Rush compared Trump supporters as a crazy person wanting to chop off their own arm today. Then had a really angry pro-Trump caller hang up on him (this never happens). Now he's defending Cruz taking Colorado and the "GOP primary process" again. Man, this fat fuck sucks, and I've been listening to him on & off for years now.
He also advertised Indian tractors ffs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahindra_Tractors How does that help us?
Rush after talking out of the both sides of his mouth for the last 7 months.
>>70749295
He's a pill popping junkie who called for junkies to publicly executed, the guy is a cartoon show
>>70749295
Rush Limberg
>mass media commie
>supporting democracy
fuck
Now he's defending the "party rules" and el rato again for the last 30 minutes. Saying 'people in power aren't going to give it up without a fight' as if that's acceptable.
>>70749295
Im listening to him now, hes a complete shill now. Didnt seen that way a few weeks ago.
>>70751669
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated by the Establishment.
>>70749295
How the fuck are we cutting off our own arms by supporting our candidate?
Shills gonna shill
>>70751669
Me neither. Something has changed. He started leaning toward Cruz for a while now. Drudge is on board the #TrumpTrain, which is strange because Rush still promotes Drudge.
Lots of conservative media pundits are infighting like crazy. Fox News is split, etc. Never seen this before.
>>70749295
The dude is based 99% of the time. He usually doesn't shill for the establishment but he did today. Disappointing.
>>70751770
I wonder what would happen if every cell phone tower in most major cities was destroyed.
Not because of terrorism, you see, but because minorities are taking over and they don't do basic maintenance.
>>70749295
You think thats bad, try listening to mark levin. He thrown out pretending to be a constitutional conservative and gone full on anti-trump shill.
Its the biggest 180 switch in beliefs of any radio host.
I gave up on talk radio, I loved Michael Savage but they took him off. Rush for a while was going strong and bashing the republicans for the shit they've been pulling. He is right though, it has been known Colorado wasn't going to hold a primary. This was designed to give delegates to yeb, or rubato. They never imagined yeb would be literally bullied out the race. This has been good for Trump, Cruz appears to be a weasel and now Cruz is now the establishment.
>>70749295
BREAKING: Cruz Camp Caught Cheating in St. Louis County to Steal Delegates from Trump
Jim Hoft Apr 12th, 2016 10:42 am 111 Comments
The St. Louis County Republican Caucus was held Saturday at the Missouri River Township Caucus at the Westminster Christian Academy – near highways 40 and 270 this afternoon.
Lloyd Sloan was at the conference Saturday.
Here is his firsthand account:
There were two slates that were voted on today at the convention. One was called “Cruz” and the other “Trump.” So there was no confusion there. The vote took place by a public count. It’s when there is a standing vote and everybody is counted off. It is pretty above board. The vote was tied, 27-27. But a few people in the center of the room did not vote. One guy got up and voted for Trump. So Trump won the standing vote.
I proposed a motion to combine the two slates. The chair chose to ignore my motion. It was seconded but the chair, Mark Dunn, decided to ignore the motion.
At that point the chair entertained a motion to do a secret ballot because he was a Cruzer and the wrong guy won. The motion was presented by the head of the Cruz delegation who put together and submitted the Cruz slate. It was seconded and voted on.
And, surprise! Cruz won the secret ballot!
At that point I led a small group of Trump people from the room, saying, “You wanted a divided party. You got one.”
The delegates plan to contest the results. We are collecting evidence to show what exactly happened.
I saw what I saw. I walked out. It was highly irregular.
More… Chaos broke out at the GOP St. Charles convention Saturday when the Cruz camp tried to steal the delegates there, too.
Ted Cruz lost Missouri to Donald Trump.
Trump was awarded 25 delegates to 15 for Ted Cruz.
Now there is evidence that the Cruz team violated the rules.
>>70749295
It's all part of the GOP Civil War. It time to choose a side.
>>70752078
Not just today. If you've been listening the past few weeks, he's in the tank for Cruz.
>>70751989
There was some patient in a mental ward that thought his arm was a "foreign object" and wanted to cut it off. He finally created a turnakit and gave himself gangrene so they had to cut it off. The therapists never took his fear seriously.
No one took Trump supporters' fear of the collapsing economy, etc. seriously. Now they want to destroy the country I guess is what he's saying. Though Rush still claims he prefers anyone to the dems.
>>70752263
Levin is a Jew but he always made sense. You're right though, about 2 months ago he went off the rails and starting shilling for Cruz and the establishment hard.
>>70752263
Oh, I stopped listening to him a while back. Was getting really crazy.
>>70752403
I do listen but not the full 3 hours everyday. He's never noticeably shilled one over the other until today. He must know some sort of fix is in.
>>70749295
he isn't defending the process. he is defending the fact that it was published and everyone knew about it so it isn't "stealing".
every state has it's own process for primaries. no one stole anything.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/08/gop-establishment-money-funding-mark-levin-glenn-beck-erick-erickson-to-attack-trump/
>listening to cuckservative or libtard radio
Emperor Trump is our last hope!!! free dank meme download. Help spread the message!
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/emperor-trump
>>70752717
>no one stole anything
except the Colorado GOP voters got denied a vote and a voice in this primary
Rush is on full damage control today for the GOPe.
"Muh rules"
He cant even hear people talk without his jew controlled listening device
>Rush supports Trump
He's the coolest guy ever!
>Rush supports Cruz
What a shill. Fucking Jew. I always knew he was evil and controlled opposition
>>70752854
the colorado GOP made the fucking rules. the GOP is a private club. blame the colorado GOP members.
Rush is just doing a check to see if Trump supporters understand basic democratic principles. It doesn't seem that they do. They seem to have substituted the depth of their feelings for Trump for the nomination process.
>>70753317
So you admit the GOP DID steal it from the state's voters with approval from the RNC who were aware of the blowback
>>70753317
You might blame Trump, who only hired a state coordinator in Colorado a couple days before the convention.
But always remember that Trump is infallible, and when he loses its always somebody else's fault and that he was cheated.
I remember the day I lost respect for Rush. I still kinda like him, but I don't respect him.
It was at the height of his pill popping frenzy and he was losing his hearing. It made him talk strangely.
A caller inquired about his voice change.
He actually said to his millions of listeners: "There has been no change in my speech, so I suspect you all might want to adjust your radios."
As if we are sitting around the family transistor radio with complicated tuning dials. As if millions of people have all experienced the same thing. As if people give a shit about how he sounds; the point is that he abruptly started t sound different.
LOL.
That was probably the most patronizing shit I've heard him say.
It was epic.
Then shortly thereafter, it came out he was a degenerate junkie.
Michael savage April 11, 2016 best radio ever
Does anyone know when he was rallying against Dubai ports, I want to hear that now.
>>70751516
What makes no sense about that is that a political parties power comes from numbers of donors/registered voters. Right now millions of moderate and non-right wing Christian republicans are renouncing the party because of what happened to Cuckarado. Its a big deal, the primary process is all about individual party memeber getting a say in who becomes the nominee they are supposed to vote for in November. If Trump loses through the primary process thats one thing, people will still pretty much go along with the nominee. This is different, this is the party saying "No, you can't vote because you might vote for someone we don't want and its OUR party, not yours." There will be no Republican party of national importance if this situation isn't resolved, and we will be looking at a Democratic Dynasty. Rush made his bones pandering to the right the way CNN panders to the left, he has never been an 'of the people" guy anyway.
>>70752263
Levin was bought off
Some party republicans bought half a million dollars worth of his book which just happened to activate a million dollar book bonus
I never liked the The Doors and I still don't like him.
>>70753891
https://youtu.be/rokzwTBY4Mc?t=19m40s
>rafael cruz establishment shills phone in
>>70749295
While beeing the best of the talk-radio guys, he's still a mainstream pundit. He's only in it for the shekels.
He drones on for 30 years about conservatism then backs Romneycare instead of Ron Paul. I didn't listen for 4 years and thought I never would again until the day after "only Rosie Odonell" debate. I listened everyday until about 1/4 of the way in yesterday. He's done, shilling Indian tractors doesn't help either.
>>70752263
There is a constitutional conservative club that Levin can be thrown out of? Never heard of it. But it makes perfect sense that Levin would be anti-Trump and pro-Cruz. Trump is not a constitutional conservative, whereas Cruz is. The only 180 here is the perceptions of Trumpfags, who never quite understood the direction of the show.
>>70754044
nice properly sourced information.
>>70749295
Yeah, we're crazy. And we're holding the Republican Party hostage. If you ever want to see your party alive again, you will do what we say.
>>70754499
>North American Union Cruz
>TPP Cruz
>constitutional conservative
stale meme
>>70754499
I'm on mobile and it's already been sourced elsewhere in the thread faggot
>>70749295
rush is a fat faggot who is past his prime. he hasnt been relevant for 2 decades and he cant stand it
alex jones is more credible... let that sink in. the guy who had a good carer who threw it away for conspiracy vids has more to back up his claims than rush towing the republican party line
who ever has more delegates should get the nomination. who gives a shit about a distant second?
>>70754659
>it's already been sourced >>70752742
A Roger Stone allegation? pic related.
>>70749295
He's been bought lads time to have him lose everything and give Dennis Miller the radio show he deserves
>>70754633
>things that aren't true for a hundred, Alex
>>70753322
>democratic principles
>literally no votes taken
We full Soviet now
>>70754929
>who ever has more delegates should get the nomination.
Sorry, Alex Jones nutter, pluralities are not majorities.
>>70751516
I get the point about the rules, but this isn't just a "game" we're all playing. We're supposed to have a representative government, not some elite ruling class that just does whatever the fuck they want.
And its disingenuous for them to claim "Well just go make your own party then if you don't like it". They know damn well that can't work in today's world after they and the democrats have already rigged everything in their favor, not to mention the simple "split vote" problem. These parties are nothing more than political monopolies and need to be broken up.
>>70751516
>stop resisting goyim
Not surprised that rush is a cuck in the slightest
>>70755699
I'm speaking of the basic premise that it takes a majority of delegates to win the nomination. Rush today was speaking around the feeling of entitlement that Trumpfags have, to think that Trump ought to be given the thing without having won it.
Are these people even American?
>>70749295
I hate all anti-Trumps. I just need to live in a world where they don't exist.
>>70756109
>I want my safespace
Full on SJW.
>talk radio
>>70756092
You can't win when there's no vote. You can't win when Soviet style party bosses decide who our nominee is. So in other words, the party establishment gets to create whatever rules it wants without the consent of the people?
So why don't we just abolish all elections then?
>>70753168
\thread
>>70753168
Rush never supported Trump, he's been shilling for Cruz from the beginning.
>>70749295
Rush's whole point was that Trumps supporters are desperate as fuck and the establishment doesn't understand that if these people don't see trump win they may be willing to attempt a revolution
Cruz is the ONLY Real conservative running. Why is it any surprise that Rush wouldn't defend a lifelong Democrat ?
>>70756589
You also can't win if you don't show up and play by commonly available rules.
You can pout and bitch and moan and decry a proprietary system you didn't even try to work, but that's not winning. That's whining.
>>70756589
This tbqh family. If the primary vote doesn't matter then don't hold any primaries you dicks. People take off work, etc and generally waste their time to go participate in these things. Don't bother if its not going to be counted anyway and save us the trouble.
>>70753168
He was like Mark Levine, shut up when it's possible Teddy wins this normally, rage a bitch fit when it cannot be.
Hannity is the only one staying truly neutral to it all
>>70757122
>play by the rules
Set by corrupt party bosses and the political establishment
>you haven't met the requirement a bunch of unelected commissars came up with, so sad comrade!
>>70756945
There was also the point that Rush gave plenty of sound advice that if Trump wants to get back on track to secure the necessary amount of delegates he (and his supporters) will have to actually work at it, but Trumpfags are mostly deaf on the subject, and Trump is too busy attacking the process and throwing our representative approach towards governance under the bus to cover for his own failure.
>>70753891
Everyone should be forced to listen to Savage's April 11 show. It was one of the most patriotic things I ever heard. And all the people who called up claiming to be pro-Trump delegates that were boxed out by the pro-Cruz establishment people.. sad.
>>70749295
>Trump supporter hangs up on Rush
>this never happens
I swear to god we're the only faction in this godforsaken party with any balls.
>>70757122
Are you honestly blind to the fact that this is exactly the same shit the Founding Fathers revolted against? Whether or not it's "proprietary" or done in the open has nothing to do with whether or not it's right.
>>70749295
Never liked Rush. He's too much of a republican shill. I've always respected Michael Savage the most out of the big conservative talk show guys by far. He does a lot more than just the generic democrats=bad, republicans=good.
use to be a long time rush listener myself but stopped after the 2012 election. i use to like him but after he shilled hard for romney i lost interest in the man.
a few months back i started to listen to him again for a bit because i curious at what "mainstream conservatives" are saying and you could easily tell he didn't particularly favor trump.
from what it sounded like he was a rubio shill but i stopped listening to him before rubio dropped out.
it puzzles me why he doesn't support trump. you would think one self made millionaire would back a self made billionaire. i guess over the years the establishment left a mark on him. one shill for another.
>>70757334
There was no rule in Colorado that said Trump had to wait until the second weak of April to hire a state coordinator.
There was no rule established by party bosses that said Cruz couldn't either, and everybody knows the party will attempt to circumvent a Cruz nomination as well. Yet Cruz has been working the state hard for months to identify supporters and to bring them to the convention. Trump didn't.
When the convention begins and Cruz has more support in the room than Trump, it will be entirely Trump's fault, and to Cruz's credit.
>>70758011
>rule
>rule
>rule
>rule
see >>70757334
>>70758084
>but Trumpfags are mostly deaf on the subject
>>70758011
>Muh rules
I have rules too, you treasonous little shit. I don't vote for political parties that give the nomination to candidates that don't have the most votes. Those are my rules. Lots of voters like me have the same rules. Didn't know about them? Well you should have found out beforehand.
#NeverCruz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rokzwTBY4Mc
everyone should listen to this
>a pajeet was the first caller
>>70758011
Oh, so the problem isn't that there wasn't a vote, it's that Trump hasn't played the corrupt establishment game! Because some unelected party bosses decided to make a "rule"!
So then we're back to the original question- why have a vote if it really doesn't matter? If we've turned into a complete plutocracy that doesn't follow democratic principles, why not abolish all elections?
The parties can just make rules to take care of everything.
>>70758011
It's about the principle you dumb shit. The idea is that we live in a representative democracy not party bosses making deals behind closed doors. The people should elect the nominee.
>>70758182
You see, that's the difference between you and I. As an American, I understand basic democratic principles in our representative system, that in order to win one must have a majority of votes, not simply a lot of them.
Is telling us to not fall for the wall?! He needs to go down pol
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/275998-zuckerberg-criticizes-fearful-voices-calling-for-building-walls
>>70758441
That's not true at all. There are plenty of presidents that have been elected with the plurality of the vote not the majority.
>>70758441
Get this through your head you quisling piece of shit. Nobody cares about what you "understand". Understand this. If Cruz continues down this road and snatches the nomination without having the most votes, it will be a Pyrrhic victory and he will go into the general election without Trump supporters. I for one will actively work against him with the liberals.
Hey, those are the rules. You should respect them.
>>70751516
If this was happening to anyone other than Trump, or if this were Democrats doing this he'd be furious.
"There are no bad tactics, only bad targets."
>>70758282
>it's that Trump hasn't played the corrupt establishment game!
But he has for many, many decades. As a means of allaying people's potential concerns that he wasn't relatable, being a billionaire, Trump bragged about having played the system to get ahead as a means to secure your devotion to him, with the implication being that he was singularly qualified to change that system, knowing what that entailed.
And here he failed you according to your initial criteria, and now you're enjoying the pity party. Because Trump knows you like that angle too.
>>70758011
>and everybody knows the party will attempt to circumvent a Cruz nomination as well.
Yes, after a contested convention is guaranteed. Until that moment they rig everything for Cruz.
>>70758273
I don't like his voice (sounds like a typical NY chew), and he's a hardcore zionist which is hard to listen to whenever anyone calls critical of his beloved israel.
>>70758802
Oh, so when he runs for office, he shouldn't act like a non-corrupt politician then.
Nice dodge by the way. It keeps you from facing the logical conclusion of your statist views
>>70749295
These pundits change their views on purpose to generate ground swell.
It's buisiness as usual for Rush
are we getting raided by r/berniesanders?
bern in hell you commie faggots
>>70749295
He is controlled opposition.
He gets your dick hard, but never let's you release.
Fuck the government, up until you pull their pants off.
Fuck the establishment, up until you are about to actually do a real blow to them.
Listening to hannity becoming more disillusioned about this whole thing is the only saving grace.
>>70756092
>Rush today was speaking around the feeling of entitlement that Trumpfags have, to think that Trump ought to be given the thing without having won it.
>ought to be given the whole thing
maybe they think people should have, you know, voted on it?
>>70758916
The other day he called Bernie antisemitic. I cracked a smile.
Thats why I cant listen to Rush regularly, too much of a Cruz shill
Savage only way to go
He's really disappointed me with defending cruz's weaselly bullshit. I don't care if he supports the rat, he shouldn't defend backroom politics and blatant voter suppression.
Rush is trolling for attention then will immediately backpedal after attention is gained by saying "oh thats not what I said"
See: Madonna and other celebrities who create controversy for publicity.
Regardless after 2012 do not support Rush or Fox anymore. They are to Republicans and Conservatives what televangelists are to religion.
>>70749295
Colorados system is completely fucked up. All the delegates are practically super delegates. The voters vote for who gets to be a delegate but the delegate can vote for whomever they want. When the backroom deals are being done there are no rules. You can literally pay them money to make them vote for you.
>>70758639
Different election, different rules.
>>70758717
>it's my way or the highway
Loser talk like that will never win. You'd know this if you hadn't listened to liberals far too much in your time already. So no big loss.
>>70758802
Trump's a smart guy, a bit of a bully, but at least he's come clean about that.
As a buisiness man there was no incentive to work for anyone but himself, otherwise he'd lose his competetive edge.
As a president, his victories become our victories. There's there's no incentive for him to play into anyone else's hands.
Trump's desire to be president is rooted in his existential plight to project order in a world that otherwise favors inequality and chaos. Being president is the greatest thing he can do for his 7 grandchildren and their children. It's an investment in the future of America.
>>70749295
>Jim
>Morrison
>>70759585
>So no big loss.
We'll see about that, traitor.
All rush does is talk party politics. It's 24/7 the same bullshit. Meanwhile the left pushes the country further and further every year while nothing is down about it.
>>70759104
Different states, different rules. Some have primaries, some caucuses, some conventions. If "the people" want those processes changed, there's an (relatively) easy way to do it. Get more people into a room and vote on different rules.
>>70759585
What kind of copout is that? The fact is that basic democratic principles does not exclude a plurality win in every situation.
>muh rules
The rules in Colorado were corrupt and anti-democracy. Plain and simple.
>>70749295
>Rush Limbaugh
>Relevant
>>70759213
Cruz worked for the better part of a year to identify supporters so that he could bring them to the convention. Hard work should be lauded, not criticized and thought of as scheming.
Who gives a shut what Rush says, really.
One days he's pro-something, then he's anti-that thing.
Back-and-forth.
>>70759997
>Cruz sucked GOP dick for a year and should be lauded.
>>70749295
rush shilled this weekend
>>70759919
>The fact is that basic democratic principles does not exclude a plurality win in every situation.
For general popular vote elections, sure. Not for the nomination process.
>What kind of copout is that?
Copout? Look, this is really, really basic stuff. Step one to process of competing is learning what the rules are to the game you want to play.
>>70760321
You keep holding up the establishment's "rules" as if they are anything but shit, but the people have rules too. They're telling you what their rules are. You don't care about those rules, so why should the people care about the establishment's rules?
Some neocons wrote some shit down and called it "the rules". So what? What is your point?
>>70760321
If you support democracy, you should acknowledge that Colorado was bullshit. It's very simple; what they did there was textbook, corrupt politics.
>but the rules
That's doesn't mean it's not wrong.
>everyone upset about colorado
>but the rules clearly state you should enjoy not having a say
>it's the rules, you know
>stop being angry
Oligarch supporters are the worst people.
>>70759997
Yep, worked real hard!
ITT: Goyim still bluepilled about kikes.
Rush has always been a Neocon propagandist. He's funny and often anti-PC. He's also clever-- more clever than his listeners. who are apparently only half awake to how much cleverer he is than they are.
>>70757069
>the demonically possessed Canadian Jew is the only true conservative
[heh]
>>70760488
I'm not going to sit here in a state with different rules than the state of Colorado and judge the process of that state by those of my own. I'm smarter than that. By which I mean I'm not a simpleton.
Ignorance is not generally thought of as a good thing. But then of course there are certain kinds of candidates from certain political persuasions who thrive on rising through the ignorance of their supporters.
>>70760999
>>but the rules clearly state you should enjoy not having a say
"the people" of Colorado could have become party members, participated in their local precincts, moved on to congressional district conventions and become delegates to the convention, but evidently couldn't be arsed to.
Kind of like Trump's own children, who couldn't even be bothered to switch their party affiliation from Democrat to Republican so that they could vote for their (until recently self-identified Democrat) dad.
>>70759860
How many other states left that are "conventions"?
>>70762013
Once again, you keep justifying the establishment's rules, and ignoring the people's rules. I know that cuckservatives struggle to understand concepts like this, because you foolishly view America as an "idea" instead of people with a culture and beliefs. And in that culture there is a belief, whether you like it or not, that elections should be decided by voters directly. Those are our rules. If you were ignorant of those rules, then that is your fault, not ours. You could have asked us.
So when the rules of the establishment conflict with the rules of the people, whose rules should prevail? You, as a Cruz supporter, say the establishment's rules should prevail. And that is why Cruz is unacceptable to so many people.
>>70760091
If you care to characterize motivating people to turn out to vote as dick sucking, I guess Trump is well versed this year in sucking dick, right?
Or will you try to find some new, more clever way of hypocritically criticizing one politician over another based on your partisanship?
>>70749295
I dont get how this obese pill head gets any viewers
hes always been a dumb fat faggot, my views switching from liberal to conservative over the years hasn't changed my opinion of him
>>70749295
He's paid to be paid to say shit on the radio. Paid opposition pays.
Why isn't the primary run by the government so avoid biases for something as important as nominess for the presidency?
>>70762572
The parties are supposed to be private organizations. We should probably change that though.
>>70762572
Because they are private parties. There is no "government mandated party" to be held accountable. They could change the rules and requirements a day before the convention and guys like >>70762013 would go along with it saying "Oh but it's the rules! Not our fault you didn't follow them!"
>>70762218
A lot do it by convention ultimately, but most of those are tied to the popular vote in some way or another, by statewide or congressional district. Only a couple states don't bother with the beauty contest, Colorado being the last.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016
>>70749295
He's just doing what he has been told.
They'll do anything to save the Bush name from the 9/11 Docs and maintain the legacy with the Clinton's for the NWO.
Jesus Christ I cannot stand Ted on hannity right now Holy fucking shit the smarmy fuck
>>70762332
I'm not in the practice of considering greatly the opinion of one who increasingly sounds as you do to be one of those direct democracy supporting leftists, no.
>>70749295
In that analogy Trump supporters were the arm, and the gop is willing/wanting to cut it off.
>>70762813
>I know! we should have a state party!
And people ITT call me a statist.
>>70763203
Yeah, we know that you establishment shills don't care about our opinions. You don't care about America in general. That's why we're trying to throw your bums out of office.
But you can't call us ignorant of the establishment's rules when you were ignorant of the people's rules. And now that Cruz and his establishment buddies have run afoul of the people's rules, this is what's happening. The divide is deepening. If you think limping into a general election with a deep divide like this one is going to help Cruz, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
>>70762838
>would go along with it
I wouldn't, of course. Because the rules in your instance would have changed mid-course, on the basis of who at the moment was winning. And that actually is cheating the process, whereas what happened in Colorado and Trump is merely lying about it as usual.
>>70749295
>getting your political info from a fat dope fiend
it's 2016
Rush has disliked Trump from the beginning and always favored Cruz. Now he is finally just being open about it. It was a slow turn, compared to Mark Levin who was a fast turn.
>>70763457
>whereas what happened in Colorado and Trump
whereas what happened in Colorado isn't; Trump
>>70763130
And holy shit cruz is going insane liberal attack dog on trump this is Pissing me off
>>70763457
The rules changed in July, The race started in July. The rules changed the same year as the political race was starting and no one knew of this change until months after the fact. That's why the Trump crowd is angry. Not because of the rules, but because of the timing of change to the rules.
since when has Cruz been anti establishment?
they all say it as if the party knows they're going to fuck over Trump and start selling it to Trump supporters to try and win back their votes
>>70763767
Since the beginning of his senatorial career at the very least, when he defeated the establishment candidate to take office. And in how he's conducted himself ever since he got into office as well.
Don't tell me you thought to keep yourself informed as to the election and the people involved in it simply by reading Trump Generals. That would be exceedingly foolish.
>>70764505
anti establishment to me is someone who's never held a public office
since I don't yet own a NSA(Tm) citizen tracking vehicle 2017 complete with Sirius satellite radio, I am forced to listen to regular radio every fucking day on my 90 minute commute.
So my best option for news is this KEK Glen Beck and this LESS OF A KEK BUT STILL FUCKING KEK Rush Limbaugh.
I literally scream and slam my drink into the cup holder so hard that it sprays liquid all over the inside of my truck. These fucking cucks say the shillest cuckest horseshit.
Beck is the worst but Rush at least pretends to be impartial for one sentence per paragraph before hitting the Cruz shill button hard
>>70763758
>and no one knew of this change until months after the fact
That's flat out wrong. Besides the fact that none of this is secret and is promoted in local media (and as such is commonly available to interested residents), all of the campaigns are provided with a full set of rules governing the elections in the various states and provinces. If Trump's "crowd" is uninformed, it's because Trump did not inform them.
Which is entirely in character with Trump.
>>70764505
If Cruz is anti-establishment how come he worked for Dubya in the 2000 election, is an Ivy leaguer, authored the TPA with Paul Ryan, has a wife who works in the CFR of Goldman Sachs, has an ex-CIA agent as his campaign manager, modeled his campaign after Obama's 2008 campaign, didn't vote to audit the fed, and has the establishment funding and endorsing his campaign (like Mittens, JEB, and Lindsay Graham)
>>70764505
His anti establishment status is really from him jumping the gun. The party elites haven't chosen him, and he took it upon himself rather than wait.
The man had been in politics most of his life, his dad was involved in the Reagan administration. Cruz is a career politician.
>>70760654
>>but the rules
are the rules. A corrupt process is one which does not abide by the rules, or changes them mid-stream. That did not happen, though it is entirely like Trump to pretend something happened which did not, and lash out attacking something or someone as a mechanism to disguise his own failings.
In fact, that's how he conducts himself often.
>>70749295
He is an establishment Shill. So is Hannity. Still listen to them when I drive. Hannity can't ask a tough question to save his life....
They keep trying to portray Cruz as an outsider and anti-establishment. Which is false. Cruz worked for Bush for heaven's sake and has been involved in establishment for years
Started listening to talk radio a couple of months ago. Really liked Rush until I discovered that he's repeating himself like a broken record and never talks about anything else than the republican primary. Seldom talks about why the democrats are shit.
Tried Levin. He's an arrogant little shit. Hannity is alright.
Now I only listen to Savage. Brings up different topics all the time, doesn't drone on about the rep primary every single minute except for when it's really relevant, like yesterday when he talked about colorado. Mostly too short and condescending towards callers, but hey you can't get everything.
>>70753564
Wow, I had pretty much the same experience, but I quit after he started saying "I was born to do radio, and you were born to listen to me."
Rush is the best though. What did he ever do to upset all of yous?
>>70762572
The government electing the next government is a bit silly.
They certainly should step in to make sure the main parties are selected democratically though.
>>70764505
you do realize the GOP made him a anti-establishment persona right?
hes "anti-establishment" because thats what the GOP made it appear as. they needed a candiate that was their puppet to appeal to the anti-establishment crowd to control them.
the problem is the trump card was played and caught them off guard.
if they hated cruz like they hated trump they would of never did what they did in CO. he would of failed months ago. they wanted rubio but cruz was their backup guard. it was post to be a race between cruz and rubio, not trump being in the mix.
bush knew he was going to lose but was in there as the wild card.
a man like cruz who proclaims himself as a man of the people, a loving, fair christian, anti-establishment, goes against the establishment, you would think he would come out denouncing what the GOP did in CO.
but he didn't. he accepted it with open arms and calls trump a cry baby. cruz has zero integrity. hes willing to win by pulling and accepting sleazeball moves.
yeah hes a snake. hes two faced. hes worse than bush. hes worse than ronmeny and mccain. hes worse than obama and worse than hillary.
what they just pulled in CO shows they will pull it at a broker convention. the GOP committed suicide with the CO stunt and now officially lost the election.
welcome mrs. president clinton 2016!
>>70765233
What kind of reatrded braindead shilling is this?
>rules are rules
You do realise you are on pol right?Or are you actually brain dead?
M-muh rules to let people actually vote.
Pol already hates the establishment and their "rules" that only allows shills to be elected.
Do you read what you write, braindead shill?
>>70765248
>Cruz worked for Bush for heaven's sake
Literally thousands upon thousands of people worked for Bush for heaven's sake, and you're an complete idiot to hold that every single one of those folks are establishment. So your criteria with regards to Cruz is worthless. It is therefore incumbent upon you to determine if Cruz were a highly intergal element to Bush's administration, which of course you would refuse to do, because that you'd quickly uncover that Cruz was not. And that doesn't serve your political narrative lie.
>>70749295
He is the embodiment of the GOP establishment, what did you expect.
>>70765773
The most pathetic excuse for a damage control i ve ever seen.Try again:
>>70765028
>>70765773
Cruz was a top legal advisor, not some random desk jockey.
well legally the father has to take his daughters virginity, thems the rules.
wut do?
>>70765941
>The most pathetic excuse for a damage control i ve ever seen.
Rather, it's a concise dissection of how bullshit political narratives are passed around and disseminated frequently to assume (for certain susceptible people) the semblance of truth.
>>70749295
Michael Savage is the only one actually talking about this on a non-retarded level
The fact that Cruz didn't denounce this just proves that he's not the "Constitutional conservative" he claims to be, so he's lost my vote
>>70766431
Lol, nope.As i said, try again.
>>70749295
>I've been listening to him on & off for years now.
Stop doing that.
He's legit part of the MSM so he has to be constantly tone policed and, not to mention, he's also pro-establishment.
Look for other sources of your news that isn't as castrated as anything that get's streamed for public consumption.
I don't necessarily hate the guy, but he's holding you back, and so it that faggot Mark Levin and that Jew Micheal Savage.
>>70765773
he's been an insider for his whole pathetic political career. Hiding information and loans before an election isn't someone I can trust. He did it again in the presidential elections, The Madman!!
>That voice
>posture
>facial expressions
>mannerisms
If you can't tell this guy is dishonest then you might be autistic.
>>70765773
some recent examples of dishonesty
>ben carson
>using his super PAC to attack Melania and then completely denying any involvement
>Steal deligates in Co, and St. Louis
anyone else wanna add to this?
>>70766431
Is cruz a true conservative or anti establishment? I can never remember.
>>70765210
>The man had been in politics most of his life
Law. Not the same thing.
>his dad was involved in the Reagan administration
No he wasn't.
>>70766201
Yes, Cruz was a essentially random desk jockey, which is why he quit the administration after a year and moved back to Texas, which is where he built his own reputation as solicitor general.
Basic biographical detail.
>>70764625
>anti establishment to me is someone who's never held a public office
That's not a good measure. In fact it's a very bad one, as obviously one can be very much a part of the establishment without ever holding public office.
Not even a good one if only you were discussing "party establishment," as distinct from the economic/political/cultural one most people think about when discussing the term, for in that case you'd be lumping in any reformer elected alongside those of the leadership by whose whims the party really moved. And that clearly would be a mistake.
>>70767328
goddamn I can't stand the sight of his face
>>70766849
If I own a business, it does not follow that I am an industrialist.
>>70766905
>I have magic powers that allow me to assess someone's character through examination of his physical features.
Literal autism.
>>70767152
Things that Trump says happened that haven't are called political slanders, anon. You might want to check your objectivity. But then considering above, it's likely impossible.
>>70768092
once you step into the light, the sight of something so false is disgusting. I cringe when I hear him speak. This goes for most politicians or people that I was friends with that are dishonest
>>70767862
when's the last time anyone who's never held public office, and who refused large donations (to an extent, I'm not here to debate that) made it this far in a presidential race?
to me, that's anti establishment
you're going against the normal way those get elected, and that's why people like him
Cruz is the face of the republican establishment and whatever the GOP is doing right now is starting to piss off the rest of us who voted for Trump.
the gop is doomed
>>70767328
That poor man has a terminal case of ILATS.
>>70767152
>campaign released video with subtitles that made it look like Rubio mocked the bible
>lies about Trump's stances on issues
>voter violations sent to people of Iowa
>said wall was a stupid idea then when he go to Arizona all of a sudden he's for a wall
>was pro amnesty now he's anti amnesty
>"""""forgot""""" to disclose Goldman Sachs loan
>oops! forgot to disclose the Citi bank loan too!
these are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head
>>70768612
>to me, that's anti establishment
Well, fine. But yours is still a horrible measure for who is and who isn't establishment. Bill Gates, by you, is just one of the folks.
>made it this far in a presidential race?
Try to step back for an objective look at things. As "far" as Trump is, he is the weakest front-runner in any of our lifetimes, for by this time in any previous election cycle it would already be in the bag, or with his accumulation of the needed delegates assured.
>you're going against the normal way those get elected, and that's why people like him
Objectivity again. Most people in fact do not like him, to a great degree. Even so, of those that do, that preference came before votes started to be tallied, so again I think you're wrong in the way you describe things.
>Cruz is the face of the republican establishment
Cruz is that aforementioned reformer.
>and whatever the GOP is doing right now is starting to piss off the rest of us who voted for Trump.
Well that's fine too, but even you'd have to admit that those that support Trump were pissed off well before Trump came on the scene. Something Trump could recognize, and play into. Which brings us to this point.
Decisions made in anger are often not the best ones.
>>70769554
^
Tip to all the Cruz shills try and at least front some memes if you want me to actually read a wall of text, especially on a Finnish finger painting forum
>>70769554
>Try to step back for an objective look at things. As "far" as Trump is, he is the weakest front-runner in any of our lifetimes, for by this time in any previous election cycle it would already be in the bag, or with his accumulation of the needed delegates assured
Retard, Trump led the largest primary turnout in history.And no other front runner has had to deal with so many attacks from his own party.
"the weakest front-runner in any of our lifetime"
You mean the guy who was never gonna make it this far?The guy no one was ever gonna actually vote for?The guy with a ceiling of 20%?
Cuckservitaves and your pathetic damage control.
>>70768924
>wow. ok, so you probably work for the Applied memetic
That's not a thing. It's pol's latest way of responding
>JIDF
instead of dealing with an opposing argument.
>you have 35 posts
I have 35 posts because people here are becoming more and more incredulous or enraged at simple observations, widely known information and logical points. Or simply because there's someone in others' midsts who is positive about Ted Cruz.
Circlejerks are like that.
>do you really expect us to believe his donors expect nothing in return for the money they have given him?
I've given Ted a nice chuck of change and got some nice merch in return.
>Also, you obviously are surrounded by politicians if his creepy rehearsed, almost perfected mannerisms don't freak you the fuck out like they do most people.
Or I'm just old enough and reasonable enough to understand you can't judge books by their covers.
If I did that, I'd absolutely loath Donald J. Trump on a personal level like an increasing amount of people, and would be vowing on some hashtag to never vote for him.
>>70769554
>Bill Gates, by you, is just one of the folks.
if he ran for president on his own money yes
but somehow I doubt if he ran he wouldn't be chock full of corporate sponsors, unlike trump
>he is the weakest front-runner in any of our lifetimes, for by this time in any previous election cycle it would already be in the bag, or with his accumulation of the needed delegates assured.
source?
>Cruz is that aforementioned reformer.
goldman sachs donations are not reform
>Decisions made in anger are often not the best ones.
platitudes to skirt an argument are in fact not an argument
>>70749295
He's defending the process because that is the process.
Why does no one understand him?
Everyone thought he had a boner for trump but all he does is explain things rationally
>>70770670
>That's not a thing
lol Gabriella fuck off
>>70769888
Note to nu-/pol/ that it was never a requirement to keep up the meme act once discussions got going previous to the place becoming utter garbage, peopled by simpering morons or clapping seals who didn't get that half the stuff posted here was satire and actually thought they were keeping company with like minded individuals.
>>70749295
>how does that help us
you're in the wrong party faggot, take trump and fuck off
thanks
>>70770670
>absolutely loath Donald J. Trump on a personal level like an increasing amount of people
increasingly nervous man actually said increasing non ironically
>>70771119
remember where you are newfriend
>>70770670
Pretentious shill/10
I admire the autism... I mean dedication though.Hopefully you get pages well.Or do you just like to copulate with rats?
>>70754929
>towing the republican party line
like... pulling a rope?
>>70771235
Positive/negative favorability ratings are not given ironically, anon. They're past Hillary's terrible ratings and are climbing. There's a reason for that, and it's not simply because some liberal useful idiots call him Literally Hitler . . . as they have every other Republican who ever lived.
Claiming to be the largest victim in the world and castigating the process by which candidates are chosen as a way to distract from the fact that he got aced in Colorado and is actually unpopular and opposed by Republicans is one of those reasons. Very few people actually like a dishonest demagogue supported by folks who openly hate them that will be needed as allies once the primary is concluded.
>>70771239
It was bad in previous election cycles, but I don't think it was ever this bad.
>>70772338
>MUH FAVORIBILITY RATINGS
If they are indicators of who wins elections than Ron Paul would've been the nominee in 2012, HW Bush would have a second term along with Carter (as Bill and Reagans favoribilities were terrible as Reagan at this point had the same Unfavorability as trumps) and Ben Carson would've been the front runner
>>70772632
You're wasting your breath.
Cruz shills don't understand that Trump is tanking 99% of the incoming damage from the left, and Cruz is benefiting from that. If Trump were to exit this race, the moment that happened Cruz would receive all of that incoming fire that Trump has been absorbing, and he'd crumble and his ratings would plummet.
Cruz supporters are stupid.
>>70755699
If you'd vote against your party you don't understand the process.
>>70755998
>We're supposed to have a representative government, not some elite ruling class that just does whatever the fuck they want.
That is literally what politics is.
What's with all the Cruz shills all of a sudden?
>>70772632
>Ron Paul would've
>would've
If more people were more guided by their intellect than their prejudices he might have been, but then Ron was a terrible candidate. As for the typical Reagan excuse, it should always be pointed out that his opponent was an incumbent president, more susceptible to worsening conditions or bad moments than anyone.
>HW Bush would have a second term
Case in point. If the election happened right after the Persian Gulf war he would have won in a landslide. His favorables at that point in his presidency was 91%. Not so much after he busted his tax pledge, though.
>>70772796
Cruz supporter have memories that extend beyond the last few seconds and can recall that time not too long ago when Ted Cruz was the left's public enemy #1. Just before Trump came along and dished out some red meat like he was dispensing it from his specially made, diamond encrusted candy dish.
They (we) know that Cruz can take it perfectly in stride. It's how he's gotten to this point.
>>70772131
>Can you tell us at least a 'hint' of your day job
/a/ is not my blog.
>>70768380
being able to tell a liar from a person giving to you straight.
>autistic
>knowledge from experience
Pick one, kid
>>70773669
>As for the typical Reagan excuse, it should always be pointed out that his opponent was an incumbent president, more susceptible to worsening conditions or bad moments than anyone.
Ok why not go back to before Reagan and look at Richard Nixon who had also had worse favoribilities than Hupert Humphrey who wasn't an incumbent but had close connections with the previous president (like Hillary to Obongo). But despite those low facoribles Nixon won in a landslide.
>>70767862
>>70768147
>>70768380
have you noticed a chameleon effect on Trumps views that become popular and how Rato adopts them as his own a couple weeks later?
>Gang of Eight
>pro amnesty
to name a few
I only listened to him once in the past couple years, a few months ago, and he seemed very pro Trump. And it was a time when the media was in full attack mode on Trump too. I almost listened to him more often because of it but I have a job and don't listen to cuck radio all day.
Why did he do a 180 when it seemed he was pretty close to endorsing Trump a few months ago?
>>70773669
>Cruz supporter have memories that extend beyond the last few seconds and can recall that time not too long ago when Ted Cruz was the left's public enemy #1. Just before Trump came along and dished out some red meat like he was dispensing it from his specially made, diamond encrusted candy dish.
>They (we) know that Cruz can take it perfectly in stride. It's how he's gotten to this point
Lol, bitch please.Cruz has taken zero in "zero in stride" this election.His camping is rated by voters as "unfair" right behind Trump.And is right behind Trump in unfavorable as well.He also lost his precious evangelicals to Trump on a couple of states.
Little Rat will get eaten alive in the general.No one has played much attention to the gay killing pastors supporting Ted because Trump has shield him but not for much longer.
Also people polled think he is the Zodiac Killer.He is that creepy and unlikable.
>>70774700
>I'll be one of those guys to lie about Ted's part in the battle over the Gang of Eight, and try to portray him as being behind it, rather than opposed to it
Oh, it's you.
>pay no attention to Ted's standout ratings on immigration
>>70775150
Shill, please.It's hilarious the delusion that you are deflecting or countering anything.
https://youtu.be/xtL41Pr2d5s
https://youtu.be/FRPwgfc3RHc
>>70749295
Lush Rimbaughs has always been on the BUSH LOVE BOAT.
Just got home
let me listen to Joe Pags on the internet,
2nd commercial about Cruz's bottom bitch who works at Goldman sachs and the gross pic
well I guess time to go straight to Savage Nation sorry Joe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA0YT9HqPaY
Make sure to listen to yesterdays Savage Nation if you want to hear someone say your thoughts out loud.
>>70774465
I gave you a hint.
>>70774773
>I only listened to him once in the past couple years
Well you certainly would be representative of many Trump supporters, with an opinion on Ted Cruz just as valuable.
But for a serious answer? What Cruz was doing before "he did a 180" doesn't have to do with Trump, per se. Not everything revolves around Trump.
Would you like to know more?
>>70775561
>and for my next act, I'll post some propaganda
Oh, it's not seen the same guy, but that trolling Bulgarian.
You're not working very hard for those (You)s, so have pity (You).
>>70774773
he wasn't really defending trump during those times as more as using it as an example of "biased" media. he's done this a few times in the past even with people he didn't fancy as a showcase of "drive by media."
if you listen to the way he talked about trump and rubio back then you can easily tell he favored rubio far more than trump. cruz came off as a secondary liking.
I'll still tune in everyday to see if Mark Steyn is filling in.
>>70776385
>Oh, it's not seen the same guy, but that trolling Bulgarian.
>You're not working very hard for those (You)s, so have pity (You)
No, poor shill.Your friends haven't gotten here yet.Ratto forgot to pay them?You are the one left alone baiting and shilling for (You)s
Keep trying.
wew lad
I just listened to the show now. He didn't defend the system, you cunts. He said it was broken and designed the establishment, but he said Trump should have known better. That's all. Stop whining you faggots.
Rush bashes the establishment all the time, you niggers. Go listen to that doddering Jew Savage.
>>70749295
link ?
>>70778534
He was talking about how great Cruz's "victory" was all day yesterday.
>>70773041
christian radicals. /pol/ is full of them if you haven't noticed. i think half of them never really liked trump he was just the only one to stand up for their jew god
>>70778534
stay out of our affairs euro cuck
>migrants
>>70778899
It was a great victory. Cruz was smart enough to realize just how many hoops he had to jump through in order to secure delegates and pre-emptively took advice (>>70778534) that Trumpfags here take as Rush siding with the establishment to demean them, or bailing on Trump, or whatever.
But as above, Trumpfags are mostly deaf on the subject.
>>70749295
Rush is a fat, hypocritical, junkie piece of shit. Always has been.
>>70779502
>It was a great victory.
It was a hollow, voteless backroom victory, and shows how little el rato cares about the will of the people.
>>70779870
But you're wrong, anon. There were votes. (>>70759997). And what that shows is that Cruz actually cared to work for them.
>>70779502
>hey look! i didn't get the vote of the people, but i got the delegates! that means people love me even though the majority didn't vote for me!
If Cruz wins and after this stunt the GOP did with CO, good chunk of the republican voter base will not vote for him in the general election. CO was so bad many are not only considering, but will vote Hillary in the general election to ensure a landslide Hillary victory.
The GOP ensured their destruction by doing the VERY THING THE MAJORITY OF ANGRY REPUBLICAN AND INDEPENDENT TRUMP SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN ANGRY ABOUT. Pulling nonsense stunts like this with CO.
>>70780398
THE PEOPLE OF CO DIDN'T GET TO VOTE.
THE GOP DELEGATES VOTED THEMSELVES AND DIDN'T GIVE THE PEOPLE OF CO THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
THE GOP ESSENTIALLY VOTED THEMSELVES WHO THE WINNER WILL BE.
>>70752403
>turnakit
Kek it's spelled tourniquet.
>>70753168
I never liked Rush Limbaugh.
Hell he went on Family Guy and admitted that Republicans are evil.
How anyone takes this cuck seriously is beyone me.
>>70780494
>THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN VOTER BASE ARE HISTRIONIC FAGGOTS FULLY INVESTED IN TRUMP
Nah. Not even close.
>>70780597
Did you flip your shit in all caps the last time there was a vote held in a non-primary state?
Man, am I going to laugh at all these pathetic Rato shill NEETs when Clinton is President because of them.
>>70753891
I fuckin love this schmendrick
>cuckservative party collapses
Kek
>feelings of entitlement among trump supporters
Will it be feelings of entitlement when thousands of them show up to cleveland armed or will they finally realize they're in danger of a full blown revolution?
He's paid hundreds of millions for a reason. Trlling the truth and being a patriot/loyal son the the West is not one.
He's a degenerate will plenty of dirt on him I'd imagine. Go with a real show, Alex Jones. He posted AIDS Skrillex meme videos today.
>>70781308
>non-primary state
>that kike-ish, causal dismissal of the state voters
This is why your party is going to die after this cycle.
>Cuban-Canadian Edward Raphael "Rato" Cruz and his supporters destroy themselves with blatant shilling and underhanded tactics.
The internet is seriously the best thing ever. I wonder how long your brand of filth have been manipulating things, but the people didn't have the tools to see it.
>>70753564
When the whole Edward Snowden shit went down, Rush said the reason we should be against what Snowden did is because the Dems are for it. And then said, "Don't question me folks". He also showed a lot of contempt for Ron Paul.
>>70782574
>that dismissal
is obvious a leading question. You here are playing up the role of the aggrieved voter as if the nomination process in all the states are or should be open primaries. This has never been the case. Open primaries, incidentally, being where Trump does best owing to the fact that in a crowded field where the winning threshold is much lower, Democrats can just walk in and decide the Republican nominee.
And perhaps that's reason enough for some states to have decided well beforehand that there should be nominal barriers to participation.
>This is why your party is going to die after this cycle.
It's not my party, BTW. I don't live in a state that requires me to register in order for me to vote in the process. Now, if I moved to Colorado, it would be incumbent upon me to become a Republican should I wish to have a say.
It's amazing how republics work like that.
