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https://www.rt.com/news/339352-hawking-breakthrough-starshot-space/
WE SPACE NIGGAS NOW
>Hawking, Milner & Zuckerberg to send tiny craft to another star system at near-light speed
>Russian businessman Yury Milner joined forces with Stephen Hawking and Mark Zuckerberg to launch the Breakthrough Starshot project, aiming to send a robot to Alpha Centauri in the next 20 years.
>The automated probe is being sent to Alpha Centauri, and is expected to reach it in 20 years. Called a "nano-craft" due to only weighing a gram, it will be sent 25 trillion miles – or 4.37 light years – by beam of light.
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>>70743105
Even 1 gram is a big no to reach light speed, whats the propulsion?
>>70744131
this, what if it hits a planet lol
>>70744131
Laser, nigger.
If it's that small how do we know it won't veer far off course because of something's gravitational pull? Or it could just collide with some small space rock and be destroyed.
>>70744131
to be precise: its near-light speed
>whats the propulsion
They use a high powered (100 GW) laser beam to push the probe into space.
How exactly that works?
no idea
>>70743105
I'm sure the ayy lmaos will be cool with us firing lightspeed satellites at their home system
>>70743105
And do we get any info back?
>>70745094
>>70744131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtPBqJ8XmWQ
>>70744940
>>70744465
Space is fucking empty you dumb niggers.
>>70743105
And in 40 years we get invaded. Thanks Jews.
I honestly do not understand why anyone wants to contact ayy lmaos
>>70745371
First Contact War when?
>>70744940
An object that small won't have a large pull to it.
Plus, I'm sure the probe will have some type of maneuvering system.
What a fucking waste of time, energy and money. I hate spacefags so goddamn much
>>70744131
there is no friction in space you fucking retard, you can just keep giving it little pushes and the acceleration will just keep building up, over 25 trillion miles it's no issue of reaching NEAR light speed, the hard part is slowing it down.
For what pvrpose
That's so tiny.
Will it transmit radio waves back?
>>70745402
yep we do when we're suddenly under attack by giant spacecrafts because their queen took our small probe un the ass in public at near ligthspeed
>>70743105
>Milner
>Zuckerberg
>>70745724
I gave it a second of thought... it can't even transmit anything because the signal would get 100% lost in background radiation.
So this is completely useless?
>>70745696
SPEED WILL KEEP BUILDING Up
not accelaration
>>70745786
Wanted to post this.
>>70745606
This.
Down with Alien Council! FIRST CONTACT WAR NOW!
>>70745850
implying it won't be living billion nanogram probs behind it as it travels
>>70745667
shut up leaf.
yea right the universe is jus suuuper boring and nothing in it that should be explored
>>70744131
3000 pounds of plutonium for nuclear propulsion
they keep talking about sending pictures back but does anyone actually believe a one gram probe could send a radio single 4 light years?
>>70743105
>rt.com
>>70745953
Who /xeno/ here
>>70745768
It's not completely useless then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7VPHGjT8A4
>>70744940
>If it's that small how do we know it won't veer far off course because of something's gravitational pull?
The less mass the less gravitational effect. Also gravitational pull drops of with the inverse square of distance (see below). You would need to be really close to something pretty big to 'veer off course'. Besides that who cares? it will never be able to transmit shit back, unless hawking has some Stargate SG-1 subspace beacon shit going for him
F = GMm/R^2
F is the force of attraction between two objects in newtons (N)
G is the Universal Gravitational Constant = 6.674*10−11 N-m2/kg2
M and m are the masses of the two objects in kilograms (kg)
R is the separation in meters (m) between the objects, as measured from their centers of mass
>>70746238
> potatoes
>100 niggawatts of laser power pushing a spaceship to Alpha Centauri instead of being used to wipe each other out
Fuck your brown people. Starfleet will be America+Russia.
>>70745667
Lowest Tier Bait.
Nevermind, its a fucking leaf. Of course you don't care about space.
>>70746366
fucking love stargate
continuum was shit though
>>70744131
Some Russian with a laser pen is going to scam Mark Cuckerberg out of tons of cash.
"Are the Russians becoming the new Nigerians? "Herr durr, I can send a microscopic piece of sand to light years away, Give me monies"
Ayy LMAO response when?
>>70746238
http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/breakthrough-starshot-announces-plans-to-send-ship-to-alpha-centauri/
>>70743105
fuuuug
>two kikes involved
what does this mean?
>>70746650
>its a fucking leaf. Of course you don't care about space.
>what is the Canadarm
>who is Chris Hadfield
Canada doesn't have its own space program because they've been NASAbros for decades. You shut your whore mouth.
>>70746650
Because shooting a one-gram object that's never going to come back with information and unable to transmit information is "exploring the space".
Ok retard.
>>70746834
That kikes are the master race that drive humanity forward.
>>70746872
>unable to transmit information
wrong
>>70745402
I think so. Information on wall building.
>>70746872
You just quantum entangle it with a ship that stays here, leaf.
>>70746503
>because it's exactly the same as something like a free electron laser
All these butthurt brain damaged leaves who know virtually nothing about space travel... No wonder your country has contributed nothing of value to the scientific community...
>>70746872
>shooting a one-gram object that's never going to come back with information and unable to transmit information is "exploring the space"
No you fucking nigger, it's the exercise of accelerating something to 20% c that is important, it's a proof of concept exercise. They are also spending their own cash, so don't worry it won't cut into your welfare cheque of keep your 20 family members out of the county
>>70746834
It means nothing you fucking retard.
>>70746248
heh, DOG
>>70747318
Relax, mon.
>>70743105
What does this have to do with politics?
>>70747386
Alright bredren.
>>70747415
Jews are involved.
>>70747415
>does this have to do with politics?
We need to make it clear that no nigger or mudslime will ever leave this solar system. Also this>>70747514
>>70743105
>will be able to see closeup photos of alpha centauri within my lifetime
>>70744465
Alpha Centaurii is the closest other Star System to our own. That means if you hit a planet on the way you were either dumb and hit a planet from our system, or you arrived in orbit of Alpha Centaurii.
>>70747415
It involves international cooperation between the US and Russia in space, which is always good news. The more we work together in space, the less likely it is that some fucktard back home is going to start a war between us.
>>70747211
>No you fucking nigger, it's the exercise of accelerating something to 20% c that is important,
>Hurray! We just proved we could accelerate a meaninglessly small object to really high speed!
Who the fuck cares?
It's goddamn worthless, the 100 million dollar equivalent of throwing a bottle into the ocean. The fucking arrogance of these people calling this piece of shit a "spacecraft" is astounding. Literally just a bunch of nerds engaging in a SciFi wish fulfilment LARP.
Spacefags are fucking cancer.
>>70746948
except the only scientist in this is an atheist anglo, those two kikes are just financing this whole thing
what are they gaining from it? it can't be good if kikes from the us and russia are teaming up
Imagine how terrifyingly powerful Zuckerberg is going to be by the time he's 80. He's going to be Soros x100. Nation-wrecker extraordinaire.
>>70745606
>>70745953
>>70746248
BUILD GALACTIC WALL
>>70745696
>there is no friction in space
>he thinks interstellar space is a complete vacuum
thanks for telling me straight out that I should take Croatian opinions seriously
>>70747636
calm down, reddit
>>70747759
It's got onboard sensors, cameras, and communications gear, you fucking mongoloid. The only problem is that the signal will take 20 years to get back.
>>70743105
I can't load rt from work... anyway, so many questions.
- for what purpose would we do it?
- shouldn't hawking be working on figuring how stay immortal instead?
- what kind of payload can we fit onto that tiny craft..
- can we get any data back from alpha centauri? I assume it's a one way trip, since it's being pushed there by laser..
-how do we maintain aim into a tiny craft weighting a gram, for many years, while its halfway to other solar system...
- if it reaches there and just flies by at near light speed, again, what's the point..
Tldr.. wut?
>>70743105
This is fucking retarded.
>>70745566
>Magyar education
>>70747691 >>70744465
they mentioned that.
they can steer it
>our government created and tested a plasma weapon back in the 90's and then classified the fuck out of the project after the tests were successful
>mfw they've been saving it for the first contact war
>>70747930
>The only problem is that the signal will take 20 years to get back.
No. It will take 4.37 years to get back. The probe travels at near-lightspeed, but the signal, being light, actually travels at actual lightspeed.
>>70743105
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is "Near-Light Speed" Real Hahahaha Nigga That's Like "Near-Infinite Energy" Like Nigga Close The Form Of Your Equation Haha
>>70747960
Your country and Government are retarded. No wonder you think this retarded.
Fucking stupid god damn idiot son of pussy fuck bitch nigger slum on my cock refugee the fuck rape nigger.
>>70747636
If you and I live to be 80 we may be able to live on Mars.
>>70747759
why do you care so much abou Cuckerbergs money?
>>70746834
They're sending messages back to their overlords.
>>70747904
There's next to no friction in space to the point that a 4 light year journey would experience negligible matter. You're just being a contrarian asshole.
>>70743105
Hawkings gonna be in that capsule?
>>70748257
listen nigger when you're travelling 60 million kilometres a second the difference between "no friction" and "next to no friction" is substantial.
>>70747943
>- for what purpose would we do it?
Because if we don't keep pushing the boundaries of space science until we have a sustainable backup population out of system, humanity is doomed the instant something bad happens to Earth or the Sun. This is a good step towards that goal.
>- shouldn't hawking be working on figuring how stay immortal instead?
Being remembered as one of the geniuses that gave us in-system pictures of Alpha Fucking Centauri is the next best thing to immortality.
>- what kind of payload can we fit onto that tiny craft..
Cameras, sensors, etc. It's not gonna be Hubble quality, but we're planning on shooting a fuckload of them so if they send us data on relative positioning we could stitch together some nice pictures
>- can we get any data back from alpha centauri? I assume it's a one way trip, since it's being pushed there by laser..
Yes, they have comms gear onboard. Solar powered.
>-how do we maintain aim into a tiny craft weighting a gram, for many years, while its halfway to other solar system...
It's going to be a big fuckload of them attached to a solar sail. There's no drag or crosswinds in space and it takes a lot of fucking energy to move something off course at 0.2c.
>- if it reaches there and just flies by at near light speed, again, what's the point..
All you need are enough thrusters to turn it around to face away from the new stars and a timer set for when it gets close enough. The solar sail becomes a solar drag chute.
>>70746834
>russian intellectuals
>>70747865
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CfA2_Great_Wall
>The CfA2 Great Wall has the maximum dimensions of either 500 million or 750 million light years; depending upon the figure and the reference used. It is 200 million light years in width and about 16 million light years in thickness.
>>70747930
>onboard sensors and cameras
Just what kind of images exactly do you expect to get from what is essentially a cellphone camera hurtling through space at 20% of this speed of light taking pictures at random of fucking nothing and then sending it back to earth in a highly compressed format?
>it carries a small message
>due to it being so small, they could only fit 7 characters on the craft
>the message reads
>"ayy lmao"
>>70743105
>weighing only a gram
So it's 15 grams?
Lol
Wont the lasers destroy it?
Also it is to ride that push for 20 years?
What about obstacles
>>70746834
Doesnt matter he went to Wharton, best university is best.
>>70748226
I don't. I just care about the Cucks sucking his dick over what's clearly a white elephant publicity stunt.
>>70746834
they explored all the possibilities of jewing out money from the Earth goyim and now they plan to explore the space to jew out the goods from aliens
>>70745606
Screw that I'm gonna be the first man to get me some prime alien pussy
>>70745667
fucking leaf etc etc
>mfw hit a planet in AC and they see it like a declaration of war.
>>70747943
>for what purpose would we do it?
Because we can
>shouldn't hawking be working on figuring how stay immortal instead?
He probably already is desu
>what kind of payload can we fit onto that tiny craft..
Sensors, small camera, transmitter
>can we get any data back from alpha centauri? I assume it's a one way trip, since it's being pushed there by laser..
See above
>how do we maintain aim into a tiny craft weighting a gram, for many years, while its halfway to other solar system...
We wouldn't be accelerating it the whole way there, probably only until it leaves the solar system
>if it reaches there and just flies by at near light speed, again, what's the point..
It would probably be in the system for a couple of weeks, plenty of time
>>70748594
>HURR WHAT IS SLOWING DOWN
It's not going to be deploying and taking pictures at 0.2c, fucktard. That would doppler shift the hell out of everything and make it impossible to get good data back. You can get some really fucking nice pictures with a cell phone camera with pure vacuum between lens and target. If it's anything like New Horizons pictures it'll be sent back raw, not compressed.
>>70748436
And it all can be fit into one gramm?
The sail, comm gear, camera.. I guess there are some bold assumptions are made into this project, like the projections of technology well develop over next 20 years.
>>70746366
If they're going relativistically then you have to account for mass dilation too
Also
>the craft won't be obliterated in the Kuiper belt or the heliopause
>gravitational deceleration won't destroy the electronics with bremsstrahalung if they use any metal in the craft
A dumb idea through and through. Any interstellar spacecraft needs to be large and robust
>>70747759
kill yourself you fucking faggot
>>70748633
Ayyy
>>70748965
READ THE ARTICLE, SHITCOCK
MULTIPLE 1g CRAFT, ONE BIG SOLAR SAIL
>>70747904
isnt it though? enough so that trying to control for it is pointless
>>70748910
You can't slow down. That's kind of the problem.
>>70748910
>slowing down
Clearly you haven't put much thought into this.
>>70749136
It's a solar sail aimed at another star system. All you have to do is rotate the sail to face away from the oncoming star and solar wind will make it act as a drag chute.
>>70748633
kek
>>70748973
>If they're going relativistically then you have to account for mass dilation too
At 0.2 c relativistic effects on mass are negligible
>>70743105
How the fuck they gonna slow it down from near light speed.
Checkmate
>>70748980
Cry moar bitch nigga
>>70749285
Read the article.
>using a solar sail for the laser to push against
>aimed at a star with its own solar wind
>an article about how we might be able to reach our nearest star and receive a steady stream of information within our lifetimes
>/pol/ shits on it
nofunallowed.jpg
>20 years
We will probably all be dead by then
>>70749230
Deceleration of electrons in metals at relativisticy speeds=shit ton of radiation that will fry onboard electronics
That's like, quantum physics 101. For their sakes I hope nanophotonics and graphene circuits become a thing before they start building
>>70747759
Yeah you should have been flushed down the fucking loo, you worthless mistake.
>>70743105
>Mark Zuckerburg
What does the creator of kikebook have to offer to this equation?
I assume the Russian guy has funds, Hawkings has calculations, Zuckerburg has... even more money?
>>70745566
you are emptier than space, dumb nigger
>>70749463
>Deceleration of electrons in metals at relativisticy speeds=shit ton of radiation that will fry onboard electronics
Yeah, except 0.2c is not a velocity at which relativity would come into play
>>70749281
Read the rest of my post, mass dilation is the least of their worries. The heliopause is denaw enough to maintain a pressure gradient against interstellar particle fluence. More than enough matter in there to shred one gram spacecraft
>>70745094
Photons contain energy.
When photons bounce off of an object, and are reflected, they physically push the object they bounce off of (but this is minuscule, considering how small the photons are).
Photon propulsion will push the small craft very quickly.
>literally nothing at all where they're trying to flick this booger
No purpose in this
Theyre fucking absolutely insane
>>70745786
Just Jews furthering technology and the Human race whilst you /pol/beards bitch on a cartoon forum
>>70749654
Uh, yeah it is. 0.1 c is enough to need to make the switch to doing quantum with the dirac equation, do you even field theory bro?
>>70749493
I love how angry spacefags get when people shit on their unrealistic dreams of becoming space hobos.
Humanity will never leave the solar system and you will die on earth. How does that make you feel?
>>70749494
he's gonna give aliens kikebook to data mine and study them while at the same time dwindling their IQ. the Jews are done molding the humans as their puppets and are expanding their horizons
>>70749789
they will find whatever they want to find
they are in control of what the world thinks is real
The moon landing hoaxers make anyone wanting to discuss physics seem like a ''conspiracy theorist'' and we are all crazy.
Of course hawking can do this, he can't fucking walk though, but he can flick booger ships at stars and sheeit.
if they build enough of them, these probes can actually become a space station. Connect them all in LEO, then boom, you get a space station built from hundreds of thousands of probes. This is a good start.
>>70748478
dubs this is now the intergalactic trump wall and trump will be president
>meanwhile on the alien scoutship orbiting our planet documenting what we're doing in between fapping to alien porn on what might just be the most boring assignment in the universe
20 years to make, 20 years to reach there, 4.37 years to send information back. That's a long time.
>>70745603
>he doesn't want to kill alien invaders
So it's possible to control a robot 25 trillion miles away?
That's mind blowing, I don't know shit how it transmits data to the robot and back, how do they do it?
>>70750126
Do you think they're hot?
It's my dream to fuck a hot alien
>>70749654
Same physics fag here. I should also mention bremsstralung depends only on the acceleration, not the speed. Decelerate too fast and you'll have problems
>>70745667
We whites do not want to be around non whites anymore.
>>70750165
All that's needed is a working and promising prototype. After that, that's all we'll be talking about.
>>70750196
They're aliens. Of course they're hot.
>>70750036
>conspiritards knowing anything about physics
Out of curiosity, do you have anything more than a high school diploma?
>>70746834
They want to establish the first alternative star system as New Jerusalem.
>>70750189
Too bad theres absolutely nothing to do there
>>70750165
Fuck.. I'll probably be dead by the time we get ayy lmaos photos... :(
>>70748643
Its not made of diamonds famalan
>>70743105
>Hawking, Milner & Zuckerberg
sounds like the lords of bullshit have come together to give the world the brand new space vaporware
Why are two of the most wealthiest businessman involved when it comes to making a microscopic camera? Particle engineering shouldn't be too expensive
>>70750196
you tell me
>>70750804
Sounds like a law firm.
>>70750480
>nothing to do
>>70750227
>Same physics fag here. I should also mention..
Chm Eng fag here, the shit is slowly coming back to me. I haven't touched this stuff since uni (over 10 yrs ago) my work is comparatively boring.
>>70744131
Did someone send this Canadian's leaf to another star system at light speed?
>>70750900
Not those aliens we have enough of them in California, and they're mostly ugly too
>>70744465
Niggas legit think Space is so small that things would be THAT close to each other and compact. Cmon B!
>>70745094
light has mass
>>70749906
>How does that make you feel?
Pity for your lack of vision
>>70751334
>light has mass
No, but photon can transfer momentum. Look up photon-electron interaction
>>70743105
>zuckerberg
>YFW the ultra-Jew will have claim over whatever that little bullet hits
>YFW it'll probably smash into the only life-supporting planet within eons.
>>70750992
Good to see more STEM fags on here. They call us meme majors and then you have threads like this and see how scientifically illiterate the average /pol/lack is.
What do you do these days? I'm currently going for my PhD
>>70750189
Sure it's possible. Your commands arrive with only 4.37 years delay!
>>70745094
they mentioned that maximum speed would be 1/5th that of light
>>70752204
>What do you do these days?
Fluidized-bed reactor design, mostly refining numerical sims, but we all know how shit numerical solutions can get. Every once in awhile we get to build a table-top piece of equipment.
>going for my PhD
Ms here, one day I could go back for the PhD, but in today's SJW climate I'd last about 5 seconds, I just can't keep my mouth shut.
itt: amerifats that think they're smarter than a brain on a wheelchair
>>70744131
1. An object can approach light speed, it can never reach it but it can get infinitely close to it.
2. It'll be a sail driven craft propelled by a laser.
Seriously this is easy as fuck, it's just a case of getting the world to be okay with an orbital laser.
On the other hand I can't wait to see Mecca get lased.
>>70748973
Also, even assuming they are able to focus that much energy on the sail in the span of a couple of minutes, it's hard to imagine how they wouldn't vaporize it in the process
>>70747904
10,000 or so atoms per square kilometre is pretty empty you dirty wee potato nigger.
>>70745890
Dude, every time the speed changes, there's acceleration, negative or positive.
>>70750982
I will never not laugh at this picture.
For what purpose?
If it weighs a gram then it's not going to be able to send any info back from there. No pictures. No confirmation it arrived.
Huge waste of money
>>70745606
>20 years to develop craft
>20 years to get there (which ends up being nowhere near light speed. if it were going near lightspeed, it would get there in 5 or 6 years, not 20)
>superior alien response/destruction of earth 5 years after that.
so we're looking at the possible destruction of Earth by ayyyys around 2061
>>70748973
>Heliopause
>Kuiper Belt
>impede a laser propelled object that is probably the size of a credit card
I mean are you people trying to be stupid or what? The Kupier belt isn't a solid sheet of rock mate, you can pass through it, more importantly IT IS ON THE PLANE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM! You can go above or below it and just miss it out entirely.
Did they say when they plan to send this, or is it just bullshit?
>>70743105
How do we get information back from this thing in a reasonable time? Entangled quantum doodads?
>>70753231
>The Kupier belt
what this guy said.
its a kuiper belt, not a kuiper sphere.
>>70752983
>assuming they are able to focus that much energy on the sail in the span of a couple of minutes, it's hard to imagine how they wouldn't vaporize it in the process
You use a dispersed not focused beam, same energy transfer, but over a larger area, so no one spot gets to melting/vaporization point. A superconducting sail would be handy here, but we haven't hit that tech level yet
>>70753377
it weighs a gram
it will have ZERO instrumentation.
>really fucking gay idea that if it succeeds it will destroy earth.
>>70743105
Gods DAMN it. No. This is not a good fucking idea. There is a great whopping filter out there, and we don't know what the trigger might be. We need to turtle the FUCK up, and get our asses in gear for potential existential threats in the form of actively malevolent Von Neumann machines or relativistic kinetic energy weapons.
What the FUCK is wrong with all these fuckers believing any race capable of interstellar travel is necessarily peaceful, benevolent, or predisposed to not wiping our race from the universe before we can become a threat to them.
Any race that develops technology will have evolved from a predator species. No other way for them to get the levels of protein necessary to support higher brain function.
Even if they were peaceful, they could insist on uplifting us beyond just gifting us knowledge. They could decide we needed to be remade in their image, to better serve them, or just because they want to see us "advance" quickly into what they see as cultural superiority.
I'm not even VIGILO CONFIDO or PRAISE THE EMPEROR meme-ing, here. I seriously question what the fuck these idiots ignorant of game theory or xenopsychology think they're doing. How is this in any way a good fucking idea?
>>70753377
It's only 4.7 light years away, it could beam a constant readout from launch and you'd only need to wait 5 years to receive information from it once it arrived.
Really we've waited longer for probes to slingshot themselves around planets to enter orbit.
>>70753231
How about Oort cloud?
>>70752983
That's easy.
1. They can do that, it's fairly simple, you spot the object, track the object and shoot the laser at said object the same way we do with missiles except it's going to be even easier because you don't have an atmosphere to deal with and you can calculate where the probe will be at any point in time.
2. You use a material that can withstand the laser.
Seriously every problem is this thread can be solved by not being retarded, it's not like they're gonna make the sail out of fucking butter or something, these are folk that know what they're doing.
>>70753231
>Hi I'm a faggot that doesn't understand that at relativistic speeds a grain of sand becomes a fucking tank round
What if we find space orks and they are all ugly and unfuckable?
>>70753654
this guy has it.
i think it's likely kikes like zuckerberg and that retarded hawking faggot just want to see humanity get destroyed. they are human hating leftists, afterall.
>>70753307
so it's just bullshit then
>>70753656
Doesn't sound too unreasonable actually. Will be exciting to learn about a new solar system.
>obligatory
>>70753894
>What if we find space orks and they are all ugly and unfuckable?
People still fuck niggers and turks, I'm sure the orcs would have their takers
>>70753654
>We need to turtle the FUCK up
We need first contact to scare public enough to fund turtling up though.
>1 gram
What are we gonna send, a nanobot swarm?
>>70753231
Also I'm actually a plasma physicist, and I guarantee you I know more about the heliopause than you. It's enough matter that it could actually reverse the direction of a Bussard ramjet thanks to drag, and you don't think it would scramble the shit out of a delicate piece of electronics that has fuck all momentum?
>>70753692
Holy shit, even less of a problem, I mean you do understand the sheer scale of the Oort cloud right?
It's so fucking vast we never have and more than likely never will directly image it, the distances between the comets are so enormous that if you could stand on one, the nearest object might be a faint glimmer so far away you could scarcely tell the difference between it and a star.
Seriously it's a non problem.
>>70754064
Has to be something small/massless.
We should send your penis, it's roughly the size of a photon.
>>70753654
Lay off sci-fi horrors for a bit, will you. The possibility of discovering aliens, any aliens, including primitive bacteria, is smaller than your brain.
>>70754227
th-that was uncalled for anon
>>70754151
what if the craft is already going, say, 10% of lightspeed by the time it hits the heliopause?
>>70754064
>What are we gonna send, a nanobot swarm?
>polute galaxic neighbourhoods with potentially habitat destroying replicators
>aliens show up with space police
>HUMANITY DINDU NUFFIN
>>70753849
No, right, I get you have a bizarrely ingrained sense of superiority so you have a hard time admitting you were wrong so I'll make this as clear as possible for you.
It will absolutely not hit anything, straight up, I'm well aware of the energy it will carry but it's not a problem because it's not going to hit anything in the first place.
>>70754064
>Build a swarm of nanocraft for 20 years
>Pre programmed to assemble like puzzle pieces
>???
>profit
>>70754279
I firmly believe that our entire local group was seeded with the same life that seeded Earth.
And I'm a fairly devout Catholic.
>>70753914
Hawking actually said that we should totally avoid dealing with aliens if we ever come across them because he shares the same belief in this regard.
So basically Hawking doesn't think we'll find shit.
>>70753654
An inherently aggressive species would probably obliterate themselves before they got to the galaxy police stage.
Like we will.
>>70744131
For one gram traveling at 0.9c, you are talking about a kenetic energy equivalent to that an atomic bomb. Somewhere around 28 kilotons.
>>70754291
Sorry anon.
>>70754213
We actually have only a vague idea about the composition of outer layers of Solar system, so I wouldn't be so sure.
>>70754373
So my dreams of lego spaceships...were true
>crashes into another planet at near light speed
>we end an entire ayyy lmao planet by accident
>>70754529
if it takes 20 years to get there it won't be going anywhere near 90% of lightspeed.
>>70754494
Humanity is destined to rule all the known universe. We are the apex of creation, and we'll exterminate anything that says otherwise.
>>70743105
>1 gram robot
sounds doubtful.
its probably a small rock
>>70754580
>deemed as heroes by Zeplon5 for ending the galactic war
>>70754529
>>70754623
Proposed speed is 0.2c.
>>70754679
You do know special services have nano drones that can assassinate targets by stinging them with a drop of lethal poison.
A nano craft isn't beyond the realm of capability.
>>70754669
>We are the inheritors of the Mantle
FTFY
>>70754053
"First contact" is going to take the form of a mass of some heavy element traveling at a significant enough fraction of c to shatter our fucking planet.
>>70753914
I'm a leftist, buddy. Moreover, a socialist anti-statist. But I can recognize that what I think would be morally best and what is practical are different. While I'd like to dissolve all state borders and live in hippie harmony, I know that is a terrible fucking idea because some cultures are better than others. As >>70754472 says, I don't think Hawking believes anything will come of this, and I agree - but I think it's stupid as HELL to take the risk.
Who knows, maybe something traveling/accelerating quickly enough is what would put us on the shit list of the galaxy.
>>70754433
And where did that life come from? Just save yourself a massive assumption, and start with life arising independently on Earth.
>>70754669
We're not destined for anything. We make our futures, and if you want something to happen, you need to make it happen.
>>70754775
any sauce for that ?
you know, it really is odd that we haven't just gotten a bunch of rich fucks interested in making a generation ship and fly maybe 100-200 people to alpha centauri.
if i were a billionaire, i would do this. they've had plans for a workable design since the 70s. the nuclear bomb drive thing.
it's almost as if we've been warned not to do this...
>>70754309
You still have a problem with waves in plasma. Plasma likes to damp out wave energy, so unless you're sending waves with enough energy to penetrate the plasma and avoid damping processes you're not even getting any radio waves signals through. Some radio astronomers think that this is the reason that we aren't receiving alien radio signalsl.
>>70754371
>he thinks the average mass density of vacuum means sections of space are completely empty
All it takes is one unknown dust cloud
Also you are right, alpha centauri has an inclination off the plane of the ecliptic, doesn't mean there isn't a matter cloud. There's still the Oort cloud.
Why are you defending the delusional Jew anyway?
>>70754916
>And where did that life come from?
that's irrelevant. the universe is plenty old enough to support my idea.
>>70754872
Why is Mal wearing power armor?
>>70744465
>it hits a planet
>levels an entire continent due to the speed at which it's going
>aliens in there think it's a declaration of war and nuke us out of existence
THIS IS THE END
>>70754958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cJv4O2zEOw
Or you could just google "Insect Drones".
This shit was theorised when I was in school back in 2000.
>>70754623
I hadn't crunched that yet. It would be going .43c. Still, that's a fuckload of energy. If I didn't hit a wrong button by accident, that's still a couple of kilotons, and laser propulsion is not going to be 100% efficient.
>>70755176
Edward Buck is wearing MJOLNIR Gen2 because he is a SPARTAN IV.
>>70743105
Go through, my children! The time of miracles is upon us. Let us cast off sin and walk together to the Garden of the Lord. With God's mercy we shall meet again on the other side.
>>70746834
Not really surprising considering how many brilliant scientists and engineers come from jewish backgrounds.
>tfw you will never be a kike
>>70754679
a small sail
>>70755300
That's Malcolm Reynolds if I ever saw him.
>>70743105
I can't wait for the massive disappointment in 20 years time.
this sounds like a load of shit.
We can barely dock to the ISS and so the idea that we can travel even 1/10 of the speed of light is questionable. Anyone have more info on this?
>>70743105
>A GRAM
>A SINGLE GRAM
AHHAHAHAHAH
>>70755403
It's Edward Buck. Sorry bro.
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Edward_Buck
>>70755432
they won't even know how well it worked, I don't see how they'll keep track of it past a found hundreds of thousands of kilometers, and after that they might not even know if they're even aiming their lasers right
>>70755571
*a few
>>70755455
The proposed idea is that we'd have a really fucking tiny probe, which is accelerated through space incrementally by firing a 100GW laser at it from earth periodically.
>>70743105
How does it slow down?
>>70755571
>Poland talking about space
>>70753094
You and I both.
>>70755654
It doesn't.
>>70755432
>>70755455
They were on about creating an artificial timeline curve to shine a laser beam of binary data down it or something.
Utilizing negative energy using this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
>>70755279
thats sole /x/ tier crap right there.
>>70755542
Oh. Shitty Halo.
Hello Earthlings.
Deirdre Skye of the Gaians here, wondering when that gram of weed you promised us is going to arrive?
Peace and Xenoempathy to you all.
>>70755654
There are no brakes.
>>70755654
It won't.
>yfw ayy lmaos shoot back
*star trek intensifies*
>>70748457
>amerinigger intellectuals
http://fortune.com/2015/03/10/american-millennials-are-among-the-worlds-least-skilled/
>>70743105
>Russian businessman
This is why I will hate Onigger more than Wilson for all eternity
America should be doing this and so much more wig space but our cuck government would rather destroy us than see massive technical and scientific discovery
and so , we entered the age of strife
>>70753894
i'd pork a space ork
>>70755269
Aliens recieve message from Earth 5 years later.
>it was just a prank bro!
>>70755716
It's really not, we already have small drones that the British military uses in surveillance operations, the size of toy helicopters.
Just like mobile phones and disk storage, they become smaller, faster and more efficient over time.
If they've figured out how to actually make chains out of graphene which again was also taught to us in fucking primary school then they should be good. They most likely already have them, they're just not out there yet in the public because you know, secret services like to keep things secret!
But you're a Muslim, Muslims reject science so yeah.
>>70743105
>1 g nanobots
>"capture images of possible planets and other scientific data and send it back home in a beam of light"
It's bullshit anyway. You have things like radiation and magnetism, both extremely strong in outside of our solar system.
>>70750036
If you wanted, you could use the scientific theory to recreate the conditions of what they did and see if it was possible. Anyone could. Thats the point of science--you dont have to believe it, you can build your own rocket and see
HOW MANY PROBED ANUSES DOES IT TAKE TO DEVELOP A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF TERRESTRIAL LIFE?
>>70755536
launching even a gram at light speed is already amazing to do , we start little then we will be able to send ships
I DON'T KNOW BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD!
DEIRDRE'S GOT A NETWORK NODE!
LIKE'S TO PRESS THE ON-OFF SWITCH!
DIG THAT CRAZY GAIAN WITCH!
How does Stephen Hawking shit? Does he have a designated shitting assistant? Does he even shit at all? What does he eat?
>>70756031
>>70755725
Fucking Data Angels, messing with my comm's.
>>70756046
He shits into a black hole
>>70755956
>Doesn't realise you can use light to transmit messages
>Doesn't realise there is more than one wavelength of light
And this is why Eastern Europe should pointed at, laughed at and discarded.
god damn space travel sucks dicks.
everything is so far far far away like some one made sure there's no way to find new species
>>70755689
Then how can it gather information? Wouldn't any light/radio signals be distorted at such high speeds? Or is it not meant to gather data at all?
>>70755659
tak, been there done that
>>70755083
Let's count the assumptions:
"Life Arose"+"On Earth"
vs
"Life Arose"+"Somewhere Else"+"Life Became Sapient"+"That Sapience Became Technologically Advanced"+"They Seeded Life On Earth"+"They Hid Evidence of Themselves From Us"
>>70755873
>The Age of Strife, also sometimes referred to as Old Night, is the name for the chaotic and highly fragmented period of human history between the 25th and 30th Millenniums AD.
Not yet, my Emperor. Go back to sleep.
>>70756046
Probably gets a tube shoved down his throat and has the food shoved in like that.
>>70756046
He has a shit eating robot
>>70754151
Well I'd imagine if something can survive the general radiation it's exposed to on the way it's not really going to be a problem, especially since it might make it to a significant fraction of light speed before the heliopause.
Plus they plan on launching a few thousand of these things apparently so I guess we'll have plenty of chances to find out who's right.
>>70753209
>so we're looking at the possible destruction of Earth by ayyyys around 2061
well according to star trek first contact the Vulcans are supposed to bump into us in 2063
>>70755654
when it hits something it will slow down
by which I mean explode
>>70756152
Show me camera that's able to do these things and weights 1 gram.
>>70756000
who would have thought the key to understanding man's role here in the universe, to life itself, is found in the butthole.
>>70756226
NG tubes are shoved through the nose.
He most likely has a colostomy bag and a catheter attached to him which gets changed by a nurse/carer. I don't think he has many problems eating.
>>70756204
>responding to Ivan
>with technically Ivan pilot
kek, oh the fucking irony kurwa
>>70756260
>flash light in binary
>similar to morse code
>wouldnt be that hard
The difficulty would be in decoding it on earth, but that would be the work of teams of specialists
>>70750059
rawling
>>70743105
whats the point? a 1g sized nano-craft wont be able to send us any information
sounds like attention whoring especially when some popsci who has never accomplished anything of value like Hawking is involved
Daily reminder that Hitler was the first man to be heard in space and is already praised as a hero of all the different galaxies.
>implying they won't just hit the dome
>implying they don't already know that
>Alpha Centauri is 5 light years away
>Half the speed of light should take 10 years
>Near speed of light takes 20
Explain to my retarded ass what am I missing here.
>>70756396
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT POLISH SPACE PROGRAM
>>70756260
You don't use a camera you fucktard, you shine a beam of light with encapsulated data within it.
Infrared etc. This one gram thing I don't even know, it's supposed to be a nano drone, so it needs propulsion, good thing about space, is that things don't slow down unless they collide/impact.
>>70747904
>he thinks interstellar space is a complete vacuum
Yeah man, that one atom per square centimeter between stars is pretty crowded.
>>70748714
>obstacles
What then fuck are they teaching in schools? Despite what you may believe, space isn't like what you see in anime, obstacles are very far between them--that's why they call it "space". We can see everything of note for many, many light years. Maneuvers are planned months to years before a launch and coordinated to the closest meter and hundredth of a m/s.
>>70748965
>what is moore's law
>>70750189
>what are preprogrammed instructions
>>70754679
Just because your shit country doesn't have the technology doesn't mean others do. Your phone doesn't weigh that much, and that's only current consumer-level technilogy. Just imagine what the government has now, nonetheless in 20 years.
>>70756480
>space abraham lincoln intensifies
>>70756462
Why wouldnt it be able to send any info?
>it turns into an ungodly bomb at those speeds
>hits an alien homeworld
>yfw humanity pisses off a huge fleet of ayy lmaos
>>70756204
>get carried to space by Ivan
WE WUZ COZMONAUTS & SHIIEEET NIGGUH.
>>70756491
0.25c = "near"
0.001c = not so near
>>70743105
im so fucking happy right now
this is all i have ever wanted
fuck politics, fuck race, fuck everything
all resources should be invested into space travel. everyone should shut the fuck up and work towards the advancement of science
>>70756491
0.2 c is apparently near enough
>>70755382
I have a jew acquaintance who's entire family is doctors, lawyers, and hedge fund managers
>>70756397
Also distance, you would lose some of the binary data being transferred, or there would be a delay/interference due to solar radiation etc.
>implying it wont just get sucked up and eaten by a space whale
If Hawking is so damn smart why is he STILL in a fuckin wheelchair?
>>70756491
1/4 the speed of light for a spaecraft is fucking amazing. Also youre missing how long it takes to speed up
>>70743105
alpha centauri is traveling through space just as our solar system is. we past the best point in time to try this a couple of years ago
the distance to alpha centauri is growing every day now. it was getting closer for decades (probably millenniums)
Yuri Milner, Jew?
>>70756582
because its only 1g
we cant even see planets in nearby solar systems and look how bright planets are
try to create a stronger signal with a 1g sized "craft"
>>70756560
>What then fuck are they teaching in schools? Despite what you may believe, space isn't like what you see in anime, obstacles are very far between them--that's why they call it "space"
What are asteroids?
>>70756612
Where's your Finnish astronauts?
>Americans also get carried to space by Ivan
>Poland is on the same level as America
WE WUZ NAZA N SHIET MOOFOOGA
>>70743105
>mark zuckerberg
what the fuck is this shit.What we gonna put a hotspot for fb in the middle of the universe.
>>70756795
Reflecting and modulating the laser that powers it.
>>70756795
Use light as the medium nigga
>>70756754
I figure it's gonna have to speed up quickly because the thrust will decrease quickly as the thing gets really far from the Earth
It's not from 1 light-year away that you're gonna really propel a 1-gram sail with lasers from Earth
>>70756798
That's like worrying if you are going to crash into Mars on your daily commute to work by car.
>>70756260
Have you seriously never heard of fibre optic communications? You know, using light to transmit data?
Have you also heard of lasers?
Well guess what you filthy Chezchen slag you can combine the two and transmit data encoded in a laser beam.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/128207-1gbps-wireless-network-made-with-red-and-green-laser-pointers
>>70756865
>>70756865
Zuckerberg has been trying to be a philanthropist.
>>70756891
>>70756885
These.
>>70756007
That's not the hilarious part, is that it's a ONE GRAM PROBE!
>>70756616
>>70756640
>>70756754
So it is just PR speech?
And I understand accelerating is hard but this got presented like the
>HYPEST SHIT
when it really was just
>Pretty hype but only for science nerds kind of hype
Reminds me of an awesome short story by Geoffrey Landis.
http://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/the-long-chase/
>fire a small lump of metal at another star system
we're about to unwittingly declare our first solar war.
I love it.
>>70756885
>>70756891
>>70756958
you clearly dont know shit about EM so why do you even talk about this
>>70748633
blank space is a character.
>>70748478
>>70750059
>>70756421
/pol/ was right all along.
>>70756978
It's hype because the probe is going to Alpha Centauri
>>70756948
Just don't bother with them, there's a good reason why they leech from the EU instead of contribute, now you're seeing it.
lol...
>>70756260
Seriously though sweetheart, read up on data encapsulation, binary code and light emission messages.
That should get you started on the basics.
>>70756798
>what are asteroids
Very very rare in "SPACE"
>>70757070
We clearly know more than you, MedPack.
>>70757070
Yea, sure, shit can fuck up light too. So what? Sometimes the radio in my car cuts out when I drive. I still have a radio
>>70757135
>>70757198
no
did you even read my post earlier?
>we cant even see planets in nearby solar systems and look how bright planets are
read this you idiots
>>70743105
What is the point? At one gram, it's not able to do anything, or send any information back. We're not even going to be able to know if it reaches its destination.
Humans are the inheritors of the universe and are, by far, the most advanced beings so far.
What are you guys afraid of? We're the best.
In 3000 years we'll be able to shrink ourselves to the point where we can move wherever we want in the universe and need very little resources to live. Just like the other aliens
>>70757292
at least norway seems to be educated
>>70745094
wait what they are using just some powerful laser pointer to get it 4.3 lightyears away what
It can't take pictures? Literally what the fuck in the point?
>>70757357
> Humans are best
> Forgets about Cthulhu, Yog-Sothoth and Azathoth
Get rekt m8.
>>70757278
have a big chain of nano bots close enough that theres no interference
jesus fucking christ
>>70757357
like you said "so far" who know if theres not like some space empire more Advanced then us in the middle of alpha centauri ?
>>70757278
laser is focused light, you dumb fuck, not starlight
>>70756397
>>70756558
>>70756948
>>70757104
How it will be powered?
How it will take photos and other "scientific data"? What detectors will be used?
How it will transcode these data and save them? You need computer unit for this.
How the FUCK it will be able to locate earth from Alpha Ceuntauri? We don't have interstellar navigation system.
How it will send data back? If you want to use light, you need pretty fucking advanced laser.
How it will steer? How it will stop in right distance? Or it will just fly-by through space and send images back?
What materials will be used for all of this?
Good look engineering this device. With current tech it's impossible.
>>70756952
oh.... ok ehh as long it ain't the chinese doing this i kinda don't care, do we have a live stream anyone.
>>70757373
Well, it could be useful in the way that we could observe how "big" objects behave in "near" light speed. For a really short while. I could be wrong desu.
>>70752558
If signals are faster than sending matter into near lightspeed, why don't we morph matter into signals for space travel
Are you related to the captain of the titanic or some shit? asteroids aren't the equivalents of icebergs in the early 1900s, there are literally thousands of people who track the fuckers for a living.
>>70754916
>I'm a leftist
> a socialist anti-statist.
right....
>>70746834
>Probe sent by Milner and Zuckerberg to Alpha Centauri.
>Me the local Ayy Lmao on planet Zendar find human probe.
>With my tentacle feelers i put the probe up to my auditory hole.
>"Oy vey greetings fellow sub speci- I mean aliens. I can offer earth for sale at a low low interest rate of 23% No shekels down!"
>In shock I quickly drop the probe robot and spit acid on it.
>I report to the elders and we decide to deliver the final solution to the earthlings for their greed.
>We gather into the warp portal and obliterate the earthling population in three days.
And that /pol/ is how the kikes will wipe out humanity.
>>70753914
Kikes aren't human to begin with.
>>70757411
I played Arkham Horror on the weekend and we beat Cthulhu.
We're the best.
>>70757449
Just like in Starcraft, you have to send that fucking worker unit to scout even though you don't want to.
You won't know if they are macroing up or rushing if you don't send him.
>>70757414
how is interference the problem you dipshit
and how would you create this chain of nano bots and how could they relay information
just shut up about things you cleary dont know anything about
>>70757474
light is light, photons dont magically change their fundamental behavior just because of their source
>>70757532
>I could be wrong desu
you are
>>70757619
>beating cuthulu
your dm is really bad
>>70757477
>how will it be powered
prolly solar
>information gather
idk. prolly thermometer, some other basic stuff
>transcode and send
laza
>how will it locate earth
you project it as such that it will always be pointed at earth
>steer/stop
physics. you just make a straight line and add energy at the right times
>materials
whatever they make nano bots out of kek
>>70757541
>why don't we morph matter into signals for space travel
Still need a receiver/transmutator at the other end. After we get a few out there no problem
>>70748436
you seem to know what youre speaking about, so briefly-
how does it transmit the pics back?
desu it seems both simple enough, and crazy enough to be plausible.
>>70749880
and yet, israel STILL needs taxdollars from white people
how superior
>>70756978
No you don't get it. 0.25c is near the speed of light.
If you were to crash into the sun, it would make you reach speeds never reached before yet it would still only be about 0.002c.
Depending on how you look at it 0.0001c is very fast by our standards, so compared to that 0.25c is indeed near the limit, with much stronger relativistic effects than anything we've experienced.
But yeah though that story is bullshit. If you hear Stephen Hawking's name in the news you can be pretty sure the story is nonsense, the man's a total meme scientist, his fame and being in the news has strictly nothing to do anymore with his research on black hole radiation just like le black siense man has nothing to do with research anymore either.
>>70757714
Explain then.
>>70757714
senpai, designing and developing the nano bot is the easy part
typical medi-pack. You understand physics, but not computers
>>70757739
It's a board game dude. There's a set of rules.
>>70757805
it is completely impartical
how do you observe it
and either it takes far too long for it to accelerate or you would do it in an experimental setup on earth with an accelerator
but yeah, not gonna happen with 1g sized object
>send that small drone at speed of light
>hit a planet
>kill a race that was oppresing the other race of that planet
>the other races now see humanity as gods
>>70757742
>whatever they make nano bots out of kek
We don't have nanobots.
>>70758044
What if the point is just to practice accelerating things with lazers
>>70751334
Photons have momentum but not mass.
>>70758146
sure, but how will you know how well it works?
>>70757894
this is not a question about computers and I dont understand physics well, just some basics. but thats enough to recognize dipshitting from a mile away
the problem is to make such a chain on a 5 light year long path while being able to send and receive information across its entire length
>>70757619
>>70757739
That's an old, if not ancient /tg/ meme.
>>70755060
>Some radio astronomers think that this is the reason that we aren't receiving alien radio signalsl.
This is a reason to build a multispectral heliopause telescope array.
>>70758306
Ah. Well we did actually beat him.
Why would be ever ever want to fire a small mass at extreme speeds?
The atomic bomb meant we could destroy our planet, we're basically proud that we can destroy another planet too. Holy shit and we're using AC as our test site.
If I were an advanced alien race, I'd come to earth after the atomic bomb and say "hey guys calm down", but if they went and built a fucking planet buster I'd probably ban them from space forever.
>>70758238
looks like even poland has better education than usa
>>70758146
so you admit there is no point
"practice photonic acceleration" wiith a nano particle that you shoot into space, yeah right
there is no need for practice, the physics behind it are well established
I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO STUDY THE MINUTAE OF THE BANTER, SO CAN SOME CUNT PLEASE TL;DR ME ON HOW THE FUCK THE PICTURES WILL BE TRANSMITTED BACK?
>>70757390
Sure. Mine doesn't work though
>>70758122
>send that small drone at speed of light
>hit a planet
>kill a race that was oppresed the other race of that planet
>the other races now see humanity as demons
>>70758353
Yeah, and you are still a cunt and your DM sucks.
Meme or not.
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