Climate deniers absolutely BTFO
http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/4/e1501693
Melting of polar icesheets is redistributing ice mass from poles, changing Earth's rotation.
Yeah, corporate fossil fuel burning premature experimentation with our fucking HOME planet's rotation is a great idea, because you know the risk managers and corporate cocksuckers took all of this into consideration.
Corporate cocksuckers fucked the planet. Great job, guys.
how can they prove its human influence and not an increased rate of solar flares?
>>70740099
>Melting of polar icesheets is redistributing ice mass from poles, changing Earth's rotation.
>Changing Earth's rotation
>changing
>rotation
I don't even know where to begin with something this stupid.
Weren't we gaining ice sheet mass though?
>>70740738
No. Only in psyops "studies" published by oil-funded organizations.
epin copypasta I made and keep posting in these threads because you dumb faggots can never come up with answers that aren't "hurr just google it m8 like a lot of scientists agree but never published their methodology or anything, they just agree so appeal to authority":
Prove it is:
A: happening (which I don't doubt).
B: can be directly linked to human actions like burning fossil fuels
C: post specifics, how the parts the humans are doing is actually significant. Like what percent is our fault.
D: post specifics, about just how fast "climate is changing" since "global warming" is no longer the meme term. I want real statistics like "we are getting X warmer every year and I will have to worry about it in Y years becuase Z happened and is devastating"
E: post specifics, about just why I should give two fucks if hipsters faggots have to move their shitty cities 2 miles inland while I pay for retarded infrastructure that would probably cost more
F: if all of that is all real and shit, why I would care if it's as tragic as the lefty faggots think, when they're all just destroying our countries and children's futures with mass immigration of mudslimes and taconiggers and increased socialism to support these subhumans
G: Explain how wind turbines that are complete and utter shit, cost more fossil fuels to build and transport and assemble and shit than they save over their liftime and only work in wind, but not too much wind so you have to use tradition power sources anyway, how solar isn't complete shit that get ruined by dust, only works during the day, without clouds or fog or any fag with an umbrella is within 20 miles
H: Explain why we should be pouring billions of my taxpayer money into this when it is proven the private sector is many times more efficient than any government grant program or research fund. If a company makes and patents the next big innovation in energy, they will literally become one of the biggest companies in existence
>>70740921
Why go through all that effort to convince one person when I can appeal to authority and convince 40 and just ignore you?
You don't really get how this whole politics thing works.
>>70740606
>>70740423
Polar ice doesn't get direct sunlight, it arrives obliquely. The melting is due to increasing ocean temperature and decreased polar snowfall.
>>70740099
>http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/4/e1501693
Nothing in the link draws a causal link between this and anthropogenic climate change.
>>70741026
Answer my question concerning the Earth's rotation, not where the ice comes from.
Also, btw, in 2015 saw above 30-year average ice cap extension in millions of km2 in the Arctic.
creationist and antiscience gumpers BTFO too\
muh tax munny....noble broad thinking there
>>70740099
it makes a certain amount of sense, but I don't think it's much of a disaster
>>70741140
Rotation? Where's the water go? Mainly to the baselevel, which will mean the equator, putting more mass at the equator. It also changes the angle of inclination thereby. That will affect precession of the equinoxes = changing seasons, times, durations, etc. Sorry, dumbass, Arctic ice is melting and is not offset by anything in Antarctica since both poles are out-of-phase independent systems.
>>70741450
Consider the precession of equinoxes and the seasons, timing and distribution of precipitation overland and over the sea, etc. It contributes to a system in flux by adding additional variability to an already unstable system.
>>70740606
Yes redistributing the mass will change the earths moment of inertia however the effect will probably be relatively minimal hence it probably won't change it by a significant amount. have you ever spun yourself in a desk chair and then thrown your arms out and it slows down your spin. Same thing
>>70741634
You're not actually trying to tell me that water moving away from the poles to the equator will produce an observable and non-negligible effect on Earth's rotation.
The closest observable effect is the moon's tidal effects on Earth, netting a 4cm shift of the moon's orbit away from Earth. This involves the tidal motion of all the surface water on the Earth, and more than likely the loose mass in the mantle. You're trying to tell me a tiny fraction of the water on Earth will actually cause a similar effect.
>>70742050
>kek implying this works.
You realize the volume of water in motion here is probably around 14 or 15 orders of magnitude below the mass of the Earth.
>>70741799
well there have been much harsher climatic changes over the centuries, it's hardly the end of the world and given enough time it would happen, anthropogenic or not
The psuedoscientific mythology of anthropogenic global warming is modern-day Lysenkoism.
>>70742132
That's why I said the effect won't be significant.
>>70742225
>That's why I said the effect won't be significant.
Its so insignificant that it is a non-argument and really won't help your global warming shilling.
>>70742050
If you were talking about ice structures many miles high melting into the ocean you would have a point. The conservation of angular momentum doesn't really mean anything here since the surface deviation is a tiny fraction of a percentage point.
>>70740099
They should remake that movie. It would be awesome in the internet age.
>>70740099
Funny thing is, with traditionalism and national socialism we wouldn't have to worry about this.
Reducing whatever the lefties are crying about on muh climate change would simply be a side effect of national socialism.
Lefties need to forcefully shape everything in order to reduce human effects on everything, when it comes to national socialism, that will be a positive sideproduct.
:^)
>American Education
>>70742632
National Socialism isn't free market capitalism
First, the polar ice caps melting is shifting the position of the north pole towards London and now its causing a change in rotation. I don't doubt the climate is changing or that humans play a role in that change, but still, this is getting rather obscure, like I'm fairly confident there's a twilight zone episode about the earth rotation getting all messed up.
>>70742332
This is the point I was trying to prove. While ops statement about change in earths rotation speed is correct the amount would be insignificant.
>>70742755
Capitalism is shit. On top of fucking everyone but the big jews, capitalism fucks the planet too. Nationalism socialism is perfect.
>>70742473
>ice structures many miles high melting into the ocean you would have a point
This. Just because ice sticks a little over a cup, when it melts, it will actually lower the water level, as ice takes more volume than water.
Unless Mt Kilimanjaro turns to water and melts into the oceans, there wont be any change to water levels.
Also, big thanks for closing those holes in the ozone layer over the poles, you know, they were meant to stop the accumulation of greenhouse gasses in the poles, but we had to go and haarp the ozone.
>>70742847
>Capitalism is shit. On top of fucking everyone but the big jews, capitalism fucks the planet too. Nationalism socialism is perfect.
Why? Your gypsy ass gets put into a camp under National Socialism, at least with FMC, you still have the ability to beg and steal people's possessions.
>>70742755
Capitalism is terrible.
I don't give a shit about economic prosperity or huge rises that always lead to bubbles that burst and create chaos that destroy and kill.
Communism is even worse though.
>>70742840
Fucks sake, I got your ID tags mixed up. Both of them are bright pink and the characters "f" and "1" look similar if you aren't paying attention.
Yeah we are in agreement.
>>70740921
A: HAPPENING.
B: happens from burning coal
C: we burned coal since the industrial revolution.
D: see picture
E: you don't have to nobody's making you
F: you can fix the nigger problem with a gun
G: solar power is getting better with nanoscale technology and wind isn't fucking going away anytime soon
H: lol where do the private sector companies get money faggot its all grants go to school
>>70742485
Read the disclaimer at the top, kike. All it took was a single Google search. http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum
>>70740099
>changing Earth's rotation
Thinks the planet is a giant spinning ball.
Topkekeler.
>>70742050
How could he not understand this?
>>70743379
Your graph proves nothing and no shit private sectors get public funds that's why I asked why the fuck we should pour millions of public money into this.
>>70741024
Shut up goyim we're making too much money without regulations
>>70743379
>Yes a few hundred years human's have changed the earth's climates.
you do know we need co2 right, its not some bogyman gas that going kill the earth
By the way, if we were to change the earth's rotational velocity, the Moon's orbit would gradually force it back to normal.
Hey does the ozone rotate with the Earth? If so wouldnt there be a less dense ozone in shit holes like China where they burn a disproportional amount of fossil fuels?
>>70743098
Lol didn't notice
>>70740897
>No. Only in psyops "studies" published by oil-funded organizations
You mean NOAA?
>>70743484
Are you seriously saying the Earth doesn't rotate or are you a flat earther or something? Explain yourself.
You can use the words 'climate change deniers' and put that kind of spin on it with radical name-calling, which is what progressives seem to always do, rather than looking at why some people are skeptical.
The climate changes; everyone really knows this, even people who think the earth is only 6,000 years old. It goes through warming and cooling periods. The earth has gone through periods of very high C02 in the atmosphere, very high temperatures and very cold temperatures. The last mini ice age froze George Washington in at Valley Forge, caused Mary Shelley to write Frankenstein, and lost Napoleon the Russian Front.
1) It's a widely accepted fact that the climate changes, sometimes drastically, through global warming and cooling periods. See pic related.
2) It is widely accepted that we are in a warming trend.
3) I do not see a fact that we are doomed from the current warming trend. Though that is possible. The PETM warming period raised temperatures 5 degrees and qualified as an extinction event.
4) It is possible that earth's climate systems are self-healing, and that warming periods will bring on cooling periods and vice versa, and that this possibly takes place over epochs.
5) I do not see a fact that humans are causing this current climate change period. The earth has a mass of 6,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms. The -entire biomass of the human population, including all waste and carbon emissions- is less than 1/trillionth the mass of the earth. I am skeptical that 1 trillionth (1/1,000,000,000,000 or .0000000000001) of anything would have much effect on it in any capacity; not in waste, not in carbon footprint, nor what have you.
Therefore, I am NOT skeptical of climate change, and I do not deny climate change Mr, Chicken Little OP. But I AM skeptical that the minutely small relative human biomass could have any effect on global climate systems, either in causing the climate of the earth to change, or in reversing any change in the climate.
>>70740099
god maximum overdrive was a good movie
>>70744943
You're joking.
