>take Native American land to expand the United States
>ancestors were given reparations
>take African American lives to expand the United States
>ancestors were given no reparations
What is the justification of this?
>>70710681
No true Native talks like this. It wasn't our land to begin with. Natives don't believe in ownership.
Don't humor the shills
It's called welfare
>>70710681
we didnt send em back
>>70710681
Natives sold thier land and regretted it.
Only 2% of whites actually owned slaves at the time.
Also, Africans sold their own people for weapons against the british to fight off the colonialization of eastern Africa.
Try hardrer to guilt us. faggot. We have nothing to be sorry for.
Sources: 10th grade U.S. history.
>>70710681
There is no such thing as Native Americans, You have many nations such as Cherokee, Souix, treaties were signed, natives broke treaties, I sure we broke some as well for various reasons such as banditry. Nigs sold other Nigs to Jews and Whites. Slavery is wrong but they don't deserve jack shit from us. Period.
>>70710681
Fuck you
The justification is that they were given reparations, just not the kind of unreasonable reparations you're led to believe.
Compare a nigga in America to a nigga in shithole Africa.
Basketball Americans should be fucking grateful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qrs3uLdj60
>>70710811
lol, no indeed;
but some of them went back to Africa out of their own volition and founded the accursed country of motherfucking Liberia.
It manages to be both incredibly funny and incredibly sad at the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo
>>70710681
Its our land you stupid fucking faggot. We get paid top dollar so Whitey can continue his glorious expansion. How about you quit sucking on the welfare tit and get back to work like a good slave and Make America Great Again.
Fucking leech on society.
I tell you what.
>>70710803
>No true Native talks like this.
You have no idea what training we were given by the White man.
>>70711000
>There is no such thing as Native Americans
>continues to name different Native American tribes
Are you retarded?
FUCKING NIGGERS
I HATE THEM
>>70711384
They came from Siberia.
>>70711016
This is true
Also if you look at the money our government has spent on blacks with welfare, education, etc they really don't need like a $500 reperation "so sorry" check
>>70710681
>What is the justification of this?
The North (i.e. the United States) won the war, and has no legal responsibility to pay reparations. You could perhaps make a case that the Confederate States could've owed reparations, but they no longer exist. The southern states are part of the union and their legal tie to the Confederacy ended in 1865.
There are simply no modern entities that are legally culpable for slavery
>>70711465
WE CAME FROM THE EARTH
NATIVE PRIDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naHObdmYLTQ&nohtml5=False
>>70710681
Native Americans were constantly at war with each other and not using the resources the US had. Colonialism stopped that.
As for slavery, at its height only 2 percent of the entire population had slaves. I doubt they had a hand in the creation of america.
Because the blacks taken here to be slaves are better off now then the Africans left behind.
Decades of welfare culture and hundreds of billions of dollars later and you still want reparations?
Should lose your hands for constantly demanding gibs and dats.
>>70711465
A long as time ago. Everyone came from Africa if you go back long enough.
But when she faggots use that argument /pol/ calls it out on being retarded.
So don't use it yourself
>>70710966
How many white people owned slaves is a hilariously useless statistic though, it helps in no way with discussing the issue at hand.
The important one would be for example how many African American have slave ancestors, this discussion has nothing to do with white people.
>>70710966
>>70712255
Just to clarify, I agree with what you are trying to say, but your argument is retarded.
we gave them the wheel. and civilization.
how many casinos must we give these fucks before we can get over white guilt?
>>70711664
>The North (i.e. the United States) won the war, and has no legal responsibility to pay reparations. You could perhaps make a case that the Confederate States could've owed reparations, but they no longer exist. The southern states are part of the union and their legal tie to the Confederacy ended in 1865.
That logic goes against everything the United States stands for.
If you take ownership of a corporation, you have a legal obligation to any outstanding debts or fines. To this day, the United States is profiting off of Confederate institutions. Checkmate Cletus.
>>70712255
Are jews White?
>>70712402
And you killed most of them with disease
>>70712450
Ethnic Jews?
Depends on how many whites are in their family tree. It's not a clear line but you can tell when a Jew is more Jew than white and the other way around
>>70710681
Are you seriously comparing a hundred years of slavery in the USA to a genocide of a race?
>>70712255
You may want to ask yourself how many black slave owners owned black slaves then too...
How do you figure out reparations for that?
>>70710681
There is no such thing as justification. Justice is illusory. Survival is all that matters. You live in a dream. Wake the fuck up.
>wanting reparations for being brought up from the stone age to modern times
>>70710681
>ancestors were given reparations
Did you mean "descendants?"
>>70710681
>natives took each others lands since they crossed the landbridge from Mongolia
Given sovereign nations and millions in federal tax money; allowed to have parallel legal systems without paying taxes; litarally exterminated by every other European nation in the rest of the Americas; complains that they need reparations. Maybe natives who feel this way need to go to Mexico, try your luck there.
>Blacks sold each other as slaves since prehistoric times, and still do today
>Sold more slaves to Arabs, over 1400 years, resulting in multiples more deaths approaching a genocide
Complains that they now live in the richest nation on the planet, not back in hellhole Africa. Complains that they get millions in gibsmedats, institutional racism in their favor, endless patronizing over their failures they won't ever take responsibility for. They deserve to go back.
>>70710681
It's very simple
OTHER niggers sold the slave traders those niggers
That and welfare. Niggers have been racking up quite a bill for some time. Each crime committed costs the state it is in 40k to 100k USD. They'd come out paying a lot if reparations were ever calculated.
That and how are they going to trace and prove their heritage?
>>70712489
no, "I" didn't
why should I pay for the sins of my great-great-great-great-...-grandfather?
>>70712403
corporations are private citizens (literally they count as a single person), not public (read: governmental) entities. the government was not obligated to assume the debts of the South, in the same way that the US government was not obligated to assume the debts of Texas when it claimed that territory from Mexico. Corporations are legally distinct from government
>take group x away from y to bring it to z
>group x is oppressed for some time
>group x now not oppressed, the opposite actually
>if group x would have stayed in y rather than z they would have 10 times worse living standards
What kind of fucking reparations do they need?
>purchase Native American land to expand the United States
>ancestors were given reparations
>purchase African American slaves to bolster the Southern economy
>slaves were freed and descendants given welfare
FTFY
>>70712750
"in slavery" by what definition?
Every non-white that lives in the US, and speaks like aan enemy traitor, only deserves one kind of reparations.
>>70710681
You should research the history of both to understand what nuance is. Also, I am opposed to the blank check we give natives.
>>70713048
>ask me to define slavery
In the Trans-Saharan trade?
The kind where 1 in 30 boys sold into slavery survived the castration to become a eunuch. Fewer women survived. The average mortality was something like 9 years for males. Is this the first time you've heard of this? Did you not know it still exists today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgKZR2W96JE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6st1PH8gy40
>>70713407
No, in the "current year" in your picture at the bottom. On what definition is the data based? Genuinely interested. Is slavery just being indebted, or are they officially owned for example?
>>70712319
how then would ~98% of Americans be responsible for paying them reparations if our ancestors had nothing to do with slavery?
>>70713509
Check out the video links. These are 3rd world states, so the governments officially outlaw slavery, but it is known to exist. Journalists who have tried to study it have been disappeared. THe government obviously doesn't supress it. Much of it is child slavery, similar to the child soldiers you hear about. All major industries buy children to work, diamonds, cocoa, every industry has child slaves. Often the slaves are owned for generations. Slavery is ancient in west africa, it's deeply culturally engrained.
>>70710681
> proved that USA orchestrated wars, no repertation given.
> Mexico, Vietnam, Iran, Iraq
>>70710681
shut up you bargain bin kike
>>70713693
I never understood whats wrong with slavery. Even jesus didnt say anything against it.
Give slaves basic rights and we have a whole new sector of economics. Also Slaves became a part of the family in most casses, so the owners would care for them when they were old. Also you care for your own property. Workers just get low or less than minimum wage and can go fuck themselves.
In dire times, I would rather go for slavery before dying of hunger. Also If you make some spare money, you must have the ability to buy your freedom.
Whats wrong with that?
But those natives probably took the land from someone else.
>>70712578
The statistics I saw was that about 40% of slave owners were black or mixed.
>>70712789
Congrats, you haven't even figured out that 'you' can be used for other things than addressing a single person
Kill yourself fåm
>>70710681
We let them stay.
>>70710681
Constitution ratified 1787
Jefferson ends importation of slaves 1801
Lincoln signs Emancipation Proclamation 1863
United States as a nation allows the importation of Africans for the purpose of slavery for 14 years
United States allows slavery to continue for 62 years
Total time the United States is a nation with legal slavery, 76 years
Welfare begins under Roosevelt, 1935
Food Stamps (SNAP) begins under Johnson, 1964
Low Income Public Housing begins under Roosevelt, 1934
While Negro's make up only 10% of the US population (30 million) 45% recieve welfare, 30% receive food stamps and 45% live in public housing, 25% are employed by the federal government (excluding military)
Half of all Negro's live off taxpayer dollars in some manner as of 2015
Negro's began receiving government approved, taxpayer funded support 82 years ago
40% of Negro's pay no federal or state income taxes, but do qualify for "Earned Income Credit", in which a person gets a refund in excess of what they paid
Reporations?
82 years and counting, when do we get to stop
76 years of slavery in the US
82 years of taxpayer payments
But Negro's still chant about Reperations
>>70710681
Oh, but they did pay your ancestors! Vast majority of the slaves were legally bought from their native Afrikan kings.
