something using totally illegal means. You know that we are a sovereign country and can have our own laws in place, right? If you see nothing wrong with what EU is doing then you have a huge problem. You just don't see this yet.
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>>70849805

>EU
>strong

this fucking guy
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>>70850044
Stronger than Poland? Of course.
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>>70849845
That's your problem westerners. You have no dignity and know nothing about honor and honesty. That's why your degenerate world is dying.
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>>70850082
You still fail to understand that EU is not one country.
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>have open internal boarders
>Have no real outer boarders defense
ishygddt
EU fucked up hard on this one.
>EU: "Italy, shame on you for defending your boarder from rapeships"
what the fuck, italy's boarder is defactos EU's boarder
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>>70850292
The EU has its own military. And it wouldn't have a problem with using it on Poland if need be.
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>>70850082

if it was, they'd do more than DEEP GONDZERN ;-DDDD

EU is a farce, a giant on clay legs. EU doesn't even have an army. hell, EU can't even tell it's member states to invade anybody. go read about what the EU actually is before you continue to make a fool of yourself
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>>70850385
It doesn't
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>>70850390
>BUT THE EU SAYS...!!

Kek.
You still don't learn
Stop believing the EU!
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>>70850385
>The EU has its own military.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MY SIDES

here, via wikipedia

The military of the European Union comprises the various cooperative structures that have been established between the armed forces of the member states, both intergovernmentally and within the institutional framework of the union; the Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP) branch of the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP).

it's just a glorified joint command staff to coordinate national militaries that may or may not follow it
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>>70850529

>gets BTFO
>kek yur stoopid

stop believing your mom when she says you're special
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>>70843283
while i walk around my city surrounded by my own men and women, whom i share a common culture and often religion with. i dont need to feel the pain or guilt of watching my country, for which so many of my ancestors died, be destroyed within one generation by what are essentially foreign invaders. i dont need to worry about being killed by a foreigner in my land, at least not yet.

The only offensive comments you have against poland are that we have less money than you, which is true. But you have no pride, your people are dying off much quicker than we are. Fuck you french piece of frog shit, your forefathers are rolling in their graves watching you.
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>>70850741
You're a fool.
Now you want to kick and scream after taking EU benies
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>>70846831
According to the EU everyone is doomed if you leave.
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>>70850802

>abloo bloo yur moar stoopid
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>>70850385
>Murican' education
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>>70850802
It's nice that you are bumping my thread, but if you won't stop acting stupid I'll report you.
Read the source and then comment on what you heave read.
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>>70850916
> if you won't stop acting stupid I'll report you.

Do it.
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>>70851412

can I also report your mom?
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>>70843812
But aside from this leftist bullshit UE always served germany interests.

Its plan as old as WW1, mittleuropa. Basicly, gerany is supposed to dominate europe in economic way, suppress any potantial competition, make other countries completly economically dependent.

Bassicly its exactly what happened to PL thanks to european union.

Why you thrive, we are sinking into poverty, being germanys servant at best. Its the way it always used to be.

Out only chance is that your government plan with refugees (whatever it was) somehow misfired and you country is slowly starting to rot from inside.
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>>70851489
Acting stupid are we?
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So what are the odds of a civil war in Europe in the next few years?
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>>70852008

I'm just trying to descend to your level to help you understand the thread. my parents taught me to be nice to the handicapped
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>>70852090

zero because europe is not a single fucking country
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>>70852090
In Poland? 0%
In Germany? There a large chance if they keep importing "refugees".
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Leave the EU, Poland, and get others to as well. Then start a coalition with Norway, Denmark. the UK, Hungary, Macedonia, Czech Repub, Slovakia,Belarus, etc and... I know you're hesitant to, but with Russia.
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>>70850385
smdh senpai
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>>70850745
Well said /pol/bro
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>>70843966
>>70843707
Possessive, you dumb fucks.
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>>70852090
>>70852221

You'll have to forgive him. In the US the civil war was between two separate countries so the term gets misused frequently in the States when they're talking about civil wars abroad.
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>>70852221
European Union.

Essentially a confederacy whether you want to believe it or not.

And you didn't answer my question, what are the odds of a war in the next few years over this crisis?
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>>70852955
>And you didn't answer my question, what are the odds of a war in the next few years over this crisis?
War between who and who? Civil war in Germany is none of our business. They are adults, they can handle consequences of their own decisions.
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>>70852558
>possessive
"It's" is a contraction of it has.

"its" is a possessive.

No can into grammar, Muhammad?
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>>70840374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14U5ZE-N2w

i stand with the poles eu must die
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>>70854007
Wow, what the flying fuck. This guy...

>at loss for words.
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>>70853872
>The general rule is that the possessive of a singular noun is formed by adding an apostrophe and s, whether the singular noun ends in s or not. The possessive of a plural noun is formed by adding only an apostrophe when the noun ends in s, and by adding both an apostrophe and s when it ends in a letter other than s.
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This is the first time the EU has ever given a flying Fuck about "democracy"

Seriously Fuck the EU. More countries in Europe should be like poland
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>>70854007
>diversity is humanity's destiny

I'm okay with that but I'm not okay with Europe being flooded with nigs and mudslimes.
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>>70852955

you're wrong, but I accept this guy's >>70852591
explanation. EU is too impotent to be like your southern confederacy. as for your question, it's hard to day. depends on how the refugee crisis turns out. that war will hardly be civil because t will be between indegenous europeans and the muslim invaders
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>>70854253
>The confusion between it’s and its occurs because with virtually every other word, ‘s indicates possession. Consequently, English speakers naturally want to use it’s to mean "something belonging to it." But it’s is only used when it’s a contraction of it is or it has.

>The ironclad rule – no exceptions – is that if you can replace the word with it is or it has, use it’s. Otherwise, it’s always its.
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>>70840374
>How the fuck are they allowed to tell us what to do in our own country?

It's in the treaty you signed to join.
EU doesn't allow dictatorships.
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>>70854627
You can delete your last 2 posts, Marcin.
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>>70854680
>It's in the treaty you signed to join.
No it's not.
>EU doesn't allow dictatorships.
Then it should dismantle itself.
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>>70854524
>it's hard to day

*say

typo
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>>70840374
Poland starts ww3 when
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>>70854387
New members were also required to pass democratic reforms.

Poland is the first EU member to move away from democracy again.
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>>70854838
We aren't that stupid my friend. Only world elites benefit from wars. Poland would lose even if we won this war.
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>>70854698
Oh damn it, I forgot there's that. In fact, I don't remember ever using it.
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>>70851753
>Our only chance is that your government plan with refugees (whatever it was) somehow misfired and you country is slowly starting to rot from inside.
Imagine that... we will be rulers of Europe once west gets raped and we come and conquer on our horses.
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>>70854938
>Poland is the first EU member to move away from democracy again.
Except we didn't.
Stop believing lies that come from your media. Thanks.
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>>70854745
>No it's not.


http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/policy/conditions-membership/index_en.htm
The Treaty on the European Union states that any European country may apply for membership if it respects the democratic values of the EU and is committed to promoting them.

The first step is for the country to meet the key criteria for accession. These were mainly defined at the European Council in Copenhagen in 1993 and are hence referred to as 'Copenhagen criteria'. Countries wishing to join need to have:

stable institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities; (.....)
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>>70855013
Theads have bump limits. Be responsible.
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>>70854938
>>70854404
Hello my fellow dutch-bro's. How is your TTIP referendum going on, got 600.000 signatures already? When you will show again your middle finger to EU on completely not-EU-sponsored-and-initiated referendum? So nice to know there is true democracy somewhere
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>>70855046
>Stop believing lies that come from your media.

Our media isn't the one that got seized by the government.
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>>70855077
Listen dipshit. Our constitutional tribunal is as democratic as ever, in fact the opposition have MORE reps in there than the current gov.
Do you understand now? This whole "crisis" is a shitfest created by Soros funded fags and the opposition that lost the elections. I'm sure, you can count. Please go and count how many representatives from PiS are in the constitutional tribunal right now. OK?
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>>70855266
>Our constitutional tribunal is as democratic as ever

LOL, whatever.
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>>70855167
Are you 12? National TV belongs to the government. EVERYWHERE!
Other media in Poland were not influenced by the Gov. Why the fuck do you think Germans that own "polish media" are free to shit on our country from within the country?!
Use your brain. Thanks.
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>>70854938
>>70854680

>democracy
>dictatorship

dude, the constitutional tribunal was founded during the martial law and was a tool of the communist regime. it's a leftover from communism, so if they don't want dictatorships, they should tell us to actually dismantle that shit. also, PiS is democratically elected, so hardly a dictatorship. plus PO actually put their judges there illegally and PiS showed them a middle finger. you're gullible if you think that democracy is threathened in poland in any way. it's just a power struggle between the old and new government, nothing more
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>>70855329
NO! No "whatever". Check the facts and stop eating up every fucking lie that they are selling to you.
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>>70855329
>be Dutch
>make referendum (non binding)
>celebrate """victory""" on /pol/
>5 days later government says they don't care about the referendum

Even North Korea is more democratic than you
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>>70855399
>National TV belongs to the government. EVERYWHERE!

Here they belong to clubs.
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>>70850745
The words of a true /pol/ish legend. Bravo.
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>>70855533
I don't know what "clubs" are.
Political clubs?
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>>70855400
>it's just a power struggle between the old and new government, nothing more

No.

It's dismantling the checks and balances.

Elected and dictator aren't mutually exclusive.
Hitler was also elected.
When the government can do what they want, without any institution (like the supreme court or independent media) able to stop them it's a dictatorship.
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>>70850745
Great post
Whats the economy like in Poland anyways? I hear its growing rapidly but its all foreign business while Polish business are being weeded out.
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>>70855804
I think actually Polish business has been sprouting recently, but it's still in early stages.
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>>70855751
>I don't know what "clubs" are.
>Political clubs?

Broadcasting clubs.

Basically anyone can begin a TV club and get air time to broadcast their programs.
Even this guy.
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>>70855796
How can you pass any meaningful reforms ever when the opposition bombs your every project because "fuck you"? Also, I need to remind you that what PiS has done is bringing balance to the tribunal owned by the opposition.
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>>70855796

how about you do what my colleague suggested to you a few posts ago and count the judges, you fag. this whole debacle is caused by butthurt opposition who want to cause harm to the current government because they lost. even with additional PiS judges, PO still has a majority

>let me tell you something about your country
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>>70840374
>How the fuck are they allowed to tell us what to do in our own country?

Well, you see, you're being a very bad bunch of naughty goys. You kicked out all your Marxists by popular vote, and then you replaced the Marxist court system that was stacked against you in favor of left-wing politics, EU shilling, and open borders. You started being even worse bad goyim when you decided you weren't going to take any of the poor, poor refugees like Germany and Brussels commanded you to.

Bad goyim defying the Chosen must be punished!
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>>70855796
The whole shit about the tribunal is semantics. Both sides did the exact same thing, but only one side is blamed for it because mama Merkel and EU liberals don't like it.

It's not a problem between who's right, because the entire tribunal problem cannot be resolved in accordance to existing law. It's a law's black hole.

The actual dispute here is nationalist government vs EU puppet gov. It's a proxy war between those two which is meant to stage either another Majdan or quicker elections (and influence the polls).
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>>70856164
>>70856175

Debating is pointless.

You're going to be part of Russia in 10 years time anyways.
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>>70856003
>Basically anyone can begin a TV club and get air time to broadcast their programs.
So it's the same as in Poland. Everyone can have their own TV program, but the National television is there to educate and keep the national spirit up high. By letting every group of interest into the national TV you allow degeneracy to be broadcasted on national TV. We don't want that. We are paying from our taxes for the national TV and we should be able to decide what goes on-air. If you don't like it, switch the channel.
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>>70856164
Dutchfags are just jealous degenerates and angry for those countries who are not raped by muslims. Ignore him
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>>70856311

>got BTFO
>gets salty

don't be like that burgerfag from earlier. you're wrong and eat up propaganda, that's a fact
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>>70850745
Well spoken, /pol/ack
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Death to the EU.
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>>70856496
Or you can listen to the teachings of Poland and save EU while you still can.
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>>70848338
Donald Trump winning would, if nothing else, make people in Europe realize it's okay to be white and it's okay to vote for nationalist parties... because the Americans did it.

It doesn't really matter if he does fuck all taking office. That message alone might drastically improve the situation in Europe.
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>>70856430
No I was serious.

The way thing are going Poland will get kicked out of the EU and probably NATO.
Then there is no reason for Russia not to invade Poland.

This is the future you chose.
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>>70854563
haha fucking body slammed by a toilet plunger
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>>70840374
We give you shitloads of sheckles we expect something in return you inbred polack. Make a deal with the devil and not expect anything bad to happen pls.
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>>70856698
That's like your opinion, man.
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>>70856698
I doubt it would get kicked out of NATO. But that might actually be a good thing. Russia has to go through Ukraine and several other NATO countries to get to Poland, giving them time to build up their military and become strong.
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>>70850745
/pol/an bringing of heat today
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>>70856698
Russia won't go ANYWHERE where the majority isn't Russian speaking. They refuse to do anything that can be universally condemned.

Haven't you seen how their PR and world actions have painted them as saviors of Syria? Putin and co are doing a good job.

Don't fucking push bs propaganda when all the EU has done for Poland is take out a lot of their people and send them to your country, the UK, Germany etc.
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>>70840374
You are aware that resolution they passed means literally nothing, right?
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>>70856698
>The way thing are going Poland will get kicked out of the EU

good riddance. we should actually get the fuck out ourselves

>and probably NATO.

and now you just went full retard. do you think that a military alliance would forfeit a strategic location like poland because MUH DEMOCRACY? seriously, are you underage?
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>>70856625
Europe is already voting for right-wing anti immigration parties.
We already build our walls and made them higher several times.

Trump won't circumvent the supreme court or any majority house/senate.
People can dislike him, but he's democratic.
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>>70856698
Why would we kick Poland out of NATO when they're the only non-bitch country hitting their 2% minimum

Your female defense minister sold all your German tanks for welfare money and Arab cum, probably
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>>70856933
>Russia has to go through Ukraine and several other NATO countries to get to Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast
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>>70857206

that is a fair point but you can relocate only so many soldiers there without causing at least suspicion
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>>70857206
So before they can invade, Putin has to send all his military to this tiny bit of clay bordering Poland to avoid NATO. While not impeding on the airspace or sea territory of any other countries at the same time.

Yeah, sure.
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>>70857098
We are also your greatest ally in this part of Europe. Germany is actively conspiring with Russia bypassing sanctions (Nord Stream 2). I'm sure US gov doesn't like that.
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>>70850745
Poland spitting that heat, fuck french fag blown out. Enjoy that north African enrichment froggo!
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>>70857206
>Ukraine
>Nato
Choose one.
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>>70857206
>the entire Russian military is in Kaliningrad and Russia is capable of sending supplies past Poland through the Baltic when at war with Poland

confirmed retard
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>>70840374
I just realized Poland's flag is red on the bottom.
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>>70857585
>Greatest ally
>Still need visas.
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>>70857534
How about nuclear warheads?
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>>70857679
I thought the idea was to invade glorious Polan, not destroy it.
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>>70857676
Why do you think Poland is so butthurt about Visas? We give everything to the US and in return they shit on us and use us in their games..
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>>70843059
shes pressing and holding down the refuge button
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>>70857679

everyone else on the planet would kick russia in the nuts for that. nuclear weapons are still scary, even if the cold war ended. besides, you invade countries to acquire their assets, what use would they have from nuclear craters?
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>>70852558
So this is the power of British English-language education.
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>>70857679
In this era you can ICBM anything, moreover, there's shitton of submarines with nuclear capabilities all over the world. There's no need to even relocate anything... if there is a reason to do that, it would be to scare someone shitless.
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>>70840374
EU is new world order CANCER. I cant wait till the European economy blows up so we can say told ya so.
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>>70842479
The U.N and E.U will fall someday!
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>>70856933
>what is Belarus
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>>70840451
This.
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>>70857664
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDPDLSdcF8I

Polska : biało-czerwoni
Poland : white and red

It's easy to remember. We are white and red. Monaco is red and white. Whatever comes first is always on the top.
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>>70858017
I think we should worry more about the Federal Reserve blowing our own economy up. But I do agree theirs is in a much, much worse spot, especially 'cause of all the socialism.
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>>70857925
A radiation barrier that would stop Europe's ground troops? It was their plan for the entire cold war.
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Latvian votes. Only one commie cunt voted for this shit.
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>>70858405
>>70842145
Inb4, everyone asked voted against but we still got 5:1
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>>70840451
Did any other Bong get the government leaflet in the mail about why we should stay? Is that even allowed? I thought the government had to be neutral but informative, not, "Hey vote in you cunt".
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>>70858339

poland was expendable property back then and they were willing to sacrifice it in an event of a world war, anon. they'd dismantle and transport everything of value first. times have changed, don't think they'd do the same now
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>>70858589
Wait why am I in the US? Fucking Americans think they own us reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>70858663
>times have changed
Are you sure? It seems like the history is repeating itself just one generation later.
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>>70850745

FROGS B T F O
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>>70858848

we live in a time of proxy wars and politics coupled with infowars, not tank offensives and nuclear barrages
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>>70859274
wsumie.jpg

Have you noticed paid Russian agents on TVN (US TV in Poland) forums? They aren't even hiding it.

Thank God Russia sends more of them to Baltic States.

http://www.stopfake.org/en/tag/pro-russian-trolls/
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>>70859494

I don't frequent any forums except 4chan. that way I avoid most cancer while 4chan gives me the benefit of doubt
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>>70859494
>Pro russian trolls
Maybe there are some, but majority of it is a myth of the previous and current govs. Anyone who doesn't like those is just called a "Russian troll".

The list of things that get you branded as "Russian troll" is vast. Write something bad against Syrian rebels or say a good thing about Assad? Russian troll. Say US and West made a mistake anywhere in the middle-east? Russian troll. Say anti-Russian sanctions are disadvantaging us economically? Russian troll. Say EU is doing wrong? Russian troll. Say PiS is doing wrong? Russian troll.

It's a perfect mythological being to blame for everything and anything, also a perfect excuse for someone not to listen to logical arguments.

I'm not saying Russians are saint, but blaming "Russian trolls" for every post that you don't agree with is bullshit.
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>>70859887
Welp, on /pol/ idiots can be easily recognized because they can't into proxy. The smarter ones usually reveal themselves unintentionally because they shitpost too hard. They don't act natural. They don't know when to stop giving a fuck.
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>>70860073
Russian and German trolls are real.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

The sole fact that they exist makes you not trust anyone on the web, ever. Same thing goes for product shills on other boards.
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>>70860274
It doesn't matter who is the one writing things, it's about whether they're right or not. I prefer to talk with a "russian troll" who's right rather than talk with leftie cuck who's just a cuck. If you can't into logical arguments and your own views/knowledge/information gathering you shouldn't be entering any board.
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>>70860073
You know that they have Russian flags above their posts, right? I'm not saying that everyone really is a troll, but by assuming that everyone is a troll I have larger probability of being correct than wrong. Especially on /pol/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3nXvScRazg

Check out how many gay/trans treads popped up all over 4chan lately. Everyone came out? I don't think so. They are using memetic warfare to promote degeneracy among US youths.
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>>70860579
Dude, you are right, but if you are getting paid for spreading misinformation, you rarely waste your time on telling the truth, ja?
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>>70860579
>Paid for misinformation
So what?

I mean, look at that vid.
>>70854007
This guy is paid more, and has an even broader range. I'd take Russian troll misinformation any times over this guy.
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>>70840374
Because the government is blatantly breaking the law

>Inb4 leftist KOD faggot
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>>70861167
Petru kurwa
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>>70861167
>Breaking a law that was created by a communist dictator.
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>>70840374
an undemocratic Union says a member of that Union is undemocratic......
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>>70840374
lol if you give ur country to neocons it won't be ur country anymore
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>>70861270
>where is the money for the protest?
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>>70861370
.Muh leftist regime

Are you fucking retarded?. They are breaking the law established by the 97 constitution
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>>70861621
No, they are not.
Point me to the part of constitution that says that their actions are prohibited. I dare you. Do it.
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>>70861795
Article 190 of the constitution, from the top of my head.
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>>70840374
>How the fuck are they allowed to tell us what to do in our own country?
Since 1964. EU-law and legal system>national law and legal system. Always. Even constitutions. Learn to fucking read
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_v_ENEL
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>>70862131
Welp, they can't make any legal decisions, because they aren't tribunal judges. If I remember correctly you need to have all judges present to make any decisions.
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