Is it morally wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?
yes. your family should die. nautral selection; youre creating new theives by breeding
>>70821568
You'd be retarded to steal a loaf of bread and nothing else
Protip: Steal bread, lots of chicken, olive oil and orange juice. Maybe some milk if you have the space.
All you need, ever. Emptying a bottle of olive oil in a loaf of bread can feed a full family for a week.
>>70821568
No, but you're contributing to the disorder and decay of society by doing it.
No, it's not allowed, but as a human being, I would forgive you.
>>70821568
According to the bible, no.
It's also not punishable in Brazilian law.
Justice will probably forgive you
>>70821568
considering all the avenues to feed your starving family, yes, turning to thievery is immoral
>>70821850
WTF do you mean to the bible no? Fuck you
>>70821730
Shouldn't family come first?
>>70821568
no. it's bound by the "law" of pure survivalism.
>>70821730
By your edgy "natural selection" logic there is nothing wrong with stealing, as if you succeed with the theft, you are basically outsmarting those you steal from, therefore being more "fit" for survival than them.
You'll get 5 years for what you did and 14 more when you try to escape
Morals are subjective.
If you can't feed yourself or others why the fuck did you make other people?
>>70821568
Yes, it is wrong to steal. In every case.
Is it forgivable in this case? Very much more so than others, yes.
>>70821747
The more you steal the less likely people will let you off.
>>70821902
Ever tried reading Proverbs 6:30? All you faggots do is meme about Deus Vult, you're a fucking disgrace.
>>70821568
Last time it created Australia. Be careful
is stealing really the only option?
why is your family starving in the first place?
be more specific faggot, you can't discuss philosophy this superficially
>>70821935
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What if I punch a five year old orphan and steal his loaf of bread?
Latter day saints 1
Atheists 0
>>70821568
Only if you haven't tried begging before you do.
>>70821730
Theft is a viable evolutionary strategy.
>>70821568
There is no moral universalism; stealing a loaf of bread is good for you and your family and bad for the people you are taking it from.
>>70821568
Yes, because property rights. However that doesn't mean I wouldn't do it
>>70822059
>stealing is only bad if you get caught
Yeah, this is why we don't rely 100% on the bible for moral authority.
>>70822007
>Yes, it is wrong to steal. In every case.
That's what capitalist pigs want us to believe.
Yes it's immoral. It was immoral for you to begin a family without being able to sustain them as well. There are legal methods of obtaining sustenance without hurting other people. Making other people work harder to support you is immoral.
>>70822121
My name is Jean Valjean!
>>70822059
proverbs is old testament you jew faggot
>>70822212
>murder is bad in every case
It's what counterevolutionaries want us to believe.
>>70821568
Yes just because someone is too weak to survive on their own doesn't give them the right to steal. Let natural selection do it's job and remove the weak from the gene pool. It's a shame we don't cut the hands off of thieves over here
>>70821568
Yeah, in a moral sense. Shouldn't be in that situation to begin with and you could always work or trade some sort of service for goods
>>70822223
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>>70822053
The more you get caught the worse you are at stealing
I mean, I've stolen on accident before. Had a shopping cart full of groceries and walked out without paying because I was tired and legitimately had a brainfart.
Nothing happened. I went back to pay because it was more than I'd be comfortable with stealing though
>>70821568
>'Murican family
>a loaf of bread
Yea it's morally wrong, you steal AND your family is still hungry.
what if you're family don't like bread, they like cigarettes?
>>70821797
Thanks!
>>70822281
>rape is bad in every case
That's what the parents of the children in that kindergarten class want you to think
You know what the best thing to do is? Ask for the bread.
>>70821568
From whom are you stealing? The shopkeeper has a family to feed as well. If you steal from him they go hungry. You sound like a dindu with your lack of empathy and understanding for anyone other than yourself.
>>70821568
No, but if caught u and your family should be shot
>>70822212
>slavery is bad in every case
It's want marxist pigs want us to believe.
>>70822227
>There are legal methods of obtaining sustenance without hurting other people.
Why would you expect that always to be true? What if there are no jobs and no social system? What if there is a famine yet the upper class of course stays well fed?
>>70821568
>Is it morally wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?
yes because youre teaching your children to steal and justify stealing because you are hungry.
if youre poor and still decided to have a kid , you are an irresponsible piece of shit and deserve to die of hunger.
>>70822440
edgy
>>70822427
>>70822281
Prisons are basically slave labour camps.
And murdering criminals and random muslims considered moral by society. So yes, it depends on circumstances.
>>70822478
that's not edgy, thats what you call not thinking like a nigger.
you cant get yourself out of hunger yet you decide to bring another life in the world, that's nigger behavior
>>70821568
Morally no.
Legally yes.
>>70822478
Supporting criminals calls others edgy gj sweden
>>70822551
Slavery is good filthy marxist pig.
ayo cuck mods deleted my image lmao
Is it morally wrong to steal a loaf of bread from a starving family to stock a bakery?
>>70822478
Jamal, isn't Sweden's welfare enough for you to buy a bread?
>>70821568
No, go away, Jean Val Jean
>>70822592
>somehow morally justifying stealing from others
Shit morals from a shit poster. What a surprise.
>>70822776
>expecting anything but criminal behavior from a penal colony
>>70822551
get your filthy bourgeois morals out of here, I do slavery because it is in my economic interest to do so and the slaves are racially and morally inferior.
All you dirty filthy yankees will be killed and the prole's morals shall reign supreme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1EOle6OQw
>>70822212
>That's what capitalist pigs want us to believe.
It's morally wrong but it's justified. They two are not the same... I believe that killing someone is morally wrong, but there are times when it is justified. That doesn't mean it won't weigh on you because it arguably should
Yes, most civilized countries have soup kitchens and the like. If you are desperate enough to steal, you can just go there.
>>70821568
only if you are the master race.
>>70821730
Re-read Kohlberg's stages of morality.
>>70821568
Nope.
>>70821816
This is the best answer I could agree with, it's wrong, but any person with empathy would understand. To me, food is a right, not a privilege, any person who saw a starving family and felt no obligation to help if they were able should be a little ashamed of themselves in my opinion, but that's just that, my opinion, this subject matter is highly subjective.
It's immoral to have a family and let it come to starvation in the first place. You've already failed as a person before you steal the bread. So no. The theft itself is OK, but only because you're already a nigger.
>>70822309
No wonder why are you called the jews of europe
I'm surprised no one has brought up the question of multiple people stealing to feed their families.
>>70823193
depends if the starving person is an enemy, if marxists were starving I would make sure they stay starving.
>>70823288
If a nigger who wants to stay living in my land is starving I would hold the blockade until they perish.
>>70823215
Wouldn't a jew take the free food without thinking?
I mostly didn't take it because I knew one of the employees would get in trouble over it
>>70822059
Ten Commandments, dude.
>>70823288
>I'd rather let my political enemies die of starvation than give people I don't agree with help
>Your average poorfag in a Marxist country has anything to do with the politics there
May your bloodline end with you.
>>70823556
It wont end from the thoughts of my enemy.
>>70823556
Pretty much this honestly, I'd rather be a moral person in my own mind then take up some backward ass redundant thinking like some autistic feminist or SJW
>>70822163
Degeneracy: The post!
>>70823690
>words and concepts I don't understand!!!!
>d-d-degeneracy waaaaaah
Everything he said is objectively true. He just isn't using his own morality to dictate what he said.
Why the fuck is there a serious thread on /pol/?
Mods pls do your free jobs.
It is only morally wrong if you share a code of ethics that aligns with society's black and white laws. If you believe that the higher powers that be supersede society, then you are in your moral right to do what you must for yourself and your family. You owe society nothing, society owes you nothing. However, in doing so, your actions will cause society to respond, as you are breaking its code of shared morals.
>>70823404
>i mostly didn't take it
Kek
>>70823890
>Having to purposefully skew someone's words to make yourself feel right
Damn, that's sad as fuck, I feel bad for you.
>>70822309
>Had a shopping cart full of groceries and walked out without paying
How is this possible? Anyone anywhere would have to show the receipt at the exit to not be stopped by the guards
>>70824315
Seems more like a Colombian thing to me
I've never had to show my receipt at the exit anywhere. Not in here, not in Germany, not in Spain, not in the US
>>70821568
Is it morally wrong to have a family you can't financially support?
See I can do it too.
>>70824480
Too pure.
You guys are so pure and dazzling i have to look away.
>>70824095
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>>70821568
Having children when you are poor is morally wrong.
I will never understand why poor people have kids. I myself have a job that's barely above minimum wage. I can feed myself, but I cannot imagine actually having to support a kid. Why the fuck would people do that?
>>70825125
>I will never understand why poor people have kids.
when you're poor and pussy game is strong breeding happens
>>70821568
that loaf of bread belonged to someone and would feed its owner had you not stole it.
so yes.
>>70821816
Gonna go with this and other posters. Stealing to feed a family is a rarity in the west, as we have a number of prpgrams and foodbanks,but it's the most noble of theft. And no, college is not food, bernouts. While you can't just let people do it, it's hardly the worst crime ever, and we should be fairly ashamed as a culture to have let it get that far. Taking care of our people, our red white and blue tribe (or insert your tribe here) should be the first priority. It's our responsibility. A people should take care of its own people, assuming those people are willing to let us, help them. Preferably let us help them help themselves.
Now, feeding every hungry mouth in third world shit holes and illegal aliens, that's not our responsibility.
>>70821850
Thu shell not steal is litterary god given commadement by bible so WTF
>>70821760
>>70821816
>>70821915
>>70822223
>>70822592
>>70823162
how can anyone say no. you can litterary do a 30 min side job to buy yourself a fucking bread.
if you are fit enough to steal you are fit enough to wash someones windows.
>>70824616
Can confirm usa. They don't stop small bags or anyone looking clean cut. They will stop shady people, anyone in a hoody, very large carts of groceries (like overflowing ) and anything to do with electronics or RFID tagged stuff. Slow day they'll atop a few random to do there job, you mostly become accustomed to having your receipt out already cause your not a thieving shit and it's a legit request by a retailer. At my Walmart they have greeters doing it while often sorting restock items or something so they're not just staring people down all the time.
Beg and try to barter your physical service in exchange before ever stealing.
>>70825784
>if you are fit enough to steal you are fit enough to wash someones windows.
my homie
