The orange man. How does he pay for the wall when Mexico refuses?
>>70790646
Hopefully he'll use this a pretext to start a war. I can only imagine how enjoyable shelling mexico city will be.
They won't refuse. He's outlined a ton of ways to make them pay. Look it up, not gonna list them all
>>70790646
We cut foreign aid to Mexico until compensated for the cost.
Crash Mexico.
>>70790646
TARIFFS?
get em on board, I'll sign the bill.
>>70791165
Any links
>>70791165
>>70791230
Mexico would rather burn to the ground at the chance to tell Trump and the U.S. to fuck off. This is an emotional war that they see fueled by racism, logic won't play a part here.
>>70791300
With
>>70790646
The we tariff retard.
WALL?
>>70791378
>>70791230
>We cut foreign aid to Mexico
what is this "aid" amerilards love to spout?
US govmnt gives pennys and some shitty guns to "combat" druglords and nothing more.
Please post annual figures about that "aid" you talk about.
This isn't fucking somalia you fucking amerijewcuck
Tell me about the Jew.
Why does he wear the cap?
>>70791618
>>70790646
100% Tax on all wire transfers to Mexico. Tariffs, Tariffs, Tariffs. Cut all foreign aid. Constant diplomatic pressure to rival party to submit to paying the wall.
Take it out of their child support.
>>70791632
Wait, you are whining that they aren't giving you enough free shit? Now i understand why they want to build the damn wall in the first place.
>>70790860
just dump more weapons for the spic cartels. its practically a civil warthere as it is.
>>70791230
>We cut foreign aid to
Those 400 hundred million are just to grease crooked politicians you dumb shit.
Go back to your trap threads.
>>70790646
We cut off foreign aid to mexico
>>70792338
Meaning more money for the US and less for degenerate spics.
>>70790646
Moar like how does he even gets the GOP nomination, fucking cúck! :DDD
>>70792069
No one is bitching about not getting enough gibs me, is the shitposters here that think they give us gorrilions of dollars and is only used military gear and some money for intel, and the money ends up in the politicians. No money comes here from the US, now guns on the other hand, yeah they keep their cartels well armed. Murricans suck ass.
>>70791632
http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico
About 13% of 200 mil in 2012 was for combating the criminals in your shithole.
>>70792443
Noone is asking you for fucking gibs you fat fuck, your agencies think that is good business to give money to Mexico and they do. Sadly for us and you that money is for their fucked up ops.
>>70790646
Remember the Alamo?They refused quite a bit then.That worked out.
>>70790646
I know this was a bane thread, but I seriously have to bite with all these tariff tards..
You autists do understand that the reason Mexico is 'beating us in trade' (aka -trade deficit) is because companies in Mexico are selling shit to US companies...shit we actually consume en masse. You don't just magically start tariffs on foreign imports without directly impacting consumer prices. You Trumplets and TRump himself is retarded (muh 150IQ) to think you can actually magically erase the trade deficit between countries without raising the price on shit you consume daily by <100%.
>>70792649
>200 mil in 2012 was for combating the criminals in your shithole.
And the weapons they fight are murricans sent here by their beloved senators.
Go fuck with a roo bruce, you have no idea of what is going on.
>>70792519
Lol you trump supporters should really only have this on your mind.
>>70791376
I hope this is true, i want another kind of oil spill in the gulf
>>70792860
Bread and circus pacify the people
so we remove their bread
>>70791632
>Please post annual figures about that "aid" you talk about.
>>70792924
>WAH WAH ITS UR FAULT I KEEP SHITTING MY PANTS
lel
>>70791355
Go to his official campaign site. Do you even internet brah?
>>70792924
You're a salty lil jumpin bean aren't ya m8? I posted some facts and you respond with MEMES LOL xDDD
I guess you know you will be paying for that wall, eh Pablo?
>>70791632
meany beany is scared
>>70792860
He'll cut federal taxes to compensate for it. Besides, as American businesses begin to better, wages will rise, mitigating the problem.
>>70792860
I consume nothing from Mexico on a daily basis. I actively avoid buying Mexican products when possible. This sort of thing is waking people up to how the memes of technological inevitability or economic inevitability have just been political cheats to circumvent democracy.
>>70792649
lawl 200 millions, don't you feel a little embarrased posting that link? hahahahahahaha 200 millions, thanks amerilards!
I bet you were expecting like 3 """""billions"""""" at least
>>70793083
Is not a fucking meme if its the truth anon. Fast and furious, god knows there has to be countless other similar operations conducted by those niggers but we know about F&F because they fucked that one up.
>>70793210
trumpfaggots everyone
I bet you think mexican products are tacobell and avocados hahahahahah
>>70791632
Your country is a shithole, pedro. You and Juan are gonna pay us to build a wall to keep you out. There's nothing you can do about it.
>>70793210
We dont manufacture hotpockets you fat nigger.
>>70793262
How much do you think the wall is going to cost?
How much better do you think your country is going to be without all that aid?
>LMAO THEY ONLY GAVE US 200 MILLION NOT 3 BILLION
pic related retard
I can see why they want to build a wall you guys are seriously dense.
>>70793262
That's just one source of income.
It doesn't matter anyway. The wall will pay for itself in less than a year by stopping the flood of illegal immigrants coming into the country to have more anchor baby welfare recipients
>>70793483
>amerilards lap dog
lawl
>>70792069
Ohhhh bringing the heat
>>70793210
"U.S. imports of agricultural products from Mexico totaled $17.7 billion in 2013, the 2nd largest U.S. supplier. "
Do you just eat hotpockets and doritos you fat fuck? If not, enjoy paying $6 for an avocado.
Plus tariff the remaining 260b and see how the subsequent industries affected react.
>>70793580
mexico is a literal 3rd world country without american support.Have fun getting over the wall bean bitch
>>70793580
>amerilards lap dog
They don't prop up our country with aid :^)
Cutting funds to Mexico.
>>70790646
Go to his website you fucking retard. The wall is one of the most rational and feasible plans he has.
>>70793654
I don't eat that. Interesting that you represent processed foods as the alternative to the globalist system. You sure know your stuff, not like there's any corn or corn products in processed foods...
>>70793817
Great idea, the wall will pay itself in 80 years.
>>70793969
>rational
>implying tat even matters to Mexico
Question:
If we tariff mexican goods and threaten military action if they impose counter tariffs, would that work?
>>70794027
I really hope you're trolling and not literally retarded.
>I consume nothing from Mexico on a daily basis
>>Do you just eat hotpockets and doritos you fat fuck?
'Mexico is the largest supplier of fresh and frozen fruit to the United States, accounting for over 30 percent the volume and over 30 percent of the value of fresh and frozen fruit imports (excluding bananas). Mexico ships mostly limes, tangerines, mangoes, grapes, pineapples, papayas, avocados, and strawberries.' In terms of value, the U.S. received 45 percent of all vegetable, and pulse (dry bean, dry pea, and lentil) imports'
so...unless your eat corn and soy products for breakfast, lunch and dinner, you consume somethign from Mexico on a daily basis.
>>70794279
Starting a war with your weaker neighbor is a real smart idea, specially when you have 30 million of them in your cities, unrest from niggers and fundie mudshits and your cucked politicians. Tell me how fucking retarded are you.
>>70794453
it's not starting a war, it's reminding them who has the biggest stick.
>>70794449
Maybe if the price of the goods goes up it will become viable to actually grow them in the country.
>>70794159
And provide stable construction jobs for 80 years? Goddamn.
>>70794541
No one would pick the shit from the ground if you deported all the Mexicans. If you raise the wage to where Americans would actually get their hands dirty, the price would go up even further.
>>70794506
Don't be a fucking retard then. The fact that you have it it does not mean you should wave it.
>>70791632
>This isn't fucking somalia
Right. It's not Somalia. It's Mexico, which is a completely different third world country. Are you implying that Mexico isn't poor just because it isn't Somalia?
>>70794746
>little Mexicuck afraid of consequences
>>70794718
Not sure how it works there, but here picking jobs aren't based on an hourly wage, they're based on how much you actually pick.
Can make a few hundreds buckaroos a day depending on what you're picking and how proficient you are.
>>70793371
>I bet you think mexican products are tacobell and avocados hahahahahah
Nah, just a BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL.
>>70794886
Somalia = Mexico. I can't argue with such a enlightened comment, have an upvote friend. Stay in school and try to learn something you dumb fucking nigger.
>>70794746
Your like a Chihuahua lots of yapping but when push comes to shove you will get punted into a wall
>>70794935
I'm sure it depends on region and farm size, but the industrial scale farms in the US are notorious for hiring Mexicans or doing guest worker programs, and paying them like $7 a day. These are the sort of operations that supply 70% of the domestic produce.
>>70795143
That's not what I said. I said Mexico and Somalia are different countries, but they're both third world countries.
>>70792069
>free shit
The average citizen sees none of that
>>70794890
Not at all, i live far from the border and we could use a little war here, just to purge the politicians. The fact that stupid shit is posted is kind of upsetting and retarded.
Belive me, our politicians could use a little shake down.
>>70795239
Vet industry worker here; of all breeds I've seen, Chihuahuas are the most likely to bite, most likely because they attract retarded owners in the same way illegals attract retarded neolibs. If it were up to me, they'd all be gassed.
>>70795239
I have been in murrica and called a nigger a nigger, you fucks can't do shit without muh guns. Don't behave like an asshole or the vietnamese will get you.
>>70792783
> I watched breaking bad and now I am redpilled
por que idiota
>>70795284
>These are the sort of operations that supply 70% of the domestic produce.
Source please
>>70795728
mfw when Mexico-kun is the most rational poster in thread and offers the most pragmatic argument.
I swear you edgy Trumplets are some of the most retarded 12-yo's on the internet.
>mexico
>build wall
Mexicans are too proud to build a wall for someone else. The people would rather take the punishment than give in.
>>70795728
A lot of countries can't do shit without guns. That's why we keep them.
Trump will send the NY mob to takeover mexico and all its industries.
>>70796268
Chances are, Trump's not going to do it.
>>70796414
>A real estate developer won't be able to build a border wall as leader of a country
>>70796144
all i see ITT is two booty busted mexicans
>mfw when
>>70796407
>implying thats a bad thing.
We have fucking cartels runing the country here faggot, you will do nothing but improve the fucking country.
>>70796144
When you live in a shithole and actually work to improve your life, it gives you perspective.
Your average Trumpfag is some armchair warrior fag who feels entitled to the gibs some other asshole beat him to. They don't want to get up and fight for what they feel they deserve, so along comes toupee-san and promises to do it for them.
I thought Mexico's political scene was a fucking joke. The US is like a circus in comparison.
>>70796703
That's the point of the wall >anon
>>70791305
Those have always worked so well.
>>70795728
Tough talk from a brown hobbit that is crying about a wall keeping him from a country of "loser"
>>70791632
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>>70796636
Nah it's just me and im getting drunk and watching Rome.
>>70796764
Trump is the only means by which we can fight, faggot
Do you think successfully carrying out a revolution on a country as large and stable as the United States is actually possible in this day and age?
>gibs
Fuck off, we just want the honest work that you assholes have been taking from us by undercutting our laws.
>>70797109
How the fuck have i been taking anything from you faggot, i work 12 hours a day so i can do what i fucking please. I even help migrants and tourists alike give them directions offer them a place to crash if needed and libations. Don't be a dick.
>>70795492
Who's to blame for that?
>crooked Mexican gov't
>>70797352
You can keep doing that...on your side of the wall
>>70797352
You work 12 hours a day for a pittance which can't support life in your host country. You send it home and then fuck off to live like a king in beanistan, while the burgers are left holding the bag.
>>70790646
mexico is playing hard to get. when trump steps into office mexico will spread their cheeks
>>70797765
Is i needed advice from a fucking mudshit i would beat it out of it. Now fuck off.
>Wants to introduce tariffs and shit
>This will help the economy
I'm only voting for Trump because I hate liberals but let's not sit here and pretend he'll do a damn thing when he's president.
Hopefully he does nothing because if he actually does anything he's sure to ruin it
>>70797109
>Trump is the only means by which we can fight, faggot
You can prepare yourself intellectually, gain work skills and experience. Jobs exist, you just don't want to start at the bottom and work your way up, hence why Pablo jumps in and snatches the opportunity. He's content with earning enough to feed his 10 kids and having 1 day a week to drink and watch shit sports on TV. Most posters I see here conform with bitching online using the PC and internet their parents paid for, most likely, waiting for some Messiah.
>Fuck off, we just want the honest work that you assholes have been taking from us by undercutting our laws.
Bullshit. You don't want that minimum wage job. I understand not wanting to give welfare to literal parasites and agree on kicking those fuckers out; but no gringo I've spoken to has ever wanted to actually be a store clerk, a pool cleaner, a janitor. Those with balls actually finish high school and college in order to deserve a better life, and by that I don't mean attaining some shit degree on Arts, Social Studies or Literature.
>>70797469
Precisely. And who endorses them? Transnationals, mainly from the US.
If it were up to me, I'd support another revolution that didn't just put unqualified shitskins in office like 1910 did. That's not going to happen. I was privileged to be born with plenty of academic and economic opportunities, so my plan is to prepare myself professionally to either be able to change the workings of this nation from the inside or simply move out elsewhere.
>>70798349
So you're investing for the keks, good man carry on.
>>70796764
>>70799015
>American can't read.
You shame your people by being a stereotype.
>>70790646
my people have run the numbers, it's imposible to build such thing.
>>70790646
mexico has no choice -- it's kinda like being a 120 pound kiddiediddler locked up with in a tank with 20 lifers --- pedo can refuse to give buttsecks all he wants but he's going to give up buttsecks regardless
im late for the daily b8?
>>70792144
oh really? man must have missed the war on my way home, and that's coming from a man who live in veracruz, top 3 of the most dangerous states of the country, seriously man, stop watching foxnews
>>70799249
a mexican is never late, esteban, he arrives ahorita.
>>70799217
>Mexican intellectuals
>>70799343
oh yeah? well I watched Sicario, so I know a thing or two
>>70791165
>cucktards actually believe this
>>70799554
>taking a movie as reference
oh, totally accurate billy (or is it Tyrone, with whites being a minority in merica i can't really tell anymore).
>>70799343
The reason your country is shit is because you deny reality until it is too late.
Assuming, Mexico is retarded and refuse to pay for the 50 billion wall. 40 billion for the wall. 10 billion for maintenance.
Criminals cost an average of 15 billion to their victims and 179 billion to America's government.
You could spent 50 billion just to built the wall and lower the crime rate.
Why and how?
Firstly, concrete and steels can last a long time. With the wall, you cut off the supply of drugs and black market guns from Mexico. Black market guns are use solely crimes, ghost guns for example.
You control the economy of criminals.
Secondly, the wall creates jobs, jobs that will benefit both Americans and Mexicans.
It is a win-win situation.
Why Mexico should pay for the wall?
Firstly, as I mentioned before, jobs.
Secondly, because of sanction and tariff.
If America built the wall and charge Mexicans who cross the border, let's say 150 USD to enter the border to check their identity, another 150 USD for transport to the nearest town.
On the long run, America will profit.
Lastly, Mexico earns about an estimated amount of $406.4 billion a year on export.
America consist of 78.8% of that said export.
That is 320.2432 billion.
Is Mexico going to risk losing their gain of 320 billion a year because they refuse to built a wall that cost them only 50 billion?
>>70799889
man, shit have calmed a lot since the largest cartel killed the shit outta los zetas, they were the responsibles for all the gore stuff you saw. in the end it's your country who buys most of the drugs and your border patrol that gets bribed to look the other way the ones that keeps feeding the narco.
>>70799972
that's a pretty solid argument bro, but the thing is trump ain't gonna win, he's getting stumped a lot recently, it's really obvious that hillary's gonna win.
>>70800318
>Obvious that hillary will win
Based off of?
>inb4 CNN polls that about the general election before the nominees have been chosen for either party
If you post those it won't support your statement at all.
>>70800318
Well, the wall is a good solution. I am just saying.
Trump or Hillary, the wall is good for both Americans and Mexicans.
I just don't understand why people don't see it.
This can benefit Mexicans in the future
>drug cartels slow down
>Trump wants the best immigrants
>Mexicans actually legally try and come here
>Peace with US/Mex gets better
Why is no one looking at like this but me?
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That's a long enough brake! Get back to work! Wall wont build itself.
>>70792999
One billion a year in aid, you can build a huge wall to dwarf China's with that money alone.
>>70799576
>Implying that there haven't been plans laid out by both sides on how this is potentially feasible
One of the solutions is to cut their foreign aid, another is to scrap NAFTA, then raise import tarrifs. But my favorite one of all, is freezing all money transfers from the individuals who work here to transfer money back home, and then use that money to erect the wall.
There is so many ways and angles to go about it. You're pretty shallow (or generally stupid) for not actually reading up on it, or bothering to think of the potential solutions yourself.
>>70799972
>Is Mexico going to risk losing their gain of 320 billion a year because they refuse to built a wall that cost them only 50 billion?
And who has those 50 billion? I sure as hell don't. The niggers in charge will no way in hell part with their people-endorsed economical benefits.
>>70800473
>Well, the wall is a good solution. I am just saying.
>I just don't understand why people don't see it.
It's a good solution in theory.
The problem is, it's an idea sold on controversy and instigation of racial tension, not by presenting sound arguments.
Would you agree to do something some other nation tells you to, at your own expense and for their benefit? There's something called sovereignty.
>>70800515
Don't you have immigrants to welcome and show around your home?
>>70800473
the way i see it the wall it's really unecesary, and here's why, my goverment is incompetent, and mostly do a crappy job, yet, you would think a 1st world country would easily do a better job capturing and deporting inmigrants than my country yet.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/11/deportations-mexico-central-america
we could build the biggest, largest wall of the world, but as long as usa keeps demanding drug, the narco suplies it and the border patrol keeps beign bribed that wall won't change a thing.
>>70800773
You are already poor and undeveloped.
The wall can benefit your country by creating jobs, jobs that help the feed the poor and narrow stagnate the income gap between middle class and the uber rich.
It is economics 101, jobs help to stabilize the economy because the consumers got the money from the said jobs, to spent on things.
This is why Mexicans should support the wall. Mexicans are tough people, they can do the hard labor, guess where the money goes back to?
Exactly, sovereignty, America have their right to protect their country.
>>70800632
>>70800773
LOL, thats dispicable. Freezing a persons assets to build a wall. They didnt even freeze bin ladens familys money when 9-11 happend.
What are you some kind of dumbass 19yo?
>>70801577
You forgot:
>In theory
In real life, numbers speak harder.
>The wall can benefit your country by creating jobs, jobs that help the feed the poor and narrow stagnate the income gap between middle class and the uber rich.
How? We give the builders temporary jobs. Their overall situation does not improve. Mexico still has corrupt government officials and so will the US. Drugs, money and weapons will flow, wall or no, because there's greedy people on both sides.
>sovereignty, America have their right to protect their country.
They can build the wall themselves, then. Or reach compromise. That's true sovereignty
>>70801725
Yeah and western union is retarded, there are Mexucan banks in the US and Murrican banks in Mexico you only have to open an account make a deposit and have a card on the other border, that's not really hard is it.
>>70792144
>Implying your government didn't create the cartel and is selling them weapons to destabilize mexico just like you do with the rest of latin america and middle west.
Fuck your jewish country!!
>>70801835
Firstly, it is not a theory.
It has been done before in history, the ancient Rome had a wall, it worked. China had a wall, it worked. Israel has a wall, it worked. Singapore has a wall, it worked.
This is not a theory, nations throughout history done it before.
What do you mean by temporary jobs?
It will probably take YEARS to built it. It is a slow process my friend. It will requires roads and even bridges to bring materials to the borders.
There you go, jobs that benefits both the nation.
I agree, drugs and ghost guns will still flow, but the wall is a deterrence. Just because something bad is happening and something bad will still happen. Are you going to give up?
I do not support defeatist ideologies. I prefer to make use of what is good and do the best for the better.
>>70802556
Defeatism is allowing another nation to tell you what to do without reaching compromise first.
Rome was burnt and sacked, Israel is in high tensions with their neighbors and invaded foreign land. They also built such walls with either their own resources, or resources from invaded nations. We are not in a state of war or subjugation.
Don't use such romantic examples.
Why not pay Americans to build the wall with American money, American materials and improve American infrastructure?
>>70803046
This
They complain so much about mexicans taking their jobs and yet they want mexicans to build and pay for the wall... American education I guess
>>70800632
>freezing all money transfers from the individuals who work here to transfer money back home
That's called "stealing"
>>70791632
How is Mexico such a shithole compared to U.S.A? You both got colonized at about the same time yet U.S.A is the #1 country in the world and you're a 3rd world shithole run by drug cartels.
>>70803757
One of them is just chock full of Mexicans. If you look at Mexican history you will quickly find that they are incapable of establishing decent honest government, for the entirety of their history their government has been incompetent and corrupt.
This isn't to say incompetence and corruption don't exist in the US, but they exist (typically) at manageable levels. Mexico on the other hand, has never elected a politician who wasn't to some degree corrupt, or outright incompetent.
>>70795143
>Mexican intellectuals
>>70798365
It wouldn't be a minimum wage job if fucking pieces of spic shit like you stayed in your own countries and stopped working for 2 dollars an hour.
Who the fuck are you to lecture americans on what they ought to be doing or what they ought to be content with? How about we just deport all of you beaner fucks to your third world shithole of a country, built a wall to keep you out and be done with it? I like that solution better.
The mexican ruling class have been America's lackeys since the 40s, they won't refuse.
>>70803282
It's the least you can do, you entitled piece of shit.
>>70805190
Blame your entrepreneurs who'dd rather save a buck than employ their own people.
>How about we just deport all of you beaner fucks to your third world shithole of a country, built a wall to keep you out and be done with it? I like that solution better.
What are you waiting for?I don't care because I don't owe you fags jack shit and do pretty well for myself in this third-world shithole.
Stay mad, poorfag.
>>70805582
kek. Americans always act like that
>hurr durr stay on your side
>hurr durr We are going to deport
Are you stupid? I'm on my side, I don't care who you deport.
Oh look, retarded amerilards are still talking about "foreing aid", you're beyendo retarded.
>>70791305
underrated post
