how do you feel about mandatory gun ownership, /pol/?
http://observer.com/2016/03/must-pack-heat-the-case-for-mandating-gun-ownership/
Shouldn't give guns to people that don't want them or can't be trusted with them.
>>70756349
>cuck
>>70756349
The latter should be thrown off a cliff
>>70756175
fucking mint
>>70756349
Just make it so people can go to the town hall and pay a fine to exempt themselves. Or make it so mentally ill people can opt out with the endorsement of a Psychiatrist.
>>70756657
That nigga gun blow somebody's toes off
>>70756471
Nah, I don't want cucks to have guns.
If you don't want a gun you're a faggot.
Also, when I said
>or can't be trusted with them
I meant retards and non-whites(I'm being redundant).
Re tarted. I am in 100% full support of the 2nd amendment, but I don't personally want a gun.
>>70756806
>Nah, I don't want cucks to have guns.
Why not?
>>70756806
>cucks can't have guns
They need them the most you inconsiderate potato nigger!
I'm all for gun ownership.
Gun free zones are bullshit, and frankly make me nervous because most concealed carry folks will honor them, so less weapons in good hands.
Personally, I do not need a gun.
My temper would not make that a good idea. I'm able to control it, but it's a close enough call sometimes that I don't really think it's a good idea for me to have a pistol close at hand a lot of the time.
So mandatory, no, some people don't need guns, and that should be their choice to make.
>>70756175
I don't like mandatory anything, desu. It's just generally bad policy to be 100% inflexible.
>>70756175
I'm all for gun ownership and open/concealed carry but it just seems stupid to mandate gun ownership. I'd rather dumb poor people stay dumb & poor rather than poor, dumb & armed.
Mandatory gun ownership for the weak and physically disabled.
Duty to retreat is a load of bullshit when you're in a wheelchair.
>>70756175
It's a good idea. Just work out the niggerism issues, train them on when and what's legals and heavily punish those who can't be responsible and shit'll be fine.
>>70757345
Why not for able bodied people too? You can still retreat with a gun pointed at an assailant and not fire it
>>70756175
Why doesn't everyone own a gun to start with? Mutually Assured Destruction, nigga.
>>70756175
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/02/georgia-town-not-alone-in-using-gun-law-as-deterrent/2048059/
relevant
>>70757353
>Just work out the niggerism issues
That problem would literally fix itself. Think about it
>>70756175
>that trigger discipline
I wouldn't trust myself to carry a firearm at all times. I'm a crack shot and I've been practicing since I was a kid, but one beer too much and I may be locked away for life. That being said, I'm not opposed to gun ownership, provided the firearms end up in good hands. But that oversight would probably be the government, which isn't a particularly good thing.
>>70758021
Pretty sure the article doesn't call for mandatory carry, just ownership.
i remember reading about how archery training was mandatory in medieval england (14th century-ish).
every single male had to know how to shoot for the defense of the country.
>>70757076
They'll give them to Jamal.
>>70757159
Cucks needs to die.
>>70756349
Agreed. Only people that care enough to become competent with them.
>>70756175
I wish we had guns.
>>70757728
No, some states consider that brandishing and aggravated assault. You'd have to change a lot of state laws for that example to be legally defensible across america.
I was just thinking that no jury will convict a paraplegic for shooting her rapist, based on the most draconian self defense laws in america.
>>70756175
Will you be shot if you don't have a gun?
>>70756175
Mandatory anything is bad.
Everyone voluntarily owning guns is a good thing though.
Crime rates in the UK were tiny, when most people owned some kind of gun, in comparison with now when it's been made difficult to legally own one.
>>70756175
I think everyone should know how to use a gun like having people learn how to use guns in a school course but i don't think ownership should be mandatory.
>>70756175
>finger on the trigger
>>70756175
christ there are people who will shoot you down only because you've farted in the public 25 feet away from them
so no, mandatory ownership is some of the most retarded thing I've ever heard here
>>70758370
We do. They are just harder (and more expensive) to get.
>>70758568
kids used to take their parents rifles/shotguns to school so they could go shooting after, in the UK before the 1930's
>mfw no school shootings
>>70756175
I would have kicked him out
>>70756175
>Trigger Discipline
>>70758867
>vs. alphabetic order
Alphabetic order of what?
Go walk around Wal-Mart and tell me if you'd feel safer if each and every adult in there was armed.
>>70758859
Poland has fewer guns per head than the UK.
1.3 guns per 100 people vs. 6.7 per 100.
>>70759012
The order in which the country appears in the alphabet, it's to give a comparison to something we know has no correlation.
>>70758749
>>70758778
>>70758929
>>70758984
>muh drigga displin
gas yourselves
>>70759227
>Non gun owner detected
lmao least if someone comes to gas us we'll be alright.
>>70756349
The problem of people who shouldn't have them would sort itself out in short order. They'd either get responsible, or they'd get shot.
>>70759022
what is the matter? i have no enemies and if anybody shot at me i would simply just return fire?
anyways when the hell would i ever be shopping at cuck-mart? do you take me for some yuppie with a penchant for destroying american small business with my shitty consumerism habits?
>>70756175
I should be allowed to carry my gun in public all the time. Those kindergarten kids need to know I'm a big man with a big gun.
>>70759406
>>Non gun owner detected
?nah nigga just nah?
>>70759406
The only thing more cringe than wearing Naruto/Sonic/whatever animuu you choose gear in public is commenting about trigger discipline. But those comments get all the likes on Reddit so I assume you want your biscuit +1 upboat.
>>70756175
Personally, I think Canada can only survive as one country if we adopt a much more decentralised federal model, like a version of Switzerland adapted to North America. Mandatory gun ownership for Canadian men would also help secure Canadian independance.
>>70759012
There is more correlation between ordering countries by alphabet than ordering by gun ownership.
>>70756349
Those people should be deported.
>>70757161
I only honor gun free zones when when carrying in them is a felony, or if there is a metal detector that I'd have to go through. Misdemeanor or petty misdemeanor and I flat out ignore that shit.
The goverment gonna PAY me to get a gun?
THat's petty sweet man.
All you whit bois better be scare aight?
I know how you all afraid of my BBC (big black colt)
Glad to know my man Brock Obama is repersenting us real nigger.s
>>70757728
>In a high stress situation
>Fine motor skills have gone to shit
>Retreating while facing an attacker
Sounds like a good way to trip and have very bad things done to you. If you're going to run, just fucking haul ass. If you're going to fight, be aggressive about it.
>>70758140
I'm actually not fine with that either. I like owning firearms, but I know folks who wouldn't want to own some. There are risks to owning them (like becoming a target to burglars and you can't really fend them off with guns here unless if they have guns too). I think that an extensive & mandatory firearms education for everyone would dispel all the liberal bullshit about them and everybody gets to make up their own mind whether they want to own some or not. And many more will probably want that because they aren't as scared of them.
>>70759022
I would, because most people in my town are respectable.
>>70759604
Here's your )you(, appreciate it for it will be the last one receive since you are obviously retarded.
>>70759227
shoot yourself accidentally
>>70758472
No that just contributes to the gun homicide rate so stabbing instead
>>70756175
How about mandating firearms training and have that serve as a cc-license?
>>70759227
>gun safety is a meme
>>70760288
>leaving guns lying out loaded for no apparent reason
no thanks i am not re-tar-ded
>>70759227
>durr safety is stupid just wave the gun around with your finger on the trigger!
>>70756175
0/10 trigger discipline
>>70760063
>canadian calling someone else retarded
Wew.
Anyway, if you purposely go running around talking about TD or you're the type of guy to yell about it in a movie theater (which I assume you are). You look and sound like an autist. Now, if you're at the range and notice it, or showing someone a gun, go for it, it's encouraged. But if you feel the need to make others like you by spewing your moronic dribble on the internet to reap in all the upvotes I just want to let you know that you're only embarrassing yourself.
>>70756175
Check out the unibomber next to squints
>>70760415
Every gun is a loaded gun you dumb fucking nogunz idiot.
>>70760697
Did you forget your meme arrows you retarded twat? Go sit in the corner now
>>70760550
That's clearly a gun safety class in the OP, so yeah noticing the guy's TD seems warranted.
You're the one sperging out like an autist right now, not the moosefucker.
>>70756175
I'll explain this picture:
1. These people are in a CWP class
2. The gun is a PROP
3. Based on what we're seeing in the picture, I'd say the instructor is discussing "left/ right eye dominance"
If you don't know anything about guns, please STFU!
>>70760910
So, what you're saying is you're too stupid to admit that you are a retard, you like to act like you know shit despite knowing nothing about guns, and you try to make it sound like I'm dumb for not using greentext when it's not even needed? Please go back to plebbit, new like you ruins the site.
>>70756175
some people should not be allowed to have a gun ,me included psychosis does not let me have a good judment.
forcing one person to have a gun is against freedon i cant be forced to own something.
>>70761226
it's very simple you yoke. no bullets in the gun means no bullets come out of the gun.
shitposters like you give burgers a bad name overall.
plebbit? i have probably been on the chans much longer than you son. not like that is some kind of victory though
>>70757161
why are you against gun freezones?
imagine a hearing or a trial with the acussed beying fucker who killed 10 people, and he is armed to death.
Anyone who doesn't want a gun doesn't deserve one.
>>70756175
The fewer mandatory extra things there are, the better.
>>70761398
>All guns are always loaded.
I hate people like you because even if you are just trolling, some idiot will take your retarded advice to heart.
>>70756349
Every response to your post is terrible so I'm just going to say, yeah Ireland's probably right on this one. But only if he reclaims Northern Ireland from the brits already.
>>70760415
>keeping your guns unloaded
>>70756175
Everyone should own a gun for the upcoming revolution
>>70756175
It might work in a White ethnically homogeneous high-trust society
They don't really exist anymore thanks to diversity
Wouldn't want groups of armed Muslims in Sydney
its so different..
does us still have very thin knockable wooden doors n shieet?
it sounds like anyone could blast a us house door with a kick
>>70756175
I don't like it it's immoral to force people to purchase a private product they do not want
>>70756349
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
>>70761477
Yeah, and you have to go through a metal detector to get to that gun free zone. While nothing is 100% fool proof, there is at least a reasonable expectation that everybody else is unarmed by the time they get to the courtroom.
This is not the case with a school or a university. Those kinds of gun free zones have guns in them all the time.
>>70756175
If it's a race-blind policy, then it's an absolutely, screamingly-retarded idea.
>>70758472
no you shoot the one that is trying to shoot you.
if you dont want to shoot you are shotted.
shooting the shooter with shooting if he himself will not shoot you.
so if you do not shoot he himself will have to shoot in order to shoot as you are not shooting.
it is all very simple.
>>70756175
I'm not paying for something I won't use.
>>70758170
Yeah it's call military service and every modern country realise it's completly useless.
>>70762577
Why?
>>70756175
It's just as stupid as no gun ownership
>>70757059
Just because everyone has a gun doesn't mean everyone is gonna use one, you can own a gun, but just keep it hiding away inside your house and never touch it
But then again why does every man woman and child need a gun?
>>70763512
Makes it more risky to commit burglary or violent crime.
>>70758170
>defense of the country
>virtually every battle that wasn't against internal revolt took place across the channel
Wew lad that's some US tier newspeak
Guns are useless. Why have them ?
> Counter islamism terrorism
Litteraly kills less people than bees. Also with bombs most of the time so guns are useless.
>Fight against gangs
Gangs fight gangs. If you need guns against them, you're most likely a nigger
> Guy going in a crazy rampage
Since it's extremely random, you can't predict it and can't react before getting shot anyway. Having EVERYONE with guns would actually make things worse because you can't just keep an eye with those with guns.
> Home invasion
The vast majority of home invasions happen witn nobody in the home, burglars are not stupid and don't want to become a murderer to steal a TV. Having guns in the mix is just escalating.
> Muh government
muh drones
>>70763908
>>virtually every battle that wasn't against internal revolt took place across the channel
You do know French kings made it there, even after Guillaume the conqueror, right ?
>>70764244
>>70764334
>the government should ban all non-vital inanimate objects
>>70764858
> we should make things I like mandatory
>>70756175
>no trigger discipline
>>70764931
>implying I claimed that
:^)
>>70765168
That's OP point, which I was replying to.
>>70765258
>Guns are useless. Why have them ?
>>70764858
I already know how to tiller a bow. I'd just have to learn some flint knapping, and I'd be golden.
>>70761477
Wouldn't the guards posted to him be armed to death? And in this case wouldn't he be scanned before the trial? This situation you made is bonkers.
>>70765309
if you know some basic welding or even some woodwork, if you want to use casts, you can make a shotgun or revolved pretty easily in a day or two.
You could even make a semi-automatic with a little more effort.
>>70756175
>Mandating that all niggers must own guns
What could possibly go wrong?
>>70756175
Why is his finger on the trigger? Is he about to shoot something on the ground? He looks like he is at a gun range. Why is no-one calling him out? Dumb as fuck desu.
>>70760697
>dry firing/Practice is not a thing
Common man it's fucking 2016.
>>70756175
It's the best way to do things.
>>70758170
Every man in Granada emirate had to possess a crossbow
>>70765523
Sure, but a bow is something that can be made even if SHTF, there was no electricity, etc... The biggest issue is just finding a long enough and straight enough piece of wood from a species that doesn't suck balls. After that, it's patience and really paying attention to details.
>>70765819
You still treat it like it was loaded. That's what "always loaded" means
>>70764334
There was a grand total of one French invasion in the two centuries when the longbow was dominant, all the other invasions were Scottish which doesn't exactly count since England was busy dominating it's butthole at the time, the only two exceptions are two pretenders to the crown (aka revolts) if you are charitable about the tail end of the longbows dominance
>>70756175
You have the right to bear arms, not the obligation. If someone wants a gun, they'll buy it. If they don't, they won't. It's as simple as that.
>>70766317
There is a reason why there is more than one standard safety rule for firearms. Multiple redundancy.
>>70756175
Neither mandatory nor forbidden. Personal discretion without restriction.
>>70759227
What if someone is shot through the internet huh?
>>70760105
Hey I am serious this would be serve the same purpose minus forcing everyone to buy a weapon or letting the tax payer foot the bill.
I mean the police will also like it when they don't have to ask you to pull out your gun out ... I guess some would like that technicality.
>>70759908
get an unregistered piece in case you off some unarmed hoodlum breaking into your home
Guns aren't for everyone. Everyone needs to be aware it is a constitutional right of law abiding citizens to be armed, if they choose to do so. The real problem becomes educating people on how to properly and legally arm themselves.
Also the citizens are also free to choose not to be armed.
>>70760105
As long as it costs nothing and is voluntary (for cc purposes in non constitutional carry areas) then I'm all for it. I firmly believe that the more people exposed to guns, taught to respect what they are capable of and taught how to be reaponsible, the lower the call for gun control will be. A govt. Or private introductory class to firearms, their proper usage and the important laws of your area concerning their usage/ownership would be nothing but a benefit. Unfortunately the grabbers are just as aware of this and would everything possible to hinder ownership, otherwise they couldn't keep people blindly voting for bans with buzzwords and blatantly wrong info.
>>70763264
>Israel
