Best ideology coming through
I fall with Paul
Libertarianism is inherently globalist.
So, no. I disagree with you...slightly.
Libertarians for Trump! We can have an actual libertarian after Trump kills the GOP
>>70805732
>traditionalism
ChucklingEvola.jpg
>>70805732
Do you mean actual libertarian with some state and closed borders or retarded anarchism?
basically dude weed of the right
Muh roads! Where are muh roads?!
What do libertarians think of standing armies? Militia is not enough in the XXI century.
>>70806011
Fuck roads, with libertarianism anyone worthwhile can afford a helicopter. Everyone else is dead.
OP must have chosen the wrong picture
>>70805732
>>70806131
>>70806114
but who makes the helicopter
>>70806071
Necessary evil. Be powerful enough to make demands without resorting to war
>>70806155
>>70805951
Actual libertarianism tbqh senpai
Or, in /pol/ layman terms, national libertarianism
>>70806011
US Constitution, Article 1 section 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
>To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
>>70806071
>To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
>>70806165
Worthwhile people. Lots of money will be going into consumer helicopter manufacturing since it will be the only viable mode of transport without roads.
>>70806180
>>70806295
>>70806305
>>70805732
fuck you OP is a fag
>>70805951
Why the fuck does everyone leap to LOL ANARCHY XD whenever liberatarianism is brought up? It's like /pol/ truly doesn't understand politics.
oh.
>>70806294
But would not rather have glorious autobahns, quadruple-decker trains, zeppelin airliners, supersonic passenger jets, AND helicopters?
>>70806327
>but muh roads
Agreed.
>>70805839
Not necessarily.
Thus the difference between laissez faire economies and an actual free market economy. At the moment foreign workers are being advantaged over local workers, cosmopolitanism is actually Marxist. In a free economy the government find simplistic solutions to making local workers more competitive.
>>70806482
Easy strawman, just like Godwins law and debating as the right wing.
>>70805732
This thread is lazy. OP, could you be a dear and actually link some content? Maybe you could create and share an info graphic that explains the differences between Libertarian-ism and Conservatism. Or you could link a short jew-tube video that you feel explains the benefits of your political thinking. Perhaps you could talk about the pros and cons objectively. Maybe you could create a poll for /pol/ to take, or link to one that you like, to gauge how close we are to Ron Paul'ism.
You just posted "Best ideology coming through"
Lazy OP. You come across like a kid. Step up your game a bit. You can do better.
>>70806553
>>70805732
Describe 10 things you would do in your ideal state of "freedom" that you can't do right now.
>>70806525
No. Autobahns are too expensive, Zeppelins blow up, supersonic passenger jets use too much fuel and crash, and trains are for poor people.
Getcha one of these without no tixes.
>>70806770
>>70805890
/pol/ will meme Gary Johnson or Rand Paul into office in 2020 or 2024
>be me
>be patriot
>wake up at 5:00 am for morning pledge of allegiance
>go to kitchen, while holding bible down stairs praising god
>get to kitchen, get on knees before pantry, and open it
>grab my PatriotPuffs cereal, made specially by the government
>verify my heritage, passport, and scan my eyes to open the bulletproof box
>pour cereal, each one has a camera trained on me to ensure my heart and soul is patriotic on descent into my body
>eat my cereal and perform my 6:00 am pledge
>run back upstairs to put on my Government Verified™ clothes
>put them on, and brush them off in the mirror to avoid being unpatriotic
>go to my assigned workplace at the gun factory, recently bumped to constitute 90% of the federal budget
>promptly pray as I enter the factory, and go to my post
>hum "the star spangled banner" as I'm putting my guns together
>go to lunch with fellow male workers, women can't work in the workplace anymore
>male workers and I discuss our love for the country which gives us so much liberty and freedom
>finish working overtime to make gun quota for the day
>drive home, obviously using Holy Oil to power my very standardized Cadillac
>get home with half a tank remaining
>kiss wife and kids, making it to the 5:00 pm pledge
>eat my stepfordian dinner with my family, discussing how much we praise America daily
>son will grow up to be a gun manufacturer just like me
>daughter will be a great housewife and be subservient to her man in the future
>go to bed at the perscribed curfew time in order to cut street crime rates
>say my nightly prayer and go to bed, eagles bounding over fences as I drift off, ready for another day of work in the morning
>>70806928
>Autobahns are too expensive
Not for the Reich
>Zeppelins blow up
Not anymore
>supersonic passenger jets use too much fuel
Not for the Reich
>and crash
Concord wasn't designed by the Reich's best minds
>trains are for poor people
But what about luxury first class cabins
>>70806784
Homeowners associations should be abolished.
They dictate what you can and can't do with your property, if you don't suck their cock they'll take your house.
>>70806482
Because some of you are anarchists. And also some of you are for open borders. You are not doing a good job policing and separating from them.
Not like I agree that much with you. Especially when talking social freedoms.
>>70806784
1.) Say anything I want without the NSA recording it
2.) Get a gun without applying for a may-issue license, subject to denial for any reason the state pleases, including "we don't feel like it"
3.) Pay less in taxes than the federal income, state income, half a dozen payroll, property, and sales taxes that are currently collected from me
4.) Build what I want to on property I own without a zoning board tell me that I can't
5.) Take recreational drugs without the threat of the government locking me up for twenty years.
6.) Pay a willing woman to have sex with me, ditto
7.) Buy imported products without the government artificially raising their price to protect industries that give it campaign contributions
8.) Start a business without a half-year-plus permitting process designed to protect existing permit holders from competition
9.) Take an Uber to the airport instead of a yellow taxi
10.) Be left the fuck alone.
>>70807328
>be home owner
>faggots that live around me fuck up their house
>they make my house worth less
ya, no.
>>70807342
Chaotic freedom is better than orderly tyranny.
But beaners and canadians can fuck off.
>>70807479
No because chaotic freedom will turn into unorderly tyranny. Getting twice the suffering and misery.
>>70805839
>Libertarianism is inherently globalist.
Depends on what you mean by "globalist". If you mean libertarians favor economic globalization, then yes, that's true.
It you mean libertarians favor the centralization of political power in to entities like the UN, the EU, the IMF, the World Bank, etc., then no, that is the literally opposite of what libertarians believe.
Also, libertarians aren't necessarily for open borders either. In an ideal libertarian society, maybe, but open borders are fundamentally incompatible with any type of welfare state. So it's a libertarian position to oppose free immigration until the welfare state is completely eradicated.
>>70807541
Not if you keep lynching the orderly tyrant. >>70807478
Get fucked, Canuck.
>Lol u owe $1200 in fees because you couldn't afford the $800 it would take to have your house repainted for the second year in a row, gib house pls.
>>70807699
Except you can't. Also you become one doing so.
>>70807478
You can't tell him what to do with his property just because of your house value. He doesn't owe you an increasing house value. If you view a house as an investment you have to accept that, like other investments, it might decline in value due to factors beyond your control. Same way if you and I both have shares in a company, and I'm going around telling the neighborhood "Yeah this business is trash, I'm selling my stake", you can't say "Hey, hey, you can't say that! If people think that those shares are a bad investment, the value of my shares will go down!"
>>70807478
>Guy owes $5k in fees because he paid his dues late
>Lol, nonjudicial foreclosure state. Lawyer fees piling up. May as well take his place and sell it for $300k, even though they own the place outright.
>>70806784
Buy and sell with non-hostile foreigners without interference (Tariffs and quotas)
Buy health insurance across state lines (Has been illegal for decades in the US)
Not paying for corporate subsidies (Crony capitalism)
Not having cash and property seized by IRS for not depositing enough or carrying too much (Civil asset forfeiture)
Not being forced by government to buy something from a company (Obongacare)
Start a business with minimal barriers to entry (Most regulation exists to protect producers from consumers)
Sell my labor at whatever price I choose (Minimum wage)
Just to name a few.....
babidaboopi lets get loopy
W-we're cool
R-right?
>>70807806
So what you're saying is that orderly tyranny is the only option? So we should just suck it up and accept our new master?
Orderly freedom is alright too. I'd just prefer chaos to tyranny if things ever became -too- orderly.
>you'll never see a Ron Paul presidency
>you'll never have someone that clear and consistent with real policy change
I give up guys. I'm just wanna watch all the good goy sheep argue between their two kike parties :( it's no use.
>>70807943
My argument is basically the same as any arguments here about degeneracy
>hurr degenerates weaken our society
>hurr you shouldn't tell me to care about my house, its my house I get to decide if I care or not
>>70807954
maybe tommy thumb up is ass should get around to paying his dues on time or he can get the fuck out of the neighbourhood
free country means he is free to fuck off
>>70808109
It's natural human hierarchy and evolution.
People don't get brainwashed by a dictator or tyrant (exceptions like communism do apply) they want him. And I would say most need him. No city can run without a mayor, no kingdom without a king and no Empire without an Emperor.
As long as nations choose their poison I don't care.
>>70805732 No tread me me or my planet
>>70808338
To quote my literal commie English friend when I told him about HoAs:
>m8, that's the most unamerican thing I've ever heard of.
Get fucked. Nobody owes you shit, because nobody should have the power to control what another man does with his land.
>>70808358
>Fascism
>Not a brainwashing ideology
>Different than communism
best one coming through
>>70808559
Not an argument
Anyone save that picture of that fag with the dont tread on me snake on his shoulder?
>>70807669
>Also, libertarians aren't necessarily for open borders either.
Sure if you want to ignore the basic principles of libertarianism. If I want to have mexican workers work my fields and live in shacks on my property, what is it the government business?
>>70808564
agreed much bettter!!
>>70808677
>t. facist
>>70808918
t. a person without an argument
>>70808564
I didn't even mention fascism. I don't even know how a paco like you thought about fascism.
All functional leadership systems require a leader.
>>70808651
pretty much desu
