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This just in, it's Equal Pay Day on Twitter

https://twitter. /hashtag/equalpayday?s=09

>people still believing the wage gap myth
>current year
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There should be a federal law making it illegal to pay people differently based on gender. Oh wait

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Pay_Act_of_1963
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I can't believe a it for this old cuck to keel over and die before the convention can even happen
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>>70736324
>make $10000 less on average then men
Wait, arent american minimum wages 7.50$? So in a 40 hour work week, at 52 weeks per year: 15,600$ a year.
Is he really suggesting women who work minimum wage earn only 5,600$?
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WHY WON'T THIS STUPID SHIT GO AWAY
HOLY FUCK
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>>70736664
You're not knowing about the "server" wage which is prostituted and bribed to remain by big business restaurants and hotels via USA Congress.

Bartenders and waitstaff may (if the pub owner desires) only get a legal wage of $2.13 an hour.

There will be 1000 cries of "but they make $1000s in tips". 1. ask someone in the industry which statistic NEVER tips. 2. if a place is slow going (such as during rain, snow, EPL game) the waitstaff have no customers. 3. some places force their waitstaff to parse out their tips with a bartender / bus-boy.

>inb4 "get a better job, they're everywhere"
>I'm not a waiter.
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>make some posts about the pay gap myth
>followers who I follow start tweeting passive aggressive ''ever see a post and just think why do I follow this person?'' tweets
>mfw

How come I can tolerate different opinions? Is this a super power?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj_bN0L8XM
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>>70737110
Debating someone on the content of their argument takes work.

Memeing away their argument, dismissing them as racist, sexist etc and never actually engaging them with a fact driven argument is easier and socially acceptable today.
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https://twitter.com/marieclaire/status/719902905311084544
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>>70737644
and it has the added bonus of transferring a couple oppression points to you if done successfully
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>>70736324
Don't the majority of liberals realize the wage gap is a myth now? Most of the time I see it discussed on reddit, everyone seems to agree that it is. Tweets like this make him unelectable
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>>70736324
Why exactly are you not hijacking the hashtag, faggots?
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>>70736664
A lot of waitresses underreport their tip income (cash tips) so their official income is absurdly low.
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>>70736324
Then they should sue the companies. Oh wait, because it's all just bullshit, they won't/can't.

This is pandering on a whole new level. They are basically implying they will make a law against it, when there already is one.
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>>70736324
>Not just passing whatever meaningless law the Democrats want passed so they no longer have this wedge issue
You fuckers are retarded. If there is no actual wage gap, then any law passed will not affect anything.
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>>70737852

No, and I like how the amount the make keeps going down.
>2020: Women make .04 to every dollar!
>125% of women have been raped this week!
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>>70737882
later today with the capitalist army we will


JOHNNY WALKER BLUE LABEL SECOND HARVEST OOOH YEEEEAAAAH
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My fiance tried to pull that equality shit when I started making more than her at a new job, I told her it's a combination of work experience and skill, bringing a vagina to work isn't something special and she should try harder.
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The fact I can get it right away with a lot more to come back and I don't know how much you love it so hard I have no clue who I want you
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>>70738158
fucking retarded collectivist

there's a reason they try to kill merit, they want everyone to be paid the same, it's communism coming through the vaginal door
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>>70736324
So why isnt Bernie just telling women to sue their employers for discrimination then. Because paying women less is against the fucking law. Why is this still a fucking thing...

Trump should fucking fix this, NAOW. He's rich. First come first served. He'll sue on behalf of a few women who believe this stupid shit, and the courts can have their say. That should settle this for good and all.
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>>70737999
>They are basically implying they will make a law against it, when there already is one.

Everyone knows that, which is why they want laws that dont force that. They want laws that pay women more and men less, which is the lynchpin of feminism.
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>>70736324
This guy just can't stop pandering, can he?
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>>70736664
He's not talking about minimum wage. He's talking about average wages.
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>>70737882
It doesn't even need to be hijacked. More than half of the posts are reasonable people criticising and exposing the myth.

If we hijacked it the whole thing would devolve into ''LOL WOMEN GET FUCKED GET RAPED 1488!!!!''.
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>>70738399
Identity politics is the only way he can get elected.
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>>70736324
Why do so many males support this idiot?
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>>70738459
False belief that he will lift them out of poverty.
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>>70738401
socialists are communists in disguise
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>>70738459

They're faggots
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>>70738459
because they're weak males
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>>70737943
>Harley Morenstein follows
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>>70736324
I want this lie to go away.

I work in the fashion industry. Over the last 4 years literally all them men who work around me have either been fired, quit, or are gay. Women have been given ALL the promotions in three years. Not a single male has seen a single raise. Despite this the top sellers in all departments that still have men are men with the exception of women's intimates. They make more money because they hit the fucking ground and try to get shit out the door. The highest paid female where I work has received promotions due to nepotism and no longer does anything other than speculate as to the work ethic of the staff based on the one time a week that she sees them.
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>>70736324
can someone enlight me on the wage gap myth? what indicates that it is a myth?

real question
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>>70738370
You do realize that there isn't an actual pay gap, right?

To get these statistics, the government compared to average female salary to the average male salary. It doesn't account for the type of position, hours worked, the fact that most women stay home to raise babies, etc.

In fact, single, unmarried women make roughly 8% more than their male counter parts (all things bring equal). No lawyer in their right mind would bother suing, because a 5 minute Google search tells even the dumbest paralegal that there is no viable case.
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>>70736324
I like how Bernie doesn't using the weasel word wage myth which is technical true but misleading and instead outright lies about the wage gap.

Women, in fact, for the same job with the same qualifications actually tend to earn MORE than men.
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>>70736324
The wage gap myth is absolutely embedded in public consciousness throughout the western world. Most people accept it without a second thought. I am so sick of seeing debates about the wage gap on TV being hijacked by female news anchors who won't allow the person who's qualified to talk about the subject, often an economist, to even speak. It's creepy how easy it is to feed such a baseless lie to so many people.
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>>70736324
People like this really believe that in a fair society, any possible bisection of humanity should have equal average wages on both sides.

Mathematically this is only possible if everyone has exactly the same wages, no matter what they do.

And if you don't think that's what he's claiming, he's illiterate, because that's how his logic works.
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>>70738621
the US government
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>>70738621
>can someone enlight me on the wage gap myth? what indicates that it is a myth?

When women work the SAME job they actually earn slightly more than a man

They take an average of what all women earn compared to what all men earn
They are literally comparing Waitresses and Part time day care workers to Doctors and CEOs
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>>70738459
There are only a very small number of men who can play the power game. And they play it fantastically, largely because unlike women they can both play AND recognize that a game is being played at all.

The rest of us are so bad we have literally been coerced into playing against ourselves.
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>>70738621
They divide median annual earnings for women by median annual earnings for men and say 'see, women are paid less for the same work!'

but really it's just that women make less money. women don't take as much overtime, women are less likely to be in hazardous high paying work, and so on.
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>womyn vote fer me plz
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>>70737103
Law demands the employer makes up the difference between the minimum wage and factual wage if tips dont cover it. Dont you try and fool me.
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>>70738621
>what indicates that it is a myth?
First, of all, why wouldn't it be a myth? Why would capitalists intentionally handicap themselves by not valuing women's work correctly?

If you want to prove that the wage gap is real: here's what you would have to do:
>find EVERY factor influencing difference in wages, EXCEPT direct sexism
>cancel them ALL out and see that there is a difference left

Nobody can do this. The more factors you include, the smaller the gap becomes. Of course we can't find all the factors, so all we can do is reason a priori. The whole thing doesn't make any sense.
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>>70738298
It's stupid, I have verifiably worked harder and longer than literally most women my age but they want to be my equal right away? Fuck that, I'm moderate as far as my political beliefs but a bitch without skill is still a bitch.
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>>70736324
looking only at paycheck numbers is ignorant.

why are liberals so close minded bigots?
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>>70738601
>Not a single male has seen a single raise.

There is no way you could know that.
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>>70738812

its hatd to believe, why would they talk about "same work" then? any quotations or sources for the median claim
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>>70736324
>can pay equally equipped people $10,000 less a year
>entire industries are run by women because of this
oh wait they aren't.
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So how does this work?
>We have an open position and you're the best candidate, you're hired.
>Oh, but you're female, so we're cutting your pay, that's our policy.
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>>70739121
>why would they talk about "same work" then?
They'll control for 3 or 4 variables to define "same work".

You have to really think about this. It's a massive problem in statistics. How can you know when you've found all the irrelevant differences? The world is so complicated. You can never be confident that you have.

People like Thomas Sowell has tried to include many more factors, and it makes the gap shrink to absurdly small levels. But it's still noo zero of course.

Statistics can't really help you. Try common sense.
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>>70739121
THIS is hard to believe? Jesus Christ, Germany.
You'd think that all employees in America committing a crime would be something that you find hard to believe.
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Why is the white men for everything responsible?
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>>70738629
Are you replying to the right post, dude. Because, unless you're retarded (i know many of you Americans are), there should be about 0 percent chance of reading my post in a way that suggest i believe the pay gap is real.
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>>70738621

Pretend you're a greedy capitalist who only cares about money. You learn that you can hire women to do the exact same work as men for 30% less. Why wouldn't you hire only women?
Just like how businesses are getting flack for outsourcing for cheaper labor, there would be the same type of flack for only hiring women.
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>>70739121
Because they're fucking lying as they pander to their base you idiot. They're leading a bunch of stupid sheep. Normally I'd say Bernie is like normal politicians who know the truth and lie, Bernie is just plain stupid.

Bernie actually misused the myth because saying "same work" actually makes it a lie. Normally they just say "Women make 70 cents for every dollar men make". Which is technically true since women work more part time jobs than men.
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>>70738768
They know that though. Some Russian guy posted a great infographic on it. I wish I saved it. Socialists know that women earn less because of the professions they choose, so they want to force men out of the boardroom, out of government jobs, etc. and give these to women so that they can earn the same. I'm hoping meme magic can somehow summon the Russian to this thread because he had good pictures.
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>>70738398
exactly. The outcome is still not equal enough for their liking, so it must be made equal by law. This is what Sanders stands for.
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>>70736324
They truly are our greatest alley
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>>70738621
They draw conclusions from laughably broad statistics. It's like taking 1 million random American men and comparing their earnings to 1 million random American women. When the stats show that that group of men earned 25% more (or whatever their current figure is) some very stupid people take it as evidence that a pay gap exists. All the while ignoring extremely important variables. Some of those variables being:

>career choices (!) - they're literally comparing the earnings of receptionists to neurosurgeons. Even with university quotas for women, they're still choosing lower income professions (even within the same job sector- paediatricians for example)
>lifestyle choices - the different lifestyle priorities that men and women generally have, family versus work ect. Female business OWNERS make less money than their male counterparts in the same field.
>hours worked - men work more hours than women
>holidays/sick days - women take more time of work
>willingness to move for work
>willingness to work high risk jobs
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>US DOL Is low key redpilling
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>>70740054
Hillary is high IQ and an ambitious woman, there's no way she doesn't see through this stuff. This pretty much confirms that she's a psycho.
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>>70739864
>willingness to quit over salary
>willingness to travel for work
>willingness to work 10+ hour shifts
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>>70737661


What is that, a subsidized housing project for gibs and single mothers? Sounds fitting.
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>>70739966
DOL is fucking shilling is what's happening. They're trying to say there's no laws in most states (implying there should be).
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Not only is it a myth... women in the households spend far more money on frivolous shit compared to men.
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>>70738621
Statistics that show a wage gap lump all female workers and all male workers together. So the female child care worker and elementary school teacher are being compared to the male doctor and nuclear technician. Since there are more males in higher paying industries males overall get paid more. Males also work more overtime, have more seniority, ask for more raises, and take less time off than women.

Any woman getting paid less than a man doing the same exact job for the same amount of time in the same location could just sue the company for violating laws that have been in place since the 60s.
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>>70740416
Not even their own money too. They spend their husband's money.
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A twofer
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>>70740751
wew lad
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>>70738927
Wait staff get fired if they don't bring the tips in.
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>>70741172
Fucking what
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>>70739258
Why would you ever hire anything but women?
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>>70736324
>being so autistic that you switch accounts to samefag on Twitter.

This guy
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>>70740751
This is the second time I've seen Ali Rapp pop up on 4chan in a couple days. I went to college with her. What's up with this?
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oh ffs even obongo posted shit like that.

Why can't christina hoff sommers just sweep all those fucks away?
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>>70741289
Free market mate. You cant compete, you can get fucked.
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>>70739258
>if you want a pay raise, you know what you have to do ;)
Some women unironically believe this
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>>70741501
>Worked for Nintendo
>started defending pedophilia on twitter because Japan has a different view on it
>got fired
>turns out she was also a prostitute
>nudes leaked
I am sure there's more, but that's the meat of it.
This is just /v/ spilling into /pol/.
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>>70741368
Women shouldn't be responsible for their choices. Are you that fucking thick? It's 2016 dude. If people make bad decisions, we as a society should stand by with abortion tools, STD medicine, and a bunch of extra cash to make sure they never suffer consequences. Wake the fuck up, sheeple.
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>>70736324
>Wants women to get equal pay for job
>Trying to prevent a women from getting a job as president

Why is Bernie so hypocritical
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>>70741501
>woman
>wrote thesis defending pedos
>works at Nintendo
>/v/ spazs out that she might be behind censorship for some games
>spam Nintendo and the internet
>gets fired
>internet learns she was an escort, the reason she got fired from Nintendo
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Vote fuh me, Boonie Sandahs
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>>70741172
Holy shit. Are they that bad?
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>>70741697
Nudes where?
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>>70739864
Along with the fact that if women really were only getting paid 77 cents to a mans dollar, that the only people businesses would employ are women.
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>>70742255
Check her encyclopaedia dramatica article.
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>>70740153
>there's no way she doesn't see through this stuff.
Of course. But she knows most voters don't see through it, and she knows she can get more voters, by going along with it, and pretending to be outraged.
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>>70738097
Keked.
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>>70736324
>his supporters think he will rise the women income by 10000$
>he will actually reduce the men income by 10000$
there you go, equality :)
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>>70741172
They don't want equality of opportunity, they want equality of outcome. Which is insane and impossible.
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No guise, it's not a myth, srsly

t.co

/Azd0vdFSkH
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>>70736324

It's not faiyah!

It's not righat!

>Bernie's entire fucking platform.
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So if I hire 10 girls instead of 10 men, I save 100k a year which I can spend on hookers and crack?

Well gee, I should just hire women then.
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>>70744115
You should take male hookers though, save 23% which you can spend on extra crack
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Equal pay when I can be a stay at home dad. Let's reverse the roles, I have video games to play.
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>>70739855
Every time...
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>>70744202
Is there really statistics on prostitution wage gaps?
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>>70736324
Someone link him this:

www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

WARNING CONTAINS TRIGGERS LIKE MATH.
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>>70738459
Friend zoned guys trying to hook up with their feminist friend.
Weak "men"
Cuck is not the right word here
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>>70744196
TOP TRIGGER
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Bullshit, my female coworkers make the same or more than I do.

They even get paid maternity leave but here I am just holding my dick and showing up to work.
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>>70741172
What does "choices" refer to?
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>>70745588
Which jobs they apply for, which degrees they go after, having children and working overtime.

It's saying that all the reasons for women earning less aren't valid because fuck you.
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>>70744196
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>>70741392
>companies start only hiring women
>women's wage start rising due to shortage
>women's wage now equals to men

This is not how it works, and thats why its a bad argument.

Wage gap exists, probably very small when you have everything else equal i.e. hours worked, qualifications, experience etc.

But thats because men simply ask for more as they're willing to risk more due to them being men.

If women hate the wage gap they should go for STEM fields, I'm a software engineer and maybe met 2 or 3 girls in the last year who were serious about this and worked in the field other than being useless project manager, product owner or some shit.

Women always go for the easy well paid jobs while men are willing to go for the harder ones which on the long term pay off as you become an expert with very little competition.

This is almost true for every area, I know very few female experts in any areas, they mostly love to be mediocre and get paid well because they're still young and attractive and thats the main reason (a privilege they hate to talk about).

I know a girl with a CCNA certification and she earns much more than anyone I know from my age group. And thats in a sector which I hear a lot of bitching about i.e. its supposed to be super misogynist or some shit.
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>>70738459
Because he's the meme candidate for people who don't like Trump. Because no one likes Hillary.
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>>70740054
>groceries don't cost us less
Your calorie intake is less than 3/4th of a man.
Of course you pay less
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>>70747766
Most women are irresponsible spenders. Have you ever been to a Starbucks? Its full of young women spending $5 on a coffee which they could buy for $1 elsewhere. I got to a shopping mall, full of young women. Only women I know who know how to budget are mothers.
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>>70744196
HA
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