97% of scientists believe man-made global warming to be a threat.
What more do you really need?
it's fake because it gets cold sometimes
On thin ice
>>70733747
good luck getting China and India to stop polluting
soon large parts of Africa will industrialize as well
>>70733747
97% of scientist that study the climate need funding and lie about shit to stay employed.
>>70733747
>muh bullshit meme statistic
people who profit from climate subsidies and who are employed by climate activist institutions think climate change is real
who'd'a fuckin' thunk it
Atmospheric temperature fluctuates over thousands of years, it's a natural process
No change has been measured for nearly 20 years despite emissions steadily growing
>muh ocean acidification
yeah good luck getting seafloor volcanoes to stop erupting
>>70733747
>>70733785
Those are both equally bad positions to have
>>70733585
It's real, but it's not happening as rapidly as the liberal activists like to pretend.
We need to make an effort to slow or stop it, but bullshit like "carbon credits" isn't going to do jack shit. The only way forward is a massive overhaul of all available renewable energy sources - wind, solar, hydro, and uranium fission.
>>70733747
Accurate data about H20 feedback.
>>70733995
they just as bad as feminists, the more money we throw at them the more they say they are needed
>>70733585
it's not warm enough
>>70734148
Just say if it's man made or not. I'm way to drunk to read anything that long.
>>70734254
They're, or They are. I'm drunk but I'm not finish drunk.
It's probably real but there's really nothing we can do to stop it. Large industry is responsible for most of it, and it's too profitable to be able to get rid of.
Car pooling and planting a tree ain't gonna do shit.
>>70733585
On high ground.
>>70734324
From what I'm getting, it seems that it doesn't matter. I think in summary, it suggests that CO2 levels contribute to water vapor which is the significant heat trapper in the atmosphere. However, models that predict warming off this trend have been way off (too high), so proving this correlation has been impossible, to the point that it might not even be an issue, in which case we may have been wrong about significant warming all along.
>>70734324
It says that it doesn't matter, it's not an issue.
>>70733747
another one fell for the "settled science" meme. good goy
>>70733585
I love it.
A bunch of /pol/tards will deny it, but yeah, it's a problem.
>>70734743
Guess we better start sending all of our money to environmental groups and climatologists!! Holy fuck we're gonna die!!!!
This is a power play and nothing but that.
>>70734305
Other than the fact we WANT a warmer world and some coastline flooding to redistribute some of that prime real estate wealth, it is an excellent live case study in the occult. How a new age religion is synthesized, manufactured, propagated and enforced. These are enlightening times to be alive, to be able to step back and watch the machine in action, it is very impressive!
>>70733585
It's fucking nothing, liberal parasites trying to bank on fucking natural climate change and the worst part is how many of you are too stupid to see it.
>>70734922
Next time read the thread before making an asshole of yourself.
>>70734922
>*tips tinfoil-based fedora
>>70733585
Dear OP, I used to believe it was both natural and being accelerated by humans.
I have studied both biology and chemistry, and physics.
Recently I have come to doubt everything.
Not sure op, i do know it's getting worse and the supposed political people trying to do something about it, like our president - have actually done just as much globally with deals to increase it, and they have to know this.
I will say, over the areas taken over by ISIS the air and atmosphere, and global warming have improved. Because of the removal of a lot of people by death.
I also think a lot of these elite people worried about global warming, would support depopulation.
I think the movie they live is a good reference.
>>70734689
>>70734691
So it's just bullshit
>>70733585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjlPvwRP-fM
>>70735110
Based on the current results, yes. It's not like scientists did this on purpose, it's just that they probably jumped the gun on something they thought was inevitable.
>>70735074
>not seeing it for the multi trillion dollar industry it is
>>70735077
I have studied both biology and chemistry, and physics and still can't count to two. Let alone three.
t. An True Studyist
>>70735055
>>70735074
>American educations
I hate this fucking place now.
>>70735259
What do scientist have to say about how plant life slowly over took the earth to create an oxygen based atmosphere?
>>70733585
I love it.
It would be delightful to have the sea right next to my house, it will also increase it's value on the market.
Apart from that, I think the entire planet will be better off a couple of grades warmer.
>>70735074
>le CIA buzzword
>global warming is just a conspiracy
Damn it, retards. The Jews invented global warming to kill the rest of us off.
They can survive the harshest conditions and then they'll restore the earth to its previous glory, without whitey or anyone.
>I want environmental tariffs so that China's growth will slow
t. Le Liberal Employed 'Environmental scientists'
>>70735289
>>70735471
I don't get your question. What about it? That's what happened.
>global warming is a myth. We're gunna beh fyne!
Bernie says it's real and bad so that means it must be.
>>70734922
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp6_sDiup6U
>inb4 liberal media
Take off your fucken blinders
>>70735646
Yeah so an organism changed the climate, why is it bad if humans change it? In fact plants changed the whole ecosystem.
>>70733747
Scientists though we would have an iceage by now, 40 years ago.
>>70735276
As opposed to you friendly neighborhood oilcompany
>>70735636
where's the typo?
>>70735593
nah it is happening but not due to co2 but due to the sun
Actual climate scientist here.
There's a lot of reason to doubt man-made global warming is as big of a problem as most of the industry says it is, and there is a lot of bullshit dogma that keeps people from questioning it.
That being said, none of you retards have any clue as to why this is true. You just regurgitate opinions you have aligned with for shallow reasons. You are no better than the libtards.
>>70736021
then educate us faggot
>>70735811
Don't worry faggot, even if your make believe global warming wasn't natural climate change, China is still going to pump out twenty times the amount of pollution you save by bagging your groceries in burlap.
>>70735835
The Great Oxygenation Event led to the first mass extinction. Bad example.
It's fake as fuck and if you believe it you are one gullible loser. Believing meme science is a new low, those scientists are people just like you and me they need money to eat and play. They get money to say that global warming is real and get a steady cash flow to keep saying its real and trying to find "solutions" when in reality there is no solution or its not a big deal because if it was then we'd all be panicking to get it fixed now. They wouldn't even get payed anymore if they came out and said it wasn't actually real so why would they do that?
>>70735811
>>70735883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrkqLaYjnc
>As opposed to you friendly neighborhood oilcompany
two sides of the same coin
>>70736021
>actual climate scientist
>using retard in a sentence
Must have been all those Viking hummers.
>>70736021
Appeal to authority here.
You are all wrong and dumb but I won't attempt to explain why, nor will I offer proof of me being a climate scientist.
>>70733585
Elaborate method to subsidise solar panel and windmill manufacturers at the cost of the thorium-fueled molten salt reactor meme, with lefty good feels as a bonus.
Whether it's real or not doesn't matter to us, we but all of Dubai's islands and reclaimed a whole province for ourselves. Whoever needs our expertise (many folks it seems) will be willing to pay for it.
>anything for a shekel
USA fuck our planet my uncle drowning in global warming water
>>70736172
It's an example that the earth's climate changes. Did smart plants plan it? It just happened. It's evolution at work.
>>70733585
Global warming isn't even even a thing anymore.
In the 70s they thought it was fucking global cooling.
They changed it to "global climate change" which is just neutral as fuck.
"Ay guys sometimes the climate on earth changes."
No shit Sherlock.
Carbon emissions are bullshit too. They abide by the Law of Diminishing Returns, so the freakout over carbon is sort of ludicrous.
If you are basing your "man man global warming" theory based on the rise in CO2 Emissions, the rate of change of the temp would decrease with increase emissions.
Almost all data shows any rate of increase in global temp to correlate in almost a 1:1 ratio with CO2 Emissions, when you should expect 1:(1+N) ratio.
Fucking water vapor is worse for the environment than carbon.
>>70736021
Yeah when i looked at some of the peer review study blocking scientists from disproving and discrediting study's and research to disprove global warming, i thought it was fishy.
Its like hey you wanna get blacklisted for jobs, try and disprove global warming.
Unless you have an oil industry behind you. Then you have a bias as well.
Just something very fishing, and their geo-engineering doesn't seem to be helping.
>>70736021
Okay, legit question, have you heard of geoengineering? Can we have a solution to the climate change problem through the process outlined in the book Freakonomics? Where we pump shitty stuff really high up in the atmosphere to simulate the effect of a volcanic eruption and thus facilitate cooling over an area?
>>70736021
>'Actual climate scientist'
>>70736526
No the only answer is to Tax people. That will fix it, trust me I'm a politician.
>>70736409
What kind of argument is that?
>a comet is approaching earth
>we shouldn't do anything because "evolution"
>>70734816
>Le money stealing boogyman
I cannot wait for 50 years from now when the planet is fucked and you all eat shit.
>mfw Sarah Palin and Bill Nye are going to debate each other about global warming
Fucking kek. The meme politician and the meme scientist are going to be spewing shit at each other.
http://winningdemocrats.com/sarah-palin-just-made-the-dumbest-move-ever-she-signed-on-to-debate-bill-nye-on-climate-change/
>>70736672
A comet is an external factor. I'll cave and say yeah It will effect. A Volcanic Eruption would have a similar effect and they happen every 10 years or so.
>>70733585
>Where Does /pol/ Stand On Global Warming?
It's natural, humans have very little, if any, affect on the Earth's ecosystem at large.
Back in the 60s, scientists working for oil companies started to notice that Earth naturally warms and cools in long cycles, and that another warming cycle was coming up. Oil exec/banker/rich people types kept this secret, and setup all kinds of "green" think tanks and other companies that receive TAX PAYER money to "help the environment"
The links are all easy to find. The same rich assholes who own majority shares in BP/Exxon are also the chairmen of well funded global-warming groups. Governments routinely hand out billions to these companies for "solutions" to global warming.
If someone wasn't profiting from all this global-warming nonsense, then why are people constantly shilling for or against it? Not just on /pol/ but the entire media from movies to news. Global-warming is a billion dollar industry.
>>70736021
If you don't cough up the knowledge-dough right now your ass is paying a visit to beat down town.
Don't test me, you schmuck.
>>70736709
Planet will be fine, we have geoengineering solution if necessary. Recycling is bullshit. Don't trust the government
>>70733585
>Global Warming
I need warming in here famalam cuz Global Warming is shamalam.
>>70736709
>Until you all will eat shit.
So will you.
>>70735110
That depends. co2 IS causing warming. This isn't in doubt. The question as to whether or not this will be catastrophic relates to whether or not we get feedback. This relatively recent paper says 'yes we will'.
>New study confirms water vapor as global warming amplifier
http://phys.org/news/2014-07-vapor-global-amplifier.html
>>70737188
He will have over dosed on heroin before then.
>>70733860
under appreciated post
>>70736021
Out of interest did you choose to study it with the intention of debunking?
What is the biggest issue facing the 'warmists' atm?
>>70737275
>>70737275
They might of done studies etc. but it still is suspect to me. Tobacco industry made a bunch of false claims in the past.
>>70733860
>>70737311
>these are the same guy
>>70733585
Maybe be real, climate is not static. Not man made though.
>>70733747
Its called geo engineering and its obviously real.
>>70736244
Link to paper?
>>70733747
Because if you try and do a study and program to disprove it you get "blacklisted" and discouraged from doing so even if you do get funding.
Science is about disproving things.
And on this area scientists are encouraged to jump on the wagon. And if you get off the wagon, without a big oil company behind you, you,ll probably never ride a wagon again.
>>70736436
>In the 70s they thought it was fucking global cooling.
This was never the consensus. Even in teh 70s far more of the papers published on the topic predicted warming.
>>70736021
Okay, I too am an actual climate scientist, and this guy is full of shit. Not once in my years of professional research have I found any compelling evidence against man-made climate change.
You are misleading people and will be the death of this planet.
>>70733585
> Where Does /pol/ Stand On Global Warming?
In the water.
>>70737132
I support this poster.
>>70736526
Yes. This is already happening. Cloud seeding is one example of geoengineering. What you're talking about generally involves aerosol in the atmosphere. If this is being done it is being done in secret as it could have severe health effects.
>>70735326
Most posts are people calling global waneing the scam that it is and then you come along and call everyone a dumbass for believing global warming.
Do you see what I was trying to show you?
>>70736021
I'm an actual climate scientist and this guy is full of shit. He's also a dirty asshole.
>>70738052
Yep, and i do not think we will have any actual answers on it any time soon.
I think it will just continue In secret.
I uses to not believe in the chem-trail theory, now I am not sure what the hell they are doing.
>>70738168
I'm not talking about /pol/, I was speaking of our country and its education in general.
>>70738327
Chemtrail theory? Please enlighten me conspiratard
>>70738248
Why yes, this man is correct.
You should trust all government, and all forms of science that we don't allow to be proven wrong.
Everyone in this thread just go back to work and trust the government.
>>70737911
/thread
>>70733881
This. Unless liberals are delusional and think African countries will pick up green alternatives.
Black Science Man believes in it.
All I need senpai.
>If you're not a climate scientist, you have no fucking clue what's going on with the climate
>If you're a climate scientist, you're being paid off to claim global warming is real
So what's the deal, /pol/?
It's a fucking political narrative only backed by bland ""science"", i.e. shitty computer simulations working under cherrypicked variables and leaving out hundreds of other ones, bloating the effect CO2 has in average global temperature so these variables, conveniently arranged, get to the conclusion they really want to get: climate change is anthropogenic in nature. It's a combination of wishful thinking and political censorship.
Remember those extremely complex simulations with thousands of variables done with supercomputers so they get to "predict" the economy? Remember how they are known to obstreperously fail over and over again and how economics is ridiculed as a science for it? Well, this is pretty much the same but every failure in the prediction takes like a hundred years to notice instead of a decade or two so we'll be misled forever if we let ourselves be fooled by pop science tier conclusions extracted from experimental simulations of a ridiculously complex system we don't even know all the variables of.
I would elaborate a little more but I'm slightly drunk and can't compute further. The picture attached is the """"correlation"""" of levels of CO2 in the atmosphere and the global average temperature for the last 600 million years. There are many variables that affect global temperature, and CO2 ain't one.
>>70737188
How so? I'm 53 my man. I'll be long gone.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=silfiTY32xo
>>70738922
Jesus Christ. Study the ACTUAL data for a few hours and say this again. Dumbasses like yourself parroting bullshit like this is literally going to get millions and millions of people killed.
Holy shit, why are you so intent on staying ignorant?
>>70739177
Who the fuck are you supposed to be to say that? Enlighten me you flamboyant faggot.
>>70736021
Actual climate scientist here
While I am not making $200,000 a year and indulging in my work I like to educate /pol/ on climate change
>>70734080
>people who profit from climate subsidies.. etc
It's like with doctors and their stupid cancer theory, right. It's just their job to sell you chemo, but all right thinking britbongs know any illness can be cured with lucozade.
>>70733585
Warmer weather is better for us.
>>70738641
You ready to get spooked?
http://www.rense.com/general79/barium.htm
This is not all bs either. levels of Barium and Aluminum compounds have been rising for a while and there is so far no reasonable expatiation.
>>70738840
I used to believe it too.
I have written research papers on it, and geo-engineering. I once argued destroying the damaged Ozone to create an artificial one using sulfur geo-engineering.
The whole point of science is that we change our opinions based on the best information. And i do not think we can get the beat information currently on this subject.
It is one of those things, that trying to disprove or discredit scientifically gets political, and gets a scientist fired.
And that alone should raise some flags, when something becomes political.
>>70739314
> but all right thinking britbongs know any illness can be cured with lucozade.
Who's been telling you our secrets?
>>70739177
>Study the ACTUAL data
Lol, your data sux mine is better xDDD
>>70739273
and my father works at nintendo, so i can educate 4chan on everything
>>70733585
>ice takes more place than water
>ice melts
>somehow the water level grows
>
>profit
>>70739339
This must be something they need for us..... Spooky.
Occurs Naturally, but we are speeding it up this time around.
Also the Gravitational waves from the merging of our Galaxy with another could cause a Pole Reversal.
real climate scientist here. I work for the EPA and make over $700,000,000 per year. I am also 6'2" and have a 8 inch cock.
>>70733585
overblown but if you look at what a shithole Indian and Chinese cities are like it's obvious you have to take care of the environment even on a small scale
Whether it's true or not, what is the issue with investing in renewable resources over the finite resources like oil?
We need to halt all production in China and India for destroying the environment
The only argument anybody has for climate change is muh 97%, which is appeal to authority.
All we know is that a majority of the climate change propaganda graphs only date back to the early 1800s and that Al Gore, the inventor of the internet, used Global Warming and the intro to The Day after Tomorrow as a cheap way to gain political status.
Also, Democrats love to blame it for silly things like cold weather, ISIS, and why they can't find the keys to their hummer.
>>70733860
top kekekekekeke!
>>70739662
I thought about that too.
Having a global EMF field, radiate outward from the planet and destroy and disable all electronics.
Some people have said the EMF blast from a polar shift would give people brain damage / make them disoriented. What do you guys think?
>>70735921
He said both but listed 3 things.
>>70739177
>Data projected by theory A
>OY VEY ITS GOING TO BE INCREASE BY 5C BY 2016!
>Data projected by theory B
>OY VEY ITS GOING TO BE INCREASE BY 4C BY 2016!
>Data projected by theory C
>OY VEY ITS GOING TO BE INCREASE BY 5.5C BY 2016!
>Data projected by theory D
>OY VEY ITS GOING TO BE INCREASE BY 5.2C BY 2016!
>Data projected by theory E
>OY VEY ITS GOING TO BE INCREASE BY 4.3C BY 2016!
>Researchers
>OY VEY BETTER ALLOCATE MORE BUDGET TO US WELL FIX GLOBAL WARMING
>Govt
>OY VEY BETTER INCREASE TAXES TO DECREASE C2O IN THE AIR TO SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING
>Govt
>OY VEY BETTER SLAP ON THESE EMISSION FEES ON INDUSTRY, PAY UP YOURE CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING
>Weather Balloon measurement of actual temp 2016
>increase by 0.05C
>>70739607
a) It's space, you stupid nazi.
b) The ice is on land. When it melts, it ends up in the ocean. Hence increasing the volume of water in the ocean.
>>70740044
ehh we know a bit more than that lad.
We know
co2 is a GHG
co2 levels in the atmosphere are increasing
most of this increase is caused by human activity.
>>70740193
The average temperature has increased by far more than 0.05C, but whatever you say buddy.
>>70740193
damn. I just wanna slap that vag.
>>70740696
>because I say so.
That's what we've read here.
>>70740696
Daily reminder that IPCC model projections have never been supported by real-time temperature observations.
>>70734148
This has been debunked dozens of times...
>>70740810
>>70740888
I can't do this anymore. Sorry. When global weather patterns get more and more violent, just realize that we had a chance to stop it, but dumbasses like yourself fought it every inch of the way.
>>70740981
Seriously, stop posting. You're ridiculing yourself and contributing nothing.
>>70741608
I've learned my lesson. Won't try and discuss facts here any longer. Continue on with your raindances and such.
>>70741768
>'''''''''''facts'''''''''''
Lad, you've done nothing but post ''you're wrong''.
>>70741768
I have highlighted posts with your ID and checked the entire thread twice. Not one single fact or link has been posted by you, only mere baseless opinions on the validity of other's contributions.
For some reason you also seem to have an unjustified sense of superiority that makes you quite obnoxious to deal with. Get lost.
>>70741874
You're the one claiming that entire body of scientific work is false. It's literally conspiratard to the maximum degree. Post dozens of source less graphs which confirm your shallow understanding of the subject, and then expect us to take the claims seriously. It's fucking absurd. Please, find me one respectable and legitimate paper on the subject that supports your views, and I will thoroughly debunk it for you.
>>70742271
I haven't claimed anything m8 except that the IPCC models are suspect. Their means of gathering data have been known to be flawed.
>filling in for inactive weather stations
>emitting data that conflicts with their own
>gathering temps of highly urbanized areas that are vulnerable to the concrete/metal around it
>gathering ocean temp from ship thermometers that are vulnerable to heating by the ship's engine
>>70742791
> still not posting sources for any of these bullshit claims
>>70733747
>97% of scientists believe man-made global warming to be a threat.
THIS
>>70738248
I'm the real climate scientist and I fap to futanari on a regular basis
>>70743162
Shitpost more. It really gets your narrow perspective across better.
>>70741604
>>70741768
How is this shit any different from pic related?
>so do you have any facts to back it up?
>ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!????
>>70743319
See pic.
>>70743357
IVE BEEN ASKING PEOPLE TO BACK UP THEIR CLAIMS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE THREAD, AND HAVE BEEN LINKED TO EXACTLY 0 VALID ARGUMENTS AGAINST GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE.
I know this is 4chan, but this is the most willfully ignorant discussion I've ever seen.
I'm not even going to bother posting evidence here.
If you believe that "climate change" is all about the money, show me the paper trail. Show me these rich scientists. Who are they? Show me a list, and a paper trail of corruption showing they were clearly paid off.
If you truly believe oil companies have your better interest in mind than scientists, kill yourself.
Just fucking kill yourself.
Can't wait for the floods to come and the nukes fly.
See you all in Hell.
>>70743693
BURDEN OF PROOF MEANS THAT YOU ARE THE ONE WHO MUST PROVE CLIMATE CHANGE BEING CAUSED BY HUMANS IS ACTUALLY TRUE YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
How's that whole "methan killing us all" thing working out? Isn't it supposed to get exponentially worse?
Real, but there are definite scare tactics in play so certain powers can profit from pushes for renewable energy and going green.
Take Priuses, for example, fucking garbage. The batteries end up making as much of a mess as the difference in the carbon footprint.
Also, our best bet for reduction is nuclear, which everyone's being faggots about because it's bad if you fuck it up.
>>70743783
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
EVEN IF anthropogenic global warming was real, the notion that it must inherently be bad is horseshit.
Fun fact: atmospheric CO2 levels are at one of the lowest points they've been at in hundreds of millions of years. Volcanoes are overwhelmingly the chief source of greenhouse gases, particularly CO2, that gets recycled back into the atmosphere. As the earth's core has been cooling, and thus volcanic activity has been on a steady decline, we continuously get less and less base level CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. Before the industrial revolution, we were literally less than 100 PPM away from having so little CO2 in our atmosphere that plants would be physically incapable of photosynthesis, and there would have almost certainly been the greatest mass extinction on the planet's history as the PPM number of CO2 in the atmosphere continued to fall. Plants even now are half-starved, which is why you can massively increase yield by pumping the exhaust from generators into your greenhouse.
Greenpeace founding member Dr. Patrick Moore and others have went into this quite a bit, if you faggots bothered to research things you had opinions on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbgcyW-MqtY
>>70743853
There are massive bubbles under the ice in Siberia. Ice keeps melting, gets released, accelerates the whole thing. Hasn't happened yet. When it does, you'll know.
>>70743783
Ah, I see. Here, go to ANY FUCKING ACCREDITED COLLEGE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, and you will find all the proof you could ever want.
I'm not one to make this argument, but you are literally disagreeing with science. It's insane,
>>70743970
Okay, now I'm sure you're trolling. Whatever, have fun kid.
nuke Africa and the middle east, problem solved next
>>70744057
> he's not denying an entire body of evidence which supports climate change with me
> must be a troll
I don't care about the next generation because i'm a liberal, oh wait..
I'm for climate control, otherwise people think i'm stupid.
>>70733585
Liberals love to cry about global warming and the polar bear like they do with starving African children. I personally don't care whether or not the polar bear loses his icy home anyway. Polar Bears are just trash eating niggers.
>>70743940
>Volcanoes are overwhelmingly the chief source of greenhouse gases, particularly CO2, that gets recycled back into the atmosphere.
wat
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vhp/gas_climate.html
>>70745018
I probably should have put "prior to the industrial revolution" but I'm 100% sure you would find some other inane, trivial shit to nitpick about.
>>70733995
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. Your right science is wrong
>>70745751
> FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: Proof Scientists r dumb
>>70743783
prove your mum isnt sucking black cock right now with timestamp jose
>>70745622
How is it trivial? The claim is that pumping this much CO2 is related to warming, so obviously the fact that we are pumping much more CO2 in the atmosphere than volcanoes do, would be an argument for AGW.
No climatologist is denying that CO2 is good for plants
>>70733785
you live in Canada, its always cold
>>70733585
Global warming is a very real thing and white people are the only one to care about it.
Soon, there will be no white country left.
Any question?
>>70737132
I can understand not believing in man-made climate change, but what the fuck?
>>70746070
>The claim is that pumping this much CO2 is related to warming
If CO2 is related to warming why hasn't temperatures risen in line with CO2?
>>70733585
/pol/ have other dumb issues to discuss like
blacks and women are inferior, whites are superior and other shit like that
>>70746492
referring to "recycling is bullshit" btw
>>70746463
We cared about slavery, we cared about world peace, now we care about global warming.
Fuck that, let the shitholes get hit by hurricanes and let them die in humanitarian catastrophes.
>>70746411
global warming is caused by all the methane Indians release when they shit in the street
>>70733585
We didn't cause and we may have made it worse but hardly if so.
Planet's been heating up and cooling down forever. Around the time that people started mongering fear about it (90s-2000s) the heating cycle ended and a cooling one began. And now in an effort to maintain their support the global warming mob changed the name to "climate change." (because trapping solar heat with greenhouse gases is totally what's making it cold, not our orbit)
>>70746598
DESIGNATED
>>70746543
CO2 isn't the only factor. From what I've read, scientists tried to use all other known factors to explain current warming and none of them were sufficient.
I studied biology and pol sci so I can't argue specifics, I am choosing to believe in the scientific community. I could be wrong and it's all one scam but it seems even more unlikely that nonexpert skeptics (who also profit from their denial) do get it right.
>>70746732
first, you believe global warming is real.
second, shitting anywhere will release green house gases
>>70747157
Stop shitting on the street, you disgusting pig.
>>70746783
ice SHEEET
>>70746908
I bet you are white
>>70747233
I never shitted on street, you disgusting pig
>>70733585
It's real but liberals use it as a boogeyman to fund their policies and increase government spending that barely helps the problem of climate change
If we want to fix it private companies funded by environmental activists are the ones likely to actually get shit done and find solutions
Also nuke China
>>70747387
Stop lying on the internet, you smelly cow.
>>70747387
i bet, you barbarian
>>70733585
Spewing out gigatons of co2 over a relatively short period of time is bound to disrupt things. So I say play it safe.
>>70733585
Happening or not, coal burning is still a shit.
Nuclear is the future.
>>70747446
china is a pollution haven, I agree. but nukes will only harm environment.
>>70747563
I'm Indian.
you losser
>>70747737
What's the best way to efficiently off the yellow monkeys?
>>70743693
>>70747536
I'm not lying, you smelly cow
or whatever the fuck you are
>>70733585
it's not so important
the polcy that is attempted to implement from govt and un level is what matters
from purely academic POV, I do not think that man made global warming has been convincingly established and to be honest not even that we are warming up is certain.
what a bunch of bullshit
>>70733995
>all 97%, including ones in other countries, are ALL lying shills.
fucking kek retard
how much is the oil company paying you?
>>70733585
I'm less concerned with the ozone and all that stuff. tonnes of plastic and chemicals are being dumped into the ocean, though, and that does concern me, because we eat from there. Oil is spilling into the ocean, and that's not cool.
But like I said, I could care less about pollution; it's going to go away anyway when humans find greener technologies.
>>70747821
I dont known, who are yellow monkeys.
but every country should have strict laws about industries and pollution. where as china is a known pollution haven for industries because they wanna attract and encourage industries in their country by loosening the pollution laws
>>70733881
I want to fuck Sae so much
>>70748150
we must be concerned for ozone too, it protect us from UV rays from sun which causes skin cancer
>>70733585
Fossil Fuels cause the Earth to cool according to NASA. Global Warming is fake, but Climate Change is real.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/628524/Climate-change-shock-Burning-fossil-fuels-COOLs-planet-says-NASA
>>70733585
it dosent matter if its manmade or not.
its here, its a big problem and he have to deal with it or be royaly fucked
>>70748439
It says "temporarily"
This article is literally an explanation about why the climate is currently cooling, good job refuting your own argument.
>>70748439
>actually cool the local environment, at least temporarily.
read whole news my friend
every where "at least temporarily"
One volcanic eruption emits more co2 than the human race has ever collectively. This is a literal 100% fact by the same scientists climate changers cling to.
Literally good luck stopping it. Few volcanic eruptions do far more damage than the human race ever has.
Now, things like deforestation, overhunting, resource depletion are real, and they hurt our planet.
But putting co2 into the atmosphere? Hardly. Yes it's probably bad for the world, no it probably doesn't have an effect big enough to be meaningful.
>>70748825
Source?
ITT: laymen try to convince themselves and others that they know better than actual scientists because they live in a world where they must always be right because HOW COULD I POSSIBLY BE WRONG IT'S A CONSPIRACY THE JEWS ARE AGAINST ME
Only on a pathetic board like this could such retardation not be immediately dismissed as laughable.
"BUT LOOK AT THIS CHART I GOT FROM GOOGLE IT SAYS THE JEWS SLADFGJKALSHDF"
You morons are literally grasping at straws, desperately searching for justification to not do anything. You will be an unproductive leech on society no matter what, so at least leave the smart ones alone instead of trying to convert them to your maniacal autism.
>>70733585
>claim global warming is real and that we need to reduce carbon emissions
>block new nuclear energy plants from being built
Why are liberals so retarded?
>>70749162
Can't wait for the ad hominem prejoratives to start rolling in.
Good work, anon
>>70749368
>Build nuclear energy plant
>accidents, extremely heavy local pollution, then finally mudslimes take over and use to make massive dirty bomb
>"LIBTARDS SO RETARDED FOR BUILDING NEW PLANT DURRRRR"
>Don't build nuclear power plant do avoid disaster because cost-benefit
>"LIBTARDS SO RETARDED FOR NOT BUILDING PLANT DURRRRR EHURHUEURHERERERE"
Maybe you should consider talking to someone who doesn't agree with you on everything - you might learn something for once.
>>70749368
is it, you define "retard" as intelligent people?
>>70749162
>oy vey goy our scientific theories are as valid as the ones of the gender studies proffessors!
>those actual measurements made by satellites and weather balloons must be can't be right! my diploma says so!
>>70749368
Fucking this. And then they go on about muh danger even when they themselves say literally every human being will die because of global warming. Pretty funny shit man, they just have 0 perspective or logic whatsoever.
>>70749587
Just look at the words themselves.
Liberal = liberated, liberation - freedom to change and grow.
Conservative = keep things the same because I'm afraid of change LALALALALAL I CANT HEAR YOUUUUU
It just makes sense.
>>70749570
You need to take a benzo or something. You're suffering from that bizarre disease people get when they think that pol is one person. Literally calm down you fucking chimp.
>>70748221
> nukes will only harm the environment
If the major shithole cities in China and India are nuked tomorrow, there will be no lasting harm to the planet. In fact, the environment on a global scale, will suffer less.
>>70749679
Top kek, so I guess the people's democracy of korea is paradise huh? What about the democratic republic of the congo? You're a fucking idiot if you think words mean fucking anything.
Pro tip liberals 100 years ago were closer to modern day hard right wingers, that was considered liberated then. Terms change you fucking grade schooler.
Earth climate is cyclical, alternating between ice ages of varying intensity and periods of high dryness and heat, CO2 is harmless and actually good for plants, since they feed on it, it's proven that high concentration of carbon increases and fasten plant growth and slightly cools temperatures.
Climate change is real and natural, man has nothing to do with it, all the state owned "scientists" just publish bullshit that they can never replicate and that end up looking like nothing averaged through the magic of manipulating statistics.
>>70749570
At least do some minimal research before hitting the post button liburger. Modern nuke plants are built inside encasement that separates what's inside the plant from what's outside. It's strong enough to withstand a plane crashing into it. Even if you were to take control of the entire powerplant and rewire it into triggering a meltdown you'd still have to actually DEMOLISH THE FUCKING PLANT or else it'd just keep most of the shit contained inside.
>b-but muh chernobyl
Do you seriously think they still build shit the same way they did 30 years ago? fucking retarded.
>>70749679
I understand, brother
that was bait for someone else
>>70750024
Most of our nuclear centrals are 20+ years old.
>>70749925
>liberalism implies democracy
>>70750131
Not what I said at all read my post before you reply.
>>70750242
I did
>>70733585
"man-made" global warming is false.
Climate change is real, however, it is also inevitable. Until we learn to control weather (never going to happen) the Earth will continue to go through it's natural processes.
>>70733585
I don't give a fuck about it, but we are seriously overfishing the oceans and leaving tons of fucking trash in it. Which is a serious fucking problem. Food chains for land animals are pretty fucking straightforward. Few land animals migrate.
Pretty much everything in the water migrates and relies on different food sources at different times of the year. So removing one fucking thing like Tuna or Sharks can have horrible implications for the entire ecosystem
>>70750302
ok cool
>>70749925
>Pro tip liberals 100 years ago were closer to modern day hard right wingers, that was considered liberated then. Terms change you fucking grade schooler.
Our leftists today as exactly the same, if not more retarded, than they were 100 years ago, it's the right wing that drifted left wise since then.
>>70750326
>tl:dr fucking this fucking that fucking fucking fucking
Man made global warming is obviously real and a serious threat to human life, and I'm against doing anything about it because humans are worthless and deserve the fate we are crafting for ourselves.
>>70749938
Yeah but the propaganda is being heaped unto unsuspecting sheeple for a reason.
Peak oil. We have apparently used about 1/2 of all fossil fuel reserves, the easy stuff on top of that. The totalitarian world police state is going to need the rest to build a mechanized army of hammers to keep 8 billion monkeys in line and depopulate while building a new age technocracy and urban sheeple farm. Carbon is the element of life, control carbon and control life. The industrial revolution was never going to end well.
The powers that be will make a complete mess of this plan if history is any indication so windows of opportunity will be open for the clever and corrupt.
>>70738821
Dunno where technology will be in 15 years
>>70750114
We're talking about
>>70749368
Pay attention to the
>block NEW nuclear energy plants from being built
>>70750671
I bet, you are one of rare intelligent who visit /pol/. just to see how dumb people are
>>70733747
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/30/global-warming-alarmists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/#74b781a05909
>>70739607
>german education
>>70750752
>superphenix was closed because leftist militia throw rockets at it
>then they keep complaining about our old centrals
>while refusing that new ones be built
>>70739607
This is actually the most hilariously retarded string of text i have ever read
What if I told you all that 3/4ths of Earth's population could survive on solar energy alone if solar batteries were slightly more efficient.
I'm sceptic but I hope it's true.
I hope the sea level rise and all the nedercucks get flooded
>>70733585
I stand on dry land and not ice sheets.
>>70751151
what if I told you that building enough solar panels would poison the earth ?
>>70751151
I'd tell you to prove it
>>70733747
Let me correct that sentence for you. 97% of 79 scientists who wrote papers supporting man-made global warming believe man-made global warming to be a threat.
It's called cherry picking.
>>70733585
I wish you fucks would stop showing these pictures of the polar bears, polar bear populations have been GROWING in Canada despite all this global warming will make them extinct nonsense.
It's the same thing with the seals, you show cute cuddly white fluffy seals in your anti Canadian propaganda when it's really the fat ugly grey ones we kill.
>global warming just a lie to keep is down! I ain't need to stop driving muh car! I dindu nuffin!
>>70748825
>One volcanic eruption emits more co2 than the human race has ever collectively
that's probably bullshit
I don't belive for a second anyone in the first or second world are willing to climb down the living standards ladder to prevent some vauge far-off disaster.
And should AGW come true, so be it. We're due for another pseudo-cataclysmic extinction event anyway, be it supervolcanic eruption, solar storms, pandemics, collapse of the biosphere, total nuclear war or AGW.
Just sit back and enjoy the ride fampai.
>>70733585
I believe we are accelerating it. i also believe how ever, that it is a natural phenomena. the earth warms and cools over long periods of time. there have been periods where half the earth was covered in ice and periods where there was no ice at all.
the real stigma behind global warming is the idea that it is causing a mass extinction. and yes it is causing some animals to go extinct (like the polar bear) but cutting down forests, fishing and human expansion in general has already done more than global warming would ever do.
>>70733585
Not sure.
I live in Northern England up a mountain and it's always cold. Even in summertime, yet thousands of years ago the Romans made wine here. There is loads of evidence that grapes were grown, harvested and fermented.
Grapes cannot be grown here now. I'm a gardener (it's my job) and I know this. Growing vines is futile. It's too cold.
I can grow root vegetables with no problem- potatoes, carrots, parsnip. And berries when the season is right. Because of the climate, they grow slowly; it intensifies the flavour.
Climate change is a reality. I have no doubt about that. It's a fact. I can remember winter as a kid. It was different to what it is now. (anecdotal but whatever)
Whether it is made by human activity, I don't know.
I think it's natural cycles.
>>70757376
>it was colder when I was a scrawny 8-year-old than it is now when I'm a developed adult
Terrible bait
>>70749543
>le ebin fence sitter middle ground
>uses the ultimate fedora persona
Get fucked fampai
>>70757658
not bait.
For example, winter comes later than before. Instead of December through to February, winter is now March to May.
I am not feeding you bait.
For fuck's sake.
>>70736995
>>70736409
>>70735835
>>70735471
No. You are retarded. You can't put the cognitive ability of plants and humans on the same level, that's false equivalence. We have the power to not pollute, not to change the climate. Plants do not.
