>Climate change doesn't exist
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/mar/02/climate-scientists-worry-about-the-costs-of-sea-level-rise
>For the first time we derive general relations on how damage from coastal floods increases with sea level rise and on how the damage decreases with the height of hypothetical protection measures such as sea walls. The results are based on mathematical proofs exploring extreme value statistics and are of universal validity. We conclude that the expected annual damage always, i.e. for an arbitrary case study, increases faster than the sea level itself.
/pol/ BTFO
lrn2eustasy
>>70791507
They can just put a drain at the bottom of the ocean like in a sink. Problem solved.
>universal validity
lel
I don't live on a coast and I can do without California wine and Florida oranges. So fucking die!
>>70791507
>The results are based on mathematical proofs exploring extreme value statistics and are of universal validity.
>>70791507
>the guardian
Anthropogenic Climate change is a bullshit hoax perpetuated by government in order to control the business class & supported only by the uneducated and naive.
Put a long hose into space and throw out the excess water to the moon. Problem solved.
>>70791507
I agree with climate change, but every prediction they make is false as shit.
Sea levels will rise a meter in the next 100 years, maybe.
>>70792127
Do you realize how huge a 1 meter rise in sea level is?
>>70792127
1 meter can be troublesome for swampdwellers like me.
I can't give a shit. Living in upstate NY enjoying my warm winter here.
>>70791811
False, it is a fraud of epic proportions, we are already well into the trillions but I hope sea levels rise anyway, they can fluctuate wildly over geological time. With the last ice age only 20k years ago, a blip in geological time, a substantial rise is possible, as is another ice age.
Being silly apes that only live 80 years or so, it is all quite meaningless except the part about a pseudo global government taking your fossil fuels away when you live in a fucking oil age! It is for all intensive purposes, a declaration of war by global government against the individual, a war against your future, standard of living and ability to survive.
>>70792272
It's simple. Just build a wall around your country to keep the sea out.
>>70791507
rising sea levels has just about as much to do with climate change than it does with plate tectonics. look at Hawaii, the east most island is slowly sinking into the water, where as the east most is gaining in land mass. but gee, lets just ignore all the factors involved and focus on one, that will surely fix the unfix-able problem.
why not just do what Human's do best, adapt
>>70792459
They already did that.
We can't fix climate change so long as India and China exist.
>>70792272
that one city where they use rivers for roads is building something similar to what >>70792459
proposed at the openings into their bay to keep water levels down mainly because their city is sinking along with the rise in tide
don't care, won't be around when this becomes an issue
>>70792187
>>70792272
>tfw you visit old Device Forts built as coastal defense emplacements by Henry VIII
>that are now hundreds of feet inland because sea level has dropped from the Medieval Warm Period
>>70792459
They literally did that, and it's actually pretty amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUqrBV4SiqQ
Houseboat master race.
>>70791507
>no warming for almost 19 years straight, and growing.
>no perceptible sea level rise anywhere on Earth.
your religion is dying.
>>70791507
I hope the sea levels do rise. The coasts are inhabited by some of the worst folk we have here in America. And those who are worth two shits on the seaside are the boat people and will survive a rise in sea levels. Hell, it would be better for them. More places for catching fish to feed, more catching fish to catch. Drown the liberals, feed the fish, if you ask me. The catching fish are worth 100 times more than some stupid hippie, definitely.
>>70791507
The sea level was actually higher back in the days.
And I'm not speaking about prehistory
>>70792550
Hawaii moves because it's on a volcano hotspot, shut your mouth
>>70792415
Explain
>>70791507
So what? Who gives a shit? The Koch brothers have money to make! That's way more important!
MUH COAL!
>>70793044
>doesn't realize kochs are actually tree hugging liberals.
of course i bet you think george soros is almost a God.
>>70791507
OH NOES THE END OF THE WORLD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_glaciation
>>70793175
>doesn't realize kochs are actually tree hugging liberals.
Jesus christ. Right wing retards are the biggest morons on the planet.
>>Climate change doesn't exist
the koch borthers and their other oil baron friends have been funding that lie for a long time with a number of front orgnzations that publish white papers and studies to make it sound legitimate, so over time people get the idea thier is another sotry or doubt, then newspapers start bealiving it, and repeating it.
It's close to what the tobacco industy did to cast doubt on lung cancer and smoking.
They even hired some of the same people and the same ad firm!
>tl:dr if you like global warming is a myth, you are a koch brother tool taking it up the ass
My municipality is going to go completely broke without some sort of provincial and federal intervention because of this.
I've given up arguing with retards that say climate change doesn't exist though. I just accept it's going to happen because people are going to deny it until it becomes a full blown crisis.
>The world becomes like Wind Waker
>tfw californian
>tfw no water
>tfw global warming saves us
>>70791507
sea level faggots btfo
it's not like one day there's just going to be giant waves crashing on the shores killing people it's a gradual process
also the argument isn't that climate change is a myth, it's man made climate change
nobody ever said we had a stable climate retard, we're still coming out of an ice age
I just want the world to be Mad Max 2
I'm not one of those faggots thinking they will rule the wasteland. Fuck that crazy shit, life isn't a movie, most kings get killed eventually.
Grab my shotgun, rifle, pistol, get 3-4 dogs, car, eke out a reasonable existence as a raider. Build a town in my older years.
>>70792795
Also we're constantly pumping water out of areas or tunnels get flooded and whatnot, serious shit can hit the fan with long power outages.
>>70791507
Cali was supposed to be underwater over 15 years ago, when will they just drown?
>>70793256
>>70793306
Also like this anon said, it's basically what the tobacco industry did. People have made themselves puppets of oil and gas thinking their being edgy and rebelling against the climate change hoax.
The only real dispute is how effective anti-climate change measures actually are, and how fast climate change is going to happen. But people still want to argue that climate change isn't happening at all, or that humans have no impact on the environment.
>>70791507
Remember when they were saying California was supposed to be underwater by 2012...what happened?
>>70793521
>it's not like one day there's just going to be giant waves crashing on the shores killing people it's a gradual process
Numerous places are protected by sea walls and flood banks, an extreme weather event like a cyclone could breach those drowning millions of degenerates.
>>70793306
It'll go broke but not because of the environmental tax scam. It'll go broke because your country is governed by morons and traitors.
>>70791507
As a kid I used to ride that coaster all the time
>>70791507
>>Climate change doesn't exist
no shit climate change exists. everyone who has looked up knows that fact.
what everyone is arguing about is whether or not humans cause change.
The evidence is literally fucking undeniable. I don't understand you people
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/changing-climate-10-years-after-inconvenient-truth
All they did was some math to figure out how much it would hurt
>>70791507
Typical climate change bullshit. Sucker in the idiots with a picture of coastal erosion, not sea levels rising.
>>70791971
UK naturally being the first to suggest a long phallic object as a solution.
Is the man in that image your wifes boyfriend?
>>70793917
>Sumner
Pure coincidence.
>>70793917
What is it about volleyball in particular that makes vball players so THICK? They remind me of the vball players back in high school.
>>70794091
Lower body strength probably.
>>70794081
Ignore the name, look at the evidence mentioned in that article.
It's physical proof
>>70793917
>frozen areas still largely frozen
>desert areas still largely dry and hot
>jungles areas still largely lush and wet
>>70791507
If you really believe in climate change....
Then buy some future beach from property and laugh your way to the future.
What's the big problem? Climate change is real, but it's happened in the past and it will happen in the future. Sea levels are not constant, they've been lower and they've been higher.
Show me one single solution which reverses climate change. You can't. It doesn't exist.
>>70793862
That's why people don't even want to argue with you.
right now we have the left, and they're going, man, climate change caused by greenhouse gases like co2 and methane is really bad and we will get a ton of return on investment if we reduce that
The right goes, no, you're overblowing the effects of that, and the measures you're proposing are more effort then they're worth. They'll point out that some climate scientists aren't intellectually honest and some of the "evidence" of climate change is actually due to factors like coastal erosion.
Then there is the HURR DURR HUMANS DON'T IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT wing that is still stuck in a 2000-era bush/oil/gas bootlicker mindset and are still talking about shit like sunspots that have long failed to account for all of global warming.
>>70794297
Deserts should be very small or not exist. The Soviets destroyed Central Asia and the Aral Sea because of the species of cotton they planted and the dams they built. The Aral Sea is pretty much gone at this point.
>>70791507
>Climate change doesn't exist
Only retards say this
Climate changes but that's just nature. How the fuck do you think the previous ice ages happened?
>>70791507
Casino pier after sandy? The storm mussed the scum
Like seriously here in BC we absolutely destroyed our concrete industry with a carbon tax. While the carbon tax wasn't impactful for all industries one as energy intensive as concrete production was hit hard, while imported concrete didn't have to suffer from the tax, which ended up murdering our industry.
I try to explain to people "oh we shouldn't apply carbon taxes to industries like the concrete industry because it ends up just causing people to buy from countries that are even more environmentally unfriendly than Canada you fucking lefttards" but then someone like you chips in after and goes "YEAH - AND GLOBAL WARMING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMANS" and everything I say gets discredited by retards. I get lumped in with fucking oil/gas bootlickers.
Climate change is just part of nature, as people in this thread are saying. In this case, nature has produced a species known as humans that have accelerated climate change by expelling greenhouse gases into the air. Climate change in the past has happened due to other natural phenomena, but this is what is happening this time.
Like do you guys not understand you guys make the right look fucking retarded when you pretend humans aren't impacting the environment?
>>70791507
>the guardian
Should of stopped reading there boys.
>>70794625
that's a brilliant scientific conclusion, Health Pack.
I can't believe the scientists didn't come up with that one: ice ages! Yes, truly since it was a different temperature before, no evidence that implicates Humans is relevant.
>>70794625
when they say "climate change doesnt exist" they mean "humans are not affecting climate change"
You couldn’t get 97% of Italians to agree the Pope is Catholic.
Anyone who believes that 97% of scientists think human activity is the cause of global warming appears to be ignorant of the OISM Petition, in which more than 30,000 American scientists co-signed a statement saying that more CO2 is harmless, and beneficial to the biosphere.
There is nothing comparable from the climate alarmist crowd, whose numbers are much smaller than generally assumed.
>>70794344
There is nothing we can really do about it. However if the entire world enacts a small amount of taxation on carbon emissions we can make it unprofitable to cause a lot of carbon emissions to make a very small amount of money. In other words, we make people pay for a fraction of the financial costs in the future that they're causing.
One needs to be very careful about how one impliment something like this because you can end up shutting down energy-intensive industry and cause customers to buy from countries with more lax environmental standards.
Nuclear and alternative energy sources produce less carbon emissions than oil/gas.
There is some sense in incentivizing technologies that produce less carbon emissions but I feel we're already doing enough of that.
>>70794868
My argument isn't that humans have no impact with greenhouse gases, but rather that we haven't discerned the primary factor. Should humans still attempt to reduce greenhouse gases? Probably. Do I think we are the primary factor? No. How has volcanic activity/sun activity changed over the past time? How much of it has been due to deforestation and damage to ocean flora? I haven't seen anyone explain the impact of those so I am skeptical.
>>70791656
>hurdurr the coastline doesnt matter
The people there may be fucking retarded, but its a danger to our shipping logistics, which essentially is the groundwork of the US economy.
Oh no people have to move inland. Too bad. Wouldnt kenysians love this anyhow look at all the new buildings/broken windows that will have be replaced by the move inland!
>>70791811
>it has to be one way or the other
Youre just as bad as the people claiming its 100% man made. The fact of the matter is that this is a natural process as we've been coming out of an ice age, but that doesnt change the fact that we're putting chemicals into the atmosphere and ocean which speed up what is a natural process. What do you think happens to all the carbon we put up in the air? It gets mixed into the atmosphere, and in some cases finds its way onto ice sheets, which can darken the ice increasing the temperature upwards of 10 degrees f. Carbon is not something you want in your atmosphere in high ammounts retards, it can and will effect the current weather and in the long term the over all climate.
>>70794868
Taxing business's is fucking retarded, and will just piss people off, and rightly so. Besides china is the real problem. The correct approach is to look towards innovative technologies, maybe not throw money at everything but at least leave the door open for an alternative power source.
>>70791507
>>Climate change doesn't exist
Wait, it's not global warming anymore?
I can't wait for climate stagnation when some usual weather pattern doesn't happen and all you faggy lil econiggers whine about that too
Can't win with you prissy lil shits
>truth is based on popular opinion
>physics is based on population opinion
>science is based on concensus
WHY DONT YOU GUYS BELIEVE IN SCIENCE!!
God these mouth breathers are almost worthy of a novel.
I wish there was a stock market or way to bet against global temperature increases, I could make a fortune
Would long term Natrual gas futures work for this?
>>70796301
I should note that chinas industry is indeed the problem as they do not give a fuck about environmental concerns.
However, first world countries do emit more carbon per capita largely because a first world standard of living is very high carbon.
I actually think taxation is the solution IF WE CAN GET EVERYBODY ONBOARD because it disincentivizes creating a lot of carbon emissions for very small gains in profitability. As it is now companies and individuals that blow CO2 and methane and such into the air are essentially pushing the costs of their business onto future generations, and really don't have to worry about those future costs. We need to make it so people feel a fraction of the impact of the greenhouse gases they're putting into the air immediately. However, the bigger the tax gets the more diminishing the returns.
Make these taxes revenue neutral to make it easier for the right to swallow the bitter pill of government getting bigger.
Then invest a small amount of money into tech that will reduce carbon emissions.
>>70793917
if we wanted to lower sea levels 20ft what would be a good way to do that?
>tfw Atlantis was real
>>70791507
>climate scientists
>pls fund my research
>>70791507
>coastal areas are going to be destroyed!
well we're just gonna have new, clean coastal areas then
>>70794344
>Then buy some future beach from property and laugh your way to the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkdbSxyXftc
>>70795773
Leafag wanting more taxes. The ultimate solution for all problems. Gotta be a Trudeau voter.
>>70799327
I was in a CPC/Lib riding and I did vote for weedman, I thought I'd just say that so you knew you were right.
>>70795773
Just exactly how cucked are you?
>>70799573
I actually supported bringing in rapefugees despite knowing they commit above average amounts of crime and such because muh morals.
>>70799691
>Supported
Does that mean your opinion has changed?
>>70799414
Gotta admit, would have been hard to miss that shot, Greenleaf.
>>70799812
Not really the rapefugees haven't caused any problems in Canada yet.
I'm pretty aware of the percentage of them that are ISIS sympathizers. Also since everybody on the left believes that minorities only commit crime due to income inequality, they should admit to themselves that poor rapefugees are going to create more crime just purely on merit of being more poor before we even get into religious/racist stuff.
But you know, I heard that poor syrians were in terrible conditions and I wept girly tears and voted for Trudeau.
>>70799573
No cuckimeter on earth can measure such unprecedented amount of cuck.
>>70791507
> cars created the ice age
> factories created the global warming that thawed the ice
Kill yourself.
>>70799985
You can bring some in safely if you can get them to assimilate, but they don't want to assimilate because they think their barbaric culture is acceptable and refuse to think otherwise. Partly because of Saudi funded extremism and partly because of the lack of a strong secular movement like Christianity had.
Also you aren't helping them if they start attacking people and the government then bombs them. That only perpetuates the problem and causes the rapefugees in Canada and all across the west to be in danger.
>>70800659
Well I'm not really expecting most of them to assimiliate, I'm expecting most of their asses to get kicked out and sent back to Syria once Assad finishes kicking everyones asses. Taking in rapefugees is about charity, not about helping Canada. Some will stay of course but a lot won't.
I don't agree that taking in refugees doesn't help refugees. The consequence to a bunch of rapefugees bombing the people and government is that we stop taking them in, if we don't take them in in the first place then they suffer those consequences before they even do anything.
If they blow their chance to live in a safe first world country fuck them honestly. If things get out of hand I'll admit it was a bad idea.
Australia is having its hottest recorded autumn in all of written history. Not by a small margin either, it has totally smashed the previous records.
>>70792459
It's called a levee and you don't want to live by one because the gubmint finni blow it up and sick Chris Kyle on yo ass
>>70791709
Welcome to Actuarial Science.
>Actuarial science is the discipline that applies mathematical and statistical methods to assess risk in insurance, finance and other industries and professions. Actuaries are professionals who are qualified in this field through intense education and experience.
It's literally the $300k starting, PhD in Mathematics STEM meme job.
Boring as shit, extremely difficult, but really good fucking money if you can do it.
>>70793741
>>70793256
Not just tobacco, the fucking lead industry did the same damn thing, down to the letter. Then we found out it was, without a doubt, harming us, and we stopped using lead in fucking everything.
Climate change denialists are the same fucking sheep who fell for the lead and tobacco meme. I wouldn't be surprised if they used lead paints and still smoke cigarettes.
>>70792970
I was pissed at first but then kek'd because I'd be crushing some new teritory on my 28' Kevlar hull hydra sport, eating mad fish and 360 no scoping all boats on the horizon
>>70794081
>>70794091
Just a heads up, thats a rugby ball
>>70801355
Tobacco industry's attempting to do the same stuff with vaping. Including putting out their own intentionally harmful vape products to get all vape products banned.
Ever wonder where the >fedora vape meme comes from?
It's the fucking wacky tobacky industry m8s
>Climate """""""""""""""scientists""""""""""""""
>Mexican """"""""""""""Intellectuals"""""""""""
>>70791507
Until we reign in China and India there's not much we can do about anything.
>>70801465
Yeah, the Tobacco industry is fucking scummy as shit. The lead industry is dead in the water, though.
The only industry that got shitcanned that didn't deserve to was the asbestos industry. The EU was fucking retarded, still is desu, and fucked that industry up because of a couple of idiots with shitty "scientific reports".
>>70795406
>health pack
Tfw overwhelming sense of nostalgia from pub stomping on L4D
Anyone that thinks climate change doesn't exist is a fucking retard. Anyone that thinks cars and factories ended ice ages is also a retard.
>>70791656
>only wine
fucking wew
>Like
>>70796109
>which speed up those natural processes
So the whole argument is:
>Bad thing X is going to happen
>we can marginally stem bad thing X by doing Y but bad thing X is still going to happen
>>70800931
I am not saying that taking in refugees doesn't help refugees, but that taking them in indiscriminately doesn't help them because it puts them at risk of the back lash if one of them goes nutzo and blows his or herself up in a hockey game or some shit.
I would argue that the consequence of rapefugees bombing people isn't just them not being let in, but if you look at some of the back lash across europe, especially the French government bombings (Which aren't equal to what I am about to bring up), and the people of Europe becoming significantly more anti-muslim and militaristic towards the middle east, the consequences clearly aren't worth it.
Naturally this mostly applies to the idiotic Merkel policy.
>>70792187
>>70792272
Lets just say 1 meter is the rise.
Apart from economic problems like shipping channels, etc
We live in a time where Malaria, Dengue, Yellow fever and now Zika are spreading how do you think out efforts to contain them will go if the worlds coastlines are filling with stagnant boggy inaccessable estuary waters?
You want the human race to get massive casualties increase the mosquito numbers dramatically over time.
>>70799691
So you're a cuck?
>>70800931
>sent back to Syria
And if they don't want to leave?
Are you going to send police raids to their homes?
>>70791971
Kek fuck you. I got water in my nose
>>70793734
You didn't wake up San Andreas-san anon.
>>70800931
>>70799985
>>70793741
>>70793306
>>70794868
I'm 100% serious
You browse Reddit
It's very obvious from your posting style
You try WAY too hard not to offend anyone
Just go back
>>70794423
Deserts are actually expanding.
Most deserts are equatorial, and the way major air cells flow, water is typically moved from the equator to the poles. When the E/I balance is perturbed by increases in air and water temperature, it leads to more water being transported away from the equator, which increases desertification through water shortage.
>>70802637
He probably does, but it seems like he is at least trying to fit in. He isn't afraid to call them rapefugees, at least. Plus he isn't shitposting.
>>70802219
You send in police to remove kebab
>>70791507
>Abraham
>building your metropolis below sea level
>rebuilding it again
HNNNGGGGGG
>>70802637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn3ZmcI4zs
>>70795800
>How have volcanic activity and sun activity changed?
These phenomena are well understood and accounted for in climate synthesis reports.
>How much of it has been due to deforestation and damage to ocean flora?
The damage to ocean flora at least is largely a result of ocean acidification, which occurs due to greater atmospheric CO2 concentrations. Either way, these are both anthropogenic factors.
>>70791507
>>climate change doesn't exist
OH shut the fuck up already. Barely anyone says that, MANMADE climate change is bullshit. Saying that we can do something about it is bullshit...
>>70792795
we can build a wall to keep a motherfucking nature out.
you can't build a wall to keep mexicans out.
Murica plz...
>>70800957
The Yukon has also had a unprecedented winter and spring. We broke high temperature records by about 10 degrees for a few days in March, and just about every day this winter has been several degrees above the normal high temperature.
Of course, we have that Pacific high ridge that's been tootling around for a few years.
>>70791507
>mathematical proofs exploring extreme value statistics
>extreme value statistics
>extreme value
>extreme
In other words, values that are unusual / far above the normal results recorded.
>erroneous data
>>70803045
You know how Dubai gets to have its islands without the currents smashing them to bits? We built a wall around them, just like how we sealed off a portion of the Zuiderzee for reclamation purposes.
Dutch aqua-engineering.
>>70802637
Who cares you fucking faggot, are you the guardian of 4chan or something?
>climate """"scientists""""
>>70802797
I don't care
He has to go back
>>70803611
I care
He has to go back
>>70803611
No. Im the Guardian Of 4Chan.
Why arent you shitposting negro?
Don't make me get the outside whip
>>70803693
goyim only listen to "the scientists"
>>70803904
It's called traveling, like you should travel your ass down to the gas station to get some petrol to sniff.
>>70791507
Let the dutch worry about the sea level you fucking faggot. And not even the dutch give a shit now fuck off you turbohomo supernerd.
>>70791507
Why the fuck are all these articles put out like I immediately need to drop all my shit that I'm doing and save the planet? This isn't my concern, nor should be. If this is such a major problem, then the government needs to handle it, but enough about bothering me with it.
come home white man
>>70803800
I'm a big enough man to admit when I'm wrong. You're right and he should go back.
BUILD A WALL
>>70793250
Who let you in here?
>>70804058
Touche.
But the government gives petrol to abos for free here yank.
>Been on 4chan since '07
Fuck you all, get off my site normies.
>>70804373
>>70802797
>>70802637
>>70804657
Typical Reddit response lad
No one invokes "I've been on here since X"
*sighs 4 dimensionally* leave
>>70804343
He's right though.
I remember seeing him in Sydney not long after this.
He justified by saying certain areas of the world are just not conducive to sustaining hugely inflated numbers of human life.
He then went on to say the genetically engineered Tasmanian salmon everyone was eating was invented in Canada and full of antibiotics and toxins and was extremely unhealthy
>>70794423
>deserts should be
>very small or not exist
Finally, a grand bastion of climate knowledge has come unto the boards, to give to us their great, well sourced, learned dissertation!
Or maybe desert areas have existed that way (in cycles) for tens of thousands of years at the least, and you're a fucking dipshit.
>>70804855
Don't worry, just because you've only been on 4chan a few months doesn't mean we judge you as being inferior. We've a very welcoming community.
>>70792272
time to become neo-Venezia the country
>>70791507
>Climate Scientists
You mean the people whose whole field of study and research grant money that depends of alarmist shit going on are saying something alarming is going to happen?
NO
KEKING
WAY
:O :O :O
I read a weather forum sometimes where most of the posters are meteorologists and atmospheric scientists with post graduate qualifications and/or PhD's in their respective fields. They have an entire section of the forum dedicated to climate change and they argue about it all the time.
So no, evidently the science is not settled.
americanwx.com
Reminder that atmospheric scientists are the only people on the planet truly qualified to make a determination about this issue.
>>70804855
So how long have YOU been here for, chump? 2015?
>>70805827
By that logic, anti-vaxxers also have legitimacy because I'm sure there's forums on the web that have sections dedicated to whether or not they cause autism.
>>70791507
They are worried about money that's for sure, the funding they need to justify their existence through fear mongering. No "climate scientist" projections have come even remotely true.
>>70791507
>I'm a climate change masturbator and I don't understand how isostacy works
Lurn2geoscience
Besides, it's ocean acidification that's the thing to worry about.
>>70791507
In my opinion, Global Warming is real, but it cannot be stopped.
Simply reducing emissions won't work, because of the damage already done.
You'd have to completely shut down all human industry and then billions would starve, which would be really cool.
>>70793542
A man after my own heart.
>>70807240
[citation needed]
>>70791507
>>Climate change doesn't exist
o rly man
it went from man made warming, to warming, to cooling, to warming again, to change, and now the sea levels
the climate changes yes.
What is controversial is the political decisions in response to those changes and possible sharlatans who try to make money with this invisible enemy.
not the climate.
>>70791507
Sissy ass scientists get worried over all kinds of shit
>>70808352
Sure thing, Pajeet. Just don't blame anyone but yourself when your 100,000,000 of your countrymen become desperate refugees because you couldn't see the writing on the wall and let climate change happen.
The huge problem with the whole climate change thing is that people have the completely wrong idea of what climate change actually is. I agree entirely that it is laughable how the predictions have turned out, but it's just as laughable to believe that climate change does not exist.
As the simplest way to explain this, think of your car. Your car uses gasoline that was basically distilled from oil, which was "drilled" from a reservoir under the Earth's surface. This oil is the remains of carbon based lifeforms that have through millions of years became the oil and coal that we burn for energy.
When you burn oil, gasoline, etc. you are releasing carbon that had been stored in the Earth, into the atmosphere. It is literally changing the composition of the atmosphere. And when the composition changes, the climate changes. Were it not for humanity's desire of these energy sources, this carbon would stay trapped in the Earth.
What exact changes that would come are not possible to define, however we are lucky enough to live on a planet that is habitable for life, so why should we be performing acts that could change that? The answer is that this is the product of progress.
>>70808949
except carbon is fucking irrelevant to temperature of the earth
>>70808880
I don't know how all you guys on pol picture us Indians in your minds but we're not Africa tier pathetic you know
>>70801100
Too bad it's mostly bullshit, like psychology, or investment banking. Sure, there are a few people with actual methodology and proof, but most of it is literal bull shit.
>>70809487
Again proving the point that people don't understand what climate change is. When sunlight hits the earth, a large portion of it is turned into infrared radiation (heat). When the heat leaves the Earth, parts of it get trapped by molecules in out atmosphere (why really hot humid days are worse than really hot dry days). Carbon in its common form in the atmosphere of CO2 absorbs a lot of this heat. The heat that is absorbed is emitted in every direction (some away from the Earth, some back towards the Earth) and that which is radiated back towards Earth must be reflected off the surface again (raising what we consider temperature), and can then also be captured by CO2 molecules again, and on and on.
We are releasing more carbon into the atmosphere. More carbon means more infrared radiation is absorbed on the way out by our atmosphere. This means that more infrared radiation is reemitted back towards the surface increasing temperatures.
>>70809502
yes you are
>>70795801
>water level moves up
>ports get closer to the middle of the continent
Seems fine to me
