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Reminder that Trump's Tax Plan makes no Sense
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He claims to be able to balance the budget in 10 years while:
Not cutting Social Security or Medicare which together comprise of nearly 50% of America's annual budget

Ramp up military spending (already 15% of the budget)

Pass a tax cut that eliminates taxes for individuals earning less than $25,000 and couples earning less than $50,000 which causes a loss of nearly $10 trillion of revenue over the next decade.

Under his plan nearly half of Americans would not pay any income tax which is hilarious and absurd.

So basically he's planning to drastically cut government revenue while maintaining Social Security and Medicare and gearing up military spending and claims to do all that and still balance the budget. How exactly? Tariffs? What a joke.
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>>70788842
HE WILL MAGA BY IMPOSING A SHITPOSTING TAX.
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>>70788842
Trump and Bernie's supporters are useful idiots
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>Ramp up military spending (already 15% of the budget)
I thought he was ramping it down by cutting defense aid to other countries.
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>>70788842
Stopping the annual deficit is not the same as clearing away over 19 trillion dollars in debt.
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Tariffs, cutting welfare (except for seniors), and incentives for corporations to repatriate their money back to the United States where tax will be paid on it. The corporate tax rate will be lower, but revenue will be higher because it will actually BE fucking taxed in the US, as opposed to now where it is kept offshore and never taxed at all.
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>>70788981
Oh shit i guess 4changold will become a reality
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>>70789089
>Hey, goyim! Remember that Yuri guy?
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>>70789443
this guy gets it
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>>70788981
This isn't a shitpost. Sorry not everyone agrees with your political beliefs... :(
>>70789089
true
>>70789246
nope
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/09/trump-i-would-increase-military-spending/
‘I Would Increase’ Military Spending
>>70789361
how is gonna stop the annual deficit if he refuses to touch over 65% of the Budget and lower taxes?
>>70789443
>Tariffs?
Hah! Yeah no. The US abandoned protectionism for a reason.
>incentives for corporations to repatriate their money back to the United States
true. Corporate taxes should lowered, if not abolished, but he has to make up the lost revenue somewhere and tariffs aren't a viable answer.
>it will actually BE fucking taxed in the US
True, but it doesn't shore up the massive losses caused by allowing nearly half the population to pay no income tax and spending more on the military.
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The number comes out to be rough $90 billion that we lose to offshore money (which isn't enough of course and would be lower under Trump's lower corporate tax rate).
http://www.americansfortaxfairness.org/tax-fairness-briefing-booklet/fact-sheet-offshore-corporate-tax-loopholes/

OP does have a point. I have no issue with cutting taxes, but Trump has to cut the fuck out of the budget (which I have no problem with either) for it to work. However, the other candidates definitely aren't going to do anything about the deficit. Trump has shown some willingness to cut things, so he's pretty much the best chance we got. Kicking it down the road won't solve anything which is what you'll get with the other candidates.
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>>70789859
>how is he* gonna stop the annual deficit if he refuses to touch over 65% of the Budget and lower taxes?
Sorry typo
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>>70789443

I get the feeling you pulled that out of your head. Any numbers that demonstrates that all of that will compensate for the loss of income revenue under Donald Trump's income tax plan and balance the budget in 10 years?
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>>70788842
The way things are going will lead to higher taxes and a deflationary collapse. The only possible way out is to lower taxes, get new business investment to boom and make working a much better option that living off the dole/welfare. Central banks are basically monetizing the debt anyways so lowering taxes on workers and businesses is the only way to see growth.
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>>70788981
/thread
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>>70788842
Reminder that liberal socialist are retarded and openions are garbage
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>>70789859
thats hilarious, you talk like a fag man
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>>70789859
Better than Rafael's "everyone pays the same and shut down the IRS". At least here Trump is making the rich pay more via loophole eliminations.
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>>70788842
He will remove medicare. Do you even Trump, faggot?
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>>70789933
>However, the other candidates definitely aren't going to do anything about the deficit.
I know this won't be a popular reminder on /pol/ but the deficit has shrunk quite a bit under Obama (pic related). The US is fairly close to having a balanced budget at this point. Trump's plan honestly seems like a shift away from this by causing the US to lose $10 trillion is revenue over the next decade. The only part of his plan I agree with is lowering corporate taxes (which should be 0% imho) as they are detrimental to economic growth and hardly enforceable.
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>>70788842
Hardly anyone pays now. We have record amounts of unemployment, benefit collecting, and poverty-immigration.
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>>70788842
Have you ever imagined that there are multiple ways of making money in this life?

The way we most typically utilize is taxing the ever loving fuck out of our businesses, which causes them to leave the country.

We have an alternate ways of making money, that no other country on this earth is able to use. It's called we have the strongest army on the planet, and we park it all over the fucking place to protect our helpless allies.

If they would pay us a fair price (a fair price is many billions of dollars) for us using the worlds greatest military force to defend their pathetic countries, then we could afford to give our citizens and businesses a break.
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>>70789859
>He was then asked, “[Y]ou would increase spending on the military?” Trump responded, “I would increase on the military.”

Not exactly what I was looking for. It's so off the cuff and generic.
Did anyone ask him to clarify WHAT he was going to increase spending on in the military?
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>>70789764
What about Yuri?
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>>70790427
Guess you're with her now right? Idiot
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>>70790280
Your chart shows that Obama massively increased deficits (likely to try and combat the housing crash) and then later bring it back down to around Bush levels which is still well in the red.
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>>70790055
I agree. I personally believe the Corporate tax rate should be zero. At the same time however, the amount of revenue Trump's plan is willing to part with is ridiculous.
>>70790133
>doesn't agree with Trump
>herp derp liberal gommie socialist something something Bernie Sanders
>misspells opinions
Something tells me you don't know to much about economics ;)
>>70790158
:/
>>70790201
true
>>70790261
>remove medicare
Wrong
Trump added: “Abolishing Medicare, I don't think you'll get away with that one. It's actually a program that's worked. It’s a program that some people love, actually.”
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>>70788842
>he doesn't want to abolish the IRS

Dropped
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>>70790627
It's on Trump's site, retard.

He will remove medicare and expand medicaid for the poorest, while making the insurance costs tax deductible to everyone else.
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>>70788842
>which together comprise of nearly 50% of America's annual budget

sauce
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he plans on closing all loopholes and bringing back money put in overseas banks
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>>70790724
He's wants to get rid of ACA not medicare.
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>>70788842
Simple. He sends Luca Brasi to China to collect.
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>>70790280
the deficit has shrunk but we could be sitting on top of a bubble, thanks to his inability to get anything better than the volker rule and the dodd frank gang drafted during the 111th.

And yeah it is good he wants to lower the corporate tax rate. He also wants to repatriate all of those swanky offshore funds, at the cost of a one time tax.

Honestly though I think the deficit would go up under Trump, but I think we would manage a huge amount of growth in infrastructure that would set the country up for the long run.
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>>70790393
>The way we most typically utilize is taxing the ever loving fuck out of our businesses, which causes them to leave the country.
Which is why we should eliminate corporate taxes altogether.
>>70790393
>If they would pay us a fair price (a fair price is many billions of dollars) for us using the worlds greatest military force to defend their pathetic countries, then we could afford to give our citizens and businesses a break.
Really? I don't think this is likely tbqh. While I agree our allies should be paying their fair share I doubt it would be enough to fill the revenue hole Trump's plan creates...
>>70790427
I guess the point I was making is that he does not plan to cut military spending. He might not raise it by much, but that's another 16% of annual spending he's not gonna try to cut.
>>70790576
>Obama massively increased deficits
Do you feel such moves were unnecessary? Countercylical fiscal policy is better than acycial or cyclical policy in my opinion. The point I was making is that he later brought it down and it is fairly close to surplus at this point. All it would take would be a few cutbacks.
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>>70790835
>he plans on closing all loopholes
kek
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>>70790627
I think for the military spending Trump said he would get more mileage out of less money. Basically a larger force with less waste. So spending will maybe stay about the same but more of the money going to soldiers/veterans.
Yes, Trump wants to lower corporate tax rates but close loopholes.
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>>70790952
he will get dem offshored monies though, he'll make an offer

that they can't refuse
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>>70788842

Don't forget the sale and rent of government assets.

The government could make trillions off of that alone.
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>>70790933
>Do you feel such moves were unnecessary?
I'm not sure, but the $439 billion deficit in 2015 is not "fairly close" to a surplus. That's just the same levels that Bush had.
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>>70790724
>It's on his site
No it doesn't. You're wrong.
>>70790799
Sure:
http://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go
>>70790835
Which is good but it doesn't fill the whole the rest of his tax plan creates...
>>70790911
>I think the deficit would go up under Trump, but I think we would manage a huge amount of growth in infrastructure that would set the country up for the long run.
You do realize that this is what democrats believe right?
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>>70791199
Meh, semantics. $439 billion isn't a lot compared to US's total revenue and expenditure. Bush was fairly close to surplus as well imho.
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>>70791038
Hmm, okay but even excluding the military, Social Security and Medicare represent close to half the US's expenditures (which Trump says he won't touch) and his income tax plan creates a massive revenue plan. His corporate tax plan seems fine to me though I haven't studied it in depth
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>>70791104
Interesting. I don't quite understand what you mean though. What do you mean by 'sale and rent of government assets'?
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>>70791204
The difference being they go to who gives them the most money, Trump will go for the areas that will profit the most and provide the most jobs.
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>>70788842

I LIKE BERNIE BECAUSE HE WANTS TO TAX THE RICH AND THE RICH ARE BAD AND THEY SHOULD PAY FOR MY GENDER REASSIGNMENT SURGERY SO PLEASE BERNIE MAKE THEM PAY SO I DONT HAVE TO WORK AND CAN JUST BE A HAPPY DICKLESS OTHERKIN AS NATURE MEANT
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>>70788842
>In 10 years
Presidency is for 8.
>Not cutting Social Security or Medicare
Reforms to the healthcare system in the US will overall lower costs for both the public (insurance costs) and the government (lower medicare costs)
Flourishing of a resurgent US manufacturing sector will increase the prosperity of lower economic and social classes' as well as their economic wellbeing and income, pushing most out of welfare, as well as pushing many outside medicare's provisions (no longer needed due to prosperity)
>Ramp up military spending
Most likely not increase spending but reform military spending and government procurement contracting; the majority of US defense spending does not go towards upkeep or arming the operational military, but towards vast and largely useless military projects with little hope of practical benefit, and procurement contracts for basic equipment sold over the odds by certain companies cough cough colt cough cough.

Okay, biggest one
>Tax cuts losing $10 trillion of revenue over the next decade
Decade is meaningless, let's shorten that to $8 billion for the 8 years, and $1 billion shortfall average a year.
The current plan is to use the aforementioned reforms and economic performance (the $10 trillion figure was calculated with reference to nothing but the direct effects of changing the tax system itself, or of simplifying) as a longer term plan, while leveraging federal assets and mineral rights; the Federal government owns over 50% of many states, and 90% of a few of those. This land isn't managed to much public benefit, and the governance of these assets is usually reliant on the public pocket, and as such suffers for it.
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>>70790933
>I guess the point I was making is that he does not plan to cut military spending. He might not raise it by much, but that's another 16% of annual spending he's not gonna try to cut.
Yeah, but the thing is that a very significant chunk of that IS fucking spending and foreign aid for other countries. A few soldiers on the payroll would be grandly outweighed by something like what he proposes in regards to Japan and Israel.
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>>70791519
The federal government owns a disgusting amount of land. Some of those have buildings on them, others don't.

A LOT of oil under some of this land (including offshore waters).

Then you have land in prime locations not being used.

Then you have land in prime locations BEING used. Sell/rent that to businesses who want that spot, move into a less prime location building on land they own.

Then you have the billion square miles of land in the middle of nowhere. Remember the BLM ? Sell back the shit they've basically stolen.
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>>70788842

I had this conversation with a friend.

Rich people don't pay any tax. Lowering tax would give them a reason to bring their money back into the country. If they stay competative, there would be a lot more tax paid.

You can't just tax-tax-tax the rich and expect them to pay for everything. Every time they want a new social program, they just get the rich to pay for it. It's stupid.
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>>70791719
As an alternative to sell offs of federal land, it would be possible to leverage funds from the access to federally owned mineral rights and industries relating to them (e.g. oil and gas, which the US is opening export terminals for), much in the same way that Sovereign Wealth Funds across the world, in the UK, Norway and Saudi Arabia are fed.

Additionally, there is also the repatriation of capital from abroad, which makes a significant dent in the assumed deficit.
Beyond this there are the tariffs on Chinese goods (US tariffs on goods with China already exist, Chinese Steel has a tariff of 266%, as opposed to the EU's overall 9% tariff) and the possible impounding of US-to-Mexico remittances, which make up a total capital outflow of $24 billion a year.
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tariffs, cutting waste, closing loopholes, cutting foreign aid, making countries pay for our military services, and kicking ass
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>>70791519
>>70791902

Oh and to clarify.

The biggest point of the sale of assets in this case is to reduce the deficet by as much as possible as quick as possible. It's not so much about the raw number itself but the INTEREST that has to be paid on it. Imagine if the amount of debt interest the government had to pay was suddenly reduced by 1/10th each year. That's massive savings that results in either MORE debt being paid off faster or allows for an increase in spending without increasing the deficit.
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>>70791204
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform
>But none of these positive reforms can be accomplished without Obamacare repeal. On day one of the Trump Administration, we will ask Congress to immediately deliver a full repeal of Obamacare.
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>>70792114
Personally I hate this 'day one' bullshit. At least he's only claiming to 'ask' Congress instead of saying it will happen. Cruz has done the latter in a few cases if I recall.
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>>70791961
shut up canada, you have no idea what you're talkiing about.
americans have to py US taxes no matter where they are around the world.
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>>70792309
Except that isn't true.

There are that many 'legal' loopholes to get around it that it's almost funny.
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>>70792309
He's talking about money in overseas banks from Americans which in fact is not subject to US tax law. It's probably not enough though.
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>>70791464
Yeah, Social Security and Medicare will need to be fixed. I think medical costs are the real problem. It seems like organized extortion the way medicine is run in the USA. Trump mentioned competition being key to get medical cost under control, he may be right, getting doctors to have to win customers on cost/service.
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>>70792577
Part of his plan is to make costs transparent.

Hospitals/practitioners would have to advertise how much they charge for services publicly online.
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>>70791719
Whoops, mean $8 trillion for 8 years, $1 trillion shortfall average.

>>70792050
A change in circumstance regarding military and civilian foreign aid with a reduction in US expenditures will likely occur.

>Under his plan nearly half of Americans would not pay any income tax which is hilarious and absurd.
>Hilarious and absurd
It used to be the case that income tax only hit people who made a lot of money, and the fact of the matter is that income tax is primarily a tax on the lower and middle economic classes. Freeing up capital to circulate for growth and future tax revenues under corporate (business) growth, and the god of all capitalism - consumption and purchase of permanent objects.


>>70792114
As a technical point, Medicare and Medicaid have nothing to do with Obamacare, and were both in existence beforehand; while Medicare was expanded, Obamacare was more than the expansion of medicare.

Of course, Medicare needs fixing (For hospitals, it's essentially just a "apply and see if you actually get the funding", which makes insurers antsy and keep premiums high to cover the risk), while the FDA needs a reboot. Y'see the clueless bernouts who cry that the government isn't negotiating with big pharma so you have worse prices than in Europe? Those prices actually occur because the FDA only recognises its own certifications and qualifications, where as most countries in Europe recognise each other as being valid and expanding the competition
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>>70792577
>>70792935
Well if medical costs can indeed be brought down, then the amount spent on medicare would plummet. I just wonder how big of an effect this would have and how long it would take for the market to adjust.
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OP is propaganda.

Trump may not be flawless, but let me make one thing clear...

The ONLY reason Donald Trump is being misrepresented, attacked and slandered by the controlled media and political operatives online is because he's the only real threat to Hillary Clinton (the planned replacement puppet for Obama) being handed the Presidency.

Furthermore, I happen to know for a fact that Trump is largely playing a role and acting controversial as a political tactic. Making ‘brash’ statements is part of his game, as a way of throwing out ‘red meat’ to attract mainstream GOP voters. In other words, he’s just selling meatloaf to a meatloaf crowd.

Trump actually knows WAY MORE than he lets on, and he knows he’s in danger. However, his intent is to win and save the country; and he knows that can’t be done without playing the game of politics.

This has all been confirmed by high-level people that know him well behind the scenes, such as Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone.

This video explains things better than I could. I implore you all to watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDr2NJPv8kE
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OP you're dumb. Trump has no positions, he's flipped flopped more than Romney. Who fucking knows what his plans are?
/pol/ likes Trump because of his personality.
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>>70788842
>Ramp up military spending

nice source moron
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>>70793070
Also factor in removing the barrier on generic medication from outside of the US.

Almost every aspect of healthcare in America is a fucking sham raising shit tons of money for certain people/companies/industries.

It's actually so bad that there are PLENTY of different ways to bring down costs quickly and effectively. So, in a way that's a good thing.
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>nearly half of Americans would not pay any income tax
Except this is already how it is.
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>>70791699
Actually I don't care for Bernie as he is basically tied for the worst tax plan along with Trump. But forget that, anyone who criticizes your God must be a libtard right?
>>70791719
>Presidency is for 8.
So what? 8 trillion lost then in 8 years.
>Reforms to the healthcare system in the US will overall lower costs for both the public (insurance costs) and the government (lower medicare costs)
Even if that's true, it doesn't fix the revenue black hole his tax plan creates.
>The current plan is to use the aforementioned reforms and economic performance (the $10 trillion figure was calculated with reference to nothing but the direct effects of changing the tax system itself, or of simplifying) as a longer term plan, while leveraging federal assets and mineral rights;
Will this fill a trillion dollar hole?
>>70791823
fair point
>>70791902
Hmm this sounds interesting. Do you have any numbers on how much revenue this would generate though? Also if the government sells the land, it only gets a one time revenue.
>>70791961
>Rich people don't pay any tax
Yes they do despite the memes liberals spout. The most damaging taxes to US global competitiveness are corporation taxes which Trump wants to lower and is, like I posted a while back above, is the only good part of his tax plan. It doesn't fix that the rest sucks.
>>70792114
Obamacare isn't medicare. You realize this right? Why does it matter if he repeals Obamacare? How is that relevant?
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>>70793620
No it isn't. Right now 23% of Americans don;t pay income tax. His plan doubles that number
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>>70793702
>Why does it matter if he repeals Obamacare?
Obamacare has been driving up healthcare costs which drives up medicare payments.
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>>70793072
BREAK YOUR CONDITIONING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>70793086
Nah he does have a tax plan which he has more or less stood by (mostly lol).
>>70793096
Already addressed above.
>>70793774
So? Why is that relevant regarding Trump's tax plan? Whether he repeals ACA or not, his tax plan still leaves an enormous revenue gap
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>>70793072
>I support Hillary
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>>70793620
>>70793768
That barely makes a dent in revenue. The top 1% pay nearly half of the tax revenue. The loss in revenue comes mostly from cutting taxes on the rich.

>>70793927
Trump's tax plan doesn't exist in a vacuum. It simply leaves a revenue gap that would have to be addressed by figuring out a way to cut down spending. Lowering the amount the government has to spend on medicare would greatly lower spending.
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>>70794087
>The loss in revenue comes mostly from cutting taxes on the rich
True. I guess I just dislike the idea of half of America paying no income taxes tbqh.
>Lowering the amount the government has to spend on medicare would greatly lower spending.
Fair point, but I'm unconvinced he can cut down spending that much. Why not not lower income taxes but instead reduce spending and remove Corporation Taxes and close loopholes. His plan just seems like a lot of running around and hoping everything goes smoothly.
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>>70794286
Income tax is one of the most harmful taxes out there. I don't see what's wrong with letting lower middle income families hold on all of their income.

Trump's plan is definitely flawed, no doubt. My guess is likely that he'll probably compromise somewhere (remember his style is to give out his wildest offers first) so the revenue loss wouldn't be so huge.
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entitlements and military spending are not sustainable and must be gotten rid of.
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>>70788842
No one should pay income tax.
It was invented because of The Federal Reserve.
It is used to pay down debt.

I'm just complaining but it's true.
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>>70793890
>>70793993
Ridicule is all you stupid, bluepilled faggots have.
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>>70788842
>Not cutting Social Security or Medicare
Welfare beyond those two costs more, and SS is the only form that people pay into their whole lives expecting to get back.
>Ramp up military spending (15% of budget)
I'm sure once Obamacare and the Department of Education are dismantled it won't hurt so much.
>Pass a tax cut that eliminates taxes for individuals earning less than $25,000 and couples earning less than $50,000 which causes a loss of nearly $10 trillion of revenue
And yet, this would do more than raising the minimum wage to increase household earnings, thus increasing spending and investment. We'll recoup the taxes from people actually having money and spending it, which is far better than income tax slavery.

You've left out the $54-70 billion annually saved once illegals are deported, and all the jobs that would suddenly free up -- in b4 Americans won't work those jobs -- everywhere they made it harder for illegals to work, domestic employment went up, especially for blacks and first generation legal immigrants.

What are your alternatives?
>not Bernie considering your concerns
>not Cruz considering flat tax + abolish IRS

Well?

> inb4 Shillary

Reddit is this way: >>>/trash/
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>>70794658
>bluepilled
Nice maymay Reddit Have an upboat
>>70795243
>Welfare beyond those two costs more
I doubt it. Alone Social Security and Medicare are nearly half the budget.
>I'm sure once Obamacare and the Department of Education are dismantled it won't hurt so much.
It's still gonna hurt
>We'll recoup the taxes from people actually having money and spending it, which is far better than income tax slavery
I doubt it. Do you have any sources?
>$54-70 billion
Basically nothing compared to the entire budget and annual expenditure

I support Kasich. I know he won't win, but I really don't care. Everyone else is laughable tbqh.
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>>70788842
>Under his plan nearly half of Americans would not pay any income tax which is hilarious and absurd.
How is this absurd? Go back and check the US history and see if income tax is the norm or not.
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>>70793072
>Trump actually knows WAY MORE than he lets on
The guy is a bit of a chameleon. He certainly is capable of being elopquent and analytical; his IS just playing "dumber" so he comes across as sympathetic to working class people. There's no choice, he has to do that.
This video more than any other, this is who he is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

These are good too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72c7onhpor4
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>>70795889
>Go back to the 1800s
I'd really rather not
>>70796041
Never said he was dumb only that his tax plan wasn't good
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>>70796436
>his tax plan wasn't good

good little bitch

bend over and spread those butt cheeks for the government
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>>70795865
>Alone Social Security and Medicare are nearly half the budget
I'm sure he has a nuance in mind when he says "not touching ss and medicare"; medicare and SS, cut back to their original scale, without all the decades of spurious expansions and "pseudo-social security" that Dems keep tacking on, would not be "touching" the underlying original model. Modifying it is not cutting it, since all the bloat is not technically DD/medicare. He can expand defense through consolidation, the same with vets admin, and probably have money left over for NASA. What it hinges on is the immigration problem being sorted, and unemployment being eliminated as much as possible. Once income tax is eliminated for the majority of the lowest earners, he might even be able to roll back federal min wage. Not sure he would, but its a Republican Holy Grail.
>>70796436
>Never said he was dumb
this wasn't a reply to you
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>>70789859
>The US abandoned protectionism for a reason.
>Tariffs? The US abandoned protectionism for a reason.
And that reason was so that big companies can outsource to China without penalty while lobbying for minimum wage in the US, fucking over locally producing competition. You seem to imply that because it happens for a reason, that reason was in any way beneficial to the American people.
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>>70796674
>oh no someone disagrees with me on the internet. I could debate him but he might kick the shit outta me. Better post fedora maymays instead XDDD
>>70796735
Maybe. But if this is what he believes why doesn't he lay out a plan for this?
>>70797524
>outsource to China
Why is this bad? It's been happening for decades and unemployment hasn't risen as a result. I for one don't want shitty industrial jobs coming back to the United States. The Service economy is far better.

Not to mention that if factories return to the US, the cost of production skyrockets because Americans ain't gonna work for a buck fifty an hour nor should they
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>>70788981
>Australia becomes Greece in a matter of hours.
Glorious
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>>70798277
every insecure fedora tipper gets all butthurt when someone calls them out lmao

enjoy trying to cope with your erectile dysfunction you clueless moron
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He's cutting unnecessary excess in the military, healthcare, and government, significantly reducing foreign aid, and increasing taxes on Wall Street bullshit. He'll renegotiate trade deals so we no longer operate on a deficit with China, Japan, and Mexico.
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>>70796735
>boomers are milking our income because they saved nothing for retirement
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>>70788842
Nobody's tax plan makes sense. Nobody has an actual plan to tackle the debt. All of them will continue to run a deficit.
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>>70788842
Anyone want to try this and balance the federal budget?
http://crfb.org/stabilizethedebt/#
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>>70788842
I'm a cruzmissile now.
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1. Its not nearly as bad as Ted Cruz's retarded flat tax based on muh liberty and 'fairness.'

2. Stimulus motherfucker, have you heard of it? Democrats like to run deficits to stimulate the economy but when Republicans do it suddenly the world will end.
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>>70788842
who cares

the president doesn't write the law anyway
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>>70790261
Trump loves Medicare and thinks socialized healthcare in general is a great idea.

Or at least he did four years ago. Has he flipped again?
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