Can we do something about Colorado being rigged
Gop twitter
https://twitter.com/cologop
>>70713799
no need. it's actually the best thing that could have happened to trump.
>trump can now justifibly claim nomination process was rigged against him
>will hold GOP hostage at convention by threatening 3rd party run
>>70714298
He should just walk, too many people always say they are going to do it. The GOP is one of them, they have tried to screw him so often he should, just to fuck them over, he doesnt need them, they need him. So if he walks we get the first independent candidate that has a chance in over 50 years and the GOp realized how irrelevant it is and they dissolve, then we can try that in 4 years and end the two party system.
>Dreams man, always dreams.
As an independent Trump probably has a better chance of winning since It will be cuck lefties vs cuckservatives vs true conservatives instead of just cucks vs non-cucks.
Trump needs to immediately move into third-party PR mode, without coming out and saying it. Still pander to the Republican vote to pick up any delegates he can in the primaries, but preparation for an independent run should start ASAP.
With the voter base he has, he can easily be a major independent candidate in the general if he shifts to general-election rhetoric now, i.e. continue what he's been saying on fiscal, national security, and foreign policy issues, while backing off on social issues. By doing so, he wouldn't just split the Republican vote, he would have a chance of taking enough fiscal conservatives away from the Dems to actually win.
He's a NY Republican, we always knew he wasn't a huge social conservative, but social conservatism is what will cause the GOP to lose in November if it's Clinton or Sanders vs. Cruz.
>rigged
You idiots truly are ignorant.
All of what happened is legal.
All of what happened is allowed under Republican Party rules.
All of what happened was decided late 2015.
All of what happened could have favored Donald Trump if he understood that votes can be non-binding and that it is the delegates who pick the president.
All of what happened could have favored Donald Trump if he walked the walked as he talked about how great of a negotiator and having the best, smartest people around him.
>>70714298
>rigged against him
The people neither elects the party nomination or the president.
DELEGATES are who determine the winner.
>>70717736
>All of what happened is allowed under Republican Party rules.
clarify for me anon, who makes those rules?
>>70717828
yes, they're legally allowed to do that
just like he's legally allowed to run third party and torpedo any chance of republicans winning the presidency, house, or senate this cycle
the point is that if he doesn't think it's fair, and the voters agree, he's actually going to fucking do it
>>70717736
How many people voted in Colorado? Zero.
That's not a democracy. It's not good.
>>70717736
>barring delegates from entering
>having faulty ballots with delegates for Trump removed or replaced
We understand that a private party can be corrupt. Doesn't change the fact it's unacceptable you kike enabling prick.
I've been away for almost a month.
Somebody give Trump's status.
>>70718082
still winning, still our lord, still going to be president
>>70717871
The rules are made by the Republican National Committee. These rules are often changed and voted on during the National Convention with the delegates voting.
Colorado Republicans cancel presidential vote at 2016 caucus
POSTED: 08/25/2015 02:06:20 PM MDT
>August 2015
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28700919/
>But the freedom also opened the door for political mischief, as Colorado saw in 2012 when Ron Paul supporters managed to win a significant portion of the delegate slots, even though Paul finished far behind other candidates in the Colorado caucuses.
>The RNC tightened the rules in 2012 to eliminate nonbinding straw polls and help prevent similar stunts in the future, forcing Colorado Republicans to re-evaluate their process. An effort earlier this year to switch to a presidential primary system failed amid party infighting.
The Rawn Pawl Lolbertardians DID THIS
>>70717736
>was decided late 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6jgJN0sF9s
>>70717976
>just like he's legally allowed to run third party
depends on the state technically. In some states you needed to register as third party by now to get on the ballet
so called "sore loser" laws
>>70718164
Noice.
Noice.
And to think, this all could have been avoided if Republicans only supported him. They dug their own grave.
>>70718034
>Democracy
I'm glad you used that term to described the system of the United States and have no qualms about it. I will use your comment to ask a question.
How many of you RIGGED! faggots are also the THE UNITED STATES AIN'T NO DEMOCRACY IT'S A REPUBLIC!!!!?
>>70718034
>That's not a democracy. It's not good.
Political parties are in their right to choose the nominee of their party to send to the general election. It has been like this since political parties have existed in the United States.
>>70718169
>Colorado tends to not vote for establishment candidates
>establishment takes away their ability to fairly vote
>THIS MUSTBE RON PAULS FAULT
>>70718169
>>70717736
they kicked out all the Trump Delegates before they did this, yea that's totally fair, nothing wrong with that Trallalallaa lalala nothings wrong llalalalala, how can anybody's brain logically function while living with being a lying piece of dirt just keep lying to yourself so you dont feel any guilt on how crooked you are
Another question, how many of your RIGGED! faggots were part of the 2012 MUH RAWN PAWL DELEGATES HAVE BEEN CHEATED, IT'S AN OLIGARCHY!!!!!!!
RON PAUL FAGGOTS
HAVE GOT TO GO
>>70718371
Its a republic, however removeing the popular vote is tantamount to a four year old putting his hands in his ears and going 'LALALALALA CANT HEAR YOU GUESS CRUZE IS THE BEST VOTE'
Not to mention they also REMOVE TRUMP DELAGATES FROM THE BALLOT AND ACTIVLY TOLD REPRESENTATIVES TO DISREGARD TRUMP, hardly a fair republic.
>>70714298
What you don't understand is that the GOPe would prefer a Clinton presidency over a trump presidency. They don't care if trump runs thirds party and ruins the republican shot at the White House because Clinton would be no different than cruz. They're both establishment politicians that feed the same corrupt oligarchy that's been ass raping the American people.
>>70718503
>Reading is hard: The Post
> Colorado saw in 2012 when Ron Paul supporters managed to win a significant portion of the delegate slots, even though Paul finished far behind other candidates in the Colorado caucuses.
Ron Paul received more delegates than Ron Paul got votes. Some would say that this is "not a democracy. It's not good."
Don't be a hypocrite and say that it was okay for Ron Paul delegates to do this because it's all part of the rules and that delegates are who truly elect the presidential nominee but not when Ted Cruz receives delegates under the same rules have received a disproportionate amount of delegates to vote. Yes, in this case there was no vote. But it goes against the same principle of votes should be proportionate to delegation as the 2012 Rawn Pawl coup.
>>70718737
What don't you people understand about political parties primaries/caucus =/= government held general elections. Doesn't matter what you feel about muh popular vote or muh fair. Political parties, a private institution, are within their right to do so. They have done such for nearly two centuries.
>>70718169
>The rules are made by the Republican National Committee.
that's reassuring.
>>70717736
>All of what happened is legal.
>All of what happened is allowed under Republican Party rules.
>All of what happened was decided in literally 2015.
Nice same Appeal to Authority fallacy you keep spamming in all these threads, fuckhead.
None of what they did is just or ethical or right. All responsible for this deserve pic related, as do their apologists, such as yourself.
>>70718546
a. they did change the rules last minute to hurt paul
b. they are going to change them back to help kasich
>>70719054
>just or ethical or right
I'm going to sound like a SWJ cunt just for you: READ A BOOK.
Things like this has happened before. It wasn't until the progressive era when every political party in virtually all states made an effort to hold primary elections/caucuses.
>>70718514
Trump delegates that were kicked out of the convention in Colorado were kicked out because they weren't actual delegates. To become a delegate they had to go to the local district level to be nominated to go to the state convention. They did not because just like Trump himself they don't know what they are doing.
The rules for the delegate process were decided in August 2015. That means in august 2015 he should have had his his campaign staff figuring out what exactly he needed to do to get delegates. That is what a smart person would have done, that is what a leader would have done, that is what a winner would have done.
But he didn't do that because he doesn't have a campaign staff, he doesn't have an organization, all he has is his fucking cult of personality.
>>70714474
No. Hexistent doesn't have a chance third party, because we rely on all the 'cruz missiles' or Kasich faggots to vote for trump after each of them lose the nomination. Shouldo trump run 3rd party it'd be just like that rich guy that ran in the 90s against Clinton and Bush. He'd spoil it for ther gop.
>>70717736
>>70719233
that plus he has policies people actually care about.
>>70719233
>But he didn't do that because he doesn't have a campaign staff, he doesn't have an organization, all he has is his fucking cult of personality.
accurate.
it still remains to be seen whether or not he can insult his way to the presidency.
>>70719999
ROSS PEROT DID NOTHING WRONG
hy does the myth that Ross Perot was a spoiler persist 23 years later?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ask_Politics/comments/39b2kb/why_does_the_myth_that_ross_perot_was_a_spoiler/
>>70718263
Not true.
The laws generally don't apply to Independent Presidential campaigns. He has plenty of time to run Independent and still get on the ballots.
>>70718758
this, shit this is the way its been since reagan
>>70719224
>it happened before so it's okay to happen again
Well people raped and murdered before. I guess it's okay to rape and murder now, right?
>>70721164
You Trumpets sure do love your false equivalencies.
Murder and rape infringes on the rights of individuals. Political parties are a voluntary association of like minded people who are subjected to the rules and regulations of the party. Don't like it? Create your own party with rules you like.
>>70721164
>I guess it's okay to rape and murder now, right?
but those are against the law.
the law allows the parties to choose their candidate; if they let voters participate in the making of that choice, it is because the parties decided to let them participate.
you can form your own party and nominate whomever you like. there ARE rules about whether or not your candidate will be listed on the ballots, but in general you can write-in anyone you like.
freedom. ain't it great?
>>70721356
>Murder and rape infringes on the rights of individuals
So does taking away the right to vote in a democratic republic.
>>70719233
The GOP is simply going to fuck themselves out of a party. The days of waiting out people's anger or hoping they forget in a few months are over.
People are angry and the GOP is putting fuel on the fire. They can kiss having the Congress and House goodbye too if Trump isn't nominated.
>>70721394
>So does taking away the right to vote in a democratic republic.
there is no mention of that happening in this thread. what are you referring to?
>>70721478
You fell into my trap and know damn well what I'm talking about.
>>70717736
Then why pretend to have primaries at all? I can't think of another reason other than luring in unsuspecting undesirable candidates and then barring them from participating in the election through "the rules".
Delegates? Primaries? Voting? It's all a sham. The republican party chooses the candidate, they don't give a fuck about your opinion.
Or mine for that matter. Rutte threw out the referendum.
>>70713799
>>70714298
>>70719999
>>70714474
After nominations in 2008 and 2012, fucking over Ron Paul, and Paul Ryan as Speaker, the GOP does need to die.
I can't see any Trump supporter voting for anyone else. It will be the biggest landslide since Reagan if Trump isn't the nominee.
Republicans are retarded if they don't realize they'll lose the Presidency, Congress, and Supreme Court if they push anyone else.
CALLER: I'm a disenfranchised Colorado voter who attended the non-caucus caucus.
RUSH: Yeah, how was it?
CALLER: It was a sham. (chuckles) There were a few people there, all Republican office people who wouldn't even tell you who they were going to vote for as your delegate. So you had no idea.
RUSH: Wait, wait, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! They wouldn't tell you who they were gonna vote for as your delegate?
CALLER: Yes. We had to vote on delegates, but they would not announce who they were going to vote for as the delegate --
RUSH: So you were choosing delegates who would not tell you for whom they were going to support at the convention?
CALLER: That's correct.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/04/11/ted_cruz_isn_t_cheating_he_s_winning
>>70718169
This is hilarious.
>We don't like who you voted for so we just cancel your vote and put our own candidate. Democracy, fuck yeah!
>>70721514
>Then why pretend to have primaries at all?
some people are in favor of that. the ones in power want to keep as much of their power as they can, so they resist changes that might strip them of their power.
life is like that. it's probably like that in your country to a degree. people with power and money will always have more power than those with less power and money. even in the most "communist" country ever, the ones with power and money had all the power. funny, ain't it?
get used to being a human, and life is much simpler.
>>70718371
>>70718929
Then why the fuck are they evening having a primary when they basically telling us they decide who is the nominee
Again, fuck the GOP, they will be no more after this election
>>70721662
this sub needs more talk radio transcripts/discussion
>>70721394
I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record but maybe YELLING THROUGH THE INTERNET WILL HELP.
POLITICAL PARTIES ARE PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS WHO CONTROL THEIR OWN NOMINATION PROCESS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, HOW THEIR NOMINEE IS CHOSEN
THE UNITED STATES HAS HAD THESE KINDS OF POLITICAL PARTY NOMINATIONS SINCE POLITICAL PARTIES EXISTED. MOST WOULD STILL SAY THAT THE UNITED STATES WAS A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC THEN AS IT IS NOW.
YOU ONLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE INSOFAR YOU ARE NOT DISCRIMINATED BASED ON YOUR RACE, COLOR, PREVIOUS CONDITION OF SERVITUDE, SEX OR AGE SO LONG AS YOU ARE OVER 18 YEAR OLD). FURTHER YOU ONLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE IN POLITICAL PARTIES INSOFAR AS YOU ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE AND ARE REGISTERED UNDER SAID PARTY (IN MOST STATES ANYWAYS). AND ONLY THEN IF THE POLITICAL PARTY DECIDED TO HOLD AN PRIMARY ELECTION OR CAUCUS.
>>70721509
And what trap is that?
>>70721765
State political parities decide if they want to hold a primary or caucus. Colorado so happened decided not to hold a primary this year.
>>70721944
It will be great to see those cocksuckers get BTFO this election
Three back to back losses, probably four at this rate.
