He has a good point you know
>>70765911
not even trying/10
>>70765911
Of course we are not a civilized country. We are filled with niggers and fags like you, OP.
>>70765911
>America is not a civilized country.
No fucking shit. We have known that for decades. America is a first-world nations with chunks of Congo and Guatemala scrambled into our cities.
>>70765911
>the definition of a civilized country is based off my feelings
>>70766088
davai
>>70765911
still, people from america are not fleeing that brutal violent place
and people from other countries with rich cultures and sheit insist on going to america
Stop replying guys. Sage
>>70766088
Rollzzz for mee
>>70765911
30,000 includes suicides
Only an uncivilized country would take away ownership of your own life.
>>70766088
dobs
>>70766088
Rollos
>>70766088
asian pls
>>70766088
Roll for next door normie or trap
>>70766088
bump
>>70766566
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand im a cuck
>>70766088
Leggot
>>70765911
>Sentences that indicate the point in question is completely retarded
>>70765911
>ITT - paid shilling by the OP
>Pic very related
>>70765911
>no true scotsman
>>70765911
>America has growing non-white minority groups
>no longer civilized
Yes, I agree
>>70766088
plz be a trap
>>70765911
>He has a good point you know
Sure, if you're retarded and ignorant. Sure. Great point, Tim Tim. Here's your gluten free cookie. Now go run along and keep guzzling down that communist Kool aid
>>70766598
I choose the trap :)
>>70766088
rolling pls
>>70766753
Still a savage violent place. America has never been peaceful
>>70766100
Check'em.jpg
Also, ralling
>>70766088
oh boy
>>70766088
lets go
>>70766748
>>70766748
Lets take a closer look
>>70765911
>~2/3 are suicides
>murder is already illegal
>limiting your ability to fight back against a government that has shown to be corrupt and anti-constitution because muh fee fees
>baiting this hard
>>70766088
Rollllllll bb
>>70766088
Rollicking mofugga
>>70766088
Only reason to go in these threads.
>>70766088
Rolling my nigguh
>>70766088
Rorring
>>70765911
fine
I don't give a fuck then if that's what it takes to be "civilized"
>>70765911
30,000 niggers not people
>>70766748
How is it a fallacy though? No other first world country has anywhere near the level of gun violence as America. This is an objective fact
>>70766088
Not a Roll. (Roll)
>>70766088
rool
Literally if you take away suicides and black on black gang violence, our gun crime is as low as any european country. It's a cop out and a horrible thing to admit, but it's true. Crime in general is out of control here and only going to get worse once the dems get someone into office and they start LBJ part 2.
>>70767399
FML
>>70765911
If Obama wants to call the US a civilized nation he should issue an executive order to confiscate all firearms in America. The days of The Wild West are long since over, no need to keep guns at home when you have police.
>30,000 people
>out of over 300 million
>0.01%
>when you adjust for gang violence, suicide, etc., this number becomes pretty much meaningless
No one should be scared about being murdered by someone with a gun, unless you're doing something stupid or live in a place you should move from. You're much more likely to be killed in an automobile accident, but I don't see these faggots writing essays about how fully automatic Toyotas should be banned.
Vast majority of these deaths are suicides. Japan has nearly no gunownership and has a higher suicide rate than we do.
Of the deaths that were murders, vast majority of those are from minority gang violence. If you subtract minority gang violence (blacks commit 9x and Latinos commit 5x murder rate compared to whites) US would have a gun murder rate comparable to Belgium, a modern European state that has strict gun control laws.
Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do.
>>70765911
First of all, 20,000 of those deaths are suicides.
That leaves 10,000.
8>>70765911
80% of that 10,000 are gang related. 500 are accidental. 200 are justified. That leaves 1,300 actual gun murders if you aren't in a gang, committing a crime, or an idiot who doesn't know how to handle guns. 1,300 out of a population of 320,000,000. That's a 0.00040625 percent change of being killed by a gun.
Meanwhile, 300,000 Americans die each year from medical malpractice. That's a 0.09375 percent chance.
If you think gun homicides are a serious problem, you're fucking nuts.
>>70766088
FUKEN ROLLING
>>70766941
It was way more violent in the 70s and 80s
Chicago had 488 murders in 2015, it was around 700-900 throughout the 70s
>>70767354
>No other first world country has anywhere near the level of gun violence as America.
no other first world country has anywhere the number of niggers and retards either
guns aren't the problem, Americans being psychotic is
>>70766088
heyyyy
>>70766088
No shit.
>>70766088
reeeee
>>70766088
"Rolling" - Fred Durst
>>70766088
Gimme trap
>>70765911
I did some quick math, if South Korea had a population the size of the USA with their current suicide rate, they would have 74,000 suicides a year, since 2/3 of the deaths of the OP cites are suicides, they have a much bigger problem.
Then again, maybe the OP doesn't consider Koreans to be civilized.
>>70766088
dubs check'em
SHALL
>>70766088
It's gotta be teen...
>>70766088
FML
>>70765911
>no civilized country would allow people to die.
>>70765911
How many of those deaths are the result of either justified self defense or justified actions of the police?
how many of those deaths are the result of hispanic/black gangs killing eachother/themselves - with what is most likely illegal guns?
what is the homicide rate in the majority-white states with lax gun legislation?
Finland, Norway, Serbia and some other European countries all rank above the US in terms of deaths by mass shootings per capita
Russia, China and countries in Central America have very strict gun laws yet extremely high murder rates
same would apply to several African countries as well
>>70766088
ebony please
>>70766088
Chad pls
>>70766088
pls
>>70766088
Pls no Tyrone
>>70768237
Ayy I made it
>>70768193
fuck that
>>70765911
America is 40% shitskins. Of course it's not a civilized country.
And these are the same liberal retards who want to bring in more of them.
>>70766088
Rill
>>70765911
Most of these are suicides the rest are black violence. Maybe we should treat the root of the problem instead of treating the symptoms
>>70766088
High roll!
>>70766088
rolled up Aces
>>70766088
fuck that, reroll
>>70766088
fuck it
roll
>>70766088
rull
>>70768746
>>70768850
please no /r9k/ again
>>70768618
Ban feminism and welfare.
>>70766088
Roll not spam
>>70766088
roll for muslim.
>>70766088
MILF get
Plz no Tyrone
>>70766088
rolling :D
>>70766088
fuck reroll
>>70766088
Trap pls
>>70766088
roll ing
>>70766088
Chubby get plz
>>70766088
roll i guess
>>70767478
ahahahahaha. Live in South Africa. Come to 4chan to avoid constant cucking of real-life lived in Niggtown.
Get cucked by 4chan. And not just cucked--dubs nigger cucked.
kek.
>>70766088
gibs nerd or teen
>>70765911
This is the same poster using the same language and original site, but not the exact same text or pic, as the "NRA are terrorists" thread one hour ago.
>>70766088
/rawlin
>>70769184
former stacy, pretty good. used to whore around, but she's still hot now and my kids will be top tier
>>70765911
I'm so fucking tired of shit bait like this. Just fuck off to Reddit or something
>>70765911
Begging the question
>>70766088
roll n' roll
>>70765911
not an argument.
Everyone else:
>ID: hKORzce8
>1 post by this ID
I HATE THAT NUMBER
I HATE IT
BUT I SEE IT EVERYWHERE
If you subtract
-suicides
-justified shootings
-accidents
-criminals shooting criminals
The number is FUCKING SMALL
but guess what? 30k is small to begin with.
But do you know why I realllly hate that number?
BECUASE WE SHOULDNT USE NUMBERS TO DECIDE RIGHTS
"Oh well it looks like eight thousand people were offended by free speech this year, that's over the 7 thousand limit, we better remove the 1st amendment"
Arguments about the constitution and constitutionality should NEVER INVOLVE NUMBERS.
Any argument that involves numbers is a stupid argument.
>>70765911
>30,000 out of some 320 million
>.01% die from X
>largely suicides
You know, stop me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's a single country in history that could claim those kind of numbers. You couldn't get flu deaths that low. You couldn't get fucking Pomeranian maulings that low.
If America isn't civilized, nobody is.
We have people fucking crawling here from all the empires of the old world, begging for a fucking education or a job, and you wanna tell me we're 'uncivilized'? UNCIVILIZED?
50% of our civilians own more guns than the rest of the world put together and we keep our deaths lower than half of these cucked police states and you wanna call US 'uncivilized'?
Bitch don't you have a bull to prep somewhere?
>>70769743
It should be this:
Has the individual pursuing the right to own a firearm demonstrated their inability to own or possess said firearm by:
-committing violent crime
-threatening a person recently, leading to a warranted fear for life
-handling said weapon in a completely unsafe manner
If yes, no gun.
If no, gun.
>>70769743
Good post.
>>70765911
In Mexico guns are illegal and we have like 100,000 deads per year so GTFO
criminals don't follow the law idiot, so illegal guns = you can't defend yourself from actual criminals
