Redpill me on the Civil War /pol/
States rights or was it ALL ABOUT SLAVERY? as most educated professors say?
Looking back far enough it was all about the jews.
What was the Golden Circle?
>>70795109
It was fought over immigration. The blleding heart South was letting Negros into the country by the metric fuck-ton and breeding with them, The North could not let this degeneracy stand and kicked the ever-loving shit out of the South.End of story.
>>70795109
Slavery, but not in the "evil whitey" way libcucks tell you.
The Southern economy was based on slavery. A minority of southerners owned slaves, made mad bank selling cotton to Europe, and then spent that money locally - ensuring the main inflow of cash to the south was the product of slave labor.
The North conversely was industrialized and made its money off the labor of free men. Which meant that while there was economic incentive in the South to support slavery, in the North slavery became just another virtue signal issue. As abolitionism gained traction in the North, the South grew more and more afraid they would be forced to abandon slavery [and thus destroy the Southern economy], so they chose to secede to protect their own economic interest.
The South didn't secede because they were obsessed with keeping blacks as slaves. They left because abolition of slavery would have a huge negative impact on their economy - which depended on cheap export of cotton to Europe.
There was a strict North/South divide
There could have easily been a war over tariffs
There almost was a war over tariffs in the 1830s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis
But in the end the Civil War was about slavery/sovereignty and taxes weren't the main issue.
Taxes were a factor though, not that anyone cares.
>>70795487
This is actually partially true
If the south had just kicked the niggers out we would own half of Mexico by now
Oh well, bravo Cletus
>>70795533
Doesn't that still leave the root cause as "slavery"?
I mean, despite it being that the South mostly wanted to secede for "money reasons", that was still hugely linked to slavery, not states rights.
>>70795657
The Southern system of unpaid internships was a problem in itself, since it displaced paid white workers, but the fact that the South abused that system to bring in unqualified and undesirable foreign workers that was the tipping point.
Captain America dies
>>70795615
Sigh.... why couldn't that map be reality....
For the south it was about slavery---specifically the spread of slavery into the western territories and what that meant regarding the balance of power in the federal government between 'slave' and 'free' states. The south wasn't looking forward to being a permanent political minority--especially on regarding an issue on which the entire southern economy depended.
For the north the war was simply an act to put down a rebellion. The act of southern secession was politically intolerable. While the cause of abolition eventually became a rallying cry, neither the political or military leadership nor the majority of the northern populace gave much consideration to the abolition of slaves in the south. In fact, most people in the north were worried that abolishing slavery in the south would lead to an exodus of black to northern states which they certainly didn't want. This was illustrated beautifully in the beginning of Spielberg's 'Lincoln' in the scene where the President and his Secretary of State meet with the couple from Missouri.
>>70795109
The state right they wanted to protect was the right to own slaves.
Now you know. So both, but really the second.
climate change
>>70795533
How is this not the libcuck reasoning? You're essentially saying that the South went to war for greed.
>>70796930
Because the southern rednecks got conned into dying for Tyrone
Kind of like how today they all die for Goldbergstein in Iraq.
>>70797342
>the South went to war for greed.
the average poor redneck went to war because he thought the North was invading and wanted to preserve southern culture(this is the source of southern pride)
The actual reason for the war was that the rich gentry wanted a few more shekels because slavery saved them money on labor costs.
In other words they ruined the country for a few more bucks. Many slave owners were jews and the Confederate Secretary of State was even jewish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_P._Benjamin
Also the confederate flag was changed from a cross to an X in order to be more tolerant to jews.
>Miles received a variety of feedback on this design, including a critique from Charles Moise, a self-described "Southerner of Jewish persuasion." Moise liked the design but asked that "the symbol of a particular religion not be made the symbol of the nation." Taking this into account, Miles changed his flag, removing the palmetto and crescent, and substituting a heraldic saltire ("X") for the upright one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America
Basically the civil war was a bunch of redpilled Northerners fighting against of bunch of idiot southerners who had been conned by jews.
Once Lincoln one the war he planned on kicking out all the blacks back to Africa, but a southerner killed him before he could.
>>70797748
That's the response I'm lookin for
>>70795109
It was all about slavery AND that was a good thing.
You need to understand, the Civil War was never supposed to be a war for free blacks! Everyone knew the blacks were a big, nasty problem. Lincoln's solution was that, since slavery was a moral evil, they should all be deported to Africa (and indeed, abolitionists had begun projects to settle escaped slaves in Western Africa... where they promptly enslaved their neighbors and set up their own Southern-style plantations). The South's solution was careful, paternalistic management.
In the end, though, Lincoln won and proved the South right. There was no way to get rid of the blacks and no way to bring them under control without coercive surveillance. (This would be a good place to mention that blacks are genetically poorly suited to climates north of the Mason-Dixon line. Before anti-biotics and routine vaccination, 5%-20% of the free blacks living in a northern city like Boston would die every single winter. This gave Northerners the impression that blacks were feeble and bound to die out sooner rather than later. That was part of the root of the totally misguided Northern stance on slavery.)
>>70798460
>proved the South right
Lincoln was assassinated by a southerner before his plan to deport the blacks could be enacted
>>70798460
I remember reading somewhere that the British simply bought all the slaves and thus ended their own slavery. I've always wondered what Lincoln's version of reconstruction would have looked like.
>>70797748
Except the Southsiders problem with the north was that they condemned slavery, yet paid Irish and Chinese immigrants pennies to die in factory's, blowing through mountains with TNT, and all sorts of other dangerous shit. All while forcing them to live in worse housing than slave quarters in giant fuckin cesspool bourrohs. If you really think the north was redpilled than youre just dropping blue pills out of your pocket like spaghetti
>>70798863
>killing 100k+ southerners....
>get shot by southerner for it
Justice.
Suffer not the tyrant.
>>70795109
>tfw slavery was a state's rights issue
educated professors know this. you have SJW professors, they distort the truth
>>70799223
And now your country is filled with nigs, which lincoln wanted to prevent. Happy?
>>70799192
>yet paid Irish and Chinese immigrants pennies to die in factory's,
The North banned Chinese from entering and lowering wages near California.
Real wages in the North were the highest in the world at the time (outside the UK) even for Irish immigrants.
>>70799223
Lincoln was trying to save the south from being raped by niggers for the rest of eternity
and the south shot him for it
Ironically Lincoln loved southern culture and the south in general his favorite song was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YR23ss1_n0
>>70799564
>Still, "Dixie" was not rejected outright in the North. An article in the New York Tribune, c. 1908, said that "though 'Dixie' came to be looked upon as characteristically a song of the South, the hearts of the Northern people never grew cold to it. President Lincoln loved it, and to-day it is the most popular song in the country, irrespective of section
>>70795109
Literally every article of secession raised slavery as the main cause of the South's secession.
Elementary School: You learn the Civil War was about slavery.
High School: You learn the Civil War was about States' Rights
Finally: You learn the Civil War was about the States' Right to own other people.
>>70795109
Oh yes it was all about slavery. Wealthy Jewish bankers were so upset about the way niggers were treated that the funded white armies, who were equally concerned with niggers, so much so that they were willing to give their lives.
It had nothing to do with state's rights, taxation, or the issue of currency.
>>70799520
>implying the federal overreaching isn't to blame
>implying Lincoln isn't the cause
>implying the big government faggot didn't put us on the path we are on today
>implying he didn't deserve death
Wew lad...
>>70800884
Oy vey!
>>70800884
"States' Rights, Taxation, Currency"
All of which have their root cause in slavery.
>>70796815
Does he really? Why?
>>70795109
shoop
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in my time
>>70801118
In the comics anyway. Dunno about the movie.
In short, slavery is what caused the south to leave the union, but not necessarily what the war was fought over.
>>70800887
>blaming Lincoln for trying to save the South from niggers
>>70795109
It was about money. The South provide a disproportional amount of money to a government which was increasingly hostile to their way of life, and, when Lincoln was elected without a single Southern state, it signaled to the South that they were being played for fools.
It was the exact opposite of having a representative government, so they left.
