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holy shit.

This country is slowly but surely about to die.

According to IMF,Japan's growth rate will be -0.1% in 2016.
This country will collapse without Immigrants. I and many Japanese economists were saying this.

Jesus. Our social system is desined with assumption that country will grow at least 2.0% per year. and Japan grow nothing.

We have no choice. right?
Accept immigrant boost economy. look at Germany and Sweden, their economy is growing due to immigrant's and diversity power
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>>70741894
>Accept immigrant boost economy. look at Germany and Sweden, their economy is growing due to immigrant's and diversity power

Nice meme. According to the UN, Sweden will be a third world country in 2030, how is that growth?
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>selling out your country for a few GDP growth points

This is why cuckservatives are trash. They value money over their own country.
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>>70741894
Look, it's the same Jew with a proxy disguised as a Jap trying to embrace multiculturalism
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Simple solution:

Give money to families whose elders that choose to die early.
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>>70742027
>Nice meme. According to the UN, Sweden will be a third world country in 2030, how is that growth?

That's not true. You're probably looking at HDI predictions. Sweden won't be a third world country in 2030, but will be surpassed by several other countries, thus will have a lower ranking.
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>>70742038
my money is more important than fucking country.

who can deny this?
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>>70741894
nothing is going good in germany or swede, sweden is about to collapse and germany is on brig of civil war. If you accept refugees into japan your doing nothing good, nothing will happen except islamic riots. Let your country die slowly anyway no need for civil war, also you will lose pork and other foods, if you just buttfuck yourselves into oblivion.
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>>70742038

Agree Canadabro.

Our cuckservative party pushes this shit all the time.
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>>70741894
It's a good things, estates's gonna cost less.
And you'll have bigger flat.
Aren't japanese well know by have those midget cars and the tiniest home of the world ?
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Why is constant growth a good thing?
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you again? this is the 4th thread already, just disable the damn proxy and go shitpost proudly as either a leaf or straya
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>>70742038
no money = no country. unless you considered third world shitholes as countries
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>>70741894
Pro-Natalist policies mate; you need your lads to stop fapping to anime and start breeding; Ethnic "diversity" is not a path you want to go down; plenty of us are still trying to reverse it.
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Accept the coming virile weeabo hordes nips.
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>>70742027
b-b-but GDP!!!
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>This planet need more humans goys come on it's 2016
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>>70741894
>Sweden
>economy is growing
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>>70742362
because it's a short term solution to something that was never a problem.

Infinite growth is a meme, you either stop it at a sustainable population or race toward the cliff.
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>>70741894
So how much of that Soros money you taking in to fake believing that, eh?
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holy crap! in 1000 years they might have 100 million instead of 130 million! better flood it with mudslimes!
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>>70741894
How do you have negative babies?
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1: ban abortion
2: deregulate housing
3: cut the cord on old people being preserved for no reason

>three things developed countries won't do until it's too late
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>>70742588
More people dying than being born.
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They'll start a war before they collapse to boost it back up again. Just like old times
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>>70742402
Let immigrants in ...eventual shit hole.
Keep immigrants out... eventual deserted shit hole.

This is what happens when you choose to hot glue your figurines or fuck fancy fleshlights instead of pursuing human relationships. Well not to the Japs exclusively, they work too much. But if you get a sexbot and don't breed, you run the risk of having religiously devoted men who wouldn't do such a thing breed with the women, take over society, take your precious sexbots and throw YOU along with THEM into a flaming pit before they stone you to death for being such a degenerate.

Is that what you want, you cunts, huh?
Is the imagined terror of a money grubbing woman so bad you'd risk all that?
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>>70742607
or deport the old people to china.
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>>70742055
This

>>70742176
Anyone who isn't a kike
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>>70742140
Yeah, surpassed by third world countries you fucking idiot.
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Japan is literally full. They are 120 million on that little island. Reduction in population is only good at this point.
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Yeah, I'm sure, after considering all economic factors involved, the only possible conclusion is 'not enough enrichment'.
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How do I move to Japan?
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Birthrate will regulate itself once their population is down enough
There's already far too much on too little area.
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Low population growth
= lower unemployment.
= stronger influence of technological advancements
= sustainable economy
= lower infrastructure costs
= lower housing prices
= greater social cohesion
= lower crime

Why all this hate for an extra 3% fake moneys?
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>>70742588
If 2 people have 1-2 children max, they effectively shrink or keep the population the same.
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>>70741894
Don't make the same mistake the west did. At least ban niggers and shitskins
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>>70741894
>immigrants
desu just throw a massive rave with every under -35 in japan and feed them all mdma

you'll have an entire generation of bastards but it's better than your current zero birthrate
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>>70741894
Make more japanese babies, you stupid cunt!
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>>70742619
Don't they want their old people to die? What are they keeping them around for?
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>>70742678
well finland we are working on artificial wombs, which is going to be the next gen of humans, they will replace us, gonna be a little terrifying. Matter of a fact, i bet somewhere in the military has it not to the public. We just need immortality and unlimited youth, or virtual reality then we can let the wombs be developed.
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>>70742483
It does
It needs more humans
Less great apes

That said a shrinking population is a good thing once you get through the initial shock
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>>70742713
>little island
It's a bunch of islands

Japan's land areas is actually bigger than Germany's

It's really only that crowded in the big cities
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Why dont you guys just fuck?
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>>70742678
cucked
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bullshit, mechanization is the future and Japan is way ahead of the rest of us in this, this is also the reason you don't need mudslime immigrants, your economy is fine even with low birthrate
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>>70742706
haha

I am not Jew but I am big fun of money.

Also ask a same question to students who major economics.

They will answer that Money is more important than state.
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>>70741894
If they can just resist the urge to take in immigrants they'll come out of this in like 10-15 years as the world's best country. A big problem with Japan right now is overpopulation and lack of opportunity for young people, once the old fucks die it'll be a great place to live.
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>>70743004
because flesh lights and autism, japan has become a sterotype meme country now. also see >>70742960
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>>70742994
>Japan's land areas is actually bigger than Germany's
The problem is that a lot of it is mountains.
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Solution to the world's problems:

Destroy the region of the brain associated with negative feelings.

Enslave niggers ethically.
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>>70742960
Well that's just dandy!
I sure hope that becomes a thing before Shariah law does.
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- Japan will be less crowded : good thing.
- Japan will do business overseas : good thing.
- Japan will keep gaijin out : good thing.
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>>70742483
I was wondering, how did people have small families in the past before contraception? Did they abstain from fucking after 2-3 babies, or did they pump 20 babies but only 10% of them reached adulthood before dying because of harsh life conditions?
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>>70743083
Works for the Swiss

>captcha: select all images with mountains
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>>70742994
>Japan's land areas is actually bigger than Germany's
And their population is 150% of that of Germany.

Also Germany has a lot more habitable land than Japan, unless you think living on steep mountains is practical.

Germany also has very low birthrates.

High pop density = lower birthrates, it will regulate itself.
Low birthrates aren't permanent
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>>70742483
What were homo sapien populations like before the ice age?
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>>70743066

>I am big fun of money

literally wat?
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>>70742027
Well, the kebab ammount is growing
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>>70741894
the broken english almost makes this bait believable
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>>70743177
Miscarriage, low life expectancy, can't get pregnant when already pregnant, high mortality.

>have 9 babies
>4 are miscarriage
>2 are killed at age 4 from disease
>2 die at age 26 after having 9 kids.
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>>70743245
Fleshlights and action figures with soft, pliable breasts are not cheap.
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>>70742362

More people in the work force = Stronger economy.

Also with more young than old people, older people can actually retire. Japan's problem is that pretty soon most of their population will be retired on Social Security, and the young workforce will be minuscule in comparison.
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>>70743186
Their mountains aren't prone to explode, though.

The problem with settling smack dab in the ring of fire.
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>everyone always talking about how fucking crowded japan is
>literally have apartments smaller than my bathroom
>population starts declining so it can settle into a more stable equilibrium at a lower level
>OMG NO WE NEED TO KEEP OUR POPULATION ARTIFICIALLY HIGH FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON

This is fucking ecology 101. A particular habitat can only support so many at a sustainable level. If this level is overshot, various factors will come into play that will force it to balance out. If deer over-reproduce, there will be so many of them that they'll crowd out the habitat and they'll die of starvation because there isn't enough food to go around. And then this causes the population to drop back down to a sustainable level.

Importing migrants just makes the problem worse. Take that same scenario with the overcrowded deer starving due to lack of food. Now imagine there was also a continuous flow of new deer from another forest coming to their habitat. The problem of not having enough food for the amount of deer would never go away, because the population is never allowed to drop down to a sustainable level. Deer will keep dying far in excess of what would happen if they just let it decline naturally.
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>>70743373
Rice is cheap.
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>>70743329
>This country will collapse without Immigrants.
This belief is retarded no matter who posts it.
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>>70743373
>state mandated, fiscally insolvent, retirement funds destroy economies
Who would have thought.
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>>70741894

>according to IMF
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>this shill again
sage sage sage
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>>70741894
God, how many times a year will we have this thread?
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>>70743378
I still say Japan should make babies, it doesn't seem to be crowded outside the big cities
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>>70741894
Better to die chaste than live violated
If the only way to save your nation that you can see is importing people from other countries, then maybe its actually time to die
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>>70743574
cuck cuck cuck
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>>70743672
POO
>LOO
POO
>LOO
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>>70741894
but with all the schoolgirls
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>>70743663
It's farmland. You sort of need some of that.

There's also the problem of having enough water.

Sure, Japan should make babies, but not more than just about replacement.
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Fuck immigration. Government needs to step in and publicly say HEY PEOPLE HAVING SOME DAMN KIDS and then provide necessary financial and social support to make that happen. Just because one generation is slipping behind doesn't mean we have to wipe the entire country's slate clean with subhuman trash to get birth rates back up. Same applies to every single country on the planet.
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>>70743458
>Welfare and all kind of Social Systems based on population growth
>being a western society
>wait what
It pisses me off so hard
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>>70741894
You guys have a peado culture anyway, you can burn for all I care.
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>>70743730
Hahaha what a funny and amusing reply
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>>70741894
>swallowed the GDP growth meme
Your glorious nation is moving back into equilibrium with nature.
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>>70741894
GOOD RIDDANCE
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>>70742960
>artificial wombs

I only wonder what kind of fucked-up "humans" these things will vomit out.
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>>70741894
HOLY SHIT !
AT THIS RYTHME, JAPAN WILL HAVE ONLY 100 MILLIONS PEOPLE IN TWO HUNDREDS YEARS

Of course, the fact you propose to avoid doom by importing the filth of the world escape you.
I'll come to japan, i'll get citizenship, and i'll vote for the biggest, most xenophobic party you have, even if it results in my deportation.

Fuck you.
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>>70741894
Population is like a sine wave in normal situations where the capacity to sustain growth has been reached. It goes up, it goes down, it goes up again, it goes down again, etc.

Too bad socialists have created a pyramid scheme which will collapse without perpetual growth lel. Looks like you'll need to import niggers from Africa to feed your pyramid scheme.
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>>70741894
You are Japanese right? So do you not know about your cultural customs? Honor above everything else? Suicide is an option?
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>>70742362
This, a million times
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>>70743911
Pedo culture?
Like systematically covering up actual child molestation?
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>>70742733
They don't want niggers there.
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>>70744080
Souls don't exist. Biology isn't magical. Genetics aren't voodoo.
I hope you're a woman or a shitskin, i hate interacting with numales.
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>>70744265
Yeah them dirty catholics.
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>>70744184
you fell for the proxy
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>>70741894
you fucking proxy weebs are cancer
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>>70741894

so long and thanks for all the faps
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Japan's problem is that they hate other Asians. If you can let this go, Japan can be like China and allow other Asian minorities to blend in with the people and it'll be like nothing ever happened. You don't even have to import niggers and shitskins.
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>>70741894
Or just encourage native Japanese people to have children instead of replacing them with other races in their own countries. Japan's birth rate has been low for many years. This is not new and you are a shill.
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>>70741894
>Accept immigrant boost economy. look at Germany and Sweden, their economy is growing due to immigrant's and diversity power

please don't fucking let the globalism infect your country. Yes the easy answer is immigration, but that will fuck your culture, fuck your race, and fuck your country.

The more difficult and correct solution to this problem is to have an internal culture shift. Decrease work week hours so that people don't sit on their ass looking busy for 70 hours per week.

It's gonna need government reform to force employees to send their workers home after a ten hour shift, Everyone knows they don't get anything done in those extra 4-5 hours. This will lead to more free time to do whatever they want, like start a fucking family
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Suppose a country has -1% economic growth but -5% population growth.

Everyone in the country is getting richer, but the country is shrinking.

Here's the thing: this is absolutely fine. The country is not in an economic crisis. People are continuing to accumulate more wealth and goods. Everyone is getting better off over time, just as in countries which are booming. The country is just getting smaller. That's ok. And for the record,you literally can't have eternal exponential population growth, so you better get used to the idea of at least a leveling off of population.

Would you rather live in a country with 5% economic growth and 10% population growth? The economy is growing, but per capita everyone is getting poorer. You can be a "superpower" like India, where most of your country doesn't have toilets, but hey at least some number is positive instead of negative!

As an average citizen, you should absolutely not give a shit about global growth as log as per capita growth is fine. The only people who shit their pants over shrinking countries are investors and bankers, because they don't care about people living good lives, they only care about total size so their roi is positive. Why do you think they are pushing open border policies so hard? If the population doubles and the economy only grows 10%, the average person is nearly twice as poor. But the investor gets a sweet return. Get it?

Stop spreading panic about shrinking countries. I'd rather live in a small, rich (per capita) country than a huge, poor shithole.
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>>70744173
underrated post.
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>>70742362
Because we have only X in resources, services and finished products per year available, which will be distributed among Y nations, and how much each nation gets depends on their economy.

To illustrate:

"Well, in our country," said Alice, still panting a little, "you'd generally get to somewhere else—if you run very fast for a long time, as we've been doing." (what people belive growth means)

"A slow sort of country!" said the Queen. "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!" (what it actually means)
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>>70741894
It is time to return to your old Imperial ways.

When Trump becomes President, you can militarize again so you can conquer and obtain more resources.

Your people need to make more kids though and not import immigrants. Don't end up like the fucking West. If you are going to obtain immigrant at least make sure they are compatible with your culture and are not fucking Muslims.
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>>70744431
Jesus christ she's fucking hot.
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>>70744315
your a voidless thing.
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>>70741894
No matter how desperate Japanbros may be: Don't rely too much on immigration.
If your governments decides to cuck you by importing workforce in order to maintain the economy and especially the pensions for all your elderly people make sure
a) you only import the best
b) the can be naturalized to the japanese society.

But I'm confident there is a good chance based japan won't do that.
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>>70744521
This
Why do people have this delusion that a country needs to have economic all the time, even a developed country.
I mean think about it from this perspective

>land area - limited
>resources - limited
>economic growth - unlimited?
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>>70741894
you guys have to quit the hentai and start fapping to 3D women again
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>>70742538
This. Sigh
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>>70741894
That's what happens when you're a bunch of godless heretic fucks.
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>>70742619
They were called baby boomers for a reason. Everyone claiming they all need to be replaced are full of shit. Most of them work shit civic jobs anyway.
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>>70741894
>According to IMF,Japan's growth rate will be -0.1% in 2016.
>This country will collapse without Immigrants. I and many Japanese economists were saying this.
>-0.1%
>overcrowded island
>0-1%
>population collapse
you're fucking retarded and people like you need to go back to gardening not thinking
theres nothing wrong with a shrinkage in the population not caused by a disease that kills everyone and theres no need for a massive influx of immigrants.
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>>70741894
>Accept immigrant boost economy. look at Germany and Sweden, their economy is growing due to immigrant's and diversity power

If you count as having to borrow extra money in order to function as a country as "growing" then sure.
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>>70743177
Just like some girls maintain their virginity. Anal sex.
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>>70745693
Rather, we're growing in absolute numbers, but we're losing per capita. That's not good for anyone involved.
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>>70741894
Time to go impregnate some she-gooks fellas.
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>>70742438
I'm honestly surprised the Japs don't set up some NIPPONESE BREEDING GTOUNDS. It fits perfectly into my idea of what the Japanese are all about.
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>>70741894
>According to IMF
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>>70742706
Shit, I'm a kike and I find that repulsive.
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>>70743363
You forgot all the hard drive space needed to download hentai.
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>>70744080
Nothing worse than what comes out of single moms
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>>70746292
dude shekels lmao
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>>70741894
>overpopulated island nation is starting to slowly scale back
>DOOOOOOOOOOM

It's a positive self-correction, you fake-ass G.I. Joe.
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>>70745090
Fucking thank you India. You get it. Unfortunately, in your country, foreign investors and corrupt elites within have pushed a policy of growth at the expense of per capita worthwhile lives. If India had half as many people and 70% of its current total wealth, it'd be a much nicer place to live. Unfortunately, that would lose bankers and elites a lot of money, so it will never be allowed to pass. They will persue total growth at the expense of per capita wealth and happiness right up to the point where they can no longer get a profit due to the country literally reaching a point where additional lives add $0 dollars to gdp. Not just for India, but for the entire world outside of their gated communities, secured buildings, and island vacation spots.
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>>70741894
I mean, your country is the size of California but with more than 3 times as many people.

Your only real problem right now is you have too many old people and not enough young ones.
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>>70742619
is this a joke?
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About to die according to whom?
Socialists, kikes and keynesian scum?
The people who have nothing in their interest but constant growth of the global population and unstable, unreliable "wealth"?

If you have a negative growth rate and a system designed to exist in a circumstance of positive one, then make a new system. One adopted to negative growth, better yet, one which cares not whether the growth is negative or positive. The answer is not reforging an entire population, it's reforging a system that prays on that population. Surprisingly, you'd find out that less people at the current time would be a good thing, if we were to take keynesianists out of governmental power. Fuck your wife; she and her kind are the reason for kikes being rich and controlling us.
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Can I come?
I'm white and I love anime.
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We're headed there as well.


Some ass hat was trying to tell me about unemployment and how the economy was picking back up.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-07/more-college-grads-finding-work-but-not-in-the-best-jobs
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-12/imf-warns-of-global-stagnation-as-it-cuts-growth-outlook-again
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-gdp-expands-at-0-2-pace-in-first-quarter-1430310699
And he said "if you listen to the Republicans it would make it seem like the sky is falling."
Isn't it? You can't chalk all of it up to fear-mongering. And all these job growth memes are just that, part time work for kids that are overqualified or with shit degrees.

We should start discussing survival.
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>>70747723
Are you the town rape artist?
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>>70741894
much better than i expected or theyve made it up

>we
>our
t. expat
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>their economy is growing due to immigrant's and diversity power
Also crime rates are growing as well
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>>70741894
>>70747555
Correction: I misread that you "married a japaneese economist who was saying this", so my
>Fuck your wife; she and her kind are the reason for kikes being rich and controlling us.
should be
>Go, fuck yourself. You and your kind are the reason for kikes being rich and controlling us.
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>>70741894
>We have no choice. right?
Accepting immigrants will not increase the number of Japanese. You will only cede territory to foreigners.
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>>70748721
He's actually a known troll here. Remember the "white man should come to Japan and impregnate every girl" threads? It's him. Definitely
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pearl harbor 2.0? we'l rebuild u realnice again afterward :p
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>>70742027
Actually Sweden is already a third world country, look it up. You can't become a third world country, because it says if that state was non-aligned with the UdSSR/USA during the cold war.
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>>70746863
And I forgot to mention, when continued population driven economic growth becomes impossible, don't expect the IMF or anyone else to suddenly realize they need to pursue a strategy of per capita growth driven by increasing production per person.

Expect a culling. They'll set the global middle class against the lower class and watch the fireworks. You might even say it's already begun in Europe. So much anger between immigrants and current inhabitants, but not one NOT ONE of the people responsible for the entire mess has paid any real price. Merkel isn't even going to lose her position.
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>>70741894
good, you all deserve it for rape of the nanjing, pearl harbor, your pretentious culture of apologizing and seppuku, and anime
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>>70741894
Populations naturally stabilise then oscillate between a regulate maximum and minimum that occur every few generations.

This trend has been distorted in the west because of the immigration influx and we will pay for it within a few generations.
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Why don't govts. provide incentives to having children when growth rate is low?

Is it because immigrants are cheaper?
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Fucking finally.
Japan is the most overpopulated place i've seen, second only to some places in china.
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>>70748957
>Non-aligned
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>>70749274
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>>70742877
underrated.
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>>70743066
Money is backed by the country. Baka!
Turn your country into shit and your money will be worthless.
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>Japanese economists
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That's excellent news. The sooner that beta shithole dies off, the sooner whites (on the internet) can get back to emulating something that actually produces testosterone. Seriously, many of you are super fat and not exactly the most intelligent people, you shouldn't be fucking yourselves further by trying to emulate a country full of beta, socially crippled pillow fucking faggots.
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>>70741894
There is absolutely no problem with a declining population in a homogeneous country like Japan. Say the population declined by half, that will make Japan a more sustainable country in the future and leave the Japanese with more natural resources, better independence,
and more natural beauty thus a higher standard of living.

It isalready a grossly overpopulated island chain. The UK is also grossly
overpopulated. But because of competitive reproduction strategies in a
heterogeneous population, the UK population is still growing. And
that spells doom for the UK and any other nation following its example.
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>>70749765
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>>70741894
Why do economists not give a shit about low birth rates until now? you have had since 1970 to solve this but now you want to flood the country with immigrants?

they should hang every last one of you.
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>>70741894
jobs are being automated
they will not have to face massive unemployment that the USA will face stfu
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>>70741894
pls japano nu

dont you already get a good amount of weaboos going over to japan?
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>>70741894
Just cut benefits and let the elderly die. If you must take in immigrants, accept only whites and East Asians. Do not make our mistake, Japan. Japan is literally the only remaining place of relative ethnic purity.
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>>70742176
every person with common fucking sense and some sort of morality, fucking chinkike
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>>70741894
Japan would do well with less people look how fucking cramped that little island is.
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>>70743672
THIS, poo is right for once
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>>70750392
The kind of "men" trying to live in Japan aren't exactly going out and mingling with the locals. They're just hiding at home and watching anime in another country.
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>>70742176
Behold the end result of a population of atheists and cucks. No wonder your country is dying. It is full of cucks like you.
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>trusting the IMF

hahahahahaha
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>>70750756
kek
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>>70741894
Why don't people understand birth rates naturally rise and fall as the country's ability to sustain he population rises and falls?

You're so dumb.
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>>70741894
Cultural enrichment when?
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>>70741894
You have 140.000.000 PEOPLE on an island the size of a raftboat. You can manage with a third of that, and importing niggers will only give the risk of a downfall a mean to come true.
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>>70744315
you could technically claim the information that your neurons make up is a kind of soul...I guess it depends if there is such a thing as higher/alternate dimensions for us to occupy or not after we die
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>>70741894
You of course realize that you do not need to continue to grow your economy as you lose people right?

You wont "collapse" if you just scale back with the times.
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>>70741894
All you have to do is your government needs to go on national TV and tell everyone to fuck
The more kids you have the less problems you'll have and forcing the NEETS out of their ruts will help your economy greatly
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>>70743955
POO IN THE FUCKING LOO YOU DISGUSTziNG FREAK
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>>70742362
It's not necessarily. Smaller force to take of the aging population is the worst part that I can think of, which isn't even bad if they have their own retirement savings. I don't know why they can't just say you get a bit extra if you have a couple kids, or pay a bit less in taxes. Importing outsiders isn't the magical solution that many claim it to be.
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>>70741894

holy shit, how brainwashed are you guys. YOu guys didn't collapse in the lost decade. You guys didn't collapse during WWII.

And you think economic growth is the sword of damocles?

-.1 growth rate is not the end. All that means is that your economy is pretty fucking stable right now. Infinite growth is a meme, and a shitty one at that.
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>>70741894
The whole world is dying, OP. We built modern society on masculinity and warfare. Those are illegal now.
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Just wait 20 years. The old people will be dead and prices will fall. Then people will have 2. 5 kid's again
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>>70741894
In 2016 Japanese population increase is estimated to be -0.7%,

So actually per capita income increases in Japan.

source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/26/japan-population-declines-first-time-since-1920s-official-census
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>>70741894
>Japanese economist
Bruh
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>>70741894
>many Japanese economists were saying this.
That's fucking bullshit. This is why /pol/ sucks. Provide your sources. I've known many Japanese economists who say Japan's economy can grow even with a declining population. He gave many good solid points about how the Japanese economy can grow in a declining population.
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>>70743373
but the younger ones are also 2 to 3 times more productive than the old dipshits
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>>70741894
Japan has been stagnated economically since the 1990s. Why would they start getting immigrants now of all times?
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>>70741894
Why dont you have sex with females?
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>>70741894
You could just start fucking women and having babies again you nip cocksucker.
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Create a Japanese immigration policy between new generations of Japanese immigrants in other countries like Brazil. There are lots of Japanese in Brazil that would like to live in Japan but they got kicked out in the last economic crisis.
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>>70741894
Japanese are one of the finest races on earth. If you fuckers ruin your island with inferior genes I'm gonna flip my shit.

Japanese government should just do that Russia is planning on doing and BUY babies from the citizens to raise them in government centers that brainwash them to be perfect humans. DO NOT let in mass migrants.
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>>70741894
ALL large nations are going through a depopulation cycle not just japan

america is expected to have 1/3 as many people in 40 years. not 1/3 fewer but 1/3 as many people.

china will have 20% fewer which is 1/5 less people and india is expected to have a 10% drop

europe will most likely have a 15% drop and africa isnt pulling in decent growth with south africas violence and west africas ebolageddon
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>>70743177
its called pulling out, despite what sex ed says its quite effective
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>>70741894
>diversity power

The dirtiest form of power known to man.
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>>70742678
>imagined terror

kek
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>>70752798


i can vouche. been pulling out for 10 years without a kid
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>>70752731
>Russia is planning on doing and BUY babies
Source?
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>>70741894
>there must be infinite population growth
Fuck off proxyfag. The nips can tough it out one generation and then they're golden. So could every other first world country if they were only given the choice.
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>>70741894
limits of japan are reached,
only idiots could believe, that mass immigration can solve their population problem.

The logical option for immigration is, adding a lot of violent immigrants in one stagnated society and let the fight against natives.
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>>70741894
You want to get back on track, Japan? Here's some things to do.
1) Stop feeding your men soy in everything. It creates estrogen in them and effectively, over time, emasculates them.
2) Get your middle age people to pull their hikkikomori kids out of their fucking rooms and make them go live life instead of clinging to their parents' tits like manbabies. Parasite children are a detriment to everyone including themselves.
3) Start fucking women without protection. This is scientifically proven the best way to produce more children.
4) Find some of that old, kick-ass warrior code impetus you nips used to have. You were cool around sengoku jidai and even during WWII your fighting spirit was admirable. Just don't go believing your president is a god or anything.
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>>70741894
>Brazil has lots of diversity
>-3.77% gdp growth forecast for 2016
What are we doing wrong? Do we need Syrian refugees and Islam too?
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>>70753964
kek

good point
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>>70753964
and you also need jewish people to controll bank system.
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>>70741894
isn't the Japanese economy already strong, the third largest in the world? it would take decades of strong growth for Germany and the UK to overtake you for example. There has to be a limit surely to how much more Japan can develop? Japan doesn't have many natural resources and has a demographic problem. Yes I agree you probably need more immigrants, but you should be able to hand pick westerners and other Asians rather than open the flood gates to third worlders. At least do something to increase birth rate like tax breaks or cash incentives to people who have children for example. I'm no expert on this but it seems to me that a big problem in Japan is that you work long unsocial hours and seem to be a nation of porn addicts, so people aren't so interested in marriage and children anymore.
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>>70741894
>Accept immigrant boost economy

kike on a proxy
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>>70741894
you need more dik
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>>70741894
Welcome to like 2016, Japan.

1999 says hi.
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>>70744315
preach it
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Your entire argument is built on the presuppositon that there is only economic values as tradtionally thought and there is no value in other things.

This is false.
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>>70741894
>According to IMF
stopped reading there
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>>70743955
don't you have a sattelite to monitor poojeet?
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>>70743860
>Government needs to step in and publicly say HEY PEOPLE HAVING SOME DAMN KIDS and then provide necessary financial and social support to make that happen
Germany tried but modern Germans are too damn beta to make babies even with all the facilities available. The rapefugee fiasco is the result of the failure of natality campaigns
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>>70749848
>There is absolutely no problem with a declining population in a homogeneous country like Japan. Say the population declined by half, that will make Japan a more sustainable country in the future and leave the Japanese with more natural resources, better independence,

Except when you have a population made up entirely of seniors collecting pension with no youth to sustain that.
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>>70742176
>>70741894
>it doesn't matter if the country goes to hell as long as I have some money (which won't actually matter when the country goes to hell since it will be useless)
/pol/ sat there on Tuesday, hating the jews.
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>>70755130
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>people responding like OP is actually Japanese
I wish this meme would end.
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>>70741894

It is time for the horny beta white men to fulfill their destiny and go an impregnate the Japanese.

The time of the Amerasian is upon us.
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Why does this thread keep getting posted?
Is it the same extremely cucked nip every single time?
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>>70755130
holy shit, the cuck duo going after india
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>>70742176

>gdp
>my money

you fucking retard, the refugees don't help the financial situation of active, working age individuals, they only help the elite as cheap laborers and slaves

and maybe some selfish, childless pensionleeches, who don't give a fuck about their country
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>>70741894

Abenomics at work boys!
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>>70744315

You know what the government will do once it gets a hold of all the cloning technology? They will kill you off and create genetically obedient clones of you.

>ib4 no it won't!

As always shown in history. people who had power always abused it.
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>>70741894
Fuck refugees
Take me instead
I will procreate all up and down those islands
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>>70741894
You faggots are in possession of one of Nature's most powerful forces of destruction, yet you're bitching about the population?
Wow.
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>>70756784
>As always shown in history. people who had power always abused it.

Look up Cincinnati. There is a reason all true patriots respect him.
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>>70741894
It's because of that damn anime shit
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>>70745135
which is kinda weird as jap porn is quite good, its like the french wine of porn. except the wine is semen.
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>>70741894
Populations don't drop forever. They eventually stabilize.
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>>70741894
It's your welfare state, not your lack of immigrants that is the problem.
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It's ok Japan.
Just don't stop making anime ok?
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>>70741894
And you realize that now? Japan has been growing about 0% p.a. since early 90s.

Btw the temporary GDP boost refugees give is completely government funded with loan money.

Saging for stupid proxy bait thread.
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>>70757239
>>70741894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM&nohtml5=False
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>>70742176
Based Jap is right

Fuck all you faggots, I'll take the money anyday
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>>70741894
>look at Germany and Sweden, their economy is growing due to immigrant's and diversity power
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>a country of over 100 million will decline by 0.1%
>GUYS WE'RE GONNA DIE IN..........1000 years????

dont fool yourself at that time the world is already gone anyways to world war 78
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>>70741894
I'm coming to save your country anon
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Where da virgin jp qt at?
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>>70741894
BREED YOU BEAUTIFUL GOOKS BREED
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>>70755978
It's either a bitter 50 year old English Teacher. Who had nothing going for him in his country. Couldn't get laid so went to teach the one thing he can do. Talk english.
Or, a bored soldier having nothing better to do.
Or, a proxy fag.
Or, a gook proxy fag.

>saged
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>>70743911
>t. britcuck
Isn't it time for your daily offering of your gf to Achmed?
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>>70756943
They don't need children raised by single mothers. Just the niggorilla's are doing in America.
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>>70741894
>live on a tiny island
>HOLY SHIT WHY AREN'T YOU PEOPLE BREEDING MORE AND EXCEEDING YOUR CAPACITY TO SUPPORT YOUR OWN POPULATION THEREBY BECOMING 100% DEPENDENT ON FOREIGN NATIONS TO FEED YOU OWN CITIZENS AND CREATING A FRAGILE SOCIETY THAT COULD COLLAPSE FROM THE SLIGHTEST INTERNATIONAL CONFLICT
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>>70753106
I read about it a while back. I could be wrong, it could be totally illegitimate

Here's a few articles on it. Also try googling "Russia buy babies"

https://www.rt.com/politics/338926-nationalists-suggest-state-buys-out/

http://www.dailystormer.com/russian-nationalists-introduce-law-allowing-the-state-to-buy-babies-from-women-considering-abortion/

>treating Dailystormer as a legitimate source
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>>70758889
>niggorilla's are doing in America

Witness the American Niggorillas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AF2yolzeho
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Would it be crazy of me to think the booming JAV industry is partly to blame for the birthrate problem in Japan? Not going to lie I fap to it a lot, and I've noticed they have new girls debuting every week and all I'm thinking is why aren't these women starting families instead of being semen pumped by faceless men on camera?
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>>70747955
Moldavia is not here bro
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>>70759177
>THE BAYUHBEE
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>>70741894

In an industrial society, and not a service based one; it may be possible to increase real GDP with immigrants, however, this comes with a direct decline in quality of life and average wages. Truth be told, a country doesn't need hundreds of millions to survive; only a nation with the desire to be a world super power such as America, Russia, or China would encourage population growth, and most of them are trying to STUNT population growth, because, they know that it makes a country less stable, and lowers quality of life.

Small countries like Denmark, the Netherlands, and Switzerland all have small populations, and are service based. Now look at the more industrious economies of Russia, America, and China, and notice the decline in quality of life, and median wages. The only reason one would want to increase their nation's population would be to embrace a collectivist mindset, where the larger the collective the better, and undermine individualism in the process; this excludes families, however, as they simply want children, and probably aren't having children for political reasons.

The real way to fix Japan is to stop the Keynesian stimulus that ran its economy into the ground. The island was doing extremely well until the 1990's when it faces economic hardship, and instead of embracing the free market, Japan used Keynesian policies and raised the debt by 200%, with nothing to show for it.

This is also a time for Japan to decide if it wants to be an industry or service based economy. By artificially devaluing currency (below the US dollar) in the way China does, a country can produce goods, and ship them to the United States at the profit of both sides. However, in a service based economy it would only serve to the detriment of the country, and hurt the country's infrastructure.

Raising the value of the currency through a gold standard, would increase the Japanese credit rating, and make savings accounts worth more, thus raising quality of life.
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It's time we stepped in to save the country. A rapid influx of virgin neckbeards, with the rallying cry "Japanese pussy is made for white dick".
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>>70741894
>World suffering under the strain of over-population.
>Your country's already heavily dense population is going to go down.

How is this a bad thing?
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Shitty meme,
So what if populations in top countries are falling? People don't have to churn out 10 kids so 3 make it to adulthood. Its an opportunity to streamline a country's workforce and use automation where needed. Brown ppl only fuck and thats it.
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>>70742526
This knee grow gets it
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>>70741894
if the economy falls -.1% but population falls .5% means there's more for the remaining ones, if you bring immigrants and the economy grows let's say 3% but population grows 5% there's going to be less for each of you.
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>>70759961
Pretty much this. Not every country has to be a superpower. The world should not also have one superpower. Like it is right now with America.

>The island was doing extremely well until the 1990's when it faces economic hardship, and instead of embracing the free market, Japan used Keynesian policies and raised the debt by 200%, with nothing to show for it.

You might like this documentary about the Bank of japan. Not really sure how true it is but puts a perspective.
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>>70760993
It's not. Not for the Japanese anyway.

For globalist bankers and investors it's disastrous. I mean, what would you rather have as an amoral bottom line fund manager: a stable post industrial nation going through a controlled shrinkage while preserving quality of life OR an overpopulated third world hellhole? Where do you stand to make the most easy, unregulated, untraced cash? A self-interested, proud nation that acts to ensure it benefits from the deals and policies it makes OR a corrupt shitpile where every politician will eagerly sell out their countrymen for a chance to leave them and join the jetset class?

Don't sell out your nations for the bottom line of foreigner's investment accounts. Don't believe the lies of globalist shills who would rather the planet have 12 billion people making 10 trillion in goods than a planet of 3 billion people making 9 trillion.

If you don't want to live in an overpopulated hellworld straight of Judge Dredd or Warhammer 40k, oppose globalist population increase shills with all your might.
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>>70762042
Forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY
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>>70741894

So a nation with massive population density issues is responding by allowing population totals to decline, thereby helping to reduce population density...

...and you want them to import more human beings?

Fuck that shit, the benefits of stability and less crowding are well worth it vs. bringing rats to breed for the sake of "muh economy".
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>250 replies
fucking kill yourselves
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>>70741894
Start fucking and everything will work out, christ
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>>70741894
>Accept immigrant boost economy. look at Germany and Sweden, their economy is growing due to immigrant's and diversity power
Don't be a fucking faggot retard OP.Diversity kills nations.Just look at my shithole of a country.Everyday I dream of liberation from my life.For the ride to end.
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>>70744884
Who was it?
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>>70746863

There's a reason why population growth slows in countries where things are good- it means that there's more to go around, giving everyone a better standard of living.

Importing large additional populations does nothing but systematically destroy a developed country- countries like the US could pull it off earlier when they were populating essentially unclaimed, undeveloped land but now only end up shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to standards of living each time there's a wave of South/Central Americans coming in that literally drag the country's average citizen closer to poverty.

Japan has the right idea. Fuck immigration, let population wax and wane normally. Mass immigration in the modern age serves only to obliterate middle classes and give the elites a new serfdom to bow and scrape for what crumbs they choose to drop.
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>>70741894
That's what they get for not forcing Christianity on their people.
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>>70762042

I'll definetely watch it, thanks for the link anon.
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>>70755191

That's because Germans also realized that constantly pumping out kids doesn't actually improve things.

In fact, if they'd said "fuck it" and not imported thousands upon thousands of foreigners, Germany might be smaller in population but a fuckload happier and less burdened supporting them.
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>>70764755
But then, who would vote for Merkel?
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>>70765084

Multiculturalists like Merkel literally gain power from importing votes guaranteed to support their party line at the cost of causing the nation itself to decay.

All it takes is letting someone worse off than your country inside and making them citizens and not giving a shit that this causes your own land to reverse it's own progress trying to digest the results.
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